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| CARAM_ | mithro: whops gotta enable comments for those posts | 00:40 |
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| shenki | mithro: take a look at the post i just made to the hdmi2usb list | 00:48 |
| mithro | CARAM_: any luck in getting the full post in the RSS feed? | 00:48 |
| mithro | shenki: if I'm understanding your results, EC2 isn't any faster? | 00:53 |
| shenki | mithro: correct | 01:05 |
| mithro | shenki: so the question is, why not? | 01:06 |
| mithro | Is the EC2 instance just crap? | 01:06 |
| mithro | Maybe we should add a "make upload" which collects /proc/cpuinfo, /proc/memstat and the output of the time run and uploads it somewhere? | 01:06 |
| CARAM_ | mithro: gonna take a look tonight. | 01:08 |
| shenki | mithro: i was surprised | 01:09 |
| shenki | mithro: do you have a known-beefy machine you can compare against? perhaps your work desktop? | 01:10 |
| mithro | shenki: yes I can do that, probably not today | 01:10 |
| mithro | shenki: any chance you might have time to hack up the "make upload" thing? | 01:10 |
| mithro | (or maybe is should be "make timetest_and_upload" or something? | 01:11 |
| shenki | i can... | 01:14 |
| shenki | im not sure how useful it is | 01:14 |
| mithro | Well, it would be good to track how the performance changes, both | 01:14 |
| mithro | * over time | 01:14 |
| mithro | * over different machines | 01:14 |
| shenki | ok | 01:15 |
| shenki | do we have people using the makefile on windows? | 01:15 |
| mithro | Not to my knowledge, and not something I'm all that interested in supporting | 01:16 |
| shenki | k | 01:16 |
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| mithro | shenki: any idea if it makes a difference for the 6 hour case? | 01:47 |
| Joelw | Yeah, I don't think one EC2 instance alone will be particularly high performance compared to a decent desktop computer | 01:54 |
| Joelw | What it'd actually be pretty good for would be to set up an on-demand cluster for SmartXplorer | 01:55 |
| mithro | Joelw: That is compared to a reasonably old *laptop* computer | 01:58 |
| Joelw | :( | 01:59 |
| CarlFK | Joelw: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7591686/ /bin/sh: 2: xst: not found | 02:02 |
| tpb | Title: Ubuntu Pastebin (at paste.ubuntu.com) | 02:02 |
| mithro | CarlFK: you didn't install the ISE tools? | 02:02 |
| CarlFK | nope | 02:02 |
| mithro | can't compile VHDL without the ISE tools | 02:02 |
| mithro | shenki: did you get any further with your incremental build stuff? I'd really like to merge that... | 02:03 |
| mithro | shenki: The time stats don't seem to indicate it being IO bound? Only 9s/5s in sys? | 02:04 |
| aps-sids | mithro: morning. I'm trying to compile latest version of gst-python from source. ./configure creates this makefile.( http://paste.ubuntu.com/7591890/ ) but doing make gives this error > http://paste.ubuntu.com/7591876/ | 02:42 |
| tpb | Title: Ubuntu Pastebin (at paste.ubuntu.com) | 02:42 |
| mithro | aps-sids: that does look wrong | 03:00 |
| mithro | aps-sids: check the bug database and see if it has been reported | 03:00 |
| mithro | if not, probably worth reporting? | 03:00 |
| mithro | ln -s -f ./$f ./$f | 03:01 |
| mithro | aps-sids: do you know how to use git to find out which commits made a tag? | 03:09 |
| aps-sids | mithro: yes | 03:11 |
| aps-sids | git show <tagname> | 03:11 |
| mithro | aps-sids: so you should confirm under which tag the Gst.py override was added | 03:11 |
| shenki | CarlFK: /me == joel stanley :) | 03:12 |
| CarlFK | shenki: then who is Joelw ? | 03:13 |
| Joelw | That's me! | 03:13 |
| CarlFK | oh! | 03:13 |
| shenki | http://www.joelw.id.au/ | 03:13 |
| * shenki is jms.id.au | 03:13 | |
| tpb | Title: Home | Joel's Compendium of Total Knowledge (at www.joelw.id.au) | 03:13 |
| shenki | to keep it nice and confusing | 03:13 |
| shenki | namespace collision | 03:13 |
| Joelw | Sorry :( | 03:13 |
| shenki | Joelw: don't be sorry, it's a great name | 03:14 |
| shenki | oh, you're from adelaide as well | 03:14 |
| Joelw | Adelaide's more than big enough for two Joels who are interested in FPGAs! | 03:14 |
| mithro | yeah | 03:14 |
| shenki | this keeps getting creepier | 03:14 |
| mithro | I worked with Joelw at one company and shenki at a different one | 03:15 |
| Joelw | If it makes you feel any better, I also did comp sys eng at Adelaide Uni | 03:15 |
| Joelw | And I'm a former co-worker of mithro. | 03:15 |
| mithro | Joelw: you started as something under Elec Eng right? | 03:15 |
| shenki | Joelw: im imagining some kind of Flight Club style split personality, where i live a different life | 03:15 |
| shenki | that im not aware of | 03:15 |
| shenki | mithro: cse is a type of elec eng, yeah | 03:16 |
| mithro | shenki: what did you do again? | 03:16 |
| shenki | mithro: cse | 03:17 |
| mithro | ha | 03:17 |
| Joelw | mithro: Yep! I never finished it, though. | 03:17 |
| shenki | Joelw: i tried pretty hard to not finish | 03:17 |
| shenki | Joelw: it took me 8 years | 03:17 |
| shenki | off and on | 03:17 |
| mithro | Joelw is now doing something in environmental science or something now? I remember something about attaching radios to lizards? | 03:18 |
| shenki | mithro: back to ec2, yeah, it doesn't look I/O bound at all | 03:20 |
| Joelw | mithro: That was my PhD - now I'm working for technology services at Uni Adelaide | 03:21 |
| aps-sids | mithro: Gst.py override was there in release 1.1.90, http://cgit.freedesktop.org/gstreamer/gst-python/commit/?id=9a258908b38884aa354c6346f632a8ddd8dec33b | 03:22 |
| tpb | Title: gstreamer/gst-python - Python bindings for GStreamer (at cgit.freedesktop.org) | 03:22 |
| mithro | aps-sids: so the question is, why isn't it in your package | 03:23 |
| mithro | you should check with dpkg --listfiles <package> | 03:23 |
| shenki | dpkg -L | 03:23 |
| shenki | Joelw: what do you do at its? | 03:24 |
| aps-sids | mithro: here <package> should be python-gi right? | 03:24 |
| mithro | aps-sids: nope! | 03:24 |
| aps-sids | then? | 03:24 |
| aps-sids | mithro: there is no python-gst or python-gst-1.0 for Ubuntu 12.04, THAT is the problem I think, http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=python-gst | 03:26 |
| tpb | Title: Ubuntu – Package Search Results -- python-gst (at packages.ubuntu.com) | 03:26 |
| mithro | aps-sids: your installing from the PPA right? | 03:27 |
| aps-sids | mithro: not there as well https://launchpad.net/~gstreamer-developers/+archive/ppa/+packages?field.name_filter=&field.status_filter=published&field.series_filter=precise | 03:27 |
| tpb | Title: Packages in “PPA for GStreamer developers” : PPA for GStreamer developers : “GStreamer developers” team (at launchpad.net) | 03:27 |
| mithro | aps-sids: remove the precise filter | 03:28 |
| aps-sids | mithro: yeah, but that won't be available for install in ubuntu precise right? | 03:28 |
| mithro | https://launchpad.net/~gstreamer-developers/+archive/ppa/+packages?field.name_filter=python&field.status_filter=published&field.series_filter= | 03:29 |
| tpb | Title: Packages in “PPA for GStreamer developers” : PPA for GStreamer developers : “GStreamer developers” team (at launchpad.net) | 03:29 |
| mithro | aps-sids: correct, but it does show such a package should exist | 03:29 |
| aps-sids | mithro: everytime I talk about this problem on #gstreamer, I'm told to upgrade my OS :| | 03:30 |
| aps-sids | package is somehow not available for precise, that is why I'm trying to compile myself (which is again failing) | 03:30 |
| mithro | aps-sids: firstly, "somehow not avaliable" is not a correct statement | 03:31 |
| aps-sids | it's not compatible with precise then? | 03:32 |
| mithro | aps-sids: A version of gst-python1.0 package for precise does not exist in the gstreamer-developers PPA | 03:32 |
| aps-sids | yes, sorry, that's what I meant | 03:32 |
| mithro | aps-sids: This may be because the gstreamer-developers no longer want to support precise in their PPA, or because they forgot to upload it, or because there are no users and don't think it is worth their time, or many other reasons | 03:33 |
| aps-sids | mithro: what should we do? | 03:34 |
| mithro | aps-sids: what do you think your options are? I can think of at least 3 | 03:34 |
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| aps-sids | mithro: I can think of compiling it myself option | 03:35 |
| mithro | aps-sids: can you be more specific, "compiling it myself" has multiple possibilities | 03:36 |
| Joelw | shenki: I work in Research Administration Applications - application support and development for projects that support researchers and research branch. | 03:36 |
| Joelw | Sort of devops and some associated small scale development, hacked together with bash scripts :) | 03:37 |
| aps-sids | mithro: I meant what I was trying to do already. Getting latest version source of gst-python and make install it. (in which I was getting the error I mentioned before) | 03:37 |
| shenki | Joelw: sounds coll | 03:38 |
| shenki | Joelw: sounds cool | 03:38 |
| mithro | aps-sids: okay, what else could you do? | 03:38 |
| aps-sids | mithro: I can add the overrides' code in flumotion codebase itself? | 03:39 |
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| mithro | aps-sids: you have wait more options then that | 04:34 |
| mithro | s/wait/way/ | 04:35 |
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| aps-sids | mithro: can you give a hint please :) | 04:42 |
| mithro | aps-sids: You could contact the person who added the module to the PPA to find out why they didn't do it for precise. | 04:43 |
| mithro | aps-sids: You could contact the owners of the PPA to find out if they are interested in support precise at all any more. | 04:43 |
| aps-sids | okay | 04:43 |
| mithro | aps-sids: You could try compiling the package for precise yourself | 04:44 |
| mithro | aps-sids: You could try and see if the compile does install on precise | 04:44 |
| mithro | aps-sids: You could set up your own PPA of some sort | 04:44 |
| mithro | aps-sids: You could look at using the gstreamer side build stuff to install a complete tree into a different location | 04:45 |
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| mithro | aps-sids: make sense? | 05:37 |
| mithro | aps-sids: each one has pros and cons | 05:37 |
| aps-sids | mithro: yes, I have another idea (might not be a good one). Since after porting is completed, flumotion will be run on newer Ubuntu versions which have packages in the ppa, placing Gst.py manually in gi/overrides folder will do the work. | 05:45 |
| mithro | aps-sids: our next "standard" platform will be trusty | 05:46 |
| mithro | aps-sids: there are people interested in Debian, but no idea on what versions | 05:46 |
| aps-sids | mithro: There is a gst-python 1.2.0 package in ppa for Trusty. I was mostly inclined towards compiling gst-python from source, but it's also giving errors. | 05:48 |
| mithro | aps-sids: do you know how to download a package and try recompiling it? | 05:48 |
| aps-sids | not really | 05:49 |
| mithro | aps-sids: I think this is probably worth spending a day learning | 05:49 |
| mithro | https://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/apt-howto/ch-sourcehandling.en.html -- https://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/maint-guide/build.en.html -- https://wiki.debian.org/BuildingTutorial | 05:50 |
| tpb | Title: APT HOWTO (Obsolete Documentation) - Working with source packages (at www.debian.org) | 05:50 |
| aps-sids | mithro: okay. so you are suggesting that I should setup a ppa for gst-python1.0 for precise? | 05:50 |
| mithro | aps-sids: not necessarily | 05:50 |
| mithro | aps-sids: first step is to try and see if you can build the gst-python1.0 on precise first | 05:51 |
| aps-sids | okay | 05:51 |
| aps-sids | I'll do that then. Thanks for helping out. | 05:51 |
| mithro | aps-sids: if it works without changes, then it would be trying to find out why the gstreamer developers ppa doesn't include it would be good - because that informs if you want to do your own PPA | 06:00 |
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| aps-sids | mithro: I asked in #gstreamer that missing package in PPA is a mistake or precise is not supported anymore. __tim says that precise is unsupported. | 06:16 |
| mithro | aps-sids: its worth asking them both, a) what platforms they are supporting in their PPA, b) why there are some precise packages in the PPA (and if they maybe should remove the obsolete/unsupported ones?) | 06:18 |
| mithro | aps-sids: obviously try not to sound demanding / entitled - try to just fine out their reasoning / thought process | 06:20 |
| aps-sids | mithro: I compiled gst-python1.0 from source available in PPA and it works just fine. Overrides are now available in gi/overrides/Gst.py | 06:55 |
| mithro | great | 06:55 |
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| CARAM_ | mithro: made custom feed, http://mstritzi.nfshost.com/blog/rss/ look okay? | 07:39 |
| tpb | Title: Max StritzingerGSoC 2014: Dockerizing Flumotion, Building a Build System (at mstritzi.nfshost.com) | 07:39 |
| mithro | CARAM_: yes, much better! You should update the planet with the new URL and then send a pull request | 07:42 |
| CARAM_ | okay | 07:43 |
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| mithro | CARAM_: ha, mparuszewski got to the pull request before I did :P | 07:54 |
| mparuszewski | Just got an email about the pull request, checked links, seems OK and merged. :D | 07:55 |
| mithro | mparuszewski: yes, working as intended :P | 07:56 |
| CARAM_ | mithro: cool :) also, should I just submit a new pull request with the commits squashed for that event2feed file? | 08:01 |
| CARAM_ | or is there a way that I can edit my pull request without pushing additional commits? | 08:02 |
| mithro | If you just push to the branch you sent the pull request from it will update the pull request | 08:03 |
| CARAM_ | gotcha, thanks | 08:04 |
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| shenki | openssl security advisory \o/ | 12:16 |
| shenki | FeltonChris: hey | 12:37 |
| shenki | FeltonChris: you should get some more RAM at the very least :) | 12:37 |
| shenki | FeltonChris: what CPU are you running? $ head /proc/cpuinfo | 12:37 |
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| aps-sids | mithro: Is this [ http://goo.gl/ArjCyF ] fix valid/ok for error number 1 here [ http://goo.gl/edSAMA ]? | 13:11 |
| tpb | Title: pspec pass; porting probes; · 5a1ac72 · bananadine/flumotion · GitHub (at goo.gl) | 13:11 |
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| shenki | mithro: i have updated libssl on ns, lex and hopper, and restarted affected services | 13:25 |
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