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| shorne | mithro: yes, Arty, but I figured it its not available I can try to make way starting with the opsis | 11:39 |
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| shorne | Yes, I found the uart config in there 'litex ... soc_core.py' | 11:39 |
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| mithro | shorne: if you do manage to get Linux going, I will give you an Opsis board at LCA so that everyone has the same setups | 14:11 |
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| samsagaz_ | guys, exist some way to get a discount to purchase some HDMI2USB hardware? we are in Argentina and looking an better hardware to record our pycon and python events (django girls, pyday, pycamps...) | 16:03 |
| samsagaz_ | we was getting bad quality to record the conferences, and looking to improve that ASAP! | 16:04 |
| CarlFK | samsagaz_: I can kinda answer: there isn' | 16:04 |
| CarlFK | er... | 16:04 |
| CarlFK | samsagaz_: I can kinda answer: there isn't much that we/anyone can do about the cost, but we can do things about helping you get the money/equipment | 16:05 |
| samsagaz_ | Hi CarlFK | 16:05 |
| samsagaz_ | thanks for the answer, and sorry for my english.. :/ | 16:06 |
| CarlFK | your english is fine - better than some native speakers ;) | 16:07 |
| CarlFK | do you know anyone on the PSF board? | 16:08 |
| samsagaz_ | i will read this week all about timvideos and hardware, software and cost of the equipment. I already asked like 1 year ago about the same... every time that one big python conference start we have the same problems, we need to solve this ... we are wasting time and getting video quality problems. | 16:08 |
| samsagaz_ | CarlFK, sure, im just a member of python argentina, i dont have contacts in PSF, but our members have a lot of contacts | 16:08 |
| samsagaz_ | they help us in every event | 16:09 |
| samsagaz_ | with the international speakers and different support. | 16:09 |
| samsagaz_ | and some of our members are python ambassador in latin america | 16:11 |
| samsagaz_ | so we are in contact with the PSF, but not myself, i just recorded some conferences but last one was really crap because used small home cameras and the audio was very very bad, all the work that take to record and edit the videos and get very bad quality in audio for example | 16:12 |
| samsagaz_ | we will need to solve that for next confs :) | 16:12 |
| samsagaz_ | apart from the PSF there is another method to get equipped with the hardware? i will talk with the board of Python Argentina this friday, need to collect as much info as possible. | 16:19 |
| samsagaz_ | I will create a list of different options to see which is the best for future events... | 16:21 |
| CarlFK | samsagaz_: https://www.python.org/psf/grants/ | 17:06 |
| tpb | Title: PSF Grants Program | Python Software Foundation (at www.python.org) | 17:06 |
| CarlFK[m] | put together a plan for: how purchasing some equipment will result in recoding 5, 10, 20 events over the next 2 years | 17:08 |
| CarlFK[m] | don't say "we need it for this next 1 event" | 17:09 |
| samsagaz_ | sure, thanks for your support. will talk with the board members of Argentina :) | 17:12 |
| CarlFK[m] | 5, 10, 20 events - 10-20 talks each = 50 - 400 videos. $500 per video is $25000 | 17:12 |
| CarlFK[m] | so don't be afraid to ask for 5 - 10k | 17:12 |
| CarlFK[m] | warning: managing inventory is a huge pain. | 17:13 |
| CarlFK[m] | hopefully you are going to be the one that has possession of it and takes it to events | 17:14 |
| CarlFK[m] | sending equipment to an event ... kinda never works out well. | 17:15 |
| CarlFK[m] | im not sure it has ever worked. you need at least 1 person who is familiar with it and made mistakes before | 17:15 |
| samsagaz_ | What about the software? this are coded in C and have python scripts/gui to use it? | 17:17 |
| CarlFK | https://github.com/CarlFK/voctomix-outcasts/#getting-started--demo | 17:18 |
| tpb | Title: GitHub - CarlFK/voctomix-outcasts (at github.com) | 17:18 |
| CarlFK | start there - "You should see the gui with 2 bouncing ball test feeds." | 17:19 |
| samsagaz_ | thanks CarlFK | 17:19 |
| CarlFK | that is pretty solid | 17:20 |
| CarlFK | https://github.com/CarlFK/video-stack-deploy | 17:20 |
| tpb | Title: GitHub - CarlFK/video-stack-deploy: fork of DebConf Video Team ansible repo (at github.com) | 17:20 |
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| CarlFK[m] | samsagaz: don't try to save pennies on the equipment. I made that mistake years ago, used $250 cameras that only got used once. the $1200 cameras got used 10 times or more and everyone was happier (me, vollees helping, presenters seeing pro stuff, viewers seeing nicer videos) | 18:05 |
| samsagaz_ | yes i understand, | 18:33 |
| samsagaz_ | which cameras recommend? | 18:33 |
| CarlFK[m] | xfxf and tumbleweed will have better answers - the $1200 were SD ones I got 5 years ago, which are now ... legacy ;) | 18:52 |
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| tumbleweed | we bought a pile of Sony PXW-X70 for Debian, earlier this year | 21:12 |
| CarlFK | it is *very* valuable to use the same thing as the rest of us. except we don't all buy at the same time, so what makes sense changes ... | 21:18 |
| CarlFK | ccc recommended a JVC, I got 2, xfxf used one for a bit and found something much better | 21:18 |
| CarlFK | xfxf: wake up!!! | 21:18 |
| CarlFK | I would likely go with which ever is smaller | 21:19 |
| tumbleweed | we played with a couple of cameras, to make the decision https://lists.debconf.org/lurker/message/20170626.225124.b45e8805.en.html | 21:28 |
| tpb | Title: [Debconf-video] Report from last week-end's single-user single-day DebConf Video sprint (at lists.debconf.org) | 21:28 |
| tumbleweed | and http://meetbot.debian.net/debconf-video/2017/debconf-video.2017-06-28-17.00.log.html#l-27 | 21:29 |
| tpb | Title: #debconf-video log (at meetbot.debian.net) | 21:29 |
| samsagaz_ | thanks guys | 21:35 |
| samsagaz_ | wow 2000USD :/ here in argentina cost like 4200USD :/ | 21:36 |
| samsagaz_ | we need 4 cameras for the confs | 21:36 |
| samsagaz_ | will be hard to purchase that kind of camera | 21:36 |
| samsagaz_ | hehe | 21:36 |
| tumbleweed | yeah, those weren't cheap | 21:37 |
| tumbleweed | you can get away with amazingly cheap cameras with HDMI capture | 21:38 |
| tumbleweed | (e.g. CarlFK's $10 camera) | 21:38 |
| samsagaz_ | i found in argentina 3600USD each one | 21:41 |
| CarlFK | oh yeah, I remember thinking the DC cams were pretty expensive | 21:56 |
| CarlFK | and yes, I found a used camera on e-bay for $9.98 + $5 shipping. | 21:57 |
| CarlFK | which worked good enough | 21:59 |
| xfxf | i use canon xc20 and xc30's | 22:05 |
| xfxf | which are compact and nice | 22:05 |
| xfxf | although i'm hitting use cases now which probably mean i'm gonna have to look at buying some broadcast grade cameras | 22:05 |
| xfxf | bye bye money, i didn't like you anyway apparently | 22:05 |
| CarlFK | what's that? | 22:09 |
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| xfxf | CarlFK: bigger cameras with lenses designed for large rooms | 22:59 |
| xfxf | the prosumer cams don't cut it | 22:59 |
| CarlFK | hope you are getting pro pay ;) | 23:00 |
| tumbleweed | xfxf: those sonys we have are suprisingly good in low light | 23:01 |
| tumbleweed | I guess CCDs have improved a lot in the last few years. They're smaller than our older cameras, and seem better in low light | 23:03 |
| xfxf | ack, modern sensors are surprisingly good | 23:08 |
| xfxf | this is less about light though, more about rooms where you need long throw | 23:08 |
| xfxf | primarily keynote venues | 23:08 |
| xfxf | think LCA this year, and the fact we ended up getting to use a broadcast camera anyway | 23:09 |
| tumbleweed | yeah | 23:09 |
| xfxf | prosumers look garbage once you're at max zoom | 23:09 |
| tumbleweed | this is true | 23:09 |
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