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| xfxf | mithro: sorry, busy with #dayjob. i don't think there's a MSY in the city, only CPL. officeworks may be the most convenient place | 07:02 |
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| mithro | I ended up getting some from the may near my place | 07:21 |
| mithro | At the airport now | 07:25 |
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| paddatrapper | mithro: current weekly update up. Still slightly a work in progress as I want to try add tomorrow in as well, depending on how it goes and how jet lagged I am | 10:18 |
| mithro | I made it to Melbourne | 10:53 |
| xfxf | \o/ | 11:31 |
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| CarlFK | 3). What problems usually come up during a day of recording a convention? | 15:35 |
| CarlFK | I forget to eat. | 15:36 |
| tumbleweed | CarlFK: where should we document opsis flashing? | 15:53 |
| tumbleweed | (or where is the documentation that should be improved) | 15:53 |
| CarlFK | tumbleweed: sec... | 15:54 |
| CarlFK | here is my wiki https://github.com/CarlFK/HDMI2USB-mode-switch/wiki | 15:54 |
| tpb | Title: Home · CarlFK/HDMI2USB-mode-switch Wiki · GitHub (at github.com) | 15:54 |
| CarlFK | I would cut/paste that into some other wiki and tweek as needed | 15:54 |
| CarlFK | or feed me stuff and I'll tweek mine | 15:55 |
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| Choco31415 | Hello! I wanted to ask about the Numato Opsis board? It's "Out of Stock" on numato.com, and crowdsupply.com's "Order Now" button doesn't work. Is the board still available? | 17:19 |
| CarlFK | Choco31415: mithro will be able to answer in a few hours. | 17:21 |
| Choco31415 | CarlFK: Thank you! | 17:22 |
| CarlFK | Choco31415: I think the answer is Yes, or sort of. like you may need to wait till enough people want to order | 17:22 |
| CarlFK | it isn't a product that is manufactured 1000's at a time to make sure they are always in stock | 17:23 |
| CarlFK | that does not happen, but I am not sure what does happen. | 17:23 |
| Choco31415 | CarlFK: The reason why I'm asking is because I'm looking into streaming the Ohio LinuxFest. Currently the videos are awful! The streams should have a copy of the presentation in them, hence Opsis. | 17:27 |
| CarlFK | oh hi! | 17:27 |
| CarlFK | are you the person I just send a huge email about audio ? | 17:27 |
| Choco31415 | CarlFK: Apparently. | 17:27 |
| CarlFK | when is it? | 17:29 |
| CarlFK | do you call it OLF? | 17:29 |
| Choco31415 | CarlFK: Ohio LinuxFest is September 29-30. I haven't heard OLF yet. | 17:30 |
| CarlFK | Ohio LinuxFest is too much to type :p | 17:30 |
| Choco31415 | Fair :p | 17:31 |
| Choco31415 | Carl, do you know if there is an Opsis for rent? That thing (and every VCD) is expensive. | 17:31 |
| CarlFK | those of us that have one wouldn | 17:32 |
| CarlFK | those of us that have one wouldn | 17:32 |
| CarlFK | damm it.. | 17:32 |
| CarlFK | those of us that have one wouldn't take your money like that | 17:32 |
| CarlFK | You need it days or really weeks ahead of time to practice with | 17:33 |
| CarlFK | were you at PyOhio? | 17:33 |
| Choco31415 | CarlFK: Agreed. I still don't know if it can connect with OBS. | 17:33 |
| Choco31415 | Unfortunately no. I'm away at the moment. | 17:34 |
| Choco31415 | *No, I wasn't at PyOhio | 17:34 |
| Choco31415 | If the Opsis isn't being rented or sold, is there a chance it can be borrowed? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ | 17:36 |
| CarlFK | thats more likely | 17:36 |
| CarlFK | it is a similar thing to "can I get commit privs to your git repo?" | 17:37 |
| CarlFK | but first wait for mithro to come around and see what he says | 17:38 |
| Choco31415 | Which most people don't give. | 17:38 |
| Choco31415 | Sounds good. | 17:38 |
| CarlFK | most people don't have a git repo ;) | 17:38 |
| CarlFK | if you have a deb/ubuntu box handy... here is something I can help you with: | 17:39 |
| CarlFK | https://github.com/CarlFK/voctomix-outcasts#getting-started--demo | 17:39 |
| tpb | Title: GitHub - CarlFK/voctomix-outcasts (at github.com) | 17:39 |
| Choco31415 | I hope you're not insuating that SVN's the standard... | 17:40 |
| CarlFK | most people aren | 17:40 |
| CarlFK | most people aren | 17:40 |
| CarlFK | damm touchy enter key... | 17:40 |
| CarlFK | most people aren't coders. most coders work for ABC Corp... etc. but there are plenty that do use github, and plenty that do give commit privs | 17:41 |
| CarlFK | I give privs to anything that tumbleweed asks me for because I am delighted he will fix my stuff | 17:42 |
| Choco31415 | It's hard to know when all your friends are coders (ignoring the one neuro-surgeon). :p | 17:43 |
| CarlFK | in 2007 I spent months making videos of every single user group talk I could find. even the Java group, and I have 0.0 interest in Java. | 17:44 |
| Choco31415 | IRC chats? | 17:45 |
| CarlFK | hmm? | 17:45 |
| Choco31415 | You said "user group talk"? Were those IRC chats? | 17:45 |
| CarlFK | no | 17:46 |
| CarlFK | don't you attend monthly LUG meetings? | 17:46 |
| Choco31415 | I haven't heard of LUG meetings? | 17:46 |
| CarlFK | people in a room, 1 or 2 talks - like a mini conference | 17:47 |
| CarlFK | it is perfect for getting up to speed on recording talks. no one will be annoyed if you mess up | 17:48 |
| CarlFK | you should also set stuff up in your living room, but it isn't the same | 17:49 |
| Choco31415 | When I did my first livestream, people actually enjoyed the mistakes. There were so many, like once I was playing the stream's audio while recording. | 17:50 |
| Choco31415 | Test watching the stream has caught so many audio problems. | 17:51 |
| CarlFK | here is something that happeened at PyOhio - still not sure why. the quality is good enough, but I really wish I understood what happened to make sure it doesn't happen again: | 17:52 |
| CarlFK | http://youtu.be/o0VsZq7qWA0 | 17:52 |
| CarlFK | presenter: The sound is rather choppy. Is that something that can be fixed? | 17:52 |
| CarlFK | it is bad enough that he would say that. | 17:52 |
| CarlFK | it can be hard to rate how bad things are | 17:53 |
| Choco31415 | There was a second talk like that! Moment... | 17:53 |
| CarlFK | there is "no audio" and "awful" .. those are easy. | 17:53 |
| CarlFK | I think all the ones in that room were like that | 17:53 |
| Choco31415 | It was a different room. | 17:54 |
| CarlFK | this year was "let the venue handle audio, they have a new system, they tell me it will be great." | 17:54 |
| CarlFK | it was OK, but it wasn't great. | 17:55 |
| Choco31415 | Never mind, it wasn't so bad, but the audio has a ton of fuzz: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XY1p1UiP-fY&list=PL2k6bbM_wgjtIH-DmrBuj8QiB8DkDUeqb&index=3 | 17:56 |
| Choco31415 | Some stuttering too. | 17:56 |
| CarlFK | yeah - that qualifes as good enough, but I can do better | 17:58 |
| CarlFK | if you were in the room you could hear that too. but somehow it isn't as distracting | 17:59 |
| Choco31415 | About Vocto, it records from a AV source, and writes it. Does it only write ts? Also, is ingest.py literally a giant bash script generator? | 18:05 |
| CarlFK | so... a few things about 'that' | 18:10 |
| CarlFK | "Voctomix" does not do hardware or files or streaming - it only mixes | 18:11 |
| CarlFK | just like postgresql or mysql does not do contact management UI | 18:11 |
| CarlFK | if you join the #voctomix channel and talk to the devs about problems, it is good to know whos problem it is | 18:12 |
| CarlFK | mixing problem is voctomix. can't read from camera ... likely my problem | 18:12 |
| CarlFK | ingest also gets config parameters from the mixers (super handy but not critical) .... | 18:13 |
| CarlFK | ingest connects to the mixers clock source - without this you risk sources drifting out of sync, even if you think you can fix that. | 18:14 |
| CarlFK | but otherwise, yes: constructs a gst pipeline that you can cut/paste and run in bash - which I do for testing and bug reports | 18:15 |
| CarlFK | you can encode to any format you want - just write the gst pipeline | 18:16 |
| CarlFK | we use something that is a good compromise between disk space, cpu load and quality | 18:16 |
| Choco31415 | If Voctomix only mixes, then the video would disappear to the lands of unused RAM. Unless you meant it builds the gst pipeline, so it doesn't directly deal with videos/hardware? | 18:21 |
| CarlFK | correct | 18:23 |
| CarlFK | er.. | 18:24 |
| CarlFK | you need to built the gst pipeline to save and or stream too | 18:24 |
| Choco31415 | By the way, I hope I'm not asking too many questions! It sounds like you have some free time, so I'm asking a little extra. | 18:24 |
| CarlFK | no prob | 18:25 |
| CarlFK | I've heard good things about your show | 18:26 |
| Choco31415 | Not to surprise, but I'm not part of their crew yet. | 18:26 |
| Choco31415 | I want to be, because again their videos suck. I submitted the volunteer application earlier, and I'll escalate it from there. | 18:27 |
| Choco31415 | LinuxFest is good! | 18:27 |
| CarlFK | how many roooms are you hoping to record? | 18:27 |
| Choco31415 | 1, maybe 2 if my roommate helps out. | 18:28 |
| Choco31415 | He does video work too, and he livestreamed the OHIO engineering hackathon. | 18:29 |
| Choco31415 | It got maybe 5 views. | 18:30 |
| CarlFK | I would skip the streams and just record / upload to youtube | 18:31 |
| Choco31415 | Streams include livestreams? | 18:32 |
| CarlFK | for live to be worth it, you need to advertise it, and you don't want to advertise it till you know t is rock solid | 18:32 |
| CarlFK | yeah | 18:32 |
| Choco31415 | I can only imagine the disk usage... | 18:33 |
| CarlFK | 5g/hour - no big deal | 18:33 |
| Choco31415 | Never mind. | 18:34 |
| CarlFK | https://veyepar.nextdayvideo.com/main/show_stats/394/ | 18:36 |
| tpb | Title: veyepar - Show: PyOhio Pyohio_2017 (at veyepar.nextdayvideo.com) | 18:36 |
| Choco31415 | I just checked, and OBS does support Video Capture Devices. | 18:36 |
| CarlFK | that shows you disk space by day/room/total... | 18:37 |
| CarlFK | 4 rooms 2 days expected:473g | 18:37 |
| Choco31415 | That makes sense. The reason why events have multiple audio files is because of pauses or "do not release" videos? | 18:40 |
| CarlFK | what? | 18:41 |
| Choco31415 | Under "Cartoon 1" "Sat 29", under the "Audio" section, time 07:03 has 4 audio files. I assume this is the audio for one talk? | 18:42 |
| CarlFK | ah, that. no. | 18:43 |
| CarlFK | first.. those should be images of audio waves... sec... | 18:43 |
| CarlFK | https://veyepar.nextdayvideo.com/main/raw_file_audio/?show_id=342&location_slug=Collins_Auditorium&start_date=2016-11-20 | 18:44 |
| tpb | Title: Veyepar: Video eyeball produce and review. (at veyepar.nextdayvideo.com) | 18:44 |
| CarlFK | left/right channel. you can see big chunks of missing audio | 18:44 |
| CarlFK | I save out 30 min then start a new file. or if I am setting up and restart things, like at the begining of the day.. smaller files get created | 18:45 |
| CarlFK | there is a log file of 'cuts' which are where you would cut movie film to separate junk from content | 18:46 |
| CarlFK | record all day long - then use the cuts file and the talk schedule to find the data to assemble into a video of a talk | 18:47 |
| Choco31415 | Oh, good idea. I've never thought of that. | 18:48 |
| CarlFK | that's what veyepar does | 18:52 |
| CarlFK | well. that's kinda the point of it. then 100 other things were added on, like tweeting the URL once the presenter has clicked Approve | 18:53 |
| Choco31415 | As long as they organize every functionality by script, it's not bad. | 18:59 |
| Choco31415 | I'll be back in a bit. | 19:28 |
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| Choco31415 | CarlFK: Can I ask for a small favor? | 19:43 |
| CarlFK | whats that? | 19:43 |
| Choco31415 | I reloaded the chat and I forgot I wanted to save the chat history. | 19:43 |
| Choco31415 | Could you copy our chat to, say, Pastebin? | 19:43 |
| Choco31415 | Thank you so much! | 19:44 |
| * CarlFK points at topic | 19:45 | |
| CarlFK | it is all logged | 19:45 |
| Choco31415 | IRC chat is logged? | 19:46 |
| CarlFK | this channel is | 19:47 |
| Choco31415 | history 10 | 19:47 |
| Choco31415 | Found. | 19:49 |
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| Choco31415 | Is mithro here now? | 22:13 |
| Choco31415 | CarlFK: Is there a good time to catch mithro? | 22:28 |
| Choco31415 | I have to get off soon. | 22:29 |
| CarlFK | soon .. and then for the next 18 hours | 22:29 |
| Choco31415 | That's an interesting sleep schedule. | 22:30 |
| CarlFK | he lives in Australia | 22:31 |
| CarlFK | It is 8am Wednesday over there now. | 22:31 |
| Choco31415 | That's a coincedence. I'm in Europe right now, the opposite of Australia. | 22:33 |
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| Choco31415 | Good night Carl! | 23:37 |
| CarlFK[m] | See ya | 23:43 |
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