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| brunowolff | carlfk: I'm interested in looking at the quick start documentation, though I won't have my capture device for a while yet. I won't have a real camera for playing around initially, though I might get a chance to try on a talk later with one. | 19:31 |
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| CarlFK | brunowolff: hey - cool - just a sec while I see if a commit had eveything in it or not... | 19:32 |
| brunowolff | Thanks. | 19:32 |
| CarlFK | I was fumbeling with git add --patch.. and then again... and maybe I didn't comit that.. kinda new with --patch | 19:32 |
| CarlFK | grumble.. and my docs cr's aren't cr-ing... | 19:37 |
| CarlFK | https://salsa.debian.org/carlfk-guest/ansible/blob/usb-reorg1/docs/usb.rst | 19:37 |
| tpb | Title: docs/usb.rst · usb-reorg1 · Carl Karsten / ansible · GitLab (at salsa.debian.org) | 19:37 |
| CarlFK | run the follwing: | 19:37 |
| CarlFK | should be 4 lines... | 19:37 |
| CarlFK | ah, I need :: | 19:38 |
| CarlFK | ok - 'done' | 19:41 |
| CarlFK | im guessing this isn't exactly what you are looking for, but it is the easiest way to get something working | 19:42 |
| CarlFK | you can assemble everything on your personal box, but thats harder | 19:43 |
| CarlFK | I have used my personal box for production, but that often results in "oh, hang on.. I need to fix something" | 19:43 |
| CarlFK | and then a room of 10 to 1000 people are waiting on you | 19:44 |
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| CarlFK | hopefully you have a spare box you can install on today - i3 cpu is enough - core 2 deu .. .kinda. it will flicker | 19:45 |
| brunowolff | I looked at it a bit. I think it will help some. | 19:46 |
| CarlFK | can you try it today? | 19:46 |
| brunowolff | I don't have a spare box right now. | 19:46 |
| CarlFK | rats | 19:46 |
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| brunowolff | I've preordered a power 9 (blackbird) but won't have it for probably a month or two. | 19:47 |
| CarlFK | what's that? | 19:47 |
| brunowolff | Power 9 is an ISA. Blackbird is a low (relatively) cost version with an open motherboard design. It is PPCLE. Fedora has builds for and I think Debian does as well. | 19:49 |
| brunowolff | I'm getting it because my current server is very old and I've run out of lots of spare parts and I want to support owner controllable computing. | 19:50 |
| brunowolff | Sort of like I'm getting the netv2 capture card because it is tied in with a lawsuit to overturn section 1201 of the dmca on first amendment grounds. | 19:51 |
| CarlFK | neat | 19:52 |
| CarlFK | i'm surprised you don't have spare boxes ;) | 19:53 |
| brunowolff | I have some interest in anisible as Fedora uses it. Though at work we (not me, but another team) use puppet. | 19:54 |
| brunowolff | I used to have spare boxes, but the server is about 15 years old, I think I've had it for about 10. I'm on my last video card, my last reasonably sized PATA disk. | 19:55 |
| brunowolff | One motherboard is dead. Parts of the current motherboard don't work. | 19:56 |
| CarlFK | lol | 19:56 |
| CarlFK | https://github.com/CarlFK/voctomix-outcasts#getting-started--demo | 19:56 |
| tpb | Title: GitHub - CarlFK/voctomix-outcasts: Support clients for Voctomix (at github.com) | 19:56 |
| CarlFK | it's been a while since I tried that, but it might get you something | 19:57 |
| brunowolff | Buying parts for it is crazy as they are very expensive for what you get. | 19:57 |
| CarlFK | what distro do you like? | 19:58 |
| brunowolff | I use Fedora rawhide for pretty much all of my normal computers. I use openwrt for routers. | 20:00 |
| CarlFK | everything is pretty cross platform, even mac or windows should be possible | 20:02 |
| CarlFK | voctomix is python/gstreamer | 20:02 |
| brunowolff | The voctomix test stuff looks useful. I did see a little bit about trying that somewhere. Having something more concrete will help. | 20:03 |
| CarlFK | veyepar is django and https://github.com/mltframework/mlt | 20:03 |
| tpb | Title: GitHub - mltframework/mlt: MLT Multimedia Framework (at github.com) | 20:03 |
| CarlFK | for streaming we were using flumotion, but that is still gstreamer 0.10 which is no longer supported and who knows what it would take to install, so *shurg* youtube is super easy and it works. | 20:05 |
| CarlFK | debconf-video and fosdem likely have a foss streaming solution | 20:06 |
| brunowolff | I don't think gstreamer 0.10 stuff is available any more in Fedora. | 20:08 |
| CarlFK | the flumotion streaming server was super cool, but even when it was supported it was .. needed lots of attention | 20:09 |
| brunowolff | debconf does something as I skimmed through their stuff last night, but I don't remember what. | 20:09 |
| CarlFK | it should be in the ansible stuff, at least the process that connects vocto to the streaming system | 20:10 |
| brunowolff | I saw debconf does use hdmi2usb for capture, though the netv2 is a bit different and I think it might not be supported until after units are available. | 20:13 |
| CarlFK | to get a head start on netv2 hacking of any kind, do the first 1/2 of https://github.com/timvideos/litex-buildenv/wiki/HowTo-LCA2018-FPGA-Miniconf | 20:13 |
| tpb | Title: HowTo LCA2018 FPGA Miniconf · timvideos/litex-buildenv Wiki · GitHub (at github.com) | 20:13 |
| brunowolff | Backers should start getting theirs soon, so the hdmi2usb develpers will probably have theirs soon. Mine might be a few months away. | 20:14 |
| CarlFK | have you done any work with FPGAs? | 20:15 |
| brunowolff | Not yet. That is something I'm interested in though, I even got a 100T instead of a 35T in case I wanted to try to do more with it. | 20:19 |
| brunowolff | I was disappointed to hear that being able to use a completely open tool chain for hdmi2usb is probably a year away. | 20:20 |
| brunowolff | I'll probably need to use my work machine for building stuff as it looks like the vivado tool set is x86_64 only, (Though ppc isn't mentioned either way in the instructions.) | 20:22 |
| brunowolff | My home server is only x86_32 and while my laptops are x86_64, they're not powerful enough according to the specs. | 20:23 |
| CarlFK | that spec is if you were going to be in that workshop | 20:24 |
| CarlFK | if you are on your own, it can take all day to build and no one will care | 20:25 |
| brunowolff | Oh, then I might be able to use a laptop. | 20:27 |
| CarlFK | https://salsa.debian.org/carlfk-guest/ansible/blob/usb-reorg1/docs/usb.rst "About Ubuntu" I use that for building a box that is 'easy' to install all the stuff needed for https://github.com/timvideos/litex-buildenv/wiki/HowTo-LCA2018-FPGA-Miniconf | 20:35 |
| tpb | Title: docs/usb.rst · usb-reorg1 · Carl Karsten / ansible · GitLab (at salsa.debian.org) | 20:35 |
| brunowolff | It looks like there might be something new for version 2018.3 (LCA used 2018.2). They have a smaller lab edition. No PPC version though. | 20:35 |
| brunowolff | Playing with the build tools early seems like a good thing for me to be doing. There is a fair amount to do there before I have hardware. | 20:40 |
| brunowolff | Was the 2018 fpga miniconf an official part of the conference? The openhardware miniconf looks different and I didn't see an fpga miniconf listed for 2018 (nor 2019)? | 20:54 |
| brunowolff | I found it. It appears that Tim runs a hackfest before LCA and it was presumably part of that. | 21:02 |
| brunowolff | Thanks for the pointers. I have stuff to play with now and can come back later after I have digested some of it. | 21:09 |
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