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| CarlFK | Hi! | 05:08 |
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| CarlFK | I am running off: but the quick answer: hdmi2usb voctomix veyepar | 05:08 |
| SamSagaZ | nice | 05:09 |
| SamSagaZ | will google about it! | 05:09 |
| SamSagaZ | thanks CarlFK ! | 05:09 |
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| mithro | Hi SamSagaZ | 05:14 |
| SamSagaZ | hi mithro | 05:14 |
| mithro | SamSagaZ: I like to say Hi to new people and find out who they are and why they are here | 05:15 |
| SamSagaZ | ok :) | 05:15 |
| SamSagaZ | im from Argentina | 05:15 |
| SamSagaZ | my english is not good :/ btw, im here because i recorded the latest 3 Pycon Argentina (last one last week) and i found that Pycon US record the slides into some good format because quality are great | 05:16 |
| SamSagaZ | i just trying to figure what you guys use in the pycon to try to use similar stup next year | 05:17 |
| SamSagaZ | i recorded pycon and pycamps | 05:17 |
| SamSagaZ | thats all | 05:17 |
| SamSagaZ | i asked about the videos in #python and they told me that ask here | 05:17 |
| mithro | SamSagaZ: Your English is pretty great! | 05:18 |
| SamSagaZ | well, dont think so, at least sometimes ppl understand me | 05:19 |
| SamSagaZ | :) | 05:19 |
| mithro | IIRC There is another argentinian who sometimes hangs out here | 05:19 |
| SamSagaZ | who? remember the nickname? | 05:20 |
| mithro | SamSagaZ: Is sounds like you might know Carl (Karsten)? | 05:20 |
| mithro | (He records a bunch of PyCon events in the US) | 05:21 |
| SamSagaZ | yes, he already told me in #pycon :) | 05:21 |
| mithro | nueces is their nick | 05:21 |
| SamSagaZ | now needs to find some way to get the money to purchase the hdmi2usb :/ | 05:22 |
| SamSagaZ | oh didnt know he | 05:22 |
| SamSagaZ | maybe he dont use python | 05:22 |
| mithro | SamSagaZ: That is a problem I might be able to help with | 05:22 |
| SamSagaZ | didnt know... | 05:22 |
| mithro | SamSagaZ: I think he is involved with recording roller derby | 05:22 |
| SamSagaZ | didnt know he... | 05:22 |
| SamSagaZ | ah, i see | 05:23 |
| SamSagaZ | well, im just part of Python Argentina | 05:23 |
| mithro | There are ~40 million people in Argentina, so it is pretty unlikely | 05:23 |
| SamSagaZ | last week we have the pycon.ar http://ar.pycon.org/, was great the event, but video quality of the recording was not very good :D | 05:24 |
| mithro | SamSagaZ: Have you considered asking the PSF for a grant? | 05:24 |
| SamSagaZ | well PSF help us a lot, will talk with the directives of Python in Argentina about that! | 05:25 |
| mithro | SamSagaZ: It might also be interesting to reach out to the Debian community in Argentina - IIRC They are pretty active | 05:25 |
| mithro | SamSagaZ: There are a bunch of DebConf Video people in this channel | 05:25 |
| SamSagaZ | oh, thanks for the tip | 05:26 |
| SamSagaZ | will try to contact they | 05:26 |
| mithro | SamSagaZ: If you have can find people who are actively interested in developing HDMI2USB related stuff and start contributing, I will figure out a way to get hardware to them | 05:27 |
| SamSagaZ | mithro, what kind of helo you are looking for? what kind of develop you are looking for? | 05:30 |
| mithro | SamSagaZ: There is a huge number of different things - https://code.timvideos.us/contribute-diagram/ | 05:33 |
| xfxf | SamSagaZ: we all develop various bits of a full open source recording stack used for various pycons and other conferences | 05:33 |
| xfxf | we can use help everywhere from documentation to working on software to working on hardware | 05:33 |
| xfxf | people from all around the world are in here + use parts of it for their own local conferences | 05:33 |
| xfxf | welcome, btw! | 05:34 |
| * mithro is the "Tim" from TimVideos :) | 05:34 | |
| mithro | SamSagaZ: Python developers definitely can help out | 05:35 |
| xfxf | mithro: I hadn't seen that page, that's quite nice, good work | 05:35 |
| mithro | xfxf: There is also an interactive version -> https://code.timvideos.us/contribute-interactive/#!/hwsw/bits | 05:36 |
| xfxf | heh, neat | 05:36 |
| mithro | Thank glasnt | 05:36 |
| xfxf | SamSagaZ: some of us fly to other conferences to help with other teams too - for example CarlFK lives in the US but helps out with Pycon Germany | 05:38 |
| SamSagaZ | oh thats cool | 05:38 |
| SamSagaZ | well, will try to join to this channel then, maybe can get some ideas and see if someone can help you too :) | 05:39 |
| mithro | SamSagaZ: Yeah, we try and get teams to mix it up so everyone is learning from everyone | 05:39 |
| SamSagaZ | open source community are great | 05:39 |
| SamSagaZ | goto sleep now, thanks for your time guys | 05:47 |
| xfxf | no worries, feel free to ask any questions, more than happy to help you setup things | 05:49 |
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| mithro | xfxf: ping? | 10:21 |
| mithro | CarlFK: I assume you aren't around.... | 10:22 |
| olasd | ý | 10:23 |
| olasd | no, not ý... | 10:24 |
| xfxf | mithro: pong | 10:24 |
| mithro | xfxf: How do I setup voctomix? | 10:24 |
| olasd | apt install voctomix? :) | 10:24 |
| xfxf | above, or pull it down from the repo, there's instructions included in terms of what dependencies it needs | 10:25 |
| xfxf | the scripts we used at pycon are here: https://github.com/xfxf/video-scripts/tree/master/pycon | 10:25 |
| tpb | Title: video-scripts/pycon at master · xfxf/video-scripts · GitHub (at github.com) | 10:25 |
| xfxf | it needs severe cleaning up, but each of the .sh script runs an element | 10:25 |
| xfxf | they assume the scripts live in ~/lca/video-scripts | 10:26 |
| xfxf | actually, cancel that, the latest commits aren't up there :/ | 10:26 |
| xfxf | use this: https://github.com/CarlFK/voctomix-outcasts | 10:26 |
| tpb | Title: GitHub - CarlFK/voctomix-outcasts (at github.com) | 10:26 |
| xfxf | ingest.py is the main one, constructs pipelines for various source ingest | 10:27 |
| mithro | So, I'm following the instructions and running test1.sh and all the video windows remain blank | 10:33 |
| mithro | No errors on the console or anything.... | 10:36 |
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| mithro | It looks like xv is broken on this computer.... | 10:51 |
| mithro | xfxf: What type of CPU power are you using for voctomix? | 10:54 |
| mithro | Hrm, Carl's test_720p seems to be running at 1080p.... | 10:56 |
| xfxf | mithro: i7's, either desktop class or HQ laptop class (i.e. high power/grunt) | 10:57 |
| xfxf | i avoid anything with a U series, which is pretty much every new laptop | 10:57 |
| mithro | What is the "U series" and what is wrong with it? | 11:02 |
| xfxf | U series i7's are what you find in most notebooks, they're the low power ones | 11:02 |
| xfxf | they're considerably less powerful | 11:03 |
| xfxf | although 7th gen (i.e. just released) U series i7's aren't too bad | 11:03 |
| xfxf | usually a 10-15% bump between generations for same clock speed | 11:04 |
| xfxf | mithro: if xv is broken, you can edit config.ini and change the voctogui rendering method | 11:05 |
| xfxf | there's a default ini it inherits from IIRC if you look through the voctomix source | 11:05 |
| mithro | So, voctomix appears to be ignoring Carl's config file... | 11:05 |
| xfxf | voctomix or voctocore? | 11:06 |
| mithro | voctocore | 11:06 |
| xfxf | and you're using the right command line parameter that tells it to use an external config file? | 11:06 |
| xfxf | if so, sounds like a bug, definitely worked for me | 11:06 |
| mithro | As far as I can see.... | 11:06 |
| xfxf | paste what you're using | 11:07 |
| mithro | It works with his light.ini, just not his 720p one... | 11:07 |
| xfxf | oh, right, i don't use his config.ini | 11:07 |
| xfxf | https://github.com/xfxf/video-scripts/blob/master/pycon/config.ini | 11:07 |
| tpb | Title: video-scripts/config.ini at master · xfxf/video-scripts · GitHub (at github.com) | 11:07 |
| mithro | Ahh, Carl can't spell | 11:08 |
| xfxf | lol, this is news? :P | 11:08 |
| mithro | He's specifying a non-existent config file... | 11:09 |
| mithro | And Carl complains about my lack of documentation | 11:15 |
| mithro | 720p is working fine it seems | 11:16 |
| mithro | So, how does one actually "run" voctocore / ingest / etc? | 11:19 |
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| mithro | and how does one actually record.... | 11:24 |
| mithro | xfxf: You run at 720p, right? | 11:26 |
| xfxf | yes | 11:39 |
| xfxf | you run voctocore which takes the ingests + stream saves | 11:39 |
| xfxf | everything is a seperate process that talks back to voctocore via tcp sockets | 11:39 |
| xfxf | the UI is decoupled and talks to the core, you can close the UI, does not affect recording | 11:40 |
| xfxf | you need the core + UI + ingests + a stream save process | 11:40 |
| xfxf | the voctocore documentation is a good place to start | 11:40 |
| mithro | xfxf: Yes, I know how voctomix is designed, it's based on my design for gst-switch | 12:02 |
| mithro | xfxf: What I want to know is how to manage the running processes | 12:02 |
| mithro | CarlFK uses dvsmon right? | 12:02 |
| mithro | It looks like the debconf-video guys are using systemd | 12:05 |
| xfxf | i have a script that starts everything | 12:34 |
| xfxf | it's my intention this monitoring stuff will also spawn/monitor processes | 12:35 |
| xfxf | herm, systemd will capture stdout/stderr, won't it? maybe that's half of the solution right there | 12:35 |
| xfxf | we used a screenrc file at LCA | 12:37 |
| xfxf | which is what CCC use | 12:37 |
| xfxf | https://github.com/xfxf/video-scripts/blob/master/pycon/screenrc-ts | 12:37 |
| tpb | Title: video-scripts/screenrc-ts at master · xfxf/video-scripts · GitHub (at github.com) | 12:37 |
| xfxf | i am not a huge fan of the solution, but it certainly works | 12:37 |
| CarlFK | mithro: im up | 13:19 |
| CarlFK | mithro: here is my production start thing https://github.com/CarlFK/dvsmon/blob/master/vocto-prod1.py | 13:21 |
| tpb | Title: dvsmon/vocto-prod1.py at master · CarlFK/dvsmon · GitHub (at github.com) | 13:21 |
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| tumbleweed | xfxf: incomplete, but based on the systemd scripts we used at the debconf cambridge miniconf https://anonscm.debian.org/cgit/debconf-video/ansible.git/ | 18:04 |
| tpb | Title: debconf-video/ansible - Ansible playbooks for the DebConf Video Team's machines (at anonscm.debian.org) | 18:04 |
| tumbleweed | also, got approval for LCA, just need to make concrete plans now... | 18:04 |
| CarlFK | tumbleweed: woot!!! I'm going too | 18:13 |
| CarlFK | You 'might' want to fly in/out of chicago and join me for a 30 hour trip | 18:13 |
| CarlFK | Hmm.. that gets you in/out of MEL - not Hobart. hmm.. | 18:14 |
| tumbleweed | I'm going ot try to do SF -> LCA -> ZA -> BRU (fosdem) -> SF | 18:14 |
| CarlFK | http://www.qantas.com/us/en/flight-deals/international/flights-to-melbourne/san-francisco.html/sfo/mel/economy/lowest | 18:14 |
| tpb | Title: From San Francisco to Melbourne (at www.qantas.com) | 18:14 |
| CarlFK | Oh nice | 18:14 |
| tumbleweed | VA also does SF -> MEL I think | 18:15 |
| CarlFK | I think so | 18:16 |
| CarlFK | when you last used Vocto (mini dc in ...Cambridge?) how did you display the cut times? (or did you? | 18:17 |
| CarlFK | I have only skimmed the ansible stuff. looks like I need to get familiar with ansible | 18:17 |
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| tumbleweed | we don't have sheets like you, so we didn't need to display them | 18:45 |
| CarlFK | any advice on how to display it? | 18:49 |
| tumbleweed | tail -f ? | 18:49 |
| CarlFK | other than "open a term, run the command..." | 18:49 |
| tumbleweed | even journalctl -f | 18:49 |
| CarlFK | does everything else start up on boot? | 18:50 |
| tumbleweed | everything except voctogui | 18:50 |
| tumbleweed | (including recording) | 18:50 |
| CarlFK | how do you start gui? | 18:50 |
| tumbleweed | from a menu (now that it's there) or alt-f2 voctogui | 18:51 |
| tumbleweed | however, we ran out of time, and never actually ran these playbooks to build a voctomix machine | 18:51 |
| tumbleweed | so there are likely bugs | 18:51 |
| CarlFK | lol | 18:51 |
| tumbleweed | the playbooks were built from the machine we had done by hand | 18:51 |
| CarlFK | I am up for vetting them in the next week | 18:52 |
| CarlFK | do you think I should use my pile of physical machines, or start deploying to a bunch of containers ? | 18:52 |
| tumbleweed | this also means we never actually got around to the more dynamic parts of it (like putting the right room names / machine IPs in config files) | 18:53 |
| tumbleweed | don't see containers being useful here, except for testing the playbooks | 18:53 |
| CarlFK | "there are likely bugs" - that's why I am thinking starting with containers - I can start over quicker. I think | 18:54 |
| tumbleweed | yeah, I would test this in VMs of some description | 18:54 |
| tumbleweed | there's going to be work that has to be done | 18:54 |
| CarlFK | I think either that work gets done 'now' and we use it for LCA, or we flounder around and do lots of work and then fall back to dvsmon/screenrc and ... more flondering | 18:56 |
| tumbleweed | yeah, I'd be keen to make this work for LCA | 18:58 |
| tumbleweed | I assume LCA is going to use some different pipelines, though? | 18:59 |
| tumbleweed | (e.g. capture with opsis + USB audio rather than blackmagic) | 18:59 |
| tumbleweed | I guess the trick there is to get that pipeline into vocotmix-outcasts | 18:59 |
| CarlFK | good Q. no idea really, but I would think once we get DCs setup working, it will be 'easy' to tune it to whatever details like that | 19:07 |
| CarlFK | I am find using bm cards for camera/audio | 19:07 |
| CarlFK | so I'll likely make use of it regardless | 19:07 |
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| xfxf | tumbleweed: awesome news! when are you booking flights? | 21:11 |
| xfxf | and in terms of improving the existing process/system, yes, i'm absolutely up for that | 21:11 |
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| mithro | I was playing with my magwell usb 3.0 sdi device and it seems to be working pretty well. | 21:18 |
| mithro | Doesn't need any drivers | 21:19 |
| mithro | I think they are going to be good solution for portable SDI capture with a laptop | 21:20 |
| mithro | Still think SDI is the wrong solution though | 21:21 |
| CarlFK | mithro: thanks for the PRs | 21:29 |
| mithro | CarlFK: can I complain about dvsmon now? | 21:30 |
| CarlFK | mithro: sure. wait... aren't you one of the devs ;) | 21:30 |
| mithro | Nope | 21:30 |
| mithro | CarlFK: Not putting my name to that :-P | 21:31 |
| CarlFK | lol | 21:31 |
| CarlFK | mithro: do you know what the wx package name is I need? | 21:32 |
| mithro | python-wxgtk3.<something> I think? | 21:32 |
| SamSagaZ_ | guys, wich cheap camera recommend me to use with the hdmi2usb and timvideo? | 21:39 |
| CarlFK | SamSagaZ_: we don't recommend cheap camera ;) | 21:43 |
| CarlFK | SamSagaZ_: in 2009 I made the mistake of using $250 cameras. | 21:43 |
| CarlFK | the videos were good enough, but 20 volunteers spent 30 hours for a total of 600 man hours | 21:44 |
| CarlFK | for that amount of effort, it would be nice if the quality of the video was nicer | 21:45 |
| tumbleweed | mostly you want a big lens that captures lots of light (conference speakers tend to not be very well lit) | 21:46 |
| CarlFK | SamSagaZ_: the beauty of vocto is it will work with anything gstreamer can interface with | 21:48 |
| CarlFK | so if you can find someone with a camera, and figure out how to get gstreamer to display the stream (not save/play later) we can figure out how to use it | 21:49 |
| CarlFK | so first see who has a camera .. and see if it can work. | 21:49 |
| tumbleweed | the trick there might be "with the hdmi2usb" - it doesn't handle interlaced HDMI capture yet, IIRC | 21:49 |
| tumbleweed | so it needs to be a camera with progressive HDMI output | 21:50 |
| CarlFK | yeah, I was 1/2 ignoring that ;) | 21:50 |
| CarlFK | or.. check craig's list for Panasonic DVX100 [ab] | 21:50 |
| CarlFK | and find a firewire card | 21:50 |
| xfxf | lets not promote firewire ;) | 21:58 |
| tumbleweed | I think Debian has AG-HPX170s. I'm suprised to see that those are still selling around $1k second hand | 21:58 |
| xfxf | SamSagaZ_: most of us use 'prosumer' grade cameras that can do 720p out, and HDMI2USB capture devices or blackmagic HDMI PCI-E capture cards (requires a desktop PC) | 22:00 |
| xfxf | and a HDMI2USB to capture the presenter at the front (it accepts HDMI input and output, so we stick it in the middle of the presenter and the projector) | 22:01 |
| xfxf | tumbleweed: there are some cameras that actually do USB UVC (h.264) - some JVC. i'm keen to give something like that a go, would avoid the need for a capture device | 22:02 |
| tumbleweed | Debian (and I think CarlFK) do blackmagic SDI PCI-E (not HDMI) | 22:02 |
| tumbleweed | SDI is works really well in our experience so far | 22:02 |
| tumbleweed | just *so* much nicer than firewire :P | 22:02 |
| xfxf | indeed | 22:02 |
| tumbleweed | I seem to recall cameras that did RTMP (h.264) too | 22:03 |
| xfxf | i'm sticking with HDMI and non-blackmagic primarily because i jump on a plane for many things I record, so desktop machines are out of the question | 22:04 |
| xfxf | own a bunch of blackmagic SDI gear too though | 22:04 |
| xfxf | tumbleweed: yeah i've seen that as well, probably not too hard to have voctocore natively ingest that | 22:04 |
| tumbleweed | that USB SDI capture thing mithro was talking about seems nice for that | 22:04 |
| tumbleweed | HDMI just gets tricky with long runs | 22:05 |
| tumbleweed | and the number of things that aren't quite HDMI that run on it (i.e. the DVI we actually deal with) | 22:05 |
| CarlFK | xfxf: did you want me to bring 2 cameras? I have 2 that the CCC says will do streaming over usb/eathernet: JVC GY-HM200 4KCAM | 22:08 |
| CarlFK | I tried to get some details of how ... and all I got was something about nginx that I didn't understand so I gave up | 22:09 |
| tumbleweed | o_O the ethernet is via USB | 22:11 |
| tumbleweed | it supprots ftp lol | 22:11 |
| xfxf | CarlFK: yes, please. i'm wondering how the 60p will look interpolated at 25 tho | 22:13 |
| mithro | I really wish I had the time to fix the HDMI stack to solve the camera problem. | 22:13 |
| xfxf | i know with the firewire cameras the difference in the power cycle meant rooms with fluro lights would show up in video as all flashy | 22:13 |
| mithro | I would really like to get the Canon cameras working | 22:14 |
| xfxf | but tis worth a go | 22:14 |
| CarlFK | tumbleweed: did you find a manual? | 22:14 |
| tumbleweed | CarlFK: no, | 22:14 |
| tumbleweed | http://pro.jvc.com/prof/attributes/specs.jsp?model_id=MDL102319&feature_id=03 | 22:14 |
| xfxf | mithro: i bought 2 more scalers, d/w about it for now, this is a workable solution | 22:14 |
| tpb | Title: JVC Pro Specifications (at pro.jvc.com) | 22:14 |
| xfxf | but yes having scaling built into the HDMI2USB would be rad | 22:14 |
| xfxf | but there are solutions for now | 22:14 |
| xfxf | oooh hang on a second | 22:15 |
| xfxf | the specs for that say there is a "NTSC" (60p) and "PAL" (50p) mode | 22:15 |
| xfxf | CarlFK: can you confirm whether you can actually change the mode in the settings? | 22:15 |
| CarlFK | xfxf: if I can't, do you want me to not bring them? | 22:16 |
| xfxf | bring them anyway but the PAL mode makes me about 50x more interested | 22:16 |
| CarlFK | If I am bringing them anyway, we can fiddle with them in person | 22:17 |
| xfxf | good point | 22:17 |
| CarlFK | right now they are packed away | 22:18 |
| tumbleweed | any non-consumer camera surely does NTSC & PAL | 22:18 |
| xfxf | you've got a pelican case for them? | 22:18 |
| xfxf | tumbleweed: my experience is most don't :( | 22:18 |
| xfxf | certainly every canon i've ever used is one or the other, and it's usually not as easy as a firmware swap either (although logically that's all it is) | 22:19 |
| tumbleweed | :/ | 22:19 |
| xfxf | well, excepting the hv?0's that have the firmware hack to change it | 22:20 |
| xfxf | but they're consumer cameras | 22:20 |
| tumbleweed | I swear I had a hv something camera that had configurable frame rate | 22:20 |
| CarlFK | GY-HM200U / GY-HM170U Full Operation Manual (184 pages) http://pro.jvc.com/prof/attributes/inst_man.jsp?model_id=MDL102319&feature_id=11 | 22:20 |
| xfxf | the hv's do if you firmware hack them, windows tool to toggle it? | 22:20 |
| tpb | Title: JVC Pro Operation Manuals (at pro.jvc.com) | 22:20 |
| xfxf | CarlFK: sif anybody reads manuals | 22:21 |
| tumbleweed | page 47 says yes | 22:25 |
| xfxf | we found the guy who reads manuals | 22:25 |
| xfxf | and great | 22:25 |
| CarlFK | :) | 22:25 |
| xfxf | so yes please bring them CarlFK, I was going to buy another canon XA20, i am going to hold off now and look at yours | 22:25 |
| CarlFK | tumbleweed: find out how to get it to stream over ethernet please. | 22:25 |
| xfxf | CarlFK: AFAIK you need to buy a compatible ethernet dongle? | 22:26 |
| CarlFK | I have that. | 22:26 |
| xfxf | oh neat | 22:26 |
| CarlFK | I can see in my dhcp server logs that it gets an IP | 22:26 |
| tumbleweed | CarlFK: you give it a URL and it will RTSP stream to it | 22:26 |
| CarlFK | how do I "give" | 22:26 |
| xfxf | CarlFK: easy way to test that is probably YT streaming, it'll give you a RTSP endpoint | 22:27 |
| tumbleweed | on the Live Streaming menu | 22:27 |
| xfxf | CarlFK: it probably has a web interface on the IP it gets - or in a menu? | 22:27 |
| xfxf | ^ | 22:27 |
| CarlFK | oh gross. I have to dink with the joy sick? | 22:27 |
| tumbleweed | it does a few different protocols | 22:27 |
| tumbleweed | I wonder if they all require distination addresses | 22:27 |
| tumbleweed | [Setting Values: RMPEG2-TS/UDP, MPEG2- | 22:27 |
| tumbleweed | TS/TCP, RTSP/RTP, ZIXI, RTMP] | 22:27 |
| xfxf | CarlFK: i'd be seeing whether it has a web server first, i'd be surprised if it didn't | 22:27 |
| xfxf | oh neat, options | 22:28 |
| xfxf | hey CarlFK, i'll swap you those cameras for two DVX100B's | 22:28 |
| tumbleweed | To access via a web browser, set to “On”. | 22:28 |
| tumbleweed | [Setting Values: ROn, Off] | 22:28 |
| xfxf | one of them only has 2 hours tape time, what a bargain! :P | 22:28 |
| tumbleweed | there you go | 22:28 |
| xfxf | sweet | 22:28 |
| CarlFK | xfxf: I have a bunch of peli cases. and a pile of foam. need to figure out if I really want them both in one case. | 22:29 |
| xfxf | CarlFK: I don't know how big they are but I tend to travel with my XA20's on carry on luggage because I don't trust airlines | 22:29 |
| xfxf | i put all the cables + clothes + etc into luggage | 22:29 |
| CarlFK | I may find a soft bag that will hold both of them, take them onto the plan and check my clothes | 22:30 |
| tumbleweed | CarlFK: you'll need a USB ethernet dongle for it too | 22:30 |
| CarlFK | tumbleweed: got dongle, even saw the camera hit my dhcp server | 22:30 |
| CarlFK | I like the "turn on webserver" I think I can manage that | 22:31 |
| xfxf | tumbleweed: what tripods does debconf use? | 22:33 |
| xfxf | i'm well overdue for upgrading mine | 22:33 |
| xfxf | i'd imagine i'd have similar criteria; needs to be solid enough + have a decent enough head so use of it isn't terrible (i.e. jerky movement) but needs to be light enough to ship/travel with | 22:34 |
| tumbleweed | we only travel once a year, so our equipment isn't as light as it could be | 22:34 |
| tumbleweed | E-image AT-7402B according to https://wiki.debconf.org/wiki/Videoteam/HardwareInventory | 22:35 |
| tpb | Title: Videoteam/HardwareInventory - Wiki (at wiki.debconf.org) | 22:35 |
| tumbleweed | we need new kit - here's the wish list https://wiki.debian.org/Teams/DebConf/Video/VideoTeamDocs/NewVideoTeamHardware | 22:36 |
| tpb | Title: Teams/DebConf/Video/VideoTeamDocs/NewVideoTeamHardware - Debian Wiki (at wiki.debian.org) | 22:36 |
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