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| xfxf | CarlFK: videos are being uploaded within hours. haven't watched so no idea about QA, but kudos to that - we need to up our workflow | 00:30 |
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| xfxf | (which I'm OK with, nothing wrong with a reminder to innovate more) | 00:31 |
| CarlFK | meh - i have done it. we don't need to. | 00:31 |
| xfxf | same, but it assumes network connectivity. they don't have that (believe they're ejecting SD cards and moving them to the edit room) | 00:32 |
| CarlFK | i've used usb drives. doubles as backup | 00:33 |
| xfxf | sure, but that's moving after every break or at lunch, right? | 00:33 |
| xfxf | these are moving after every talk | 00:33 |
| CarlFK | meh | 00:33 |
| tumbleweed | at debconf we'll rsync between talks on the last day, so we can get everything done by teardown | 00:33 |
| tumbleweed | but that does come with some risk | 00:33 |
| xfxf | (my intention is to have encoding kick off almost immediately after recording and QA - we have discussed it) | 00:33 |
| xfxf | yeah, this needs to be low risk so it's scalable and nobody gets burnt out | 00:34 |
| CarlFK | the doesn't need to happen | 00:34 |
| CarlFK | getting the gig needs to happen | 00:34 |
| tumbleweed | :P | 00:34 |
| xfxf | actually I care about improving our process | 00:35 |
| xfxf | The next day thing isn't special anymore | 00:35 |
| xfxf | It was 5 yrs ago | 00:35 |
| tumbleweed | you've seen what c3 does? dumping streams to files, before the official videos come out | 00:35 |
| xfxf | I know you and I disagree on this regularly :P | 00:35 |
| xfxf | there are workflow improvements that can be made that'll improve a bunch of things IMO | 00:35 |
| tumbleweed | I don't think doing the final encode live is out of the question | 00:36 |
| xfxf | just needs time | 00:36 |
| xfxf | yeah, I suspect a live encode will be on par quality wise with a dump and encode from SD | 00:36 |
| xfxf | I'm guessing there are gonna be QA issues they'll fix later | 00:36 |
| xfxf | I don't like that approach | 00:36 |
| xfxf | But we can negate that with our remote monitoring | 00:36 |
| xfxf | The SD solutions don't allow for that | 00:36 |
| CarlFK | you can do what you want. Ill keep doing what I want ;) | 00:37 |
| xfxf | indeed | 00:37 |
| xfxf | still doesn't mean I'm not gonna ping you about it. I know you do your own thing :P | 00:37 |
| CarlFK | my current focus is on getting the conference people more in tune | 00:37 |
| xfxf | I'm legit weighing up a job offer versus going full time with NDV at the moment | 00:39 |
| CarlFK | less cruft at the beginning of talks, better meta data, swarm of people who care and will shore up the QA | 00:39 |
| xfxf | If I do the latter I'll be hitting up the commerical sector heavily | 00:39 |
| xfxf | Hence thinking about workflow improvements | 00:39 |
| xfxf | I'd be looking at contracting regular knowns, the types of conferences with actual budgets won't want volunteers | 00:40 |
| xfxf | but that's a bit of a different model than what we normally do | 00:40 |
| xfxf | but a lot of the same things can apply | 00:40 |
| xfxf | ideally I'll find a model that works for both so I can sustainably keep doing the smaller confs with small budgets but good purpose that deserve decent video | 00:41 |
| xfxf | mostly thru more automation | 00:41 |
| xfxf | I told you I kinda got basic speaker tracking working? | 00:41 |
| xfxf | needs more work tho | 00:42 |
| xfxf | CarlFK: I suspect a large part of your challenge there is to make the value of those things more visible so people care | 00:44 |
| xfxf | right now they don't know they should care - expectations aren't high | 00:44 |
| xfxf | and anything perceived as extra work for the events will work against you | 00:45 |
| xfxf | tumbleweed: doing anything this evening? dinner? | 00:47 |
| tumbleweed | xfxf: no dining plans yet. I was planning to do the auction, though | 00:49 |
| xfxf | tumbleweed: sorry, got distracted - ping me when you want to do dinner. Where is the auction? | 01:43 |
| tumbleweed | https://us.pycon.org/2017/events/auction/ | 01:49 |
| tpb | Title: PyLadies Auction | PyCon 2017 in Portland, Oregon (at us.pycon.org) | 01:49 |
| xfxf | omw | 01:50 |
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| xfxf | tumbleweed: dinner plans? | 23:57 |
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