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| mithro | hey JLP | 07:25 |
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| JLP | mithro: good morning | 11:52 |
| mithro | Happy New Year! | 13:47 |
| mithro | JLP: will you be around later? I would like your advice on some stuff | 13:47 |
| JLP | mithro: Happy New Year, 9 hours still left here :) | 13:55 |
| JLP | yes, i'll be here later to | 13:55 |
| mithro | JLP: ping? | 15:06 |
| JLP | mithro: pong | 15:06 |
| mithro | could you download the following http://xoomer.alice.it/infinity77/eng/PyAUI.html and tell me what you think? | 15:06 |
| tpb | <http://ln-s.net/H:4> (at xoomer.alice.it) | 15:07 |
| mithro | would tpclient-pywx benifit from using that type of interface? | 15:07 |
| mithro | btw how goes Parsek? | 15:08 |
| mithro | got any cool screenshots yet? | 15:09 |
| JLP | hm i don't know, screenshots of PyAUI look nice | 15:09 |
| mithro | download the code, it runs fine if you can run the tpclient-pywx | 15:11 |
| JLP | Parsek is going slowly, I thought I would have more time during holidays, but I mostly just visit people so little time gets left | 15:11 |
| JLP | I also have some translation work to do for KDE 3.5.6, which has to be done until 15th January | 15:12 |
| JLP | So I'm still at the point where I have read about the model/view programming in Qt and quickly checked out the examples | 15:13 |
| mithro | JLP: whats you native language? | 15:13 |
| mithro | I saw some commits about a message viewer? | 15:13 |
| JLP | But now I have to figure out how to create models and get data from server into models, and then how eo use the model and connect it to QGraphicsView to display the universe map | 15:14 |
| JLP | But before this I will also have to read about QGV | 15:14 |
| JLP | My native language is Slovenian | 15:15 |
| mithro | the LOC are climbing :P 309 | 15:16 |
| JLP | Yup I did try my first attempt creating a model for messages | 15:16 |
| JLP | Now I'm looking for a standard way in KDE4 to create widgets like the one in Amarok, where you have buttons/tabs along the borders of window and when you click on them they expand | 15:17 |
| JLP | but it looks like it was removed in KDE4 so I will have to fins something else, QDockWidget is the closes thing I guess | 15:17 |
| mithro | anyluck with the pyAUI demo? | 15:18 |
| JLP | So first thing I will do now is to read about QDockWidget and see how to put messages view for messages model into this | 15:18 |
| mithro | i have to admit i don't know much about MVP | 15:19 |
| JLP | Me neither, iz is the first time I'll be using it, so I have a lot of reading to do and probably a lot of trials and errors before it will get right | 15:20 |
| JLP | I'll try PyAUI now | 15:20 |
| mithro | i'm in a very much, do what works mode :P | 15:20 |
| mithro | btw did you see the Metaserver/Auto discovery stuff? | 15:22 |
| JLP | PyAUI demo looks OK, it would only be nice if the cursor changed to <-|-> when over a pane border | 15:27 |
| JLP | Yup I did see the commits about metaserver and stuff, but I didn't take a closer look | 15:29 |
| mithro | Do you think the client would benifit from a UI like the one in the PyAUI displays? | 15:29 |
| mithro | JLP: i'm going to roll a new release of the stable branch, I would appreciate testing | 15:30 |
| JLP | I think it would be usefull, I think that QDockWidget, which I'm planing to use, looks very much the same | 15:31 |
| JLP | http://doc.trolltech.com/4.0/qdockwidget.html | 15:31 |
| tpb | Title: Qt 4.0: QDockWidget Class Reference (at doc.trolltech.com) | 15:31 |
| JLP | http://doc.trolltech.com/4.2/qdockwidget.html | 15:31 |
| tpb | Title: Qt 4.2: QDockWidget Class Reference (at doc.trolltech.com) | 15:31 |
| JLP | screenshot - http://doc.trolltech.com/4.2/mainwindows-dockwidgets.html | 15:33 |
| tpb | <http://ln-s.net/H:7> (at doc.trolltech.com) | 15:33 |
| JLP | And off course, I'll be glad to help testing | 15:33 |
| mithro | yeah, very similar | 15:34 |
| mithro | JLP: btw do you have a windows computer? | 15:46 |
| JLP | nope, it's quite some time since we don't use windows in our family, all Linux users here | 15:47 |
| mithro | JLP: thats cool :P | 15:48 |
| JLP | father was resisitng for the longest, but ever since he discovered how cool amarok and digikam are he also didn't look back | 15:50 |
| JLP | and familiy loves it because so much apps in Linux are translated into Slovenian language | 15:50 |
| mithro | ahh | 15:55 |
| JLP | mithro: i think i might have one problem with pywx xlient | 16:02 |
| mithro | o? | 16:03 |
| JLP | if i'm not wrong i've seen some commits about automatic media/pictures download | 16:03 |
| mithro | dev or stable? | 16:03 |
| JLP | stable | 16:03 |
| JLP | but when i click on a planet I always just get the "? No Image Found" message | 16:04 |
| mithro | in dev do you get an image? | 16:04 |
| JLP | didn't try dev yet | 16:04 |
| mithro | (make sure you have the latest of everything) | 16:04 |
| mithro | JLP: you use a Slovian LOCALE? | 16:05 |
| JLP | i'l get dev and try taht | 16:05 |
| JLP | yup sl_SI or just sl | 16:05 |
| mithro | yeah, thats most probably the problem which is fixed in dev | 16:06 |
| mithro | i'll back-port it before releasing | 16:06 |
| JLP | brb | 16:07 |
| mithro | JLP: can you give that a try? | 16:11 |
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| mithro | :/ | 18:00 |
| mithro | ~help | 18:04 |
| tpb | mithro: (help [<plugin>] [<command>]) -- This command gives a useful description of what <command> does. <plugin> is only necessary if the command is in more than one plugin. | 18:04 |
| mithro | ~help | 18:04 |
| tpb | mithro: (help [<plugin>] [<command>]) -- This command gives a useful description of what <command> does. <plugin> is only necessary if the command is in more than one plugin. | 18:04 |
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| JLP | mithro: just updated from darcs and now images get shown | 18:21 |
| mithro | Can you test the packages on the web? | 18:22 |
| JLP | mithro: will do right away | 18:25 |
| mithro | thanks for the help | 18:26 |
| mithro | I'll then need to announce the release | 18:26 |
| mithro | once I have these binaries done | 18:26 |
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| JLP | mithro: downloaded 0.2.1 from TP webpage and it seams to be working just fine | 18:32 |
| mithro | the inplace version? | 18:34 |
| JLP | yup | 18:36 |
| mithro | JLP: cool | 18:36 |
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| mithro | hey Demitar | 19:10 |
| tpb | <Demitar@worldforge> Hello there/ | 19:11 |
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| mithro | Demitar: the offical TP channel is now on freenode :P | 19:54 |
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| Demitar | There we go. :) | 19:55 |
| mithro | yay! | 19:58 |
| mithro | we moved because of the problems with irc.worldforge.org and such | 19:58 |
| mithro | we often get people in this channel wanting help with turbo pascal :P | 19:58 |
| Demitar | How about #thousandparsec ? | 19:59 |
| Demitar | (I've also pondered that with regards to binary naming. :) | 19:59 |
| * Demitar wouldn't give a game a 2 char acronym, polluting the global namespace. :) | 20:00 | |
| mithro | Demitar: when i say often, I mean twice in 3 years :P | 20:01 |
| JLP | and it is nothing wrong if someone comes here by accident | 20:02 |
| JLP | maybe he can become interested into TP after we explain him what this is all about :) | 20:03 |
| mithro | if they use Turbo Pascal they are already a glutten for punshiment :P | 20:03 |
| Demitar | Pascal isn't all that bad. :) | 20:03 |
| * mithro writes the announcement | 20:06 | |
| JLP | mithro: tell me when it is ready, so I copy it to Digg.com and reddit | 20:24 |
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| mithro | I wonder why tpb didn't announce the news | 21:11 |
| mithro | 30 minutes and this should be uploaded | 21:19 |
| mithro | damn mac 35Mb binaries :/ | 21:19 |
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| tpb | New news from http://www.thousandparsec.net/tp/rss.php: Happy New Year! || IRC Servers changed | 21:25 |
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| mithro | JLP: okay everything pushed now | 22:03 |
| JLP | ok will start submitting the news to digg.com | 22:05 |
| JLP | mithro: is this ok? | 22:11 |
| JLP | Thousand Parsec is a framework for turn-based space empire building games similar to Stars! and Galactic Civilizations. The new stable version brings these new features: client can now be started with a URL and it will fill in the connect box; client registers for Thousand Parsec URLs (Windows and GNOME). There are also many bug fixes. | 22:11 |
| mithro | JLP: sure! | 22:12 |
| mithro | maybe list a few major bug fixes? | 22:12 |
| mithro | the locale and flickering ones are the most important | 22:12 |
| JLP | quite hard, the number of chars is limited | 22:13 |
| JLP | mithro, Demitar: let's get digging | 22:14 |
| JLP | http://digg.com/gaming_news/Thousand_Parsec_wxPython_Client_0_2_1_released | 22:14 |
| tpb | <http://ln-s.net/H:U> (at digg.com) | 22:14 |
| JLP | also submitted to reddit.com: | 22:24 |
| JLP | http://reddit.com/new | 22:24 |
| tpb | Title: reddit.com: newest submissions (at reddit.com) | 22:24 |
| tpb | New news from http://www.thousandparsec.net/tp/rss.php: tpclient-pywx 0.2.1 released! | 22:25 |
| mithro | JLP: maybe add a service link? | 22:27 |
| mithro | JLP: anyway to make the link more successful? | 22:28 |
| JLP | mithro: you mean the link to the digg and reddit service directly to the news article on tp.net? | 22:30 |
| mithro | JLP: you know the little icons which appear in the RSS feed? | 22:31 |
| mithro | add a reddit to them? | 22:31 |
| JLP | yeah there should be one for reddit, let me check my blog which has planty of thse icons :) | 22:31 |
| mithro | JLP: feel free to add lots of those icons :P | 22:32 |
| JLP | icon - http://jlp.holodeck1.com/blog/wp-content/plugins/blogbling/images/reddit.png | 22:32 |
| tpb | <http://ln-s.net/H:Y> (at jlp.holodeck1.com) | 22:32 |
| JLP | url looks like this - http://reddit.com/submit?url=http%3A%2F%2Fjlp.holodeck1.com%2Fblog%2F2006%2F12%2F29%2Fwhats-up-2007-365-days-of-skywatching%2F&title=What%27s+Up+2007+-+365+Days+of+Skywatching | 22:33 |
| tpb | <http://ln-s.net/H:Z> (at reddit.com) | 22:33 |
| mithro | JLP: the web repository exists for a reason :P | 22:37 |
| JLP | do i have permissions to submit into it? | 22:38 |
| JLP | i thought that I only have permissions to write into parsek directory | 22:39 |
| mithro | JLP: technically yes, but if your arn't sure you can always use "darcs send" to create a patch file we can apply | 22:39 |
| mithro | (it will even look like you did the patch :) | 22:39 |
| JLP | ok will do it then | 22:40 |
| JLP | damn this darcs pull made darcs use A LOT of memory | 22:53 |
| Demitar | Sounds like the exponential patch algebra kicking in. :) | 22:54 |
| JLP | yay 3 minutes to New Year here in Slovenia | 22:56 |
| JLP | and to new national currency, the mighty Euro | 22:57 |
| mithro | JLP: ahh, currently trying to fix the memory problem | 23:03 |
| mithro | running "darcs optimize --reorder" | 23:03 |
| JLP | oh damn, applying the patches was even worse, it also ate a�� my swap | 23:03 |
| * mithro ponders if he ended up going to slovenia | 23:04 | |
| mithro | 14026 root 18 0 578m 173m 7888 D 1.0 73.8 0:42.67 darcs.real | 23:04 |
| mithro | :/ | 23:04 |
| mithro | darcs really doesn't like binary files :/ | 23:07 |
| mithro | Demitar: how does mecurial handle binaries? | 23:09 |
| mithro | JLP: btw any work on the FAQ would be greatly appreciated too :P | 23:12 |
| JLP | mithro: when I tried to push changes I got this error: | 23:18 |
| JLP | darcs: Pushing to http URLs is not supported. | 23:19 |
| JLP | You may be able to hack this to work using DARCS_APPLY_HTTP | 23:19 |
| mithro | push to the jlp@ version | 23:19 |
| mithro | IE | 23:19 |
| mithro | darcs push [email protected]:/var/lib/darcs/repos/web | 23:20 |
| JLP | it worked | 23:26 |
| mithro | yay! | 23:27 |
| mithro | well I should have been in bed 4 hours ago | 23:28 |
| mithro | it's almost 10am here :/ | 23:28 |
| mithro | I'll do the freshmeat release tommorrow | 23:29 |
| mithro | you could submit to HappyPengiun and other news sites if you want, but leave a log of where you do so I don't double up | 23:30 |
| JLP | ok will do | 23:30 |
| mithro | s/4/8/ :P | 23:32 |
| mithro | gnight! | 23:34 |
| JLP | mithro: good night | 23:34 |
| Demitar | mithro: http://www.selenic.com/mercurial/wiki/index.cgi/BinaryFiles | 23:41 |
| tpb | Title: BinaryFiles - Mercurial (at www.selenic.com) | 23:41 |
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