Tuesday, 2007-07-10

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llnz~seen xdotx04:39
tpbllnz: xdotx was last seen in #tp 1 day, 22 hours, 44 minutes, and 42 seconds ago: <xdotx> bed time04:39
* xdotx right here04:42
xdotxllnz: what's up?04:42
llnznot much, off to wellington tomorrow04:43
xdotxi have no idea where, or what that is04:45
xdotx:)04:45
llnzit is the capital of New Zealand04:46
* xdotx feels like an ignorant american ~~04:51
llnzhehe04:52
llnzhow are you going?04:53
xdotxalthough i like to think, being in seattle, i'm close enough to canada to only be considered partially american04:54
xdotxalright. i've got a huge, early morning math test in about 6 hours that i've been dreading/studying for for a couple days now04:54
llnzprogress report?04:55
xdotxbut the good news is after tomorrow i'm done with this crunch04:55
llnzcool04:55
xdotxi'll get a report in, as well as some more work tomorrow.. er later today for me... after math :)04:56
llnzno problem04:56
xdotxllnz: looked at the midterm survey?04:57
llnzyeah04:59
xdotxi submit that euclid is a witch05:13
xdotxor, was05:13
llnzhehehehe05:20
xdotx:P alright. need sleep before death-test05:27
xdotxsleep, death-test, TP codin'05:28
llnzyes, that's a good idea05:28
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JLPahoy all06:53
CIA-3jlp parsek * rc2c3276aaac1 /src/parsek.cpp: Adapted to changes in KAboutData06:58
CIA-3jlp parsek * r07f02a69c5be /src/mainwindow.cpp: Fixed Connect to Server icon06:58
CIA-3jlp parsek * r7daaa6d1924f / (13 files in 2 dirs): Upgraded the license to GPLv306:58
CIA-3jlp parsek * r0bb1570adbd1 /doc/index.docbook: The start of Parsek Handbook07:09
llnzhi JLP07:15
llnzcool07:16
llnzGPLv3?07:16
JLPyeah, anything wrong?07:19
llnznope07:19
llnzi haven't really picked up on what changes GPLv3 makes07:20
JLPi've been following the development of it quite regularly, there is a nice diff on Groklaw, let me find it07:21
JLPhttp://www.groklaw.net/articlebasic.php?story=2006011815584111507:21
tpb<http://ln-s.net/hOr> (at www.groklaw.net)07:21
JLPa bit old version but there were no big changes after it, you can always do your own diff with final versions07:24
llnzerr... i don't need an indepth diff, i need what does the GPLv3 mean, that the GPLv2 didn't (and vice-versa)07:41
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llnzlater all08:04
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CIA-3jlp parsek * r7d686374e02d /src/ (mainwindow.cpp mainwindow.h): Added Help menu08:44
CIA-3jlp parsek * red664033d6af /src/CMakeLists.txt: Removed kde4_automoc() - not needed anymore09:01
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niphreehi10:49
JLPniphree: ahoy11:18
niphreeJLP: hey :]11:19
JLPniphree: long time no see, how are you11:19
niphreeJLP: ok, maybe you want to test what I have done ?11:20
JLPniphree: sure11:20
niphreeJLP: http://tarl.org/~niphree/parsec/ -> more statistics...11:20
tpbTitle: Thousand Parsec : Metaserver Server Listing (at tarl.org)11:20
JLPniphree: graphs are all white, a known problem?11:24
niphreeJLP: only when there is no data for this day/month/year11:25
JLPniphree: so if there is data in table view it shouldn't be white?11:26
niphreeJLP: yes11:26
niphreeJLP: hmm...11:27
JLPniphree: I go here for example:11:28
JLPhttp://tarl.org/~niphree/parsec/stat.php?graph=1&agr=avg&opt=plys&month=7&year=2007&day=5&type=1&gid=011:28
tpb<http://ln-s.net/hSK> (at tarl.org)11:28
JLPa lot of numbers in the table, but when I switch to graph by clicking link below the image is all white11:28
JLPand if i click on a link again to switch to table view the table doesn't have any data aynmore11:29
niphreeJLP:  w8 - I'll change something11:29
niphreeJLP: it should be ok now11:31
JLPniphree: yup works fine now11:33
tpbdisconnected from worldforge: Ping sent at 2007-07-10T11:32:04 not replied to.11:34
niphreeJLP: but I think there could be also some problem with image file - I have only one image file in which I save graph - so when more then one person is browsing this, there could be a problem - I'll change it in the future :)11:35
niphreeand: when you choose month/year you will have different stats11:36
JLPniphree: yeah that will be a problem for sure :) also it looks like the data from table doesn't mach the one on the graph, but this could be the same problem, mabe we are looking at the data at the same time11:36
niphreeJLP: it could be - but I think I saw this before (next time I refresh it was ok .. :/) - I'll try to fix it :/11:38
niphreeJLP: I also have to add: legend/label/colors/ and I want to put all min/max/avg in one graph11:39
JLPniphree: cool, maybe it would also be nice if the background of the image was transparent and the area below graph line filled with color11:40
niphreeJLP: I could add image:  thousandParsec star background :)11:41
niphreeJLP: I don't know if graph can be transparent -11:42
JLPniphree: you mean directly into the graph image? if so i think that wouldn't be ok as it would make the graph image larger, and besides, the webpage itself already provides it so there is no need to duplicat work11:43
JLPniphree: anyways it is just a suggestion, check out if the stuff that creates graphs is capable of setting transparency/alpha level of colors, and if not, well we can always make it black :)11:44
niphreeJLP: ok :]11:45
niphreeJLP: I think I know why there is problem: when some value is higher then 10 it change it to 1 ... I just don't know why11:46
JLPniphree: there is always possibility that they have a bug, or that there is some trick idden somwhere, probably they can help clear this up11:48
JLPand maybe they even know if transparency is possible :)11:48
niphree:]11:49
JLPniphree: btw did you see the discussion about remaking/reorganising our site?12:10
niphreeJLP: I didn't see this discussion :/12:36
JLPniphree: here is the Wiki page, where you can edit and add your opinions and ides12:37
JLPhttp://www.thousandparsec.net/wiki/NewLayout12:37
tpbTitle: NewLayout - Thousand Parsec Wiki (at www.thousandparsec.net)12:37
JLPniphree: and here is the mailing lists thread about it - http://www.thousandparsec.net/tp/pipermail.php/tp-devel/2007-July/000436.html12:38
tpb<http://ln-s.net/hTW> (at www.thousandparsec.net)12:38
niphreeJLP: hmm - I really like current layout ;)12:41
JLPniphree: i see you might have new elections in Poland soon12:55
niphreeJLP: yeah - I know - and I'm very happy :D12:56
niphreeJLP: I'm very against current goverment :/12:57
JLPniphree: is it very bad? i've been hearing something about corruption12:58
niphreeJLP: not only this - but this is also a problem. I don't like when those idiots make whole world laght at us :/13:04
JLPniphree: well i mainly remember good things about Poland, I especially remember when they were very strongly against introduction of software patents into EU13:05
niphreeJLP: heh.. even I don't remember this ;) - we rememeber more bad things maybe :]13:07
JLPniphree: yeah it is closer to you, so I guess I you see more bad things, I can probably see more bad in Slovenia then anywhere else :))13:08
niphreeJLP: maybe ;) It's worst when you are inside - maybe it's same for all countries, when I move from here I'll check ;)13:13
CIA-3frodough tpruledev * rdee012ce11c2 /MTSec/persistence/ComponentBAK/ (13 files): Deleted backup files from MTSec persistence13:43
CIA-3frodough tpruledev * r67a4783f6d77 /src/transform_objects.py:13:43
CIA-3Added tranform script to convert persistence files13:43
CIA-3XML handling is being switched over to the effbot ElementTree toolkit13:43
CIA-3after some small amount of research on what would best serve my13:43
CIA-3needs. This file will convert existing project persistence files to the13:43
CIA-3new format - just in case anyone has been messing around with the RDE.13:43
CIA-3frodough tpruledev * r5a0994655410 /src/ (16 files in 3 dirs):13:43
CIA-3The added the elementtree library13:43
CIA-3It's small enough that I figure it's best just to distribute with the13:43
CIA-3code itself.13:43
CIA-3frodough tpruledev * ref559daf0f24 /src/transform_objects.py: Fixed an error condition in the transform script13:43
CIA-3frodough tpruledev * r6045874f5e05 /src/ (5 files in 2 dirs): XML codegen classes13:43
CIA-3frodough tpruledev * rf7cf277adaa1 /src/ (9 files in 4 dirs): (log message trimmed)13:44
CIA-3Put new XML parsing in place13:44
CIA-3ElementTree now serves as the basis of writing and parsing XML files. This13:44
CIA-3is much better than writing XML by hand, I would think, but a side-effect13:44
CIA-3is that the XML persistence files are no longer human readable. Oh well,13:44
CIA-3eh? The XML reading and writing has also been refactored into codegen,13:44
CIA-3in an attempt to further decouple internal representation and the various13:44
CIA-3frodough tpruledev * re426cf4a5ac6 /src/game_objects/ (Category.py Component.py Property.py): Removed some unnecessary functions13:59
CIA-3frodough tpruledev * rea991e45a5c8 /src/ (5 files in 2 dirs):13:59
CIA-3Refactored object deletion13:59
CIA-3Deletion, loading and saving are now all general methods of the GameObject13:59
CIA-3class, no longer specific to any given module. They can still be13:59
CIA-3overridden by the specific classes, but so far there is no need for that.13:59
CIA-3frodough tpruledev * r0f218aa1b384 /src/game_objects/ (Category.py Component.py ObjectUtilities.py Property.py): Cleanup of old XML stuff14:06
CIA-3frodough tpruledev * r0a52466424ee /src/gui/EditorFrame.py: Added keyboard mnemonic for deleting objects14:06
CIA-3frodough tpruledev * r82c7c248947c /src/gui/EditorFrame.py: Added dialog box on code generation completion or error14:06
CIA-3frodough tpruledev * rb5e372f75865 / (41 files in 5 dirs):14:07
CIA-3Updated XML Persistence Files for MTSec and Minisec14:07
CIA-3It would help if the XML files were in the correct format, eh? I forget14:07
CIA-3when I drill down in the dir structure sometimes.14:07
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JLPDystopicFro, niphree_: have you seen the survey on Google Summer of Code page?15:34
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DystopicFroJLP: aye, and I completed mine today as well, spent about 30-40 minutes giving Google some thoughtful answers in thanks for what they're doing (besides...I wanna get paid :P)15:48
JLPDystopicFro: cool, just checking so that it doesn't get forgotten :)15:49
CIA-3frodough tpruledev * r651b89d3c5b5 /src/ (6 files in 4 dirs): Added ConfigManager class15:49
CIA-3frodough tpruledev * re3e717877317 / (4 files in 4 dirs): Now save the last opened project and start with it15:49
DystopicFroThanks for looking out for us :)15:49
JLPDystopicFro: no problem, i've also almost forgottent about the midterm evaluations, but then I saw people talking about it on one one of the KDE channels15:50
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DystopicFroheh, yes, and there were quite a few changes as well when they moved away from code reviews for the midterm >.< lots of confusion there15:53
JLPyup, i guess they'll get it right in a few years15:56
CIA-3frodough tpruledev * r8c1766b102ee / (3 files in 2 dirs): Remember the last item that was opened16:01
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