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| PunD_|_Laptop | hi all | 00:04 |
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| PunD_|_Laptop | llnz/mithro : I'm a prospective GSoC student, and I had gotten some suggestions from you earlier on my proposal, and I've updated it since. If you have some time, I would love some comments on the current revision (http://www.thousandparsec.net/wiki/GSoC_Proposal/PunD) | 00:06 |
| tpb | <http://ln-s.net/1lc:> (at www.thousandparsec.net) | 00:06 |
| mithro | PunD: my biggest comment is - please expand the schedule and look into the functional milestones mentioned in the tips page | 00:11 |
| PunD | mithro: thanks, I thought they were reasonably inline with that, but I'll edit them some more | 00:14 |
| mithro | a schedule/roadmap is one of the most important sections | 00:14 |
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| JLafont | 10 minutes without disconnecting. Its a new record! | 01:09 |
| llnz | hehe | 01:11 |
| JLafont | Hey llnz | 01:13 |
| llnz | hi JLafont | 01:13 |
| JLafont | The channel has been a little slow lately | 01:16 |
| JLafont | I miss all those long 2 hour discussions | 01:17 |
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| llnz | JLafont: well start one then | 01:26 |
| JLafont | But that conflicts with my lurking habits :( | 01:27 |
| JLafont | Hmm.. Maybe I'll start one tomorrow. Once I feel like I've caught up with my homework and studying | 01:30 |
| llnz | fair enough | 01:30 |
| JLafont | I just need to figure out a topic | 01:30 |
| JLafont | Something controversial, but fun | 01:30 |
| JLafont | Like apple violating their own EULA with their almost forced Safari install on Windows Machines | 01:31 |
| JLafont | But that is like weeks old | 01:31 |
| llnz | how about something more TP specific? | 01:48 |
| JLafont | haha | 01:49 |
| JLafont | ueaj | 01:49 |
| JLafont | yeah* | 01:49 |
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| CIA-28 | llnz tpserver-cpp * re9ff44a7e377 /modules/persistence/mysql/ (mysqlpersistence.cpp mysqlpersistence.h): Added mysqlpersistence for resource lists. | 02:23 |
| SmokingRope | mithro: ping | 02:26 |
| CIA-28 | llnz tpserver-cpp * r9d8baded34c1 /modules/persistence/mysql/ (mysqlpersistence.cpp mysqlpersistence.h): | 02:35 |
| CIA-28 | Added ReferenceObjectParam mysql persistence. | 02:35 |
| CIA-28 | Also fixed table creation for ResourceList mysql persistence. | 02:35 |
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| JLP | good morning all | 03:44 |
| llnz | hi JLP | 04:09 |
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| llnz | hi f0ster | 04:14 |
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| CIA-28 | llnz tpserver-cpp * r849e5e9ce76c /modules/persistence/mysql/ (mysqlpersistence.cpp mysqlpersistence.h): | 04:20 |
| CIA-28 | Added IntegerObjectParam mysql persistence. | 04:20 |
| CIA-28 | Left space to do ReferenceListObjectParam shortly. | 04:20 |
| CIA-28 | llnz tpserver-cpp * r2b109bffdafb /modules/persistence/mysql/ (mysqlpersistence.cpp mysqlpersistence.h): Added SizeObjectParam mysql persistence. | 04:25 |
| CIA-28 | llnz tpserver-cpp * r26be5b04dd30 /modules/persistence/mysql/ (mysqlpersistence.cpp mysqlpersistence.h): | 04:42 |
| CIA-28 | Added RefQuantityListObjectParam mysql persistence. | 04:42 |
| CIA-28 | Also fixed signedness of ReferenceObjectParam persistence. | 04:42 |
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| CIA-28 | llnz tpserver-cpp * rdc1ef238707a /modules/persistence/mysql/mysqlpersistence.cpp: | 05:11 |
| CIA-28 | Save and retrieve the ObjectParameters at the right times. | 05:11 |
| CIA-28 | Only save the retrieve, going to change interface shortly. | 05:11 |
| CIA-28 | llnz tpserver-cpp * r66d353a4badf /modules/persistence/mysql/mysqlpersistence.cpp: | 05:20 |
| CIA-28 | Corrected Object mysql persistence. | 05:20 |
| CIA-28 | Interface cleanup, then big test time. | 05:20 |
| CIA-28 | llnz tpserver-cpp * rd6634c97cf14 /modules/persistence/mysql/mysqlpersistence.cpp: | 05:26 |
| CIA-28 | Added missing alive field for Object in mysql persistence. | 05:26 |
| CIA-28 | Don't try to retreive or save parameter if dead. | 05:26 |
| llnz | humm.... | 05:47 |
| JLP | llnz: nothing left to do? :) | 05:50 |
| llnz | no, i just hadn't updated all the python libraries | 05:51 |
| llnz | testing currently | 05:51 |
| llnz | there is something wrong with it's method of figuring out which player the current player is | 05:52 |
| JLP | llnz: I'm just moving Parsek into KDE SVN as suggested | 05:53 |
| llnz | ok | 05:54 |
| llnz | cool | 05:54 |
| JLP | llnz: we'll se if ther will be any more interest now that the code is closer to the KDE/Qt people | 05:54 |
| JLP | llnz: who knows maybe someone will really jump over to TP too | 05:54 |
| llnz | that would be cool | 05:55 |
| llnz | i'm going to have a big hack at libtpproto-cpp sometime soon, to make it play nice (not block) | 05:55 |
| CIA-28 | llnz tpserver-cpp * r7d6ee7812053 / (5 files in 2 dirs): | 06:01 |
| CIA-28 | Simplified Object persistence interface. | 06:01 |
| CIA-28 | Only save and retrieve. Delete not needed, use isAlive instead. Update | 06:01 |
| CIA-28 | not needed, every turn is new object. Also update ObjectManager for | 06:01 |
| CIA-28 | interface change. | 06:01 |
| llnz | well... i guess it's time to test persistence again... | 06:02 |
| llnz | brb | 07:08 |
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| llnz | mithro: is there anyway to disable the splashscreen in tpclient-pywx? | 07:17 |
| JLP | llnz: i think the instructions are in the Readme file | 07:24 |
| llnz | JLP: thanks | 07:27 |
| llnz | it does say | 07:27 |
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| llnz | hi AquaFox | 08:04 |
| AquaFox | hi llnz :D. | 08:05 |
| CIA-28 | llnz tpserver-cpp * r9f66fdd86718 /tpserver/designstore.cpp: | 08:26 |
| CIA-28 | Protect against components not being already loaded. | 08:26 |
| CIA-28 | Such as when we have just started from persistence. | 08:26 |
| CIA-28 | llnz tpserver-cpp * rba7d8ef4a5fd /modules/persistence/mysql/mysqlpersistence.cpp: | 08:26 |
| CIA-28 | Many fixes to get persistence working. | 08:26 |
| CIA-28 | Not all checked yet. Need to wire up some persistence, namely the *view | 08:26 |
| CIA-28 | classes (Object, Design and Component). | 08:26 |
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| llnz | later all | 08:32 |
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| AlexEvt | ~seen mithro | 17:41 |
| tpb | AlexEvt: mithro was last seen in #tp 17 hours, 26 minutes, and 25 seconds ago: <mithro> a schedule/roadmap is one of the most important sections | 17:41 |
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| llnz | morning all | 18:39 |
| AlexEvt | hi | 18:39 |
| JLP | llnz: morning | 18:40 |
| AlexEvt | it's 1 40AM on my clock:)) | 18:40 |
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| llnz | 10:40am here | 18:40 |
| AlexEvt | good for you | 18:40 |
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| AlexEvt | JLP: Hello. Can you tell me how often mithro visits IRC? | 18:41 |
| JLP | AlexEvt: oh he's around very often, wondering where he is hiding today | 18:42 |
| greywhind | AlexEvt: he's on almost every day between 7:00 PM EST and 3:00 AM EST (approximately, sometimes later) | 18:42 |
| AlexEvt | i c, thanks! | 18:43 |
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| JLP | AlexEvt: ^ | 18:48 |
| AlexEvt | hi mithro | 18:49 |
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| AlexEvt | mithro: i just wanted to ask review my application once more ^_^ | 18:55 |
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| llnz | hi mithro, nash | 18:56 |
| nash | heyo llnz | 18:56 |
| mithro | hey nash | 18:57 |
| mithro | how goes everything? | 18:57 |
| nash | heyo | 18:57 |
| nash | Not too bad | 18:57 |
| nash | I need to ask you some questions about things a little later if thats okay - not SoC related | 18:58 |
| SmokingRope | mithro: i think i found a bug in the client | 19:00 |
| vi1985 | hi nash, if you remember, you posted some questions on my wiki proposal. I answered them some time ago, but I just want to make sure that there are no more questions before the deadline :) | 19:00 |
| SmokingRope | mithro: │Averell │┘ke-GR ▒│ | 19:00 |
| nash | Yes | 19:00 |
| SmokingRope | .. | 19:00 |
| nash | vi1985: Did you have more updates? | 19:00 |
| SmokingRope | mithro: http://pastebin.com/m52160a9b | 19:00 |
| mithro | nash: me? | 19:00 |
| nash | mithro: Yes.. sorry | 19:00 |
| mithro | okay sure | 19:00 |
| SmokingRope | mithro: there are a number of fleets on demo 1 that are zombie's | 19:00 |
| SmokingRope | mithro: fleet id's 160 and 207 | 19:02 |
| vi1985 | nash: hmm, the last revision I did was about a week ago. Afterwards it's just polishing. | 19:02 |
| nash | vi1985: My biggest concern is it is kinda two projects... build an AI, then make it adaptive. I worry that the two will conflict badly | 19:02 |
| mithro | nash: I'll be back in about 20-40 minutes | 19:03 |
| nash | cool | 19:03 |
| mithro | talk to you then | 19:04 |
| vi1985 | nash: hm, the thing is that the core decision making algorithm will in itself be adaptive... it's not like I'll be building on some core of heuristics. (which will be a separate module; the OSM to be exact) | 19:04 |
| nash | But you still need the hueristics to play the basic game and rules.. | 19:07 |
| vi1985 | nash: I need restrictions on permissible actions, not heuristics. There will be a couple of places where I will need to use heuristic principles, though: first, in designing the Opponent Simulation Module, since I won't have complete information on opponents; secondly, in deciding on the standing of the player relative to others. | 19:10 |
| vi1985 | nash: these modules will not be a part of the core decision making algorithm. | 19:11 |
| vi1985 | it's a different design than a heuristical decision maker | 19:12 |
| vi1985 | nash, I started hacking a much more elaborate proof-of-concept program than what I posted online already. My exams will finish on the 11th, and I'll try to get it working as fast as I can afterwords. | 19:20 |
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| mithro | nash: back now | 19:34 |
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| mithro | nash: oh, btw I got an invite from FST about fancypants | 19:43 |
| nash | vi1985: The proof of concept will be great | 19:56 |
| nash | mithro: My apologies about the invite... | 19:56 |
| nash | mithro: Any comments? | 19:56 |
| mithro | nash: no problems :P | 19:57 |
| mithro | nash: sounded kind of cool :) | 19:57 |
| vi1985 | nash, ok, i'll have it ready as fast as I can. | 20:07 |
| nash | vi1985: :-) Excellent... | 20:07 |
| nash | vi1985: Sorry if I sound critical, but there are a lot of applications. And the accept/application ratio sucks :-( | 20:07 |
| vi1985 | nash: I understand! | 20:09 |
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| nash | vi1985: But code speaks louder then any criticisms I have ;-) | 20:11 |
| vi1985 | nash: If I wasn't eager to get those criticisms out in the clear, I wouldn't have been asking ;) It's much better for both of us to discuss them! By the way, did you have a chance to look at the source code I posted? | 20:13 |
| vi1985 | nash, note that I don't "tell" the algorithm how the problem has to be solved, not do I provide it with any heuristics... yet it works pretty well :) | 20:14 |
| nash | I did, buit not in detail | 20:14 |
| nash | vi1985: And your point about criticisms... i agree entirely | 20:15 |
| vi1985 | ok. well, you'll be the first to know (together with everyone else ;) ) when the new source code will be up. ps- It's really much better for me, as an applicant, to know of any thoughts you have about my proposal... and for the mentors I guess it's also good to have discussed them, for fear of miscommunication :) | 20:17 |
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| mithro | hello PunD_|_Laptop | 20:33 |
| PunD_|_Laptop | hello | 20:51 |
| mithro | PunD: you have feedback now | 20:53 |
| PunD_|_Laptop | mithro: Thank you. I'll take a look at it, but I have a major problem set due in 3 hours >_< so I won't have much time to act on it. | 20:54 |
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| PunD_|_Laptop | mithro: I will definitely modify my wiki-page to match what you are talking about, and I think i can make a script. Unfortunately I don't think I'll be able to edit it before the deadline for the google app, so it will only be on the wiki. Thank you though. | 20:56 |
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| PunD_|_Laptop | mithro: I just checked the official google duedate, and I think I put up my official app on GSoC an hour late... is that going to be an issue? | 21:03 |
| mithro | PunD_|_Laptop: oh? that is news to me | 21:03 |
| mithro | PunD: http://tinyurl.com/3tjkh8 | 21:04 |
| tpb | Title: Customized counter (at tinyurl.com) | 21:04 |
| Epyon | PunD_|_Laptop -- if you managed to submit it, its ok | 21:04 |
| PunD_|_Laptop | ah, yes, re-reading the dates, I have until tomorrow afternoon, not this afternoon, thanks | 21:05 |
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| mithro | ~seen xdotx | 22:25 |
| tpb | mithro: xdotx was last seen in #tp 1 week, 1 day, 0 hours, 8 minutes, and 30 seconds ago: <xdotx> x.x | 22:25 |
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| vi1985_ | mithro: thanks for the feedback, I'll change the format of the dates. | 23:26 |
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