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| xfxf | @mithro any idea what's going on there? i'm going to try a reflash tonight, but it's super wierd, it was working fine, wasn't dropped or anything, and tried three different power supplies in case it was a power issue. | 00:28 |
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| mithro | xfxf: that very much looks like you haven't flash the firmware onto it. | 00:29 |
| xfxf | it was a working unit i used 12 hours earlier | 00:29 |
| xfxf | but, will reflash | 00:29 |
| mithro | I'm skeptical | 00:30 |
| mithro | Did fact that it doesn't say it's checking to boot from flash is weird | 00:30 |
| xfxf | absolutely the case, because it was the only unit i had in a box 60km from where I live, so zero chance i mixed it up with another one | 00:31 |
| xfxf | plugged in to test everything, put back into box, unpacked everything again to train an AV colleague who is recording something for me tomorrow, no worky | 00:31 |
| xfxf | i had to do mode-switch --serial to see the above | 00:31 |
| xfxf | oh, right, maybe the above is because i did that so a red herring? in any case, it wasn't coming up with the uvc video device or the serial console | 00:32 |
| xfxf | again, will try reflashing, will see what happens | 00:32 |
| xfxf | also brought two other units today so i'll just use another one that works in prod and poke at this later | 00:33 |
| mithro | Still skeptical.. Also why are you using firmware / gateware from Jan 15? | 00:33 |
| xfxf | it's a box we used at lca. i haven't updated the firmware on any since we last used it | 00:34 |
| xfxf | i'm hesitant to update firmware/gateware before an event for obvious reasons :) | 00:34 |
| xfxf | directly before, rather. especially seeing as I won't be there | 00:34 |
| mithro | Yes, but you should be regularly updating and testing the firmware otherwise there is no guarantee we haven't broken it | 00:35 |
| xfxf | in theory, agreed, in reality, i only do events every ~3 months and things have been super busy for me recently, only getting breathing space again now | 00:35 |
| xfxf | my intention is to do this in the coming weeks in prep for pycon au | 00:36 |
| mithro | Sure, the project however gets very little value from you using such an old firmware. IE any feedback you provide is probably going to be useless as the first thing we have to do is see if we can reproduce on the newest firmware. | 00:38 |
| xfxf | valid point - i'll upgrade the units this weekend after this gig | 00:38 |
| mithro | I should put a timebomb in the firmware to stop people using really old versions - luckily the boards don't have a clock to do that :-) | 00:40 |
| mithro | Btw, I'm pretty sure you still owe me a GUI and fixes to the C firmware to make the status lines more useful for computers to parse. | 00:43 |
| mithro | In theory, with the new qemu stuff, you can even do that development without needing hardware too | 00:44 |
| mithro | Maybe you could get deeprave onto it? He did a pretty good job with hdmi2usbd | 00:45 |
| mithro | paddatrapper: is slowly making progress on getting the USB audio stuff done. | 00:47 |
| mithro | xfxf: did you see my comments about the SDI stuff too? | 00:48 |
| xfxf | deeprave is pretty busy with his work, i've just changed jobs (again) - i have done more work on both, just haven't finished | 01:06 |
| xfxf | and I did, looks interesting if it happens | 01:06 |
| CarlFK | mithro: https://hdmi2usb.tv/firmware/ TODO Put instructions here. | 02:04 |
| CarlFK | That is the end of my attempt to update firmware | 02:04 |
| xfxf | CarlFK: you're not very adventurous! | 02:20 |
| CarlFK | xfxf: meh, I've do more in the past, result is the same, so cutting my losses | 02:21 |
| mithro | CarlFK: So, the whole TimVideos project comes partly from your effort to add documentation for dvswitch and stuff you did with the TwinPact. I not sure how you would still be doing recording without our efforts so I'm not sure why you would be "cutting your losses"... | 02:37 |
| xfxf | mithro: i think for us it's when we're doing gigs there's like a million things we need to be keeping track of / doing. firmware is just one and experimenting with new firmware at an event we're meant to be doing as a reliable vendor is super dicey, and testing firmware regularly always requires intentionality and a workflow which doesn't happen naturally | 02:40 |
| xfxf | not to say we shouldn't be doing it, but it's just one of many things we need to be doing | 02:41 |
| xfxf | the best way to do it would be to tie in video recording via the hdmi2usb as something we regularly do. maybe i'll setup an external security camera or something fed into it | 02:42 |
| xfxf | i've setup a test bench a few times but it always gets packed up within weeks due to lack of space | 02:43 |
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| mithro | Sure, we all have a huge amount of things we need to do and resources we are contributing. We all have to be selective about where we spend our time. | 02:48 |
| mithro | For everyones information, running on old firmware does nothing to help the HDMI2USB project. | 02:51 |
| mithro | I've not got the resources to spend effort on supporting people running the older versions. | 02:52 |
| xfxf | already acknowledged that and told you'll upgrade firmware this weekend | 02:53 |
| xfxf | i'm not telling you why i'm not doing it, i'm just explaining why things are the way they are | 02:53 |
| xfxf | s/you'll/you that i'll/ | 02:53 |
| mithro | xfxf: Yeap, and it awesome that you'll do that. | 02:54 |
| mithro | Just making my position clear so you have the right expectations. | 02:54 |
| xfxf | already understood :P | 02:55 |
| CarlFK | mithro: put a link do "how to flash" and I'll try it | 02:57 |
| CarlFK | mithro: otherwise I am fishing for docs and have no idea if what I find has been replaced by something | 02:58 |
| mithro | CarlFK: I know you have flashed boards, I'm pretty sure I have emails from you to prove it | 03:02 |
| mithro | This is the style of help we need at the moment -> http://ewen.mcneill.gen.nz/blog/entry/2017-03-12-micropython-on-numato-mimas-v2/ | 03:03 |
| tpb | Title: MicroPython on the Numato Mimas v2 (at ewen.mcneill.gen.nz) | 03:03 |
| CarlFK | mithro: I still find it very frustrating | 03:04 |
| mithro | CarlFK: Yeah - I'm confident that it is - I find it frustrating that I'm not more organised, better at writing docs and have enough time + motivation to fix everything like this | 03:14 |
| CarlFK | mithro: find some docs, put the URL on https://hdmi2usb.tv/firmware/ | 03:16 |
| xfxf | CarlFK: i think mithro is trying to say he'd appreciate somebody else helping with that. you may already have the info in your email | 03:27 |
| xfxf | otherwise i'll do it this weekend when i reflash the stuff | 03:27 |
| CarlFK | xfxf: can you update that page? | 03:28 |
| xfxf | added to my TODO | 03:28 |
| xfxf | i think i have commit access to that webpages repo but i'll PR it against mithro so he can tell me everything i'm doing wrong :P | 03:29 |
| CarlFK | if you have a URL, do it now | 03:29 |
| xfxf | just started a new job, sorry, can't do, i don't remember off the top of my head to do it and i'd need to get gear out to test | 03:30 |
| xfxf | zero way i'm doing that now | 03:30 |
| CarlFK | you are 2 steps ahead of me | 03:30 |
| xfxf | i'll just write down the process i follow when i update firmware this weekend and throw it up on the page | 03:30 |
| CarlFK | oh god, more docs | 03:30 |
| xfxf | it'll probably involve looking at my .bash_history :P | 03:30 |
| xfxf | iirc mode-switch does the update anyway, and you can use the precompiled firmware/gateware, --help should tell you | 03:31 |
| CarlFK | I am sure there is a doc that says that | 03:32 |
| CarlFK | someone should find it and put the url on that page. | 03:32 |
| mithro | CarlFK: I've updated the page as much as I have time to do -> https://hdmi2usb.tv/firmware/ | 03:35 |
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| mithro | CarlFK: The source is here -> https://github.com/timvideos/hdmi2usb.tv/blob/master/Firmware.md | 03:35 |
| tpb | Title: hdmi2usb.tv/Firmware.md at master · timvideos/hdmi2usb.tv · GitHub (at github.com) | 03:35 |
| CarlFK | mithro: can you remove "TODO Put instructions here" | 03:36 |
| mithro | CarlFK: I don't have any more time to dedicate to this today, I have work I need to finish and I've already spent way longer on this then I should have | 03:37 |
| mithro | CarlFK: pull requests welcome | 03:37 |
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| CarlFK | VShell: hmm.. thanks. | 15:15 |
| VShell | perfect. :) | 15:15 |
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| paddatrapper | mithro: ping? | 19:59 |
| CarlFK | paddatrapper: 6am for him - doubtful he is up | 20:29 |
| paddatrapper | CarlFK: ah yes. Forgot about timezones | 20:37 |
| rk[ghost] | err, is the Opsis still purchasable? | 20:58 |
| paddatrapper | rk[ghost]: there are currently none in stock. The last was bought 2 hours ago | 21:13 |
| rk[ghost] | paddatrapper: ha! | 21:15 |
| * paddatrapper knows only because the debconf video team were the ones who bought it | 21:16 | |
| rk[ghost] | heh- | 21:17 |
| rk[ghost] | i see that Novena is on the "todo" list for porting the hdmi2usb project.. any progress with this? | 21:18 |
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