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| mithro | greywhind_: btw, I don't think the location of those arrows was probably the best place | 00:38 |
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| mithro | hey JLP | 03:31 |
| JLP | mithro: ahoy | 03:34 |
| mithro | JLP: how goes everything? | 03:35 |
| mithro | had a chance to look at those python books? | 03:35 |
| JLP | mithro: not much yet, only downloaded them and read introduction in both of them | 03:36 |
| JLP | no interesting stuff yet | 03:36 |
| mithro | JLP: if you have any questions | 03:36 |
| mithro | feel free to ask | 03:36 |
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| JLP | mithro: i will | 03:40 |
| JLP | mithro: btw did you see the spaceship Epyon posted earlier | 03:41 |
| mithro | not sure | 03:41 |
| mithro | I did see one a week ago | 03:41 |
| JLP | mithro: this is a second one - http://chaosforge.org/latern-promo.png | 03:43 |
| mithro | so now we just have to convince him to let us use it in tp | 03:45 |
| JLP | mithro: ah that will be easy :) he will only want a TP t-shirt in return :) | 03:52 |
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| mithro | well, under a GPL license :) | 03:58 |
| mithro | we got a shout out here btw -> | 03:58 |
| mithro | http://mirror.linux.org.au/pub/linux.conf.au/2008/Thu/mel8-122.ogg | 03:59 |
| tpb | <http://ln-s.net/1VrJ> (at mirror.linux.org.au) | 03:59 |
| * JLP downloading | 04:00 | |
| * JLP watching | 04:02 | |
| mithro | working on the Gaming Miniconf vids now | 04:10 |
| JLP | nice to see TP mentioned so much :) | 04:51 |
| mithro | :) | 05:02 |
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| * Epyon is depressed -- thinks he should dump CS and go to art school -_- | 13:54 | |
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| mithro | morning people | 17:41 |
| mithro | greywhind_: any luck? | 17:41 |
| mithro | hey Epyon | 17:41 |
| peres | hi mithro | 17:41 |
| JLP | mithro: ahoy | 17:41 |
| mithro | hey peres | 17:41 |
| mithro | didn't end up doing the windows binaries last night, went a saw cloverfield instead | 17:42 |
| peres | i'm going to send you two lists of names in half an hour | 17:42 |
| peres | please have a look at them and tell me which one you like best | 17:43 |
| Epyon | mithro, seen the latest ship | 17:47 |
| Epyon | ? | 17:47 |
| mithro | Epyon: yes, it rocks! :) | 17:47 |
| Epyon | The freighter? | 17:47 |
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| mithro | I've seen two recently | 17:58 |
| mithro | hey greywhind | 17:58 |
| mithro | any luck? | 17:58 |
| mithro | Epyon: so you going to release the stuff so we can use it in tp? | 18:37 |
| Epyon | Yep | 18:41 |
| Epyon | At least most of it I plan. | 18:41 |
| mithro | Epyon: that would be ubber cool | 18:44 |
| mithro | jotham has just started working on the battleviewer again | 18:44 |
| mithro | having some nice ships will make his life a lot easier | 18:44 |
| jotham | pyglet is nice | 18:45 |
| mithro | hey jotham | 18:45 |
| jotham | i can have 500 sprites on the screen at once at 30fps with no real drama | 18:45 |
| jotham | trying to learn enough about opengl to do lasers and crap atm | 18:45 |
| mithro | jotham: any luck sending me a ssh-key? | 18:45 |
| jotham | no i haven't made one | 18:45 |
| jotham | i think i need to set up a new linux box | 18:45 |
| mithro | jotham: if you want, you could use TortoiseCVS (althought that is a little evil) | 18:48 |
| jotham | well i was looking at putting open ssh on my winxp box, then i read this huge drama thread by the putty.exe guy saying how windows RNG wasn't crytographically strong | 18:49 |
| jotham | and suddenly it was 2am and i was still reading about openssh heh | 18:49 |
| jotham | so yeah | 18:49 |
| jotham | i use tortoisecvs for some other projects | 18:49 |
| jotham | but i have git installed on windows, that's no problem | 18:49 |
| jotham | i was just busy getting educated about ssh | 18:49 |
| jotham | specifically openssh on windows | 18:49 |
| jotham | since i normally only use it on linux | 18:50 |
| peres | mithro: should i send the lists to the mailing list instead? | 19:01 |
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| * llnz ponders quietly | 19:25 | |
| * nash waves at llnz | 19:26 | |
| nash | llnz: Hope you didn't mind my patch I sent | 19:26 |
| llnz | patch? what patch? | 19:27 |
| nash | Check RCS | 19:27 |
| llnz | did see the change to the protocol.xml | 19:28 |
| llnz | oh, i see back a bit further in tpserver-cpp | 19:29 |
| jotham | i'm thinking maybe of preprocessing the battle xml files | 19:30 |
| jotham | to merge damage | 19:30 |
| llnz | jotham: why merge damge? | 19:33 |
| jotham | merge damage into fire | 19:34 |
| jotham | because right now the animations would play concurrently | 19:34 |
| jotham | so even if it took 8 seconds to fire, the damage would start animating at the same time | 19:34 |
| jotham | be nicer if you saw laser blast -> damage animation | 19:34 |
| mithro | jotham: if you want to suggest changes to the battlexml format, please do | 19:38 |
| jotham | ok i was just floating the idea to see what kind of feedback happend | 19:39 |
| jotham | because i didn't know how dependant it is on activity higher up the tp foodchain | 19:39 |
| CIA-13 | llnz libtpproto-cpp * r431c9852b38d /tpproto/ (buffer.cpp buffer.h): | 19:40 |
| CIA-13 | Fixed most of the issues with Buffer. | 19:40 |
| CIA-13 | Now works with strings instead of char*, uses specific | 19:40 |
| CIA-13 | uint32_t and 64_t types. Supports TP04 and string padding | 19:40 |
| CIA-13 | filter. | 19:40 |
| CIA-13 | llnz libtpproto-cpp * r343567be4b5a /tpproto/buffer.cpp: Fixed imcomplete work on frame version in readHeader of Buffer. | 19:40 |
| CIA-13 | llnz libtpproto-cpp * r637513adb66d /tpproto/framecodec.cpp: Fixed up FrameCodec for Buffer changes. | 19:40 |
| CIA-13 | llnz libtpproto-cpp * rf91f78adf29a /tpproto/ (okframe.cpp okframe.h): | 19:40 |
| CIA-13 | Fixed OkFrame to work with strings from Buffer. | 19:40 |
| CIA-13 | Also added license information in cpp and h files. | 19:40 |
| CIA-13 | llnz libtpproto-cpp * rcefb55a52ccf /tpproto/ (failframe.cpp failframe.h): | 19:40 |
| CIA-13 | Fixed FailFrame to use strings from Buffer. | 19:40 |
| CIA-13 | Also fixed license info in cpp and h files. | 19:40 |
| CIA-13 | Appears to be missing from a lot of the files. | 19:40 |
| CIA-13 | llnz libtpproto-cpp * r5be4b12d1af7 /tpproto/ (object.cpp object.h): | 19:40 |
| CIA-13 | Fixed Object to use Strings from Buffer. | 19:40 |
| CIA-13 | Also added License information. | 19:40 |
| CIA-13 | llnz libtpproto-cpp * r83bb64bf2dd4 /tpproto/ (board.cpp board.h): | 19:40 |
| CIA-13 | Fixed Board to work with strings from Buffer. | 19:40 |
| CIA-13 | Also added license information. | 19:40 |
| CIA-13 | llnz libtpproto-cpp * r389706253845 /tpproto/ (message.cpp message.h): | 19:41 |
| CIA-13 | Fixed Message to work with strings from Buffer. | 19:41 |
| CIA-13 | Also added license information. | 19:41 |
| CIA-13 | llnz libtpproto-cpp * rfef107d2158c /tpproto/ (orderdesc.cpp orderdesc.h): | 19:41 |
| CIA-13 | Fixed OrderDescription to work with strings from Buffer. | 19:41 |
| CIA-13 | Also added license information. | 19:41 |
| CIA-13 | llnz libtpproto-cpp * r761cc10a2e18 /tpproto/ (4 files): | 19:41 |
| CIA-13 | Fixed ListParamter and StringParameter to work with strings to/from Buffer. | 19:41 |
| CIA-13 | Also added license info to all 4 files. | 19:41 |
| CIA-13 | llnz libtpproto-cpp * rcf2efcaa09a8 /tpproto/redirect.cpp: | 19:41 |
| CIA-13 | Fixed Redirect to work with strings from Buffer. | 19:41 |
| CIA-13 | Only updated date in cpp file, license info already there. | 19:41 |
| mithro | jotham: well it should be pretty organic - if we have a battleviewer which works on a certain battlexml, we are likely to start producing that format :) | 19:42 |
| nash | meeting time...baack soon | 19:48 |
| jotham | alright | 19:48 |
| jotham | well reason i hadn't really mentioned it | 19:48 |
| jotham | was i wanted to actually have a clear plan | 19:49 |
| jotham | before i went throwing ideas around likea fuckwit | 19:49 |
| jotham | right now i'm working through the red book | 19:49 |
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| CIA-13 | llnz tpserver-cpp * rf6c11087fa73 /tpserver/ (objecttype.cpp playeragent.cpp): | 19:56 |
| CIA-13 | Put setType for the ObjectDesc frame in a slightly better place. | 19:56 |
| CIA-13 | I can hardly believe I forgot this. Thanks nash for the quick-fix patch. | 19:56 |
| * llnz notes he has more libtpproto-cpp patches coming, just need to finish them | 19:57 | |
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| llnz | I will be back later | 19:58 |
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| greywhind | mithro: ping? | 20:21 |
| mithro | greywhind: pong | 20:21 |
| greywhind | mithro: check this out... this is running from source on Mac OS 10.3.9 | 20:22 |
| greywhind | http://rafb.net/p/l8uZdv34.html | 20:22 |
| tpb | Title: Nopaste - No description (at rafb.net) | 20:22 |
| mithro | greywhind: hrm :( - that looks like wxPython 2.8.0 was not compiled with compatibility to 10.3.9 | 20:24 |
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| greywhind | mithro: so i should switch to an earlier version? | 20:24 |
| mithro | well, 2.8.0 is the earlier version we really support | 20:24 |
| greywhind | mithro: i guess... we can't support 10.3.9? | 20:25 |
| mithro | possibly | 20:25 |
| mithro | hrm | 20:25 |
| mithro | Got an Intel Mac? All of the wxPython builds for OS X are now Universal Binaries, and will work on OS X 10.3.9 or 10.4.x, PPC or Intel. | 20:25 |
| greywhind | mithro: my intel mac runs 10.4 | 20:26 |
| greywhind | mithro: it's the one i built the package on before | 20:26 |
| mithro | okay - well lets just forget about 10.3.9 | 20:26 |
| greywhind | mithro: in that case, should i just go ahead and build 10.4 packages? should be able to have it done in an hour or so | 20:27 |
| mithro | greywhind: hold on | 20:27 |
| greywhind | mithro: k | 20:27 |
| mithro | we need to update the bundle so it requires 10.4.0 | 20:27 |
| mithro | you will need to change setup.py | 20:27 |
| mithro | so that the line which reads | 20:27 |
| greywhind | mithro: i just feel bad about taking so long :( | 20:27 |
| mithro | "LSMinimumSystemVersion": "10.3.9", | 20:27 |
| mithro | "LSMinimumSystemVersion": "10.4.0", | 20:28 |
| greywhind | mithro: k | 20:28 |
| tpb | aloril has joined on worldforge | 20:28 |
| greywhind | mithro: did that... let me switch back over to that computer so i can chat here more easily | 20:31 |
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| mithro | okay cool | 20:32 |
| mithro | greywhind: sorry about the hassle | 20:32 |
| greywhind | mithro: no, no - i should be apologizing for being so slow to get a simple package built. we were supposed to release days ago :( | 20:33 |
| greywhind | mithro: was that the only change? should i build a package now? | 20:56 |
| greywhind | mithro: Traceback (most recent call last): | 21:09 |
| greywhind | File "./setup.py", line 174, in <module> | 21:09 |
| greywhind | os.system('python version.py --fix > %s' % os.path.join(privatepath, 'version.py')) | 21:09 |
| greywhind | NameError: name 'privatepath' is not defined | 21:09 |
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| mithro | greywhind_: ping | 22:18 |
| mithro | sorry went to lunch | 22:19 |
| * nash guesses llnz won't be back shortly then | 22:49 | |
| mithro | nash: probably not at this hour | 22:52 |
| mithro | he might be back later tonight | 22:52 |
| nash | mithro: Is it worth setting the reply address on tp-cvs -> tp-devel? | 22:56 |
| mithro | nash: not sure - possibly | 22:56 |
| greywhind_ | mithro: pong | 22:57 |
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| nash | Generally speaking tp-cvs should be for pure auto mail, so if I human replies you generally want it on tp-devel | 22:58 |
| mithro | nash: that makes sense | 22:58 |
| mithro | hey greywhind | 22:58 |
| mithro | greywhind: did you end up fixing the privatepath thing? | 22:58 |
| nash | mithro: It's how e-cvs & e-devel work, and it works well | 22:58 |
| greywhind | mithro: nope... wasn't sure what the best fix would be | 22:58 |
| mithro | no cogito in hardy :( | 23:00 |
| greywhind | mithro: any suggestions? | 23:01 |
| mithro | greywhind: just getting you a patch now | 23:02 |
| greywhind | mithro: k | 23:02 |
| mithro | http://rafb.net/p/9Yxz6949.html | 23:03 |
| tpb | Title: Nopaste - No description (at rafb.net) | 23:03 |
| greywhind | mithro: remember, i can't apply one from git and stay back at v.3.0, unless there's a way... | 23:03 |
| mithro | something like that | 23:03 |
| greywhind | mithro: seems fixed | 23:07 |
| mithro | greywhind: make sure you don't accidently commit the "fixed" version of "version.py" | 23:07 |
| greywhind | mithro: i won't be committing from this repo | 23:08 |
| mithro | greywhind: okay | 23:09 |
| mithro | that patch should go into the repository sometime | 23:09 |
| greywhind | mithro: why don't you push it, rather than me, along with the 10.4 version bump | 23:10 |
| mithro | greywhind: as your the one who can confirm they work :P | 23:10 |
| greywhind | mithro: so i should untrack version.py, make the changes to setup.py, and then commit and push? | 23:11 |
| mithro | well, do the commit | 23:11 |
| mithro | do the release | 23:11 |
| mithro | then merge the commit back into mainline | 23:12 |
| greywhind | mithro: i'm still getting the "may be damaged or incomplete" error when doubleclicking the app in the .dmg | 23:12 |
| mithro | greywhind: does that always happen? or just on the computer you build with/ | 23:12 |
| greywhind | mithro: but not for the one in ./dist | 23:12 |
| greywhind | mithro: not sure... i could check | 23:13 |
| mithro | greywhind: I mean if you copy the .dmg to another 10.4 computer, does it still say it's damaged? | 23:13 |
| greywhind | mithro: but i'm not sure i could check tonight - unless you have a 10.4 computer you can test on | 23:13 |
| mithro | greywhind: not I don't | 23:13 |
| mithro | whats the size of the dmg now? | 23:14 |
| greywhind | mithro: 36.3 mb | 23:14 |
| mithro | greywhind: okay - thats not to bad | 23:15 |
| greywhind | mithro: the app on the .dmg is 135.6 mb, whereas the one in the dist folder is 137.4 | 23:15 |
| greywhind | could that point to something not being copied correctly? | 23:15 |
| greywhind | mithro: never mind... apparently Mac's size info is just not working. | 23:16 |
| greywhind | mithro: Size: 135.6 MB on disk (140,534,327 bytes) | 23:16 |
| mithro | wow, macs suck :( | 23:17 |
| greywhind | mithro: Size: 137.4 MB on disk (140,534,327 bytes) | 23:17 |
| greywhind | how in the world did it get two different sizes from the same number of bytes?! | 23:17 |
| mithro | greywhind: thats "interesting" :P | 23:18 |
| mithro | greywhind: how long will it take to upload the dmg file? | 23:20 |
| greywhind | mithro: where to? | 23:21 |
| greywhind | mithro: i have 512 kbps up, i believe | 23:21 |
| mithro | greywhind: anywhere | 23:21 |
| mithro | got a guy here with 10.5 which can test | 23:21 |
| greywhind | mithro: not sure where i should upload to... i've never had to upload such a large file | 23:22 |
| mithro | but if it's going to take you 6 hours, it might be better for you to test locally | 23:22 |
| mithro | greywhind: I can give you permission to upload directly to the www.thousandparsec.net if you want | 23:22 |
| greywhind | mithro: ok | 23:23 |
| mithro | greywhind: you will need to use sftp or scp | 23:23 |
| greywhind | mithro: pretty sure i can do that | 23:23 |
| mithro | greywhind: okay you should be able to do a | 23:24 |
| mithro | scp -c blowfish <abc>.dmg [email protected]:~/public_html/ | 23:25 |
| greywhind | mithro: scp: /home/users/nathan/public_html/tpclient-pywx_0.3.0.dmg: Permission denied | 23:27 |
| mithro | try again now | 23:28 |
| mithro | forgot to change the permissions to you :) | 23:28 |
| greywhind | mithro: success | 23:28 |
| mithro | got a timeline? | 23:28 |
| mithro | http://www.thousandparsec.net/~nathan/ | 23:28 |
| tpb | Title: Index of /~nathan (at www.thousandparsec.net) | 23:28 |
| greywhind | mithro: about 10 minutes | 23:28 |
| mithro | that isn't to bad | 23:29 |
| greywhind | mithro: hopefully a little less, 8 or so | 23:29 |
| mithro | nash: done! | 23:31 |
| nash | mithro: C&F | 23:31 |
| mithro | C&F? | 23:31 |
| nash | Cool & Fruity | 23:31 |
| mithro | greywhind: poke me when it finished | 23:38 |
| greywhind | mithro: it just did, actually | 23:39 |
| mithro | greywhind: can't really test until after work | 23:41 |
| greywhind | mithro: well, if it works, there's your release. if not, i'll re-do it tomorrow | 23:41 |
| mithro | ~seen Appleman1234 | 23:48 |
| tpb | mithro: Appleman1234 was last seen in #tp 1 day, 5 hours, 11 minutes, and 31 seconds ago: <Appleman1234> another project* (work related) | 23:48 |
| mithro | greywhind: you heading to bed? | 23:48 |
| greywhind | mithro: soon | 23:48 |
| mithro | The next/back buttons seem to work | 23:48 |
| mithro | but I don't thing the location is the right place | 23:48 |
| greywhind | mithro: do they function as you'd like them to at least? | 23:48 |
| mithro | greywhind: yeah, although I think there should be a "next in system" and a "next system"? | 23:49 |
| greywhind | mithro: ok | 23:49 |
| greywhind | mithro: where would you like them placed? | 23:50 |
| mithro | I was thinking maybe near the picture or on the starmap toolbar | 23:50 |
| mithro | the starmap should have some shortcuts added for the cycling | 23:50 |
| greywhind | mithro: ok. i thought it made sense on the system list, because that's essentially what it's cycling through | 23:51 |
| mithro | greywhind: well, just two buttons don't look right | 23:51 |
| greywhind | mithro: maybe with three it will | 23:51 |
| mithro | possibly | 23:55 |
| mithro | I think it more of cycling throught the starmap then the systems tree (which you can do with the arrow keys) | 23:56 |
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