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| xfxf | CarlFK: whee, I just discovered the official conf json has some of the miniconf sessions in the wrong rooms | 08:16 |
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| xfxf | i was looking at some of these recorded videos and wondering WTF had happened | 08:17 |
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| jea | yay for zookeeper | 10:09 |
| xfxf | indeed | 10:21 |
| jea | those talks were part of the room swaps that happened on tuesday | 10:24 |
| jea | i'm almost surprised we had a schedule at all | 10:25 |
| xfxf | yeah from what i hear rescheduling in zookeepr is a PITA | 10:27 |
| xfxf | miniconf's are always a headache | 10:27 |
| xfxf | as the data is never right inside the official schedule | 10:27 |
| xfxf | i've made noises to next years organiser that maybe possibly miniconfs should be using the same scheduling system and not a seperate one | 10:28 |
| jea | yeah, that makes a lot of sense to me | 10:28 |
| jea | I don't see why they can't be done within the same place | 10:28 |
| xfxf | CarlFK: did you end up trying that dv pipeline? | 10:30 |
| xfxf | CarlFK: i can probably bang in a camera to a computer later tonight and tweak if it didn't | 10:30 |
| jea | xfxf: did you need clarification about the CLS videos still? I can help with that | 10:30 |
| xfxf | yeah, shot Donna an email | 10:56 |
| jea | ok | 11:00 |
| jea | basically there was the welcome and then some talks that were recorded and can be released, as well as the closing. I think I reviewed the videos for it and marked the sheet up | 11:01 |
| xfxf | oh right you were in the room, weren't you | 11:06 |
| xfxf | some of them were moved to 'borked', was that you? | 11:07 |
| jea | yeah, i was in the room | 11:07 |
| xfxf | usually when things are moved there it's usually 'don't release these as we were told not to' or 'something is broken with the recording, so don't release it' | 11:07 |
| xfxf | do you still have a veyepar login? | 11:08 |
| jea | i can't remember if i moved them or not. i did ask CarlFK about it at one point and he mentioned borked | 11:08 |
| jea | yep | 11:08 |
| xfxf | if so, you should be able to log in and move the recordings you think are right to 'edit' | 11:08 |
| xfxf | would you mind doing that? | 11:08 |
| jea | sure | 11:08 |
| xfxf | i'm a little confused :) | 11:08 |
| xfxf | ta! | 11:08 |
| xfxf | well, either 'edit' if you want me to double check or 'encode' if you think the edits are right | 11:08 |
| xfxf | my encode box here is running everything else so it'll grab them automatically | 11:09 |
| jea | this one is in the wrong room - http://veyepar.nextdayvideo.com/main/C/lca/S/lca2016/L/r2mix/D/02/s/0/E/10785/ | 11:11 |
| tpb | Title: veyepar: Open information: Documenting data and methods (at veyepar.nextdayvideo.com) | 11:11 |
| jea | should be in costa theatre, i think | 11:11 |
| xfxf | CarlFK: i have to admit i like the latest feature you've added of encoding all raw files to low quality webm + sticking them up on your rackspace box, makes doing this remotely actually a thing we can do | 11:11 |
| xfxf | right | 11:11 |
| xfxf | not surprised, found another earlier | 11:11 |
| jea | yeah | 11:12 |
| xfxf | oh | 11:12 |
| xfxf | actually | 11:12 |
| xfxf | that talk is a dup | 11:12 |
| xfxf | i think | 11:12 |
| xfxf | yep | 11:12 |
| xfxf | http://veyepar.nextdayvideo.com/main/C/lca/S/lca2016/ | 11:12 |
| tpb | Title: veyepar - Show: linux.conf.au lca 2016 (at veyepar.nextdayvideo.com) | 11:13 |
| xfxf | it's there twice | 11:13 |
| xfxf | nfi why | 11:13 |
| jea | ah ok. could have happened during the scheduling changes | 11:13 |
| xfxf | my guess is they removed the old talk + added a new one | 11:13 |
| xfxf | so it has a new ID | 11:13 |
| jea | of course | 11:13 |
| xfxf | i'd complain but i dealt with a conference once who refused to supply any data, i entered it by hand, then they ended up changing the scheduling completely during the day because of some speakers not rocking up | 11:14 |
| xfxf | in comparison, this is fine ;) | 11:14 |
| jea | that would be horrible | 11:14 |
| xfxf | yeah, they didn't keep track of it either | 11:14 |
| xfxf | and the talk slots didn't even line up | 11:15 |
| xfxf | it's always fun trying to explain the complexities of scheduling data to somebody who only sees the end result, though | 11:15 |
| xfxf | i mean, how hard could it be? you just hit record and upload to youtube, right? | 11:15 |
| jea | haha | 11:16 |
| xfxf | hmm | 11:16 |
| xfxf | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zb-iQx0bguc | 11:16 |
| xfxf | i think the wrong one got published | 11:16 |
| xfxf | that's mostly blank | 11:16 |
| xfxf | i'll fix that talk now | 11:16 |
| jea | that is rather black | 11:16 |
| xfxf | done, gone | 11:18 |
| xfxf | yeah, there were two uploaded to youtube | 11:19 |
| xfxf | for the dup talks | 11:19 |
| xfxf | that one was the wrong room one | 11:19 |
| xfxf | if you're dealing with the clsXlca ones | 11:19 |
| xfxf | if there's already a 'host' link on youtube and it looks OK, you can stick that one to 'richard' | 11:20 |
| xfxf | we're using richard for the webm encodes | 11:20 |
| xfxf | otherwise, just stick it into 'edit' if you want me to double check or 'encode' if you're happy for it to go into the encode queue | 11:20 |
| xfxf | i'll review everything at the 'review 1' step later on anyway | 11:20 |
| xfxf | if rooms are wrong, let me know, i'll fix the data + reassociate files | 11:20 |
| xfxf | (unsure if you know but richard was the API part of pyvideo - the author likes naming his projects after real names for some reason) | 11:22 |
| jea | where is the host link? on the talk page in veyepar? | 11:22 |
| jea | I had forgotten what richard was, but that makes sense now | 11:22 |
| xfxf | two ways | 11:22 |
| xfxf | if you're looking at the general 'status' page | 11:22 |
| jea | oh, i see a host link now | 11:23 |
| xfxf | and you click on one of the statuses | 11:23 |
| xfxf | http://veyepar.nextdayvideo.com/main/C/lca/S/lca2016/s/0/ | 11:23 |
| tpb | Title: veyepar - Show: linux.conf.au lca 2016 (at veyepar.nextdayvideo.com) | 11:23 |
| xfxf | the host column where it shows 'Y' | 11:23 |
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| xfxf | or if you click on a talk, there's a link in there | 11:23 |
| xfxf | yeah, veyepar is very very functional but i'm not a huge fan of it's UI either | 11:23 |
| xfxf | but i'm used to it | 11:23 |
| jea | I might just start doing a UI for it | 11:23 |
| xfxf | i care more about workflow then pretty | 11:23 |
| xfxf | the workflor works | 11:23 |
| xfxf | haha | 11:23 |
| xfxf | don't you have your own? | 11:24 |
| xfxf | i was going to poke at it when i have some time | 11:24 |
| xfxf | i'm sure there's ideas from each which are good | 11:24 |
| jea | I do have my own, but I don't really mind which is used. I just want something that is simple to use but has lots of functionality | 11:24 |
| xfxf | yeah, i wrote my own before Carl started veyepar | 11:24 |
| xfxf | but Carl hacks on this almost every day | 11:24 |
| xfxf | i can't compete with that | 11:24 |
| xfxf | so i help Carl :) | 11:24 |
| jea | I don't think I could keep up with that | 11:25 |
| jea | I might keep mine going as a super simplified version for single talks or something | 11:25 |
| xfxf | but yeah, definitely needs some front-end work if more people want to adopt it | 11:25 |
| xfxf | once you're used to it though then you kinda get used to how it operates and it no longer becomes a major problem | 11:25 |
| xfxf | i've got some plans for another tool to be used by user groups | 11:26 |
| xfxf | which will be simplified | 11:26 |
| xfxf | but, like we need a third tool :) | 11:26 |
| jea | user groups is more what I think my tool would be alright for. veyepar is good for really big events I can tell | 11:27 |
| xfxf | yeah, it's designed for scale | 11:27 |
| xfxf | i tend not to use it for user groups ever as there's too much complexity | 11:28 |
| xfxf | carl uses it for everything, though | 11:28 |
| jea | Putting one or two videos through it would be a bit too much I think | 11:28 |
| jea | it would do it well, but it would be a lot of overhead | 11:28 |
| xfxf | indeed | 11:28 |
| xfxf | half day single track events is where it starts to make sense imho | 11:29 |
| xfxf | that said with some UI adjustments and an alternative/simplified workflow on top of what's there currently i think it could work well | 11:29 |
| xfxf | but i've been talking about doing that for ages and i haven't yet so i'll shut up :) | 11:30 |
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| jea | I'm going to start doing more work on the software side of things, so maybe I can incorporate some of your ideas into it | 11:32 |
| xfxf | ya, i've got some plans involving that and the opsis's, will ping you when i get to the post-prod side | 11:33 |
| jea | cool | 11:35 |
| jea | xfxf: is there a way to dig up some extra videos? There is about 30mins worth missing from http://veyepar.nextdayvideo.com/main/C/lca/S/lca2016/L/r2mix/D/02/s/0/E/10805/ | 11:43 |
| tpb | Title: veyepar: clsXlca Lightning Talks (at veyepar.nextdayvideo.com) | 11:43 |
| jea | I know that there were more talks after the last video that is shown in the list | 11:43 |
| xfxf | click the 'get this' button at the bottom and click save | 12:01 |
| xfxf | it'll add the next raw file it knows about after the selected ones | 12:01 |
| xfxf | repeat to add more files | 12:01 |
| jea | ah, that does it | 12:03 |
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