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| mithro | o so quiet | 01:00 |
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| mithro | greywhind: ping? | 01:00 |
| mithro | I wish someone would pay for me to work on Thousand Parsec :P | 01:00 |
| jotham | heh, i just wish i had spare time | 01:01 |
| jotham | i haven't done any non-work programming on anything for weeks | 01:01 |
| jotham | not even my own personal stuff | 01:01 |
| jotham | it's pretty shitty | 01:01 |
| mithro | jotham: :/ | 01:01 |
| mithro | one cool think about working is atleast I have an income now | 01:02 |
| mithro | s/think/thing/ | 01:02 |
| jotham | it's really hard to keep focused on hobby projects after working an 8 hour day | 01:02 |
| jotham | but i tend to do fine | 01:02 |
| jotham | i've unfortunatly been doing 12-14 hour days | 01:02 |
| mithro | I wish I had gotten more done on the flights :/ | 01:02 |
| jotham | where did you go | 01:05 |
| mithro | the Google Summer of Code Mentor summit in San Francisco | 01:06 |
| jotham | cool | 01:06 |
| mithro | http://blog.mithis.net/archives/tp/59-mentor-summit | 01:09 |
| tpb | <http://ln-s.net/12xt> (at blog.mithis.net) | 01:09 |
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| mithro | hey brlcad | 02:13 |
| mithro | what have you been up too? | 02:13 |
| mithro | we didn't get a change to play a RFTS game :/ | 02:13 |
| brlcad | mithro: notes are uploaded, feel free to update/annotate/ignore/whatever ;) http://googlesummerofcode.jot.com/WikiHome/OpenSourceGaming | 02:13 |
| tpb | <http://ln-s.net/12yc> (at googlesummerofcode.jot.com) | 02:13 |
| brlcad | we were talking way too fast to get really great notes, so I had to fill in a lot of details from memory | 02:14 |
| brlcad | should put up more about your linuxconf gaming session (if I even got that right!) | 02:14 |
| brlcad | I tried to play RTFS .. downloaded the client, but I think it's quite a bit out of date | 02:16 |
| brlcad | hadn't dropped to source just yet | 02:16 |
| mithro | yeah the downloads on the website are quite out of date | 02:18 |
| mithro | I really need to get the dev version into a usable state | 02:18 |
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| mithro | hi JeffM! | 02:24 |
| JeffM | hey | 02:24 |
| JeffM | get home ok? | 02:24 |
| mithro | yes, I'm assuming I met you at the Mentor Summit :) | 02:24 |
| mithro | which project where with you again? | 02:25 |
| JeffM | bzflag | 02:25 |
| mithro | ahh cool | 02:25 |
| mithro | I also have to send out the CFP for the Gaming Miniconf :/ | 02:27 |
| mithro | to much to do, so little time | 02:27 |
| mithro | brlcad: http://miniconf.mel8ourne.org/wiki/index.php?title=Gaming | 02:29 |
| tpb | <http://ln-s.net/uwZ> (at miniconf.mel8ourne.org) | 02:29 |
| brlcad | I would have to have a paper accepted to go to that conference | 02:30 |
| brlcad | and even then, it'd be tough to manage .. it's expensive to hit that corner of the planet :) | 02:31 |
| mithro | brlcad: i know :/ | 02:31 |
| mithro | I need to poke xdotx and Fro again | 02:34 |
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| mithro | hey JLP | 02:52 |
| mithro | you alive? | 02:53 |
| JLP | mithro: yeah | 02:53 |
| mithro | JLP: how goes everything? | 02:53 |
| JLP | mithro: we had a little natural disaster here, floods | 02:53 |
| mithro | you haven't been around much :/ | 02:53 |
| mithro | JLP: you could send the water here, we are in the worst droughts in recorded history | 02:54 |
| JLP | mithro: yeah, we were completely separated from the world, no internet, no traffic connections, barely any electricity | 02:54 |
| JLP | mithro: now we are slowly comming back to normal | 02:55 |
| mithro | how long did they cause problems for? | 02:55 |
| mithro | JLP: so I assume no progress on the Qtopia front? | 02:57 |
| JLP | the heavy rain and flood was for about 4 days, after that we needed about a week to clean landslides and everything | 02:57 |
| mithro | :/ | 02:58 |
| JLP | mithro: no, absolutely no progress on anything but cleaning | 02:58 |
| JLP | and now that internet is back i also have a lot of e-mail cleaning to do :) | 02:59 |
| JLP | mithro: anything important happened here while i was back in the dark age | 03:00 |
| JLP | I see a couple of new people here: DTRemenak, kandinski | 03:01 |
| mithro | ~seen DTRemenak | 03:04 |
| tpb | mithro: I have not seen DTRemenak. | 03:04 |
| mithro | he hasn't said anything since joining | 03:04 |
| mithro | ~seen kandinski | 03:04 |
| tpb | mithro: kandinski was last seen in #tp 3 weeks, 3 days, 20 hours, 45 minutes, and 52 seconds ago: <kandinski> my connection wen t away | 03:04 |
| mithro | JLP: well, Lee and I went to the Google Mentor Summit | 03:05 |
| JLP | mithro: oh yeah i remember hearing or reading something about it | 03:05 |
| JLP | mithro: how was it? | 03:05 |
| mithro | pretty good but very short | 03:05 |
| JLP | mithro: sounds like aKademy :) | 03:06 |
| brlcad | too short | 03:07 |
| mithro | just when you started to get into the swing of things it ended :/ | 03:08 |
| JLP | cool, I just did a quck search thru e-mail and the Qtopia deadline has been moved from 31 october to 30 november | 03:09 |
| mithro | JLP: so do you think you are going to get a chance to do any work on it? | 03:09 |
| JLP | mithro: i think that in 6 weeks i can pull it off, i was about to give up on this, 2 weeks wouldn't be enought, but now that it is extended... | 03:11 |
| mithro | JLP: that would be cool | 03:12 |
| mithro | hopefully Lee will be able to finish my challenge soon | 03:13 |
| JLP | mithro: i just have to finish setting up my new laptop i got a couple of days ago, and then i should start working hard on this | 03:13 |
| JLP | mithro: also there is no exams now as the university has just started so no pressure because of this | 03:13 |
| mithro | JLP: that is good | 03:13 |
| JLP | mithro: btw it would be good to write some GSoC recap news article for the front page | 03:15 |
| mithro | JLP: that is another thing on my long list of things to do | 03:15 |
| mithro | JLP: I need to poke the students again so we can get some of the stuff release ready | 03:16 |
| mithro | ~seen niphree | 03:17 |
| tpb | mithro: niphree was last seen in #tp 5 weeks, 4 days, 19 hours, 44 minutes, and 32 seconds ago: <niphree> ok | 03:17 |
| * DTRemenak never says anything, he just lurks :) | 03:22 | |
| mithro | DTRemenak: you just broke your rule then :) | 03:23 |
| mithro | DTRemenak: so what about Thousand Parsec most interests you? | 03:23 |
| * DTRemenak didn't SAY anything, he just DID something :P | 03:24 | |
| mithro | DTRemenak: you are another bzflag person? | 03:24 |
| * DTRemenak looked for a decent OSS 4x TBS for a long time :) | 03:24 | |
| DTRemenak | now gee, why would you think that? :) | 03:24 |
| mithro | DTRemenak: you are an op on the bzflag channel according to whois? | 03:25 |
| mithro | [DTRemenak] #tp +#bzflag :) | 03:25 |
| DTRemenak | voiced, not op | 03:26 |
| * DTRemenak tries not to retain autoop anywhere | 03:26 | |
| DTRemenak | lower channel temperatures when there are less ops | 03:26 |
| DTRemenak | as "just a guy" I don't have to be nearly as careful about telling people to STFU as if I'm an op ;) | 03:27 |
| mithro | ahh okay | 03:27 |
| brlcad | looks like he's op'd to me | 03:28 |
| DTRemenak | bah, brlcad's pulling tricksies | 03:28 |
| brlcad | tee hee | 03:29 |
| brlcad | mmm.. pulling tricks | 03:29 |
| mithro | lies, all lies! | 03:29 |
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| * brlcad enjoins | 03:49 | |
| mithro | wb brlcad | 03:49 |
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| mithro | hi Epyon | 18:51 |
| mithro | ~seen Erroneous | 18:52 |
| tpb | mithro: I have not seen Erroneous. | 18:52 |
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| mithro | morning nash | 18:54 |
| * Erroneous never says anything, he just lurks | 18:55 | |
| mithro | Erroneous: yeah I noticed that already :) | 18:55 |
| nash | Heyo mithro | 18:55 |
| Erroneous | :) | 18:55 |
| nash | Erroneous: Was speaking a mistake then? | 18:55 |
| Erroneous | depends what I spoke, I suppose | 18:56 |
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| mithro | morning people | 19:29 |
| greywhind | mithro: hey - i got the text bug fixed, except for removing everything when changing to a different ship | 19:30 |
| nash | mithro: You may want to set up a page like this: http://kerneltrap.org/Linux/Student_Kernel_Projects | 19:30 |
| tpb | Title: Student Kernel Projects | KernelTrap (at kerneltrap.org) | 19:30 |
| nash | And I mean a proper page, not just a list of "Why not do some generator?" | 19:31 |
| mithro | nash: yeah - we probably should | 19:31 |
| mithro | so much to do, so little time | 19:31 |
| nash | :-) | 19:33 |
| * nash knows the feeling | 19:33 | |
| mithro | I really need to get the CFP for the Gaming Miniconf out | 19:34 |
| mithro | otherwise it will be Thousand Parsec Miniconf :P | 19:34 |
| mithro | I need to do my tax too :/ | 19:35 |
| mithro | greywhind: ping? | 19:36 |
| greywhind | mithro: pong | 19:36 |
| mithro | hey | 19:36 |
| greywhind | hey | 19:36 |
| mithro | you kind of just disappeared yesterday | 19:36 |
| mithro | [09:42] <mithro> I thought up some new stuff for you to work on :P | 19:37 |
| mithro | [09:42] <mithro> I would like you to add "next object/previous object" buttons | 19:37 |
| mithro | [09:43] <mithro> you figure out the text problem at all? | 19:37 |
| mithro | I have reserved this weekend for completing the new starmap for tpclient-pywx | 19:37 |
| greywhind | sorry. i wanted to get to sleep early, since break was ending. | 19:37 |
| greywhind | i got the text bug fixed, except for removing everything when changing to a different ship | 19:38 |
| mithro | greywhind: oh, don't forget to push it :) | 19:38 |
| greywhind | mithro: yeah, once i get the remove fixed. | 19:39 |
| greywhind | right now, instead of disappearing, the old items bunch up like everything did before i fixed the first text bug | 19:39 |
| mithro | greywhind: if you get some time this weekend, I think we should sit down and plan something a little more interesting for you to work on | 19:39 |
| greywhind | mithro: sure. | 19:40 |
| mithro | if you get that bug finished, I would like you to figure out the best place to put 'next object', 'previous object' buttons and to figure out what that actually means | 19:41 |
| greywhind | heh - you mean on the main window itself? | 19:41 |
| mithro | well, on which panel does it make sense to have them? | 19:43 |
| greywhind | mithro: i'll figure it out, i guess. | 19:43 |
| mithro | is picture panel? the information panel? | 19:43 |
| greywhind | mithro: here's the current code for the remove - the large number of .Layout statements are just because i was trying to fix the text issue. | 19:43 |
| greywhind | http://rafb.net/p/Fb1s0V52.html (12 lines) | 19:43 |
| tpb | Title: Nopaste - No description (at rafb.net) | 19:44 |
| mithro | and what does next mean? - Does it mean next object in system, next object of this type, next object at this level | 19:44 |
| greywhind | mithro: right... or next player-owned object | 19:44 |
| mithro | yeah | 19:44 |
| greywhind | mithro: does that code look reasonable to you? | 19:45 |
| mithro | greywhind: btw, have you played stars! before? | 19:45 |
| greywhind | mithro: no - should I? | 19:46 |
| mithro | greywhind: it might be good to get your hands on it | 19:46 |
| mithro | http://mithro.dyndns.org/Screenshot.png | 19:46 |
| mithro | that is a screenshot | 19:46 |
| mithro | you can kind of see the legacy it has on tpclient-pywx :) | 19:46 |
| greywhind | mithro: hmm... looks fairly similar. | 19:46 |
| mithro | greywhind: once I have finished the starmap rewrite, I would like for you to work on adding new overlays to it | 19:48 |
| greywhind | mithro: what kind of overlays? | 19:49 |
| mithro | greywhind: well, that is why playing stars! is probably a good idea :) | 19:49 |
| greywhind | mithro: i see. is there a mac client available, or should i do it on linux? | 19:49 |
| mithro | greywhind: it runs under Wine on X86 fine | 19:50 |
| greywhind | mithro: hmm... i'll try it on the Mac wine build i have | 19:50 |
| mithro | you have an intel mac? | 19:50 |
| greywhind | mithro: yep | 19:50 |
| mithro | coolies, should work | 19:51 |
| mithro | it's really a win 3.11 program :P | 19:51 |
| greywhind | mithro: is this a game that you have to pay for? | 19:52 |
| mithro | it has a "demo" version | 19:52 |
| mithro | http://www.the-underdogs.info/game.php?gameid=3228 | 19:52 |
| tpb | Title: Home of the Underdogs - Entry: Stars! (at www.the-underdogs.info) | 19:53 |
| greywhind | thx | 19:53 |
| mithro | don't play it too much, it can get very addictive | 19:54 |
| greywhind | mithro: alright. my main experience w/ space turn-based strategy games was Master of Orion II | 19:54 |
| mithro | I never played the original MOO or MOO 2 | 19:55 |
| greywhind | mithro: actually, i got this name from MOO II | 19:55 |
| greywhind | it's a very good game, i think. | 19:55 |
| mithro | I just never had the time | 19:56 |
| mithro | I should play it eventually | 19:56 |
| greywhind | yeah, i know what you mean | 19:56 |
| greywhind | heh. when i first played, on a PowerPC Mac about 8-10 years ago, it took like 1 minute per turn after pressing the "Done" key to calculate the next one... on my G4 Cube, it took almost no time at all. | 19:57 |
| greywhind | mithro: did you take a look at that code? it's not much. | 19:58 |
| mithro | greywhind: yeah, it looked fine | 19:58 |
| greywhind | mithro: hmm... wonder why it's not removing correctly | 19:58 |
| jotham | http://hessian.caucho.com/ | 20:22 |
| tpb | Title: Hessian Binary Web Service Protocol (at hessian.caucho.com) | 20:22 |
| jotham | ^ interesting | 20:22 |
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| mithro | nash: how busy are you? incredibly or super incredibly? | 23:49 |
| jotham | did you check out that url mithro | 23:53 |
| mithro | jotham: yes, I wasn't quite sure what was interesting about it? :P | 23:53 |
| jotham | it's a damn site better than soap for rpc | 23:53 |
| mithro | jotham: that is not hard ;) | 23:57 |
| jotham | i didn't think that was being debated? | 23:57 |
| mithro | no, I think we both agree that SOAP sucks? | 23:58 |
| jotham | i think SOAP is ungood when you consider network traffic | 23:58 |
| mithro | you can solve a lot of that with gz | 23:59 |
| jotham | yep | 23:59 |
| jotham | that's what we do | 23:59 |
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