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| CarlFK | mithro: is there a PA system (amp/speakers), or just your mic plugged into that for recording? | 00:02 |
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| xfxf | yeah i get that, i'm just making a point that i agree with you even in a more ideal scenario | 00:02 |
| mithro | Just a mic plugged in for recording | 00:02 |
| xfxf | yeah, see, i'd never ever do just a mic without PA | 00:02 |
| xfxf | there's no feedback loop for the person wearing the mic, highly prone to issues | 00:02 |
| xfxf | having them hear theirselves means they self-regulate | 00:02 |
| xfxf | well, sorry, i would, but i'd expect problems :P | 00:02 |
| xfxf | for what you're recording it might be 'good enough' | 00:03 |
| mithro | This is going to be weird, it's going to have super high quality audio and terrible audio :-P | 00:03 |
| mithro | Opps I mean | 00:04 |
| mithro | This is going to be weird, it's going to have super high quality video and terrible audio :-P | 00:04 |
| xfxf | that's pretty normal these days | 00:05 |
| CarlFK | yeah, people are terrible using a mic, even when they do hear it. | 00:05 |
| mithro | Have you done vocto -> youtube? | 00:05 |
| xfxf | if you're doing more of these sorts of things mithro i'd consider a directional mic or similar | 00:05 |
| CarlFK | streaming? no. | 00:05 |
| xfxf | it's still not goign to be good as a lapel but if you've got no PA it'll be better than what you have now | 00:05 |
| xfxf | mithro: i tried it once briefly, appeared to work, but not in production | 00:06 |
| xfxf | required the appropriate gstreamer pipeline to transcode + throw at the RTSP endpoint | 00:06 |
| CarlFK | if you are going to be doing these things, get a lapel mic (or maybe headset. pros and cons) but way better than a hand held | 00:07 |
| mithro | I just purchased "Behringer Xenyx 1204USB 12-Input Mic/Line Mixer w/ USB" -> http://www.bettermusic.com.au/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/498x/602f0fa2c1f0d1ba5e241f914e856ff9/1/2/1204usb_p0794_top_xxl.png | 00:07 |
| mithro | I have a lapel mic | 00:07 |
| mithro | the problem is getting the lapel mic audio into the computer | 00:07 |
| mithro | That is the part where it always seems to fall apart | 00:08 |
| xfxf | mithro: how so? i assume the lapel mic has a wireless reciever with XLR and jack o ut? | 00:08 |
| mithro | xfxf: Which is connected to the USB audio device | 00:08 |
| mithro | Which is where it seems to fall apart | 00:08 |
| xfxf | mithro: via which mechanism? | 00:08 |
| xfxf | (un)balanced xlr, otherwise? | 00:09 |
| mithro | XLR -> Audio Mixer | 00:09 |
| xfxf | using the mixer you pasted above? | 00:09 |
| mithro | The problem is the Audio Mixer <-> Computer, not Mic <-> Audio Mixer | 00:09 |
| xfxf | oh, right | 00:09 |
| xfxf | okay, so i own a bunch of USB 'audio mixers' | 00:10 |
| xfxf | they all seem to do wierd shit under linux | 00:10 |
| xfxf | i use RCA monitor out > a proper external sound card with RCA in | 00:10 |
| xfxf | which works fine | 00:10 |
| mithro | IE I get good audio on the "monitor out" | 00:10 |
| CarlFK | oh.. are you having trouble getting the right alsa device id/name/whatever? | 00:10 |
| mithro | CarlFK: the audio level on the alsa device is just way to quiet | 00:10 |
| xfxf | that said, monitor out != main out | 00:10 |
| xfxf | mithro: different adjustments | 00:11 |
| mithro | There is a button which says "MONITOR / MAIN MIX" | 00:11 |
| xfxf | not buttons, different adjustments on each channel | 00:11 |
| xfxf | you'll likely have main out, aux 1/2 out, monitor out | 00:12 |
| xfxf | i've not used the mixer you've pasted for years so i can't remember exactly what | 00:12 |
| xfxf | your headphones plugged into the mixer often won't give you a 1:1 to what's coming out of main, they're designed to be independent so you can test/check levels of other inputs etc while a show is happening | 00:13 |
| mithro | Yeah | 00:13 |
| tumbleweed | mithro: if it's only one mic, why bother with a mixer? use a USB audio interface | 00:16 |
| xfxf | mithro: LA + myself own a bunch of these : http://www.musiciansfriend.com/pro-audio/yamaha-audiogram-6-computer-recording-system | 00:19 |
| tpb | Title: Yamaha AUDIOGRAM 6 COMPUTER RECORDING SYSTEM | Musician's Friend (at www.musiciansfriend.com) | 00:19 |
| xfxf | it's easier than that huge mixer you bought | 00:19 |
| tumbleweed | those huge mixers are nice, but yeah, never tried the USB | 00:20 |
| mithro | tumbleweed: The huge mixer is for when I need to interface with in-room PA system | 00:23 |
| tumbleweed | right | 00:23 |
| mithro | tumbleweed: The big thing I wanted was 2 XLR in and 1 XLR out | 00:29 |
| mithro | without needing adapters | 00:29 |
| tumbleweed | mixers are nice to have | 00:29 |
| tumbleweed | but yes, you need audio level from the PC | 00:30 |
| mithro | Need paddatrapper to hurry up with the USB audio stuff and we build an expansion card which does audio :-P | 00:32 |
| CarlFK | mithro: it might help you if the hdmi2usb would use the hdmi audio | 00:33 |
| CarlFK | cameras are pretty good about managing audio | 00:34 |
| mithro | CarlFK: that wouldn't help me all that much - my camera is a HE100 PTZ SDI camera | 00:34 |
| mithro | https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1_thcxt4IhPswIQrtRejGuzMgHnP04VAe19cn0MqEK1Q/edit#gid=804238177 | 00:34 |
| tpb | Title: TimVideos Kit Design - Google Sheets (at docs.google.com) | 00:34 |
| CarlFK | neat | 00:39 |
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| mithro | I really need iris control | 05:28 |
| mithro | Well, the HDMI2USB is performing perfectly | 05:29 |
| mithro | Not even getting any noise.... | 05:29 |
| mithro | The laptop it is connected too is however not | 05:30 |
| xfxf | mithro: howso? | 06:46 |
| xfxf | CarlFK: lol, this just came up in my FB feed: https://scontent-syd2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/154133_467424887793_5246702_n.jpg?oh=d59743f36d8acd02b78b5ecffd96d44c&oe=58C6094D | 06:46 |
| CarlFK | LOL that didn't happen. | 06:47 |
| xfxf | photo says otherwise | 06:48 |
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| paddatrapper | mithro: I'm working on it :) though my USBs are giving issue with the board... | 11:14 |
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| paddatrapper | mithro: probably want 2 XLRs out. Proper stereo | 14:57 |
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| mithro | paddatrapper: pretty much everything comes with 2, but I only really care about mono | 22:14 |
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