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| aps-sids | mparuszewski: This site.url here should be changed to blog_url or whatever suits it. https://github.com/pinoss/getting-started/blob/master/feed.xml#L16 | 00:07 |
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| tpb | Title: getting-started/feed.xml at master · pinoss/getting-started · GitHub (at github.com) | 00:07 |
| aps-sids | feed gives wrong links. | 00:07 |
| aps-sids | mithro: I know how to create stream of test producers using gui only and I'm not able to figure out or find relevant documentation about using flumotion-admin-text. Do you have any idea about using flumotion-admin-text? This is what I get when I use it. Doing startall, nothing happens. http://picpaste.com/pics/flu-admin-screen-YKWpy8um.1401150994.png | 00:37 |
| CarlFK | aps-sids: I have never looked into how flumotion-admin/text interacts with the server. I am pretty sure it does it via a network connection, so you should be able to run the client on another box or vm ? | 00:45 |
| aps-sids | CarlFK: while porting some modules, the flumotion-admin (ui client) breaks as the modules used for ui are not compatible and they need to be ported as well. I want to setup a basic test stream but i can't use the gui since its broken. I'm talking about this - http://www.flumotion.net/doc/flumotion/manual/en/trunk/html/section-quick-start-starting.html | 00:55 |
| tpb | Title: Starting Flumotion (at www.flumotion.net) | 00:55 |
| aps-sids | basically i want to do the steps done in this link using cmd line or some configuration file. | 00:56 |
| mithro | aps-sids: you need to learn to manipulate the xml config files directly | 01:36 |
| aps-sids | mithro: oh, I get it now. you mean like the planet.xml file we use in manager? | 01:40 |
| mithro | manager.xml and worker.xml too I think? | 01:40 |
| mithro | https://github.com/timvideos/streaming-system/tree/master/tools/flumotion-config | 01:40 |
| tpb | Title: streaming-system/tools/flumotion-config at master · timvideos/streaming-system · GitHub (at github.com) | 01:40 |
| mithro | /usr/local/etc/flumotion/managers/default/planet.xml | 01:41 |
| mithro | /usr/local/etc/flumotion/workers/default.xml | 01:41 |
| mithro | http://www.flumotion.net/doc/flumotion/manual/en/0.6.0/html/section-deployment-xml.html | 01:42 |
| tpb | Title: Configuration Files (at www.flumotion.net) | 01:42 |
| mithro | CarlFK: I got the screen from amazon | 02:29 |
| mithro | http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00ABWYFG2/ref=oh_details_o01_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1 | 02:33 |
| mithro | ~seen ajit | 02:42 |
| tpb | mithro: ajit was last seen in #timvideos 10 weeks, 0 days, 11 hours, 57 minutes, and 54 seconds ago: <Ajit> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1akF6lBb78OWTGFosnYUC5-MxuNZXCrCob70ga3uQB8A/edit | 02:42 |
| mithro | ~seen tija | 02:42 |
| tpb | mithro: tija was last seen in #timvideos 3 days, 12 hours, 22 minutes, and 15 seconds ago: <tija> Can anyone suggest me a way to measure the FPS of video streaming from HDMI2USB? | 02:42 |
| mithro | aps-sids: btw what timezone are you? | 03:16 |
| aps-sids | mithro: GMT+5:30 | 03:17 |
| mithro | Did you just get up very early or not gone to bed yet? | 03:17 |
| aps-sids | Didn't sleep. | 03:19 |
| mithro | aps-sids: I'd recommend trying to keep decent hours, it's fairly easy to get into the habit of sleeping strange hours and it's not good for your health | 03:19 |
| aps-sids | mithro: Actually, I slept last evening so wasn't feeling too sleepy. I'll keep this is mind and thanks for the concern :) | 03:23 |
| mithro | I have horrible sleeping habits myself | 03:28 |
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| rohitksingh | mithro: are you in VC? could you also send that invite to my gmail ID. Google is not letting me accept the invte | 07:02 |
| mithro | rohitksingh: Hi! | 07:03 |
| mithro | rohitksingh: I assume you were not going to make the meeting today | 07:03 |
| rohitksingh | Hi! | 07:03 |
| mithro | Ayush is running late | 07:03 |
| rohitksingh | I can attend today and, I'm sitting ready for it! I'd resume my studies after the VC. No problem in that! | 07:04 |
| mithro | okay, give me a second | 07:04 |
| rohitksingh | Got the mail! Should we start or wait for Ayush? | 07:10 |
| mithro | rohitksingh: nah, we can start now | 07:11 |
| mithro | if we finish early, that is fine | 07:11 |
| rohitksingh | great! | 07:11 |
| mithro | just trying to see if we can have a permanent URL for the hangout | 07:11 |
| rohitksingh | ok | 07:12 |
| rohitksingh | this one is the URL right? https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/google.com/gsoc-mentor | 07:12 |
| tpb | Title: Google+ (at plus.google.com) | 07:12 |
| mithro | rohitksingh: no | 07:15 |
| mithro | rohitksingh: see private message | 07:17 |
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| mithro | Hi tija! | 07:59 |
| mithro | tija: I saw somewhere that it was taking quite a while for you to compile the firmware? | 08:00 |
| tija | mithro:Hi | 08:00 |
| tija | yes | 08:00 |
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| tija | this is happening because I have changed the place and route strategy. So the ISE is putting "extra effort" meet all timing. | 08:01 |
| mithro | tija: how long is it taking you? | 08:02 |
| tija | mithro: Around 10 -12 mins. I am using a i5 4Gb ram laptop | 08:03 |
| rohitksingh | tija: mine is also i5 4GB 32-bit...took longer than 1 hours from synthesis to bitgen :( :O | 08:04 |
| tija | rohitksingh: I am pretty sure mine doesn't take that long | 08:05 |
| mithro | brb | 08:06 |
| rohitksingh | tija: does Graphics Card accelerate the process? Because I have my ATI card disabled. Would it affect? | 08:07 |
| tija | rohitksingh: Don't know. You can try. | 08:09 |
| ayush3504 | I'm yet to compile it. I'll let you guys know how much time it takes for me. | 08:09 |
| rohitksingh | also PAR takes longest time...around 90% of the time...Let me try if I can increase speed! | 08:09 |
| ayush3504 | tija, rohitksingh: which version/distro of Windows/linux are you using it on? | 08:12 |
| rohitksingh | Ubuntu 12.04 has Xilinx 14.7 Installed, and Windows 7 has both 14.2 and 14.7 installed. Both are 32-bit | 08:13 |
| Joelw | I don't think ISE supports GPU acceleration | 08:14 |
| Joelw | The tighter your timing constraints, the longer it'll take | 08:14 |
| Joelw | ChipScope Pro can also make the process loads slower, and it'll make timing harder to achieve | 08:15 |
| tija | Does anyone know how I can force the jpeg core to encode at lower quality. In the documentation there are commands for the same. | 08:18 |
| tija | Just complied the firmware. It took me 13 mins. | 08:25 |
| rohitksingh | tija: you have 32-bit or 64-bit os and toolchain? | 08:28 |
| tija | 64 bit | 08:28 |
| tija | I use ubuntu 13.10 | 08:28 |
| ayush3504 | rohitksingh: maybe its just the settings and timing constraints as joelw mentioned | 08:29 |
| rohitksingh | hmm...maybe, 1 reason is also 64-bit...and i5 also probably 3rd gen? I've 2nd gen i5...I'm also currently compiling. It took 5min 43 seconds for sysnthesis....1 min 29 sec for Translate...and currently doing map | 08:31 |
| rohitksingh | map took around 18 minutes....currently doing par | 08:49 |
| tija | rohitksingh: are you using ISE GUI or makefile? | 08:52 |
| rohitksingh | woah! par done...around 5 minutes... | 08:53 |
| rohitksingh | ISE GUI...which one do you use? | 08:53 |
| rohitksingh | total time 30 minutes 8 seconds....atleast better improvement from last time :) | 08:54 |
| rohitksingh | tija: ISE GUI...which one do you use? | 08:54 |
| tija | same | 08:54 |
| rohitksingh | I think i can bring it down further to around 15-20 minutes by changing process priority...going to try it | 08:58 |
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| mithro | gah, they both left | 09:11 |
| mithro | shenki: ping? | 09:22 |
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| shenki | mithro: pong | 10:19 |
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| mithro | shenki: ha, Rusty's blog mentions you :) | 12:42 |
| mithro | shenki: you'll be all famous soon :P | 12:44 |
| shenki | mithro: i just fird up my feed reader to see if he'd published that blog post yet. he was writing it thisfternoon :) | 12:45 |
| shenki | mithro: i wrote a little android app for him to do the tests on native 3G (without having to teather) | 12:45 |
| shenki | nothing puts the pressure on like having rusty watch over your shoulder while you'r coding | 12:45 |
| mithro | ha, start talking about ipchains, that'll distract him | 12:46 |
| shenki | heh | 12:47 |
| shenki | mithro: oh, so i didn't realise tija had written another blog post | 12:48 |
| mithro | Need to set up a RSS->email gateway? :P | 12:48 |
| shenki | mithro: given the frame rate goes up when he turns the compression up, i strongly suspect we are limited post-jpeg core | 12:48 |
| shenki | heh | 12:48 |
| shenki | i signed up for newsblur after everyone was talking about it the other day | 12:48 |
| shenki | so he's either being slowed down transfering from the core into ram, or ram into cypress | 12:49 |
| shenki | either way, it's on his list for this week to measure the 'frame done' signal from the jpeg core, and see if it corrosponds to the frame rate | 12:49 |
| mithro | shenki: I don't understand the flow enough to know | 12:50 |
| shenki | ok | 12:50 |
| shenki | i'll suggest he draws a diagram of what's going on | 12:50 |
| mithro | but yeah, measuring usb FPS output seems like a bad signal to be using | 12:50 |
| shenki | ulitmately it's what we care about, but yeah, need to remove some of the layers | 12:51 |
| shenki | mithro: any news on the hdmi2usb boards? | 12:52 |
| mithro | Looks like we'll be sending off end of this week | 12:52 |
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| mithro | I could use some help getting the firmware into a useful state to support both the Atlys and this board | 12:53 |
| shenki | sure | 12:54 |
| shenki | will we require changes to both the FPGA and fx2? | 12:54 |
| mithro | I don't think we need any changes to the FX2 at all | 12:55 |
| shenki | that's good news | 12:55 |
| shenki | so just changing the ucf for the new pad configuration? | 12:56 |
| mithro | Let me finish publish this event notice and then I'll share with you what I have so far | 12:56 |
| shenki | ok | 12:56 |
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| mithro | shenki: the master spreadsheet is at https://docs.google.com/a/mithis.com/spreadsheets/d/10vNcsOAxnuiwc5diespjIepMySxhR0iVZfYxouq4p-E/edit | 13:02 |
| tpb | Title: Google Sheets - create and edit spreadsheets online, for free. (at docs.google.com) | 13:02 |
| mithro | I've divided the firmware into "Modules" | 13:07 |
| mithro | Then for each NET that was externally visible I've mapped to a PIN | 13:08 |
| mithro | The idea is that the Pins - ATLYS and Pins - NUMATO will be loaded from the schematics (I already have a tool which generates the required output from the KiCad schematic) | 13:08 |
| shenki | nice | 13:09 |
| mithro | It's the script which loads the other megaspreadsheet | 13:09 |
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| mithro | Which I'd like to split out into multiple parts | 13:10 |
| mithro | IE The section which does the comparisons between the LX16, LX25, LX45, LX25T, LX45T would be generally useful for anyone who wants to support all the chips | 13:10 |
| shenki | right | 13:10 |
| mithro | Already chatted to Bunnie about it | 13:11 |
| shenki | awsesome | 13:11 |
| mithro | Seeing if there is any possibility of the next revision of the laptop board supporting a T series | 13:11 |
| shenki | T series? | 13:11 |
| mithro | He said he'd look into it if I prove it works on my board | 13:12 |
| shenki | FPGA? | 13:12 |
| mithro | The Spartan 6 have a "T variant" which has inbuilt high speed GTP transceivers | 13:12 |
| mithro | It would allow us to do 1080p and other interesting things | 13:12 |
| shenki | right | 13:13 |
| shenki | so our fpga is a t series? | 13:14 |
| Joelw | Does the Artix 7 have normal I/O fast enough? Ugh, cheapest one is $103 on Digikey :) | 13:15 |
| Joelw | shenki: I don't think any of the reasonably priced dev boards have the 'T' | 13:15 |
| mithro | Joelw: yeah that is a big problem too | 13:16 |
| shenki | so our board doesn't have a T series? | 13:16 |
| mithro | shenki: our board should support any of the LX16, LX25, LX45, LX25T and LX45T depending on which resistors are populated | 13:16 |
| shenki | mithro: ok. so the spreadsheet says the conference model will have the T, and the others don't | 13:17 |
| shenki | i understand now | 13:17 |
| mithro | shenki: that is the plan | 13:17 |
| shenki | cool | 13:19 |
| mithro | shenki: which should mean that the conference model of HDMI2USB is also a decent board for doing prototyping with the GTP ports | 13:19 |
| shenki | ok | 13:19 |
| shenki | mithro: i thought we could do 1080p with our board? | 13:20 |
| shenki | oh, no, it could almost do it. not quite though. i recall testing it now | 13:20 |
| mithro | shenki: no, the pins don't twiddle fast enough | 13:20 |
| shenki | hrm, if you open our ise project, it doesn't know where all of the files are | 13:20 |
| shenki | surely other people have come across that in the past few weeks? | 13:21 |
| shenki | WARNING:ProjectMgmt:430 - DesignStrategies - Strategy file C:/Xilinx/14.2/ISE_DS/ISE/spartan6/data/spartan6_performance_with_iobpacking.xds doesn't exist or is empty, skipping. | 13:21 |
| shenki | yes ISE, that path doesn't exist. good work. | 13:21 |
| mithro | I haven't been opening it in ISE | 13:22 |
| shenki | neither had i, until just now | 13:22 |
| shenki | i wanted to see what xilinx's visualisation tools were like these days | 13:22 |
| shenki | the last project i was on i used the altera tools to look at the schematic view a lot | 13:23 |
| shenki | it was very useful for working out what hooks into where | 13:23 |
| mithro | oh, that reminds me | 13:24 |
| mithro | Jahanzeb's brother was interested in seeing if he could port the HDMI2USB stuff to Altera | 13:25 |
| shenki | cool | 13:25 |
| shenki | does he have a dev board in mind? | 13:25 |
| mithro | I'm not sure | 13:25 |
| mithro | He is fairly new | 13:26 |
| shenki | ok | 13:27 |
| shenki | what does the system use the SPI pins for? | 13:31 |
| mithro | Context? | 13:31 |
| shenki | the hdmi2usb system has some pads for a SPI port | 13:32 |
| mithro | There is SPI for reading the config from flash | 13:32 |
| shenki | ok | 13:33 |
| mithro | There will be a SPI interface for talking to the PMIC on the Numato board | 13:33 |
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| shenki | PMIC? | 13:37 |
| shenki | power? | 13:37 |
| mithro | Power Management IC | 13:37 |
| mithro | It's a PIC | 13:37 |
| mithro | it also has a bunch of peripherals and LEDs attached to it | 13:37 |
| mithro | we'll need to write some firmware for it eventually | 13:38 |
| shenki | PIC booo | 13:38 |
| shenki | :) | 13:38 |
| mithro | it requires literally *zero* supporting components | 13:39 |
| mithro | and has a very stable voltage reference internally | 13:39 |
| mithro | those where the two main reasons | 13:39 |
| shenki | yeah. no arguments there. the toolchain is not ideal though, unless things have changed? | 13:40 |
| mithro | just sdcc | 13:40 |
| shenki | ok | 13:40 |
| mithro | most of the PIC firmware will probably be generated from a different spreadsheet | 14:02 |
| shenki | you should have been a civil engineer | 14:06 |
| shenki | the only people i know who love spreadsheets as much as you are civil engineers | 14:06 |
| mithro | ha | 14:09 |
| mithro | I find them a reasonable way to represent data | 14:09 |
| shenki | yup | 14:11 |
| mithro | refactoring code with no external differences in output is hard :/ | 14:18 |
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| tariq786_lab | comments and suggestions are welcome at hdmi2ethernet.blogspot.com | 19:08 |
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