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| JLP | mithro: quite busy, preparing some workshops and presentations about Linux and FLOSS for the week when primary school here has holidays | 00:01 |
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| JLP | I also got "a little" part time job at our largest Slovenian computer company, mainly helping with documentation and QA | 00:03 |
| JLP | mithro: and it looks like something like Python will be more suited to help me for the job at work than c++, so i plan to start learning it soon | 00:11 |
| JLP | any recommendations on good book or website? | 00:12 |
| mithro | dive into python | 00:12 |
| mithro | how to think like a python programmer? | 00:12 |
| JLP | mithro: thanks, noted | 00:14 |
| mithro | JLP: you could also hack on tp :) | 00:14 |
| JLP | mithro: yeah, it will also be good for TP, but i should first get my poor parsek into usable state, i'm already way behind my plans with it, damn this real life | 00:16 |
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| mithro | hey jotham | 00:23 |
| mithro | jotham: you decided to leave #pygame permanently? | 00:24 |
| jotham | uhm | 00:28 |
| jotham | i only go there to chat to matthew and piman, and i don't think it's apropriate to socialise in a on-topic channel as much as we do | 00:29 |
| jotham | so as much as i like them, i will avoid it mostly | 00:29 |
| jotham | i think it's to the detriment of the pygame project | 00:29 |
| mithro | ahh well | 00:35 |
| mithro | so how goes the battleviewer :P | 00:35 |
| jotham | am working on it atm | 00:36 |
| jotham | looks like pyglet has a better way of dealing with animations | 00:36 |
| mithro | cool | 00:36 |
| CIA-12 | nash galaxie * re53bc461b611 / (server.c tpe_obj.c): Connect to a TP04 server | 00:51 |
| CIA-12 | nash galaxie * ra59613dfeaca /server.c: Throw an error the second someone sends a dodgy packet | 00:51 |
| nash | mithro: Enjoy | 00:51 |
| mithro | nash: yay :) | 00:57 |
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| mithro | ~seen Epyon | 02:49 |
| tpb | mithro: Epyon was last seen in #tp 5 days, 18 hours, 24 minutes, and 14 seconds ago: <Epyon> I plan to seriously jump at my game this year | 02:49 |
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| jotham | we might have to rearrange the data in these xml's a bit | 06:06 |
| jotham | right now you can get damage events before anyone has apparently fired, which means i have to hack it to figure out who fired at it | 06:06 |
| jotham | humm | 06:07 |
| jotham | bbl | 06:07 |
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| remaxim | hi | 06:37 |
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| remaxim | hi | 07:59 |
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| mithro | hey greywhind! | 18:58 |
| greywhind | hey mithro | 18:58 |
| mithro | any luck building the 10.3.9 binaries? | 18:59 |
| greywhind | mithro: haven't tried... i really don't want to set TP up on that computer. | 18:59 |
| mithro | at the moment getting a working mac binary is pretty important | 19:00 |
| greywhind | mithro: it's mostly used by my parents, and they probably won't like me sitting there for hours trying to set it up and get it to build... | 19:00 |
| mithro | greywhind: have access to any 10.3.9 computers? | 19:02 |
| greywhind | mithro: just that one and my sister's... | 19:02 |
| mithro | the only thing blocking the release announcement are binaries for Mac and Windows | 19:03 |
| greywhind | mithro: are there really that many people still using 10.3.9? | 19:03 |
| greywhind | mithro: i'll ask my parents if i can build TP on their computer. you'll have to tell me how to set it up again | 19:05 |
| mithro | greywhind: the type of people who would play tp, 10.3.9 would be pretty common | 19:07 |
| greywhind | mithro: k then | 19:07 |
| greywhind | mithro: alright. i can build it. let me switch over there... | 19:11 |
| mithro | okay, thanks | 19:12 |
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| greywhind | mithro: so what do i do first? | 19:16 |
| mithro | just follow the mac os x developer instructions? | 19:16 |
| greywhind | mithro: by the way, development branch is gone, correct? | 19:22 |
| greywhind | mithro: what branch should i commit to now? | 19:25 |
| mithro | greywhind: stable | 19:26 |
| greywhind | mithro: so tpclient-pywx.git#stable? | 19:26 |
| mithro | yeah | 19:26 |
| CIA-12 | noegnud tpclient-pywx-stable * rf1e8f7136154 / (4 files in 3 dirs): | 19:30 |
| CIA-12 | Added forward and backward buttons to Systems panel. | 19:30 |
| CIA-12 | Supporting code is in StateTracker. | 19:30 |
| CIA-12 | noegnud tpclient-pywx-stable * rcc94aa32e5b2 / (6 files in 4 dirs): Merge with stable. | 19:30 |
| greywhind | mithro: see if that operates like you want it to | 19:31 |
| mithro | okay will doo | 19:31 |
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| greywhind | mithro: how necessary is pybonjour? | 19:33 |
| mithro | greywhind: not really needed at the moment | 19:33 |
| greywhind | mithro: ok | 19:33 |
| mithro | the pyzeroconf fallback seems to work pretty well | 19:33 |
| greywhind | mithro: well, it's giving me an error when i run setup.py | 19:33 |
| greywhind | Traceback (most recent call last): | 19:34 |
| greywhind | File "./setup.py", line 32, in ? | 19:34 |
| greywhind | import pybonjour | 19:34 |
| greywhind | File "/Users/williamp/Desktop/pybonjour-1.1.0/pybonjour.py", line 250 | 19:34 |
| greywhind | @classmethod | 19:34 |
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| greywhind | mithro: never mind | 19:36 |
| greywhind | mithro: i had the old version of python still taking priority over the new one | 19:36 |
| mithro | oh, did you use the python2.4 or python2.5? | 19:37 |
| mithro | python2.4 would have probably been better as you can get a pygame for it | 19:37 |
| greywhind | mithro: now i have 2.5 | 19:37 |
| greywhind | mithro: old one was 2.3 | 19:37 |
| mithro | okay | 19:38 |
| greywhind | mithro: now, you want me to build at a specific tag, correct? | 19:39 |
| mithro | greywhind: yeah | 19:39 |
| greywhind | mithro: how do i get only the commits up to that tag? | 19:39 |
| mithro | arg, I have no idea :( | 19:39 |
| mithro | Epyon: ping? | 19:39 |
| nash | greywhind: git checkout tagname? | 19:41 |
| greywhind | nash: thanks... will try it as soon as i actually have git installed :P | 19:42 |
| greywhind | forgot that part | 19:42 |
| nash | greywhind: what are you using? | 19:43 |
| greywhind | nash: my other computer with Mac OS 10.3.9 | 19:43 |
| mithro | nash: trying to build mac binaries | 19:44 |
| mithro | what I really need is a Mac OS X 10.3.9 vmware image or something | 19:44 |
| greywhind | mithro: not allowed, unfortunately | 19:44 |
| mithro | greywhind: yeah - was 10.3.9 before they switch to intel anyway? | 19:44 |
| greywhind | mithro: yes | 19:45 |
| greywhind | mithro: the git installer linked on the wiki doesn't seem to actually do anything... | 19:47 |
| mithro | greywhind: :( | 19:47 |
| greywhind | mithro: 2008-02-04 17:52:05.927 Installer[1631] Can't open package /Volumes/Git/Git.mpkg (there was an error reading the file Git.info). | 19:47 |
| mithro | I'm afraid I'm little out of my depth - I don't know much about mac installers | 19:48 |
| greywhind | mithro: hah. it's because there _isn't_ a file Git.info in thee | 19:48 |
| greywhind | *there | 19:48 |
| mithro | maybe it's a "we don't support 10.3.9 anymore" type thing? | 19:48 |
| greywhind | mithro: git-core cannot be installed on this computer. | 19:48 |
| greywhind | Mac OS X 10.4.9 is required for this installation. | 19:48 |
| mithro | greywhind: dang - maybe just use a network share? | 19:49 |
| greywhind | mithro; i'm trying to find another package | 19:49 |
| greywhind | mithro: and www.dpompa.com (the place the package is linked from) crashes my browser... | 19:51 |
| mithro | :( | 19:51 |
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| greywhind | mithro: so i'm installing git from MacPorts | 20:27 |
| mithro | greywhind: sorry for the trouble :( | 20:28 |
| greywhind | mithro: it's worth it | 20:28 |
| greywhind | at least, as long as it works | 20:28 |
| mithro | greywhind: yeah, hopefully it will | 20:28 |
| greywhind | mithro: i have the feeling this computer is going to take hours to actually make the package | 20:29 |
| mithro | greywhind: when I last build it on my sisters Ibook (which is now running 10.4) it only took about 10 minutes | 20:30 |
| greywhind | mithro: based on how long it's taking to build pkgconfig | 20:30 |
| mithro | :( | 20:30 |
| greywhind | apparently i didn't have curl... or not a new enough version | 20:33 |
| greywhind | that's odd | 20:33 |
| greywhind | or maybe MacPorts just doesn't use the standard Mac curl | 20:33 |
| nash | mithro: Do you know when llnz will be back around | 20:38 |
| mithro | nash: early next week | 20:39 |
| nash | okay | 20:40 |
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| mithro | got more tpserver-cpp patches? | 20:45 |
| nash | Nope, got some fundamental bugs | 20:46 |
| nash | Basically tpserver-cpp doesn't follow the protocol for sending stuff | 20:47 |
| nash | And being C++ it's essentially impossible to debug | 20:47 |
| jotham | so i need svn or whatever access again i guess | 20:50 |
| jotham | did my first block of code against pyglet last night | 20:51 |
| greywhind | ---> Verifying checksum(s) for expat | 20:54 |
| greywhind | Error: Checksum (md5) mismatch for expat-2.0.1.tar.gz | 20:54 |
| greywhind | Error: Checksum (sha1) mismatch for expat-2.0.1.tar.gz | 20:54 |
| greywhind | Error: Checksum (rmd160) mismatch for expat-2.0.1.tar.gz | 20:54 |
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| mithro | jotham: you should still have your git access | 21:03 |
| jotham | uh | 21:04 |
| jotham | i don't have the computers i was using any more | 21:05 |
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| mithro | jotham: could you send me a new ssh-key then | 21:10 |
| mithro | and I'll replace your old one | 21:10 |
| jotham | uhm | 21:10 |
| jotham | hum' | 21:11 |
| mithro | hrm? | 21:18 |
| mithro | jotham: I believe you use to commit to our git repositories before? | 21:19 |
| jotham | sure | 21:27 |
| jotham | but it was like a year ago | 21:27 |
| mithro | okay - so I assume you have totally forgotten how :P | 21:28 |
| mithro | jotham: do you remeber how to generate a ssh key? | 21:29 |
| mithro | BTW Are you on Linux, windows or MacOS X these days? | 21:29 |
| jotham | i dev in winxp, i have ubuntu in a virtual machine, and i have an osx laptop | 21:33 |
| jotham | am building a server atm that will be able to virtualise as many linuxes and windows as i need | 21:33 |
| jotham | (3) | 21:33 |
| jotham | i can generate an ssh key | 21:33 |
| jotham | when i get home i'll sort it out | 21:34 |
| mithro | okay | 21:46 |
| nash | mithro: Protocolxml on the website for tp04 is the most recent version right? | 23:34 |
| mithro | dunno | 23:35 |
| nash | Okay, second question... I'm the first to try an implement client side object descriptions? | 23:36 |
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