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| mithro | hey rohitksingh | 02:38 |
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| rohitksingh | mithro: Hi! | 03:02 |
| mithro | rohitksingh: so, while I'm trying to figure out how to reimburse aps for the GSoC reunion flights I should also figure out how to reimburse you for the hardware / shipping / etc | 03:03 |
| rohitksingh | mithro: Okay. I think paypal should be convenient | 03:07 |
| mithro | rohitksingh: I think you sent me something previously, could we drop it all into a Google spreadsheet for my records? | 03:07 |
| rohitksingh | mithro: Great! I'll add everything into a google sheet | 03:08 |
| mithro | rohitksingh: thanks | 03:44 |
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| shenki | mithro: hey, are you around on the weekend of the 22nd/23rd? | 06:08 |
| mithro | shenki: which month? | 06:11 |
| mithro | BTW - what do people think of https://botbot.me/freenode/timvideos/ ? | 06:11 |
| tpb | Title: Logs for #timvideos | BotBot.me [o__o] (at botbot.me) | 06:11 |
| shenki | mithro: nov | 06:14 |
| shenki | mithro: is it indexed by search engines? | 06:15 |
| mithro | shenki: let me check, the 24th if my birthday and my parents and high school best friend will be in town around then | 06:15 |
| shenki | mithro: okay. if you're busy that's fine, but mandy and i are thinking of coming to town that weekend | 06:16 |
| shenki | mithro: if your couch is free we would ask for that, but if you're busy, then no matter :) | 06:16 |
| mithro | were you planning on staying at my place? If someone else isn't using it, I'm 100% happy to have you guys | 06:16 |
| shenki | mithro: well, if it wasn't free we will still come to town | 06:18 |
| shenki | mithro: but if it is then we will take it :) | 06:18 |
| shenki | mithro: perhaps we could take you out somewhere for your birthday on the weekend? | 06:19 |
| shenki | mithro: we were thinking of going to watch cricket on sunday afternoon/evening, but no plans aside from that | 06:20 |
| mithro | okay | 06:22 |
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| mithro | shenki: so, I just checked with a bunch of people and it looks like the 22nd/23rd should be free and so is my queen size sofa bed | 07:12 |
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| shenki | mithro: thanks! i'll add it to tripit :D | 07:33 |
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| mithro | shenki: awesome! so I'm going to assume your busy from about midday on Sunday | 11:56 |
| mithro | shenki: should we block out Saturday to do some cypress code hacking? | 11:56 |
| shenki | mithro: how about i come over on friday evening, and we hack friday? mandy won't be in until saturday lunchtime | 11:57 |
| shenki | i was going to come over saturday, but i didn't consider hacking :) | 11:57 |
| mithro | well, an evening is less than a day :P | 11:57 |
| mithro | you've both been to Sydney before? | 11:57 |
| shenki | a couple of times | 11:57 |
| mithro | shenki: you could come over Thursday night and we both take Friday off? :P | 11:58 |
| shenki | hrm, perhaps. i'm going to be in canberra, so i should stay there for the week | 11:58 |
| shenki | it might be more realistic to take monday off for hacking, then fly home monday evening? | 11:59 |
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| shenki | im pretty tired. it might be easier to make plans tomorrow, once my brain is back in this timezone :) | 12:04 |
| mithro | shenki: that could work | 12:23 |
| mithro | shenki: I'm happy to do what ever gets the most hacking done | 12:23 |
| mithro | shenki: I ordered some more small HDMI screens to try | 12:24 |
| mithro | shenki: sure, happy to figure it out tomorrow | 12:27 |
| mithro | tija_: ping? | 12:29 |
| aps | mithro: what do you work on at your job? | 12:37 |
| mithro | aps: Google Chrome | 12:38 |
| mithro | If you want all the dirty details, take a look at https://codereview.chromium.org/user/mithro :P | 12:39 |
| tpb | Title: Issues for mithro - Code Review (at codereview.chromium.org) | 12:39 |
| aps | mithro: great! You are the right person to talk to then. When are you guys going to fix the scroll (make it smooth)? :P | 12:40 |
| mithro | aps: I'm kinda working on that peripherally / in general - but do you have a specific example that is bad? | 12:41 |
| mithro | aps: we should be generally on par with every other browser? | 12:42 |
| aps | mithro: These days, I'm doing an internship at a web dev firm. So this scroll problem comes to bite me whenever I create a website having a parallax scrolling image (using skrollr JS). While it looks perfect in firefox, it looks very jittery/jumpy on chrome since the scroll is not "smooth". I mean it jumps a few pixels when you scroll. | 12:43 |
| mithro | aps: got a simple demo page? | 12:44 |
| mithro | aps: scrolling is kind of complex in that you could be ending up going through a bunch of different scrolling paths depending on what you are doing | 12:44 |
| mithro | aps: if you do have a simple demo which shows this, please do log a bug at http://crbug.com/ | 12:45 |
| tpb | Title: Issues - chromium - An open-source project to help move the web forward. - Google Project Hosting (at crbug.com) | 12:45 |
| mithro | aps: you can even cc [email protected] on it and I'll make sure it ends up at the right person | 12:45 |
| aps | mithro: this website for example - http://www.kenhorizon.com/ - if you see the image above "About us" section and scroll really slow, you'll notice it. and if you open same thing on firefox, you'll see the difference. | 12:46 |
| tpb | Title: Ken Horizon (at www.kenhorizon.com) | 12:46 |
| aps | mithro: apparently, there is a hidden "smooth scrolling" feature that could be activated - https://plus.google.com/+RobertKoritnik/posts/9rCL4QwMbqf | 12:48 |
| aps | but anyway I can't tell my website visitors to do that | 12:48 |
| aps | mithro: basically this SO is same problem that I am facing - http://stackoverflow.com/questions/19349245/enable-smooth-scrolling-for-my-website-in-all-browsers | 12:50 |
| tpb | Title: javascript - Enable smooth scrolling for my website in all browsers - Stack Overflow (at stackoverflow.com) | 12:50 |
| mithro | aps: hrm, I see the same "jumpyness" in firefox on my Linux laptop | 12:50 |
| aps | hrm | 12:51 |
| mithro | oh, do you mean dragging by the scroll bar? | 12:52 |
| aps | no, that is still fine. I'm talking about mouse wheel scroll. | 12:53 |
| mithro | or by clicking those triangles | 12:53 |
| mithro | I don't have a mouse with a mouse wheel here | 12:53 |
| aps | yeah, so you cant see the effect. | 12:53 |
| mithro | so, what is the exact reproduction method? | 12:54 |
| CarlFK | hey aps | 12:55 |
| mithro | aps: does pressing pg-up/pg-dwn have a similar effect? | 12:56 |
| CarlFK | mithro: 2 finger drag on my lenovo does same as mouse wheel I think | 12:56 |
| CarlFK | on my lenovo touch pad | 12:56 |
| aps | open this website - http://www.kenhorizon.com/ - in chrome. scroll the minimum amount you can and you'll notice that content "jumps" about 40px or so. In firefox, they rather slide. | 12:57 |
| tpb | Title: Ken Horizon (at www.kenhorizon.com) | 12:57 |
| aps | CarlFK: hi | 12:57 |
| aps | page up/down is different as it is supposed to jump | 12:57 |
| aps | mithro: btw what Firefox version you are running? | 12:58 |
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| mithro | aps: write the reproduction instructions in terms of things I physically do to my computer | 12:58 |
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| aps | mithro: there are not a specific set of steps as such. You just open any website and scroll using mouse. When you scroll by very little amounts, you see that content shifts in a rather abrupt manner. | 13:03 |
| aps | mithro: search if full of relevant posts - https://www.google.co.in/search?q=chrome+scroll+not+smooth | 13:03 |
| tpb | Title: chrome scroll not smooth - Google Search (at www.google.co.in) | 13:03 |
| aps | s/if/is | 13:03 |
| mithro | aps: how do you "scroll by very little amounts" - are you dragging the scroll bar? are you pressing the down arrow? are you using a touch screen? | 13:04 |
| aps | mithro: no, just spin mouse wheel by the minimum amount you can | 13:04 |
| mithro | aps: almost all mouse wheels scroll in discrete amounts | 13:04 |
| aps | yeah that is true, but this discrete shift is done in Firefox in a smooth way IE the elements slide to the new position, but in chrome it just shifts suddenly | 13:06 |
| aps | gah, it's tough to explain. you need to see for yourself | 13:06 |
| CarlFK | I see it with 2 finger drag - which I think is what that action is called | 13:07 |
| aps | yeah, that also works | 13:08 |
| aps | btw you can enable smooth scrolling hidden flag in chrome on linux | 13:08 |
| mithro | aps: so, there are two options right, it gets a "scroll now by amount x" event. It can either jump (and thus get the lowest latency) or it can kind of animate down (a thus get the highest smoothness) | 13:10 |
| aps | yes | 13:10 |
| aps | mithro: you can enable smooth flag here - chrome://flags/#enable-smooth-scrolling - I haven't seen it in action though | 13:11 |
| aps | this is available only on Linux for now | 13:11 |
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| mithro | aps: so you can get the second option in Chrome by taking complete control of scrolling in your javascript | 13:12 |
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| aps | we can? how exactly? (If you don't have to get to bed now) | 13:13 |
| mithro | aps: but it means if any part of your javascript is slow, then the scrolling will probably not be smooth | 13:13 |
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| mithro | aps: I do have to get to bed now, but basically you disable scrolling on your page and then just move the elements yourself in response to the scroll / mouse events | 13:14 |
| aps | ah, that. | 13:14 |
| aps | Anyway, I think it is generally a *good* feature to implement since it makes user experience a bit better. | 13:15 |
| aps | I try to use as little JS as I could in my websites | 13:15 |
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| mithro | aps: depends on how you define user experience :) | 13:19 |
| aps | ha | 13:19 |
| aps | my boss does that way *sobs* | 13:19 |
| mithro | aps: IE if latency is your proxy for user experience then the smooth scroll option is worse | 13:20 |
| mithro | aps: yeah, sorry | 13:21 |
| aps | it's okay. I have learned to live with it or find ways around it. | 13:23 |
| mithro | aps: scrolling on the web is a *huge* mess | 13:29 |
| mithro | aps: is your website "touch enabled" | 13:33 |
| aps | mithro: not exactly. And mobile theme is a different theme. | 13:35 |
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