Sunday, 2008-01-06

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mithrojotham: ping?01:39
mithro~seen jotham01:39
tpbmithro: jotham was last seen in #tp 2 weeks, 3 days, 18 hours, 6 minutes, and 6 seconds ago: <jotham> it should be functional soon01:39
jothamhey mithro01:43
jothami am back from holiday01:43
mithrojotham: how was it?01:43
jothamfeh01:43
mithrohave fun?01:43
jothambroke up with my girlfriend01:43
jothamso yeah not so much01:43
mithrodang01:43
jothamanyway i aim to start working on a few projects as of tomorrow01:43
mithroI'm assuming that sucks01:43
jothamfor the proceeding week01:43
jothamincluding battle viewer01:43
mithrothat would be ubber cool01:44
jothamyeah, breaking up is shit, since i quit my job, and got rid of my appartment and stuff01:44
jothamsince her and i were going to move away togeather01:44
mithrojotham: well, my offer stills stands - you get a working battleviewer - I'll send you some free swag01:45
mithrojotham: oh, remaxim did some "battle" music01:49
mithro[05:30] <remaxim> I just finished the battle theme: http://www.box.net/shared/z6y3i2mg4001:50
tpbTitle: Box.net - Free Online File Storage, Internet File Sharing, Online Storage, Access Documents & Files Anywhere, Backup Data, Send Files (at www.box.net)01:50
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mithrollnz: ping?05:39
llnzmithro: pong05:41
mithrollnz: i'm going to push a change05:43
mithroit's still really buggy05:43
CIA-11mithro tpclient-pywx-development * rd1c53325e752 /windows/main/overlays/Systems.py: Fixed the ID mapping stuff so that it won't cause BadStuff(tm) in some cases.05:43
CIA-11mithro tpclient-pywx-development * re05e5c3153a4 /windows/main/ (4 files in 2 dirs): First attempt at getting the right-click path stuff actually working. Still needs quite a bit of work.05:43
mithrobut it will let you issue move orders in the client05:44
llnzcool05:44
mithrothe client doesn't like the new possible state transissions that this introduces05:46
mithrollnz: have you done any video composing? I need to put together a demo reel for the open day05:46
JLPahoy *05:47
mithrohey JLP05:48
llnzmithro: i have done some video editing05:50
mithrowhat I need to do is get a bunch of videos from various FOSS games05:50
mithroand string them together with "slides" in between05:50
mithroI would also want to overlay over the video the URL for the game the demo is showing05:51
mithrollnz: want to give the above a try?05:57
mithrollnz: do you know how to do that video stuff?05:57
llnzi'm rather busy unfortunately06:00
llnzi use kino, with really only does DV video06:00
mithrollnz: well, it would be trivial to convert the other stuff to DV with mplayer06:04
llnztrue06:06
* llnz just books his transfers between sydney and melbourne06:07
llnzand booked accomodation after the conference (already had booked for during conference)06:12
llnzjust having a little trouble with accomodation in sydney before lca06:13
mithroI need to head to bed in a minute06:30
mithroFSCK! I still have not done remaxim's stuff06:30
mithrollnz: do you think you'll have time to give it a whirl tommorrow?06:36
mithroJLP: could use your feedback too06:36
mithroselect an object which has the move order06:36
mithrothen right click on where you want it to go06:37
llnzi'll try06:37
JLPmithro: sure, i'll check it out06:37
mithrostill plenty of bugs so don't be shocked when strange things happen06:37
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llnzlater all07:00
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JLPmithro: if the middle mouse button is free, maybe you could use this for special go to menu07:33
JLPmithro: otherwise it works fine07:34
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mithromorning nash16:36
nashHeyo mithro16:36
mithroyou can finally issue move orders easily in tpclient-pywx16:37
nashCool16:38
mithrowhich have highlighted a few changes I need to make16:39
nashThat's cool16:40
nashI need to fix galaxies bugs.,.. currnetly crash the server when I submit a mover order...16:40
nashguess I'm getting something wrong16:40
nashmithro: Tell me when it's ready then, then I'll give it a try16:41
mithrowell it shouldn't crash the server :P16:41
mithronash: well, I would like feedback for all the other stuff too16:41
mithroexcept the intro movie16:41
mithro(which I know you hate)16:42
nashYes16:45
nashIt's obnoxious and pops up in the wrong place16:45
mithroanyway, i have to head off to work16:45
mithrobblr16:45
nashtalk to you soon17:02
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mithrohey people17:39
nashBack again hey?17:42
mithroat work :(17:48
mithronash: why is the intro movie obnoxious? if you click or hit a key the thing will open as soon as it can (instead of waiting for the movie to finish)17:55
nashFor the same reason splash screens are obnoxious + the fact it pops up at the wrong place + the wrong desktop17:56
nashmithro: It's an extra window which has no purpose but advertising17:57
nashIt's a pop-up ad for a program17:57
nashNow if you think pop-ups on web browsers aren't obnoxious.. that's fine..17:57
nashBut I get annoyed at websites with landing pages I need to click through, I get annoyed at popup ads, so why the hell wouldn't I get annoyed at a popup window, which interferes with my normal program usage?17:58
nashbs17:58
nashbbs17:58
mithroI had forgotten about how fun programming could be18:02
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midorikidI keep reading about TP04, but I can't find a protocol.xml for it in the git repository.  Is it kept somewhere else?19:27
mithromidorikid: hello19:29
midorikidHi!19:29
mithroyou new here? :)19:29
midorikidYes.  Sorry that I haven't introduced myself.19:29
mithrohttp://www.thousandparsec.net/tp/dev/documents/protocolxml.php <- HTML from the xml19:29
tpb<http://ln-s.net/JXj> (at www.thousandparsec.net)19:29
midorikidThanks.19:30
mithrohttp://git.thousandparsec.net/gitweb/gitweb.cgi?p=documents.git;a=tree;f=protocol19:30
tpb<http://ln-s.net/1O8f> (at git.thousandparsec.net)19:30
mithrothat is the source XML file19:30
mithromidorikid: so what are you interested in?19:30
midorikidI was looking at libtpproto and the cpp text client.19:31
midorikidI just sent a small patch for the tests in libtpproto-cpp.19:32
midorikidNot sure if I got the format right.19:33
mithroso you are interested in writing tests for the library?19:33
mithroor do you want to actually write a C++ based client?19:33
midorikidYes, tests for the library.  Does that sound like a good idea?19:34
nashmidorikid: Tests are fantastic ;-)19:34
midorikidI'm interested in eventually writing a client, but that's much farther down the road.19:34
mithromidorikid: out of interest what type of client?19:35
nashmidorikid: There are quite a few other clients you can modify/expand etc19:35
* nash hints at galaxie ;-)19:35
mithrowould you be interested in helping out JLP with the Parsek (KDE + C++) client19:35
midorikidIt's a little embarassing, but I've been messing around with Nintendo DS stuff for a while now.19:35
midorikidI would be willing to help with a client already in development, though.19:36
midorikidAt the moment, I don't want to bite off more than I can chew.19:36
mithroso you want to play Thousand Parsec on your DS?19:36
midorikidYes, I don't know how realistic that sounds, but I think it'd be a fun project.19:37
mithromidorikid: well, let me introduce you to nash - he is writing a client called Galaxie and already has plans for handheld device domination19:37
midorikidMy final project for my last CS course was a GBA game, so I'm a little experienced with embedded dev.19:37
midorikidHi, nash!19:38
* mithro pokes nash - time to be a recruiter ;)19:38
midorikidI haven't taken a look at Galaxie yet.19:38
mithrogalaxie is written in C and based on the Enlightenment Foundation Libraries19:39
mithronash writes embedded graphics stuff for a living at FancyPants19:39
mithrohopefully I got that all right :)19:39
midorikidI'd like to start small, though.  That's why I thought I should get to know the system and protocol by delving into libtpproto.19:40
midorikidThe protocol version of that file is TP03.  Is that a mistake?19:41
mithroof which file?19:42
nashSorry, distracted... silly paid work thing... ;-)19:42
nashmidorikid: It is quite portable19:42
nashNever gone to a DS however ;-)19:42
midorikidprotocol.xml in the git repository.  Maybe I'm looking at the wrong branch.19:42
nashHowever I have a DS, so if you want to start a porting effort, I'm happy to a help, and b) give you comit ;-)19:43
nashmidorikid: Current official protocol it tp0419:43
nashmidorikid: Sorry: Current official protocol is tp0319:43
nashNothing supports tp04 yet19:43
nashProgress is on it's way.19:43
nashSome issues are still being dealth with before it is finialised,19:43
nashgalaxie and tpserver-cpp have partial support19:44
nashgalaxie did support everything tpserver-cpp did, but llnz has pulled ahead, and I haven't caught yup yet19:44
midorikidThanks!  I appreciate the invitation.  Does galaxy use a tpproto lib?19:44
nashmidorikid: Nope ;-)19:45
nashmidorikid: It's pure, unadulterated C19:45
mithromidorikid: ahh you are right, can you send an email19:45
midorikidI can send email. :)  What do you mean?19:46
midorikidOh, a patch maybe?19:47
mithromidorikid: can you send an email to the list noting the problem, an attached patch would be even better19:48
midorikidYes, that wouldn't be a problem.  I'll do it after dinner.19:49
mithromidorikid: btw, which timezone/location are you in?19:49
mithromidorikid: I'm guessing pacific?19:49
midorikidThanks for all the information.  I have to go for a while.  I hope I can help in the future!19:49
midorikidYes, Pacific.19:49
midorikidReno, NV, USA19:50
mithrocool19:50
mithromidorikid: btw, it cool to have a person who is interested :)19:50
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midorikidmithro: After poking around the repository I found that the master and experimental branches contain TP03 and the experimental-xml branch contains TP04.  It looks like it's that way intentionally, so I'll abort the patch.20:47
mithromidorikid: which branch where you looking in?20:47
midorikidmaster and experimental.  I never checked the experimental-xml.20:48
mithrohrm, I wonder why experimental-xml exists20:51
* mithro downloads the branches to diff them20:52
mithromidorikid: it should be in the master branch too20:53
midorikidOkay, thanks.  I'll submit a patch along with a request for clarification on the different branches.20:54
mithrogood idea20:58
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mithrohope he comes back22:10
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nashThat's our device... not running our software :-( http://gizmodo.com/photogallery/intelumpcces08/100042604123:24
tpb<http://ln-s.net/1O-j> (at gizmodo.com)23:24

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