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| mithro | anyone alive in here? | 03:48 |
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| techman83 | mithro: about to leave my desk, but yes :) | 03:48 |
| Niharika | Me too. | 03:50 |
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| mithro | Hey CarlFK | 04:03 |
| mithro | hi Niharika | 04:03 |
| Niharika | Hi mithro. | 04:04 |
| mithro | Niharika: I wanted to catch up and find out how your project is going | 04:04 |
| CarlFK | hi all 0 just got into hotel in Ohio - I think it is midnight | 04:05 |
| Niharika | mithro: Sure. It´s going good. I have two major tasks left to do now. | 04:05 |
| Niharika | A) Put the app on a server. | 04:05 |
| Niharika | B) Connect it to the streaming-system. | 04:05 |
| Niharika | I´ll need a bit of help from skay for both. She said she´ll be able to help today or tomorrow. :) | 04:06 |
| mithro | Niharika: I also wanted to suggest that you can ask here and in other places for help | 04:06 |
| mithro | Niharika: your mentor isn't the only one who can help you | 04:06 |
| Niharika | mithro: Okay. | 04:07 |
| mithro | Niharika: also I wasn't able to comment on your blog post | 04:07 |
| mithro | Niharika: there are also the #django and #python IRC channels which can be helpful too | 04:07 |
| Niharika | mithro: I know. Sorry about that. It doesn´t support comments. | 04:07 |
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| Niharika | mithro: Yes, I take help on #django mostly. | 04:07 |
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| tvCommitBot | [streaming-system] mithro pushed 2 new commits to master: http://git.io/SD8i2A | 04:33 |
| tvCommitBot | streaming-system/master 2d2aed8 Tim 'mithro' Ansell: Made config.py support JSON with comments.... | 04:33 |
| tvCommitBot | streaming-system/master bc0d527 Tim 'mithro' Ansell: Using name ircchannel rather then just "channel". | 04:33 |
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| tvCommitBot | [streaming-system] mithro pushed 4 new commits to master: http://git.io/7D268A | 05:23 |
| tvCommitBot | streaming-system/master 1ffcf04 Tim 'mithro' Ansell: Updating pycon2internal format for PyOhio. | 05:23 |
| tvCommitBot | streaming-system/master 041b6cb Tim 'mithro' Ansell: Hacking in pycon schedule format support. | 05:23 |
| tvCommitBot | streaming-system/master 5e277c4 Tim 'mithro' Ansell: Removing tabs from pycon2internal.py | 05:23 |
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| tija | shenki: there? | 05:25 |
| shenki | tija: hello | 05:26 |
| tija | shenki: Hi | 05:26 |
| shenki | tija: re you question earlier, i was asking if you could reply to all of the in-line comments i made | 05:26 |
| tija | shenki: on Git itself right? | 05:27 |
| shenki | tija: on github, yeah | 05:33 |
| tija | shenki: okay thanks! | 05:33 |
| shenki | just mention if you're going to fix the issue, or explain why you disagree | 05:33 |
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| tvCommitBot | [streaming-system] mithro pushed 1 new commit to master: http://git.io/cZKtbw | 05:33 |
| tvCommitBot | streaming-system/master a5105c5 Tim 'mithro' Ansell: Spliting into seperate javascript blocks. | 05:33 |
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| mithro | CarlFK: poke? | 05:55 |
| CarlFK | mithro: here | 05:55 |
| mithro | CarlFK: so where are you at? | 05:55 |
| CarlFK | hotel in columbus OH | 05:55 |
| mithro | CarlFK: I hacked up the website to parse the PyOhio schedule | 05:56 |
| mithro | CarlFK: the encoders are ready but currently shut down | 05:56 |
| CarlFK | cool | 05:56 |
| mithro | CarlFK: just getting the IRC logging up and working | 05:56 |
| mithro | CarlFK: Added a bunch more documentation to the config file | 05:57 |
| CarlFK | when was the last time you parsed the PyOhio schedule? cuz it changed in the last 8 hours ;/ | 05:57 |
| CarlFK | I am having to fix my import to deal with {name:'Break',room:''} (or whatever is not in a room) | 05:58 |
| mithro | CarlFK: about 30 seconds ago | 06:01 |
| CarlFK | yay. glad it didn't barf | 06:02 |
| mithro | CarlFK: I was surprised it didn't barf more | 06:02 |
| CarlFK | I just got my importer to not barf too | 06:02 |
| CarlFK | lol | 06:02 |
| mithro | CarlFK: I just reused the one I had for PyCon US | 06:04 |
| mithro | CarlFK: I really need to make the eventfeed2internal.py handle the PyCon US style format | 06:04 |
| CarlFK | they haven't commited the code to trunk, but at least everyone is copying it instead of rewriting | 06:04 |
| mithro | CarlFK: it already does a very good job of cleaning up and making sense of Zookeepr schedules | 06:04 |
| mithro | (IE dealing with holes, room changes, etc) | 06:05 |
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| CarlFK | DebCon is in 3 weeks.. | 06:12 |
| CarlFK | looking for their schedule | 06:14 |
| CarlFK | http://summit.debconf.org/debconf14.xml but they haven't scheduled talks yet, so it is kinda empty | 06:21 |
| tpb | Title: DebConf14 (at summit.debconf.org) | 06:21 |
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| tvCommitBot | [HDMI2USB] mithro opened pull request #69: Making the Makefile build output nicer (master...color-output) http://git.io/LxZ_9A | 07:00 |
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| mithro | shenki: something for you to review | 07:20 |
| mithro | CarlFK: xml :( | 07:20 |
| mithro | CarlFK: I really need to get back to HDMI2USB bring up, how long from now are you likely to get venue access and things set up? | 07:21 |
| CarlFK | access to the room in 10 hours. not sure how soon I will have a box up and connected | 07:22 |
| CarlFK | I need to get to sleep .. 3am.. the plenary talks have mangled data.. | 07:23 |
| mithro | CarlFK: yeah I know - I don't really feel like fixing | 07:23 |
| mithro | CarlFK: okay, I should still be up in 10ish hours | 07:23 |
| mithro | but it will start to be reasonably late for me | 07:24 |
| CarlFK | k - see ya then - I am off to sleep | 07:25 |
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| shenki | mithro: https://github.com/timvideos/HDMI2USB/wiki/Continuous-Integration | 07:47 |
| tpb | Title: Continuous Integration · timvideos/HDMI2USB Wiki · GitHub (at github.com) | 07:47 |
| mithro | Could people who have IPv6 give the following website a go? http://dev.slidelint.net/ | 08:35 |
| tpb | Title: Slidelint checks common problems in presentation slides (at dev.slidelint.net) | 08:35 |
| mithro | If you find problems, log them at https://github.com/timvideos/slidelint_site/issues | 08:36 |
| tpb | Title: Issues · timvideos/slidelint_site · GitHub (at github.com) | 08:36 |
| mithro | Needs a lot of love in the grammar / spelling / etc department | 08:37 |
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| aps-sids | mithro: I think I need to test flumotion in streaming-system now. These ugly packages are creating problems since I'm not able to use them without installing. | 10:03 |
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| mithro | aps-sids: I'm not sure what you mean? | 10:40 |
| mithro | aps-sids: the "streaming-system" is just flumotion plus a config file | 10:40 |
| mithro | And a web frontend but that doesn't really matter to you. | 10:41 |
| aps-sids | mithro: the problem that I discussed few days back. I can't use ugly components without installing them and flumotion being ported. and I have to reinstall after every change to test it. | 10:41 |
| mithro | How do you install them? | 10:41 |
| aps-sids | make install. dpkg doesn't work | 10:42 |
| aps-sids | mithro: can the docker work done be used here? | 10:42 |
| mithro | Well, its still an installed flumotion | 10:43 |
| mithro | So it doesn't help with the "having to reinstall them after each change" | 10:43 |
| mithro | It does help with having a VM you can create and throw away quickly | 10:44 |
| mithro | aps-sids: keep pestering me about that dpkg issue | 10:44 |
| mithro | aps-sids: I set up a VM with precise to try and replicate your problem and then got distracted. | 10:45 |
| aps-sids | mithro: Well, flumotion repo I'm working on doesn't have debian/control. So, I need make install for that for sure. | 10:46 |
| mithro | Yes - the Debian issue was with the dvswitch plugin right? | 10:47 |
| aps-sids | mithro: yes | 10:47 |
| aps-sids | mithro: What I'm looking for is some way to use ugly plugins by directly putting code in flumotion repo, like it works for other existing components. | 10:48 |
| mithro | Oh, actually you might be able to do a hack to get that to worm | 10:48 |
| mithro | I'm just getting off a train | 10:48 |
| aps-sids | mithro: that would be great. It has been troubling a lot. | 10:49 |
| aps-sids | mithro: when will you be home/free? | 10:54 |
| mithro | Have you tried summoning symlink ing the directories in flumotion ugly under the flumotion directory? | 10:59 |
| mithro | The two repositories have a pretty similar structure right? | 11:00 |
| aps-sids | mithro: I tried actually putting the code of just the elements in the flumotion components directory | 11:01 |
| mithro | And? | 11:01 |
| aps-sids | manager couldn't find the components | 11:01 |
| aps-sids | I guess we need to change some xml files as well | 11:01 |
| mithro | Hrm. What does the make install step actually do? | 11:03 |
| mithro | Figure that out and you'll understand what you need to do | 11:05 |
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| aps-sids | mithro: I found the solution for using ugly components without installing. We needed to fix the xml files in the components. | 12:11 |
| mithro | hey rohitksingh | 12:11 |
| mithro | rohitksingh: how's the PCB going? | 12:11 |
| mithro | rohitksingh: did I tell you that your PCB turned up? | 12:11 |
| rohitksingh | mithro: Hi! PCB is routed. I'm currently doing length-matching of tracks. Meanwhile you could review the 'without length-matched but routed' PCB on github. Except License Info and Length matching, most of the issues have been taken care of. And yeah, you told about the PCB getting delivered yesterday | 12:19 |
| mithro | rohitksingh: take a look at https://github.com/rohit91/HDMI2USB-vmodvga/issues/16 | 12:38 |
| pyohio-logbot | Title: Routing of GND pins in VHDCI connector needs work · Issue #16 · rohit91/HDMI2USB-vmodvga · GitHub (at github.com) | 12:38 |
| tpb | Title: Routing of GND pins in VHDCI connector needs work · Issue #16 · rohit91/HDMI2USB-vmodvga · GitHub (at github.com) | 12:38 |
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| mithro | rohitksingh: the important part is the gnd is connected "through" the GND pins | 12:47 |
| mithro | IE connected to the gnd plane on both sides | 12:48 |
| mithro | rohitksingh: there are a bunch of places you could do that you haven't | 12:48 |
| rohitksingh | mithro: could you add a marker on something at that places. I will look at them | 12:49 |
| mithro | rohitksingh: if you highlight the gnd net it's pretty obvious | 12:50 |
| rohitksingh | mithro: I think you missed that those 4 GND pins of VHDCI are constrained by signals on both top and bottom layer. I can't connect them to bottom layer in any way. Try hiding the copper layer. Then it will become apparent | 12:52 |
| rohitksingh | *top copper layer | 12:53 |
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| rohitksingh | mithro: okay, got that. I thought you meant those 4 GND pins which were routed on top layer | 12:57 |
| rohitksingh | mithro: any more suggestions? I was expecting your comment on the decoupling caps. | 12:59 |
| rohitksingh | mithro: They result in greater vias and ground plane breaks when they are placed near to their respective IC's voltage pins. | 13:00 |
| rohitksingh | mithro: Jahanzeb had placed them all together near the voltage regulators. It resulted in much less vias and ground-plane breaks. But, I don't think its the proper way | 13:05 |
| mithro | rohitksingh: I'm looking now | 13:09 |
| mithro | rohitksingh: it looks pretty good to me? | 13:09 |
| rohitksingh | mithro: any design flaw or errors that you can spot? more independent reviews always result in more bug findings. I'm doing the length-matching now. I'm targeting them all to be within 10mm of each other. Is this fine? it will result in max. delay to be less than 0.2% of DATACK time period. What say? | 13:12 |
| mithro | rohitksingh: yeah that sounds good | 13:18 |
| mithro | rohitksingh: the only areas I could see potential issues with the GND plane are in https://github.com/rohit91/HDMI2USB-vmodvga/issues/21 | 13:22 |
| tpb | Title: Potential problematic GND areas · Issue #21 · rohit91/HDMI2USB-vmodvga · GitHub (at github.com) | 13:22 |
| pyohio-logbot | Title: Potential problematic GND areas · Issue #21 · rohit91/HDMI2USB-vmodvga · GitHub (at github.com) | 13:22 |
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| rohitksingh | mithro: The top one probably doesn't matter much since its testpad area. There will be no current in that area during normal operation. Am I right? | 13:25 |
| mithro | rohitksingh: it would be better if that triangle bit met the other bit | 13:26 |
| rohitksingh | mithro: The third one is the area for all VCC and VU pins from VHDCI. There is only 1 GND pin nearby, which has been connected as per your previous pink-highlighted image. Let me push all the changes to repo now. | 13:28 |
| rohitksingh | mihtro: so the third highlighted part is resolved. Remaining are 2nd and 4th highlighted areas | 13:29 |
| mithro | rohitksingh: remember a grid is almost as good as a solid plane, so where possible if you can keep create grid like structures it helps | 13:30 |
| mithro | rohitksingh: it's why the VHDCI connector is designed to be connected in that GND pattern I showed | 13:31 |
| mithro | rohitksingh: you should get hackavana to review now | 13:31 |
| rohitksingh | mithro: The present version for review? BTW I've pushed some changes now such as hanging Ground plane bits. Connected GND pins and deleted stray tracks. | 13:35 |
| mithro | rohitksingh: your silkscreen needs work | 13:40 |
| rohitksingh | mithro: which areas? | 13:41 |
| mithro | rohitksingh: have a look at the gerber it generates | 13:42 |
| rohitksingh | mithro: okay. let me see | 13:42 |
| mithro | Ahh, I think it's the bottom silk screen | 13:44 |
| mithro | rohitksingh: looking very good | 13:45 |
| rohitksingh | mithro: I didn't know KiCad outputs the Text layer also to the gerber. How do i turn it off. The Texts are overlapping with the silkscreens | 13:47 |
| mithro | rohitksingh: no sure | 13:48 |
| rohitksingh | mithro: no problems. Got that just now. There is option for turning off references and values etc in the Plot dialog | 13:49 |
| mithro | rohitksingh: I think you probably want references | 13:49 |
| rohitksingh | mtihro: yeah | 13:50 |
| rohitksingh | *mithro: yeah | 13:50 |
| shenki | o/ | 13:54 |
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| mithro | hey shenki | 14:14 |
| shenki | mithro: hello | 14:16 |
| shenki | mithro: how has your evening been? | 14:17 |
| mithro | not much progress on this BUFPLL issue :/ | 14:17 |
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| rohitksingh | mithro: Here is the fixed silkscreen http://gerblook.org/pcb/rZzQ72XWHBYFwtu2L6Aq5S | 15:35 |
| tpb | Title: GerbLook (at gerblook.org) | 15:35 |
| rohitksingh | @Timvideos community: Kindly review the designs here and give any suggestions/bugs http://gerblook.org/pcb/rZzQ72XWHBYFwtu2L6Aq5S | 15:35 |
| tpb | Title: GerbLook (at gerblook.org) | 15:35 |
| rohitksingh | The KiCad files are available here: https://github.com/rohit91/HDMI2USB-vmodvga | 15:37 |
| tpb | Title: rohit91/HDMI2USB-vmodvga · GitHub (at github.com) | 15:37 |
| mithro | rohitksingh: I don't think your bottom silk screen will come out | 15:40 |
| mithro | the lines are too fine | 15:40 |
| rohitksingh | mithro: you mean values and references? or the caps? | 15:43 |
| mithro | all of the above | 15:55 |
| mithro | CarlFK: ping? | 15:55 |
| CarlFK | mithro: hoping in the shower than driving to venue - I should be there in 45 min, maybe the rooms will be open | 15:56 |
| rohitksingh | mithro: I just referred to the hackvana FAQ. Its says silkscreen thickness should be >=4 mils. The current drawings are 4.3 mils | 15:59 |
| rohitksingh | https://docs.google.com/document/d/1p6FH25ltGpzJQ5_8fbflDukqEKghiEcpuhJpngth2Is/edit# | 15:59 |
| tpb | Title: Hackvana PCB Q - Google Docs (at docs.google.com) | 15:59 |
| mithro | rohitksingh: btw the serial box should be solid, not an outline | 16:00 |
| rohitksingh | okay. I'll also increase silkscreen thickness to 6mils | 16:01 |
| CarlFK | mithro: packing up and heading to venue | 16:30 |
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| CarlFK | mithro: cnt3 cartoon 1 is up! dvswitch in 10 min | 19:06 |
| CarlFK | omg 5am. I hope you are alseep | 19:06 |
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