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| xfxf | tumbleweed: i find venue av people repeatedly become surprised, common comments like "huh, this never works as well as this, what are these things!?" | 00:23 |
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| xfxf | in reality a usual video matrix unit with the EDID locked down does the same, but they're always grossly misconfigured with other crap between it and the presenter laptop | 00:24 |
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| mithro | xfxf / jea: You should have gotten an email about https://docs.google.com/document/d/1YJwY6aMNmaL5TbOYMfX7qufbw5bluylrX7TS_Au2lU0/edit?ts=598a687e#heading=h.5gac43fjp1dn | 02:18 |
| tpb | Title: Notes on running Xilinx ISE on Mac OS X under Wine - Google Docs (at docs.google.com) | 02:18 |
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| Kamilion | was great to see the pycon.au videos appear so quickly, con hadn't even ended yet and I was able to watch some of the ESP32 IOT content from friday. Thanks to everyone who made that happen so quick. | 02:35 |
| mithro | Kamilion: Your very welcome, xfxf did a great job in organising that | 02:45 |
| Kamilion | ... wait | 02:51 |
| Kamilion | LOL | 02:52 |
| Kamilion | I just detached from #tomu to join here; I didn't realize | 02:52 |
| Kamilion | Thanks for Tomu as well! | 02:52 |
| mithro | Kamilion: I have too many projects :-P | 03:21 |
| Kamilion | know the feeling. | 03:22 |
| CarlFK[m] | mithro (IRC): were is your ccc vid that could have been titled "software guy rants about hardware" ? | 03:22 |
| mithro | CarlFK[m]: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yqYBcZzMPGQ | 03:23 |
| CarlFK[m] | Kamilion (IRC): ^^^ | 03:23 |
| Kamilion | I have that downloaded in fact | 03:24 |
| Kamilion | along with recon2016 | 03:24 |
| Kamilion | yep, definitely remember watching this somewhere in january. | 03:24 |
| Kamilion | and chuckling along with your confusion over EDID | 03:25 |
| Kamilion | that really trips people out to know there's a little ROM in your monitor that's powered over the video cable | 03:26 |
| Kamilion | Feel free to poke me if you ever end up needing to hear history of how a lot of those ended up the way they did | 03:27 |
| * Kamilion am hardware nerd | 03:27 | |
| Kamilion | and TTY annoys the heck out of me | 03:28 |
| Kamilion | http://foo.wyrd.name/en:bearlibterminal:design I need spend some time figuring out how to get bearlibterminal commands streamed over a serial port instead of dealing with 70s VT & Wyse terminal escapes | 03:30 |
| tpb | Title: en:bearlibterminal:design [divergence] (at foo.wyrd.name) | 03:30 |
| Kamilion | then things like libcaca and aalib would be truly obsoleted | 03:30 |
| Kamilion | and relegated to artistic uses. | 03:30 |
| Kamilion | https://github.com/saitoha/PySixel Sixels still exist; but gah! That's like base64 encoding images before serving them as static files | 03:31 |
| tpb | Title: GitHub - saitoha/PySixel: View full-pixel color graphics on SIXEL-supported terminals(xterm/mlterm/DECterm/Reflection/kermit/RLogin/tanasinn/yaft) (at github.com) | 03:31 |
| * Kamilion digresses | 03:32 | |
| xfxf | mithro: that thumbnail is great | 03:35 |
| mithro | Kamilion: My talk at PyCon AU would definately interest you it sounds like | 03:35 |
| xfxf | mithro: only if those talks were recorded :P | 03:36 |
| Kamilion | I'll catch it when I get to it; I'm still making my way through | 03:36 |
| vys_ | xfxf: oh? | 03:36 |
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| vys | were there talks which might not have been recorded? | 03:36 |
| xfxf | vys: only tim's, to mess with him | 03:36 |
| Kamilion | I've watched ... one or two of the ESP32 talks, and was meaning to go back and watch some more this weekend. | 03:36 |
| vys | Ah | 03:37 |
| Kamilion | but CarlFK prompted me to stop by and say [19:35:29] <Kamilion> was great to see the pycon.au videos appear so quickly, con hadn't even ended yet and I was able to watch some of the ESP32 IOT content from friday. Thanks to everyone who made that happen so quick. | 03:37 |
| * Kamilion points at xfxf | 03:38 | |
| Kamilion | mithro indicates this was you. Thankee. | 03:38 |
| xfxf | Kamilion: no worries! some of the av core team regulars hang in here too, wouldn't have happened without their help | 03:38 |
| Kamilion | also, some of the others from #esp32 relay their thanks as well. | 03:38 |
| xfxf | Kamilion: i'm just the guy that waves his arms around and points at people to do things :P | 03:38 |
| mithro | Kamilion: were in the world are you located? | 03:39 |
| Kamilion | Silicon valley. | 03:39 |
| Kamilion | and havn't left it in many years | 03:39 |
| mithro | Kamilion: My PyCon AU talk - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zdLiI-XLTcI | 03:40 |
| mithro | Kamilion: I visit Mountain View about once a year | 03:40 |
| Kamilion | ah, great. | 03:40 |
| Kamilion | I'm in campbell. Used to be up in mountain view / moffett field. | 03:40 |
| Kamilion | https://www.m-cubed.com/ <-- I work here. | 03:41 |
| tpb | Title: M-Cubed Global (at www.m-cubed.com) | 03:41 |
| xfxf | i was there two months ago or so | 03:41 |
| xfxf | although it was pretty much a drive through to raid a few of the Fry's | 03:41 |
| xfxf | (visited SF after pycon) | 03:41 |
| Kamilion | ah, might wanna raid us next time you're in the area then. | 03:43 |
| Kamilion | https://www.ebay.com/sch/mcubedglobal/m.html | 03:43 |
| tpb | Title: mcubedglobal | eBay (at www.ebay.com) | 03:43 |
| Kamilion | https://goo.gl/photos/NE9gqWuRFV8aRtn47 | 03:43 |
| xfxf | neat | 03:43 |
| xfxf | that said, hard to take a 2RU server back on me with a plane :P | 03:44 |
| xfxf | i collect 70-90's era gear tho | 03:44 |
| Kamilion | got some good deals on cableless 2U servers (SAS backplane direct attaches to the ODM motherboard) | 03:44 |
| Kamilion | oh, we can ship *those*, lol | 03:44 |
| Kamilion | but we have a lot of stuff here at the warehouse that we don't list on ebay | 03:44 |
| mithro | Kamilion: I have no idea from your website what your guys do... :-P | 03:44 |
| Kamilion | you know WEEE? | 03:44 |
| Kamilion | european electronic waste disposal regulations? | 03:45 |
| mithro | Nope! | 03:45 |
| Kamilion | pretty much says that our ODM/OEM customer's equipment has to come back to 'murica to be scrapped. | 03:45 |
| * mithro is in Australia | 03:45 | |
| Kamilion | "not in my european backyard" | 03:45 |
| Kamilion | so offlease and take-back programs | 03:46 |
| Kamilion | they end up here, we carve them up | 03:46 |
| Kamilion | anything that doesn't have our client's logo silkscreened on it, we're free to resell. | 03:46 |
| Kamilion | Intel/AMD CPUs, Ram sticks, any harddisk that isn't special-order and has vendor's name/logo on the label, ODM motherboards from Tyan and Supermicro, ODM chassis... | 03:47 |
| Kamilion | if it's got their name on it, we shred it. | 03:48 |
| Kamilion | or use it inhouse until it dies then shred it. :3 | 03:48 |
| Kamilion | we also deal with all the compliance paperwork and certificates of destruction, ETC | 03:49 |
| Kamilion | https://www.m-cubed.com/static/images/lifecycle_globe.jpg Here it is in a nutshell image. | 03:49 |
| xfxf | so you kill infrastructure :P | 03:49 |
| Kamilion | and some of it's quite insidiously secured, too! | 03:49 |
| Kamilion | custom firmwares, secured bootloaders, TPM modules and partial disk encryption... | 03:50 |
| Kamilion | and I get to be the guy that figured out how to break all that and get, say, supermicro's firmware back on it. | 03:50 |
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| Kamilion | comes down to finding a physical exploit that'll let me boot freedos or the uefi capsule firmware updater. | 03:51 |
| Kamilion | and/or getting really dirty and busting out a raspberry pi or odroid and hooking the flash chip up to the SPI bus and using flashrom to shove a clean image on it | 03:52 |
| mithro | Off to catch a plane! BBLR | 03:52 |
| Kamilion | or any of the other nasty tricks I've learned from defcon, CCC, blackhat, pycon, recon, and every other conference that has VIDEO RECORDS :D | 03:53 |
| Kamilion | which is what y'all do. So thanks. | 03:53 |
| Kamilion | You make me more useful. | 03:53 |
| Kamilion | the last computer conference I went to was either a CES/SIGGRAPH sometime in the 80s, while the atari ST was the hot stuff at the conference. | 03:55 |
| CarlFK[m] | mithro (IRC): safe flight | 03:55 |
| CarlFK[m] | https://youtu.be/By9foc1iJ3Q Real-time programming with BeagleBone PRUs from 2014 - 19k views (and someone just left a comment) | 03:56 |
| Kamilion | still need to get me a logic cape for my black | 03:57 |
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| mithro | Kamilion: got any of these you want to send me? :-P https://www.amazon.com/dp/B004IY1N32/_encoding=UTF8?coliid=I1FZMKEOWCESK2&colid=1TQPJL2JP5LZE | 05:04 |
| Kamilion | Negative, the only norco chassis we get isn't jbod | 05:05 |
| Kamilion | think it's got an X8DTsomething in it | 05:05 |
| Kamilion | we've got an HP SAS tray we've been trying to get rid of though | 05:06 |
| Kamilion | https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=2&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwjgro3XsMnVAhUrsVQKHdczB94QFghSMAE&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.dell.com%2Flearn%2Fus%2Fen%2F19%2Fshared-content~data-sheets~en%2Fdocuments~ss694_powervault_md3200.pdf&usg=AFQjCNGYd9FT11Vd0CQQy-OrCqnkSH-41w | 05:07 |
| Kamilion | grr | 05:07 |
| Kamilion | http://www.dell.com/learn/us/en/19/shared-content~data-sheets~en/documents~ss694_powervault_md3200.pdf | 05:07 |
| tpb | Title: PowerVault MD3200/MD3220 Spec Sheet | Dell (at www.dell.com) | 05:07 |
| Kamilion | a single MD3220, mix of drives with it | 05:08 |
| Kamilion | fancy SAS multipath modules; but it still can't share drives | 05:08 |
| Kamilion | uhhh, think we've got some 40ish bay 4 or 5U supermicros | 05:09 |
| Kamilion | something like 32 in the front and another 8 in the back | 05:10 |
| Kamilion | at least one of them has no motherboard and has a bare AST2400 BMC by itself, in place of an ATX mobo. | 05:10 |
| Kamilion | We've got a lot of weird one-off stuff that comes out of prototyping labs; hacked up cases, preproduction units, but mostly finished goods inventory | 05:11 |
| Kamilion | only the FGI stuff really makes it to our limited ebay auctionspace | 05:12 |
| Kamilion | the rest is "you'll only know if you stop by or talk to Kamilion on IRC" ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ | 05:12 |
| mithro | I just care about JBOD type thing - don't know why anyone would trust their data to hardware raid.... | 05:14 |
| Kamilion | same. Most of the 2Us we have are LSI SAS2008. No RAID, just JBOD. | 05:21 |
| Kamilion | http://www.ebay.com/itm/Tyan-2U-Free-NAS-12-Bay-Server-SAS-SATA-6GB-3-5-w-2-x-6-cores-no-RAM-/231575535050 | 05:22 |
| Kamilion | these run quite fine with a single C32 opteron, no need to fill both sockets. | 05:22 |
| Kamilion | it's got a pair of hexcores that come with it though. | 05:22 |
| Kamilion | We rarely get ram, the jerks pull it before palletting it up and hucking it our way, and we've been yelling at the chain back that it's unacceptable to receive incomplete machines | 05:23 |
| Kamilion | rather; "if you ship us stuff we can't test; you get the scrap prices, not the trade in prices." | 05:24 |
| Kamilion | couple 2GB sticks of ECC DDR3, and btrfs is how I like 'em, even though they have them listed as freenas machines (and it includes a USB stick for freenas to boot from) | 05:25 |
| Kamilion | they weren't moving at all before we added "includes freenas!" to the listing... heh. | 05:25 |
| Kamilion | they're also really good ceph OSD machines. | 05:26 |
| Kamilion | http://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/g~EAAOSwZJlXM5lY/s-l1600.jpg The backplane directconnects to the motherboard. Only cable in there's the ATX feed and the fans | 05:27 |
| Kamilion | and I had 'em save all the usable backplanes from machines we've scrapped (some of them were produced without the second CPU socket populated | 05:29 |
| Kamilion | we've got nearly a pallet of something like six hundred and eighty spare power supplies | 05:29 |
| Kamilion | lot of other scrap boards and stuff, some have FPGAs and could be desoldered and reballed | 05:30 |
| Kamilion | http://puu.sh/x5lk2/fa3d3c37ae.jpg Here's one of the 24 bay 2.5" models loaded with sas SSDs | 05:32 |
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| CarlFK[m] | Kamilion: is your store open to the public? or really can I come over and look at all the stuff? | 17:24 |
| Kamilion | Sure, biz hours are 9am to 4:30pm, there's a camera in the lobby and someone should notice you after a few minutes | 17:30 |
| Kamilion | I'd suggest coming somewhere between 11am and 3pm, the owner's around during that time and he's normally happy to handshake and show around | 17:31 |
| Kamilion | sales guy's usually off around 1pm for a half hour | 17:31 |
| Kamilion | we do accept walk-in sales; although we are not 'open to the public' | 17:32 |
| Kamilion | can't just wander in our warehouse, and we don't have any cash registers ;) | 17:33 |
| Kamilion | they'll print off an invoice upstairs and can accept cash and major cards | 17:33 |
| Kamilion | there's also a doorbell just outside the front door; ring it two or three times and let yourself into the lobby if the front door's open. The two doors leading further in are pinpad access controlled. | 17:35 |
| Kamilion | escort only past that point, safety and such | 17:35 |
| CarlFK[m] | neat - I'll ping you a few hours ahead of time. | 17:36 |
| * Kamilion nods | 17:36 | |
| CarlFK[m] | do you want a twinpact vga/firewire thing? | 17:36 |
| CarlFK[m] | hmm, how many lbs of firewire stuff can I drop on the floor? | 17:36 |
| Kamilion | I'm low on funds this month after ordering a bunch of stuff from itead last month. | 17:37 |
| CarlFK[m] | also 2x2 vga active video matrix boxes. | 17:37 |
| Kamilion | Anything you wanna get rid of, we'll certainly take; and possiby if it's got some worth to it, the owner may elect to give you scrap prices for some stuff...? | 17:37 |
| Kamilion | otherwise, there's a lot of other places here in the bay area that will charge you for disposal of electronics (especally non RoHS stuff) | 17:38 |
| Kamilion | we've got stacks of PS/2+VGA KVMs that nobody wants these days | 17:39 |
| CarlFK[m] | meh, hardly worth me packing it for 'that' - I was wondering if you were personally interested in it for some odd reason | 17:39 |
| Kamilion | oh, I'm definitely personally interested in videocap gear | 17:39 |
| Kamilion | I'm just broke right now *laughs* | 17:39 |
| Kamilion | ordered a boxfull of these: https://www.itead.cc/sonoff-pow.html | 17:39 |
| tpb | Title: Sonoff Pow: Electricity Usage/Consumption Monitor Switch (at www.itead.cc) | 17:40 |
| CarlFK[m] | I'll give you a box of stuff - happy to see it go to someone like you | 17:40 |
| Kamilion | anything gifted personally stays personally gifted | 17:40 |
| Kamilion | would be a dickmove to resell a gift between hackers ^_^ | 17:41 |
| Kamilion | likewise, I've got a stock of esoterics; you're welcome to walk away with one or two if you can find a meaningful use | 17:42 |
| Kamilion | like, I've got three of these: http://www.hardkernel.com/main/products/prdt_info.php?g_code=G140610189490 | 17:44 |
| tpb | Title: ODROID | Hardkernel (at www.hardkernel.com) | 17:44 |
| Kamilion | If you can come up with a usecase that wows me, I'd be totally willing to just hand you one *G* | 17:44 |
| Kamilion | i got them to use with the pi noir 5mpix camera modules -- they have the 8mpix models now, and it'll still work. | 17:45 |
| Kamilion | <.< Never did end up ordering the camera modules themselves though... heh. | 17:46 |
| Kamilion | work ended up buying a full set of Hikvision cameras, and I just reflashed 'em to work with a swann branded DVR. | 17:46 |
| Kamilion | nice me-tal enclosures, power over ethernet... | 17:49 |
| Kamilion | I was gonna try stuffing it all in a monoprice security camera housing: https://www.monoprice.com/product?p_id=6691 | 17:49 |
| Kamilion | kinda glad I didn't have to. | 17:50 |
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| CarlFK[m] | Kamilion: I have 10 or so of these https://www.monoprice.com/product?p_id=4083 2X2 SVGA VGA MATRIX Switcher Splitter Amplifier Multiplier 250MHz | 19:12 |
| tpb | Title: 2X2 SVGA VGA MATRIX Switcher Splitter Amplifier Multiplier 250MHz - Monoprice.com (at www.monoprice.com) | 19:12 |
| CarlFK[m] | I'll bing you one for giggles | 19:13 |
| CarlFK[m] | I guess if you want more of my stuff I can box it up and ship it | 19:13 |
| Kamilion | oh, that'd be handy to run a VGA cable upstairs from the swann DVR to the accountant's big wallmount monitor | 19:13 |
| * CarlFK[m] adds vga over cat5 gizmo | 19:34 | |
| CarlFK[m] | how are you on 1' and 3' vga cables? | 19:35 |
| Kamilion | low. Got maybe five or six 6' cables... buncha DVI, no HDMI outside of my personal stash. | 19:38 |
| Kamilion | we mostly rely on IPMI remote iKVM anyway, so it hasn't been a big deal. Short cables are easy to store though. | 19:38 |
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