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| mithro | pk__: ping? | 00:30 |
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| mithro | pk__: we generally only load onto the cypress RAM rather then FLASH, so you can just power cycle the board to go back to the Atlys firmware | 00:31 |
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| puck | Ah, so that's why the board keeps on forgetting the firmware! ;) | 01:39 |
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| mithro | puck: At the moment we don't have a good story for writing to the Cypress FLASH yet | 02:21 |
| mithro | NickB_: ping? | 02:23 |
| mithro | puck: we really need to investigate a FOSS firmware to load onto the Atlys board which supports flashing the Xilinx | 02:24 |
| mithro | puck: there are a bunch out there, we just need to figure it out :( | 02:25 |
| puck | heh | 02:26 |
| puck | E_NOTIME huh? | 02:26 |
| puck | ;) | 02:26 |
| mithro | puck: yeah | 02:32 |
| mithro | so the question is, do we have enough mentors to do GSoC? | 02:33 |
| puck | Not I | 02:50 |
| mithro | lukejohn_ / NickB_: thoughts? | 03:10 |
| mithro | hyades: ping? | 03:10 |
| mithro | ~seen iiie | 03:11 |
| tpb | mithro: iiie was last seen in #timvideos 4 days, 3 hours, 37 minutes, and 54 seconds ago: <iiie> update does a database update and doesn't run signals either | 03:11 |
| lukejohn_ | mithro: sorry been away from desktop, thoughts on what? | 03:24 |
| mithro | lukejohn_: Google Summer of Code, trying to figure out if we have people who are willing to be mentors | 03:24 |
| lukejohn_ | i'm uncertain how gsoc works, but i can't imagine you'll have trouble finding people willing to give advice to people coding on the open source video conferencing stack. | 03:30 |
| lukejohn_ | Though after reading https://code.google.com/p/google-summer-of-code/wiki/Mentors , it looks like it would be tricky as i imagine most gsoc student are in US timezones and would struggle to get timely responses to irc queries. | 03:32 |
| tpb | <http://ln-s.net/AsSG> (at code.google.com) | 03:32 |
| mithro | lukejohn_: so a mentor needs to be available for a minimum of ~10ish hours a week to work with the student | 03:37 |
| mithro | I need 3 other mentors minimum | 03:38 |
| mithro | thaytan: I'm assuming you don't have the time | 03:38 |
| CarlFK | ~10ish hours a week is 2h / day m-f - that seems a bit much | 03:40 |
| lukejohn_ | mithro: We've got our local lug agm tonight so I will ask the lca14 av team about availability. | 03:41 |
| mithro | CarlFK: good students obviously need less time | 03:42 |
| mithro | but I would say I was doing at least 1 hour a day (during the week) but sometimes up to 3 or 4 | 03:42 |
| lukejohn_ | also just a heads up, the lca14 av team may be involved with av for the edge of the web (EOTW) conference this year. (i haven't actually spoken to the av team about this, I just bumped into the organiser late last week) | 03:44 |
| lukejohn_ | is there a wiki/git_repo/some_other_thing that is documenting what events are being streamed by who and with what stack | 03:44 |
| CarlFK | oh my :) | 03:46 |
| CarlFK | lukejohn_: there is a goog calendar of events for .. um.. event's mithro has some ties to .. not sure how to define it | 03:48 |
| CarlFK | mithro: use gst-switch somewhere!!! :p | 03:48 |
| CarlFK | wouter wants to start using it too - but like me, doesn't want to be the first | 03:49 |
| mithro | I need to submit an application to GSoC over the next 24-48 hours | 03:49 |
| mithro | CarlFK: yeah I know | 03:49 |
| mithro | whois wouter? | 03:49 |
| CarlFK | current dvswitch project lead, and lead of video for fordem | 03:50 |
| CarlFK | fosdem | 03:50 |
| CarlFK | fosdem did 22 rooms a few weeks ago. with 22 twinpacts. and wants to use something else next year. | 03:51 |
| mithro | CarlFK: did I tell you about snowmix? | 04:00 |
| CarlFK | mithro: don't think so | 04:00 |
| mithro | It looks a lot like gst-switch | 04:01 |
| mithro | http://sourceforge.net/projects/snowmix/ | 04:01 |
| tpb | Title: Snowmix | Free Audio & Video software downloads at SourceForge.net (at sourceforge.net) | 04:01 |
| mithro | Snowmix is a video mixer tool for mixing live and recorded video and audio feeds. It supports clipping, scaling and transparent overlay of video, png graphics and text. It supports animation of video, images and texts through native commands changing scale, placement, transparency and rotation. Animation and actions can also be controlled through native | 04:01 |
| mithro | scripting and an embedded Tcl interpreter. Snowmix is designed for control over low bandwidth links and can work as a standalone CLI based program. Control over both CLI and a TCP connections. Live and recorded video feeds can be fed to the mixer via GStreamer pipelines. Output can be accessed through GStreamer pipelines. | 04:01 |
| CarlFK | I am skeptical | 04:02 |
| CarlFK | at fosdem someone was trying to tell me vlc could be used in place of DVswitch | 04:02 |
| CarlFK | "because it can do pic n pic." | 04:03 |
| CarlFK | I didn't feel like pursuing that conversation | 04:03 |
| CarlFK | pretty sure the person had never run DVswitch. | 04:04 |
| CarlFK | brb | 04:04 |
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| CarlFK | back | 04:08 |
| mithro | CarlFK: snowmix seems to have been actually used in production settings | 04:57 |
| mithro | CarlFK: but it doesn't appear to be publicly developed | 04:57 |
| CarlFK | Screenshot 3 / 5 Snapshot of the GUI based control application Snowcub | 04:59 |
| CarlFK | i worry that it isn't something that some volunteer can figure out basic operation in 5 min | 05:00 |
| lukejohn_ | mithro: the linuxconfau2014 youtube account has been terminated, who should I talk to about this? | 05:06 |
| CarlFK | lukejohn_: woa. any idea why? | 05:07 |
| lukejohn_ | CarlFK: no idea, just spoke to Steve Walsh and it sounds like mithro is aware of the problem. | 05:08 |
| mithro | lukejohn_: I'm on it | 05:16 |
| mithro | lukejohn_: who is the dvswitch management software developer again? | 05:28 |
| lukejohn_ | mithro: wouter? I think you may have me confused with CarlFK though. (luke john is from perth lca) | 05:30 |
| mithro | lukejohn_: the one lca2014 used, starts with an e - restarts dvswitch when it crashes and stuff? | 05:31 |
| lukejohn_ | my mistake leon wright (techman83) and jason nicholls (nimm) would be the project leads | 05:32 |
| lukejohn_ | https://github.com/lukejohnosmahi/eventstreamr | 05:33 |
| tpb | Title: lukejohnosmahi/eventstreamr · GitHub (at github.com) | 05:33 |
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| pk__ | Gsoc times :) | 06:17 |
| * pk__ feels nostalgic :) | 06:17 | |
| mithro | pk__: you where a GSoC student or mentor? | 06:20 |
| mithro | ~seen Sewar | 06:21 |
| tpb | mithro: Sewar was last seen in #timvideos 18 weeks, 0 days, 3 hours, 19 minutes, and 31 seconds ago: <Sewar> CarlFK, nice | 06:21 |
| pk__ | student several times :) | 06:21 |
| pk__ | upto three projects in a single year...lol | 06:22 |
| pk__ | mithro: http://people.videolan.org/~pk | 06:24 |
| tpb | Title: Pankaj Yadav's WebHome (at people.videolan.org) | 06:24 |
| mithro | pk__: just a tip for that site, you should be putting spaces after both full stops and commas -- IE "abc. Test" not "abc.Test" | 06:26 |
| pk__ | hmm | 06:27 |
| pk__ | although i have not visited the site myself in last 3 years :) | 06:27 |
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| pk__ | i tried on prebuild on atlys yesterday | 06:42 |
| pk__ | made mcs of the bit file and loaded to the flash of atlys | 06:42 |
| pk__ | then hardware was running properly..i could see the test pattern on my tv | 06:43 |
| pk__ | but on computer i ran ubuntu and then programmed the cypress chip | 06:43 |
| pk__ | and i could see that an UVC device was shown /dev/video1 | 06:44 |
| pk__ | but when i played it via vlc then no video :( | 06:44 |
| mithro | pk__: the test pattern appears before you flash the Atlys bit file | 07:34 |
| pk__ | why would it appear before ? | 07:34 |
| pk__ | i connected my set top box to HDMI IN of atlys | 07:35 |
| pk__ | and tv to hdmi out | 07:35 |
| pk__ | then i started atlys | 07:35 |
| pk__ | since the bit file is written on flash so it loads the bit file automatically | 07:35 |
| pk__ | then test pattern appears on tv | 07:36 |
| pk__ | then i press some button and video came on tv | 07:36 |
| pk__ | so basically hardware is working okay | 07:36 |
| pk__ | then i programmed the cypress chip | 07:36 |
| pk__ | and on dmesg it was shown that a uvc device is connected | 07:36 |
| pk__ | and /dev/video1 was created automatically | 07:37 |
| pk__ | then i did vlc -vvv --color v4l2://dev/video1 | 07:37 |
| pk__ | says device opened successfully but no video | 07:38 |
| pk__ | mithro: ^ | 07:38 |
| mithro | which test pattern? | 07:39 |
| pk__ | yellow rectangles | 07:39 |
| pk__ | with shades of manu colours :) | 07:40 |
| pk__ | many* | 07:40 |
| pk__ | mithro: what command you use to play the device finally? | 08:07 |
| mithro | can you send a picture? | 08:07 |
| pk__ | sure | 08:07 |
| pk__ | my screen? | 08:07 |
| mithro | the test pattern | 08:14 |
| pk__ | yes got the video this time | 08:24 |
| pk__ | but the frame rate is too low | 08:25 |
| mithro | pk__: the captured frame rate on 720p will be roughly 17fps at the moment, we haven't had time to optimise the mjpeg core for full frame rate | 08:31 |
| mithro | (the hardware can do 30fps easily) | 08:31 |
| pk__ | hmm | 08:35 |
| pk__ | it is sending raw or mjpeg ? | 08:36 |
| pk__ | ohh so v4l2 automatically decompresses mjpeg and the player always gets raw video | 08:37 |
| pk__ | is that true? | 08:37 |
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| pk__ | video quality is so nice :) | 08:45 |
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| mithro | pk__: you have two options | 09:33 |
| mithro | raw or mjpeg | 09:33 |
| mithro | pk__: appreciate feedback on the documentation | 10:09 |
| thaytan | pk__, libv4l will automatically do decompression if vlc is using that | 10:42 |
| mithro | thaytan: ping? | 11:29 |
| thaytan | pong | 11:29 |
| mithro | thaytan: now I totally forget what I was going to ask you :P | 11:29 |
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| thaytan | that's why you should never ask to ask ;) | 11:30 |
| mithro | thaytan: well the primary thing I was going to ask you | 11:30 |
| mithro | thaytan: secondary things | 11:30 |
| mithro | thaytan: * I assume you are too busy to mentor a gstreamer related GSoC project? | 11:30 |
| thaytan | probably, I've never done it to assess how much effort it takes | 11:31 |
| mithro | thaytan: https://twitter.com/codemiller/status/433181335687925760 | 11:32 |
| tpb | Title: Twitter / codemiller: Just received a special delivery. ... (at twitter.com) | 11:32 |
| thaytan | heh | 11:33 |
| thaytan | mithro, how'd that work? | 11:33 |
| mithro | Managed to get out to the hacker space here and play with the laser cutter | 11:33 |
| thaytan | artifactory cut them and posted them over? | 11:33 |
| thaytan | ah robodino | 11:33 |
| mithro | Yeah | 11:34 |
| mithro | still working on trying to get one at work | 11:34 |
| mithro | thaytan: I had something I wanted to ask regarding the gst-plugins-dvswitch, but can't remeber what | 11:34 |
| mithro | mentoring totally depends on the student. I estimate around 10 hours a week, but CarlFK thinks that is too high | 11:36 |
| mithro | thaytan: have you heard of snowmix btw? | 11:38 |
| thaytan | rings a bell | 11:39 |
| mithro | CarlFK: https://sourceforge.net/p/snowmix/wiki/Development%20Plans/ | 11:39 |
| thaytan | yeah, I don't have 10 hours a week | 11:39 |
| tpb | <http://ln-s.net/Asp0> (at sourceforge.net) | 11:39 |
| mithro | thaytan: yeah I didn't think so | 11:39 |
| dhanush | mithro: I am interested to work on porting flumotion to gstreamer 1.0 as part of a GSoC. | 11:42 |
| dhanush | How do I get started on it? | 11:42 |
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| pk__ | mentoring does not takes much time | 13:26 |
| pk__ | and if this is first time you are getting 2-3 slots at max | 13:30 |
| pk__ | so only 2-3 serious mentors and students will be needed | 13:33 |
| pk__ | and ideas page look good | 13:35 |
| pk__ | ideas page should* look good | 13:36 |
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| parx | mithro are you doing GSOC again this year? | 19:30 |
| parx | or applying, at least | 19:30 |
| CarlFK | hey parx! | 19:35 |
| CarlFK | I think yes.. given chatter like (05:36:30 AM) mithro: mentoring totally depends on the student. I estimate around 10 hours a week, but CarlFK thinks that is too high | 19:35 |
| parx | hola | 19:35 |
| parx | ok, thanks | 19:36 |
| CarlFK | parx: oh oh look look http://veyepar.nextdayvideo.com/main/C/fosdem/S/fosdem_2014/E/7943/ | 19:40 |
| tpb | <http://ln-s.net/At:a> (at veyepar.nextdayvideo.com) | 19:40 |
| CarlFK | recoding sheets magically attached! | 19:40 |
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| parx | Fancy schmancy. A magical gift from Santa? | 19:44 |
| CarlFK | if that's the best Santa can do, I am disappointed | 19:47 |
| CarlFK | it is pretty clunky. but an image on a web page isn't normally used for doing data entry into a web page, so .. um.. I am not really sure what "good" should look like | 19:47 |
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| parx | Mentoring organization application deadline: Feb 14 | 19:55 |
| parx | If anyone around knows, how's the GSOC application going? | 19:56 |
| CarlFK | I think last night: (09:49:26 PM) mithro: I need to submit an application to GSoC over the next 24-48 hours | 19:57 |
| parx | : \ | 19:59 |
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| puck | And he's looking for mentors. | 20:12 |
| iiie | CarlFK: PNGs on http://veyepar.nextdayvideo.com/main/C/fosdem/S/fosdem_2014/E/7943/ awesome! | 20:51 |
| tpb | <http://ln-s.net/At:a> (at veyepar.nextdayvideo.com) | 20:51 |
| iiie | Next up OCR to get known forms with the right episodes ;) | 20:52 |
| iiie | cut up the form and put it with the episode | 20:52 |
| iiie | then you can be down to recaptcha in the simple case (look for more marks and have a "not just a time" option for more review) | 20:53 |
| CarlFK | iiie: https://github.com/CarlFK/veyepar/blob/master/dj/scripts/addimg.py#L22 ocr_cmd = ['tesseract', imgname, '/tmp/text'] | 20:57 |
| tpb | Title: veyepar/dj/scripts/addimg.py at master · CarlFK/veyepar · GitHub (at github.com) | 20:57 |
| CarlFK | things got a little wonky trying to figure out how to tie the ocr output to talks. https://github.com/CarlFK/veyepar/blob/master/dj/scripts/addimg.py#L41 | 20:58 |
| tpb | Title: veyepar/dj/scripts/addimg.py at master · CarlFK/veyepar · GitHub (at github.com) | 20:58 |
| CarlFK | which is why that talk ended with with 2 sheets. it's data was found on two. | 20:59 |
| iiie | hm | 20:59 |
| iiie | nice! | 20:59 |
| CarlFK | http://veyepar.nextdayvideo.com/main/C/fosdem/S/fosdem_2014/ look at the img column on the right - all the 1's I am pretty sure are correct hits | 20:59 |
| tpb | <http://ln-s.net/AtEX> (at veyepar.nextdayvideo.com) | 20:59 |
| iiie | I'd try to slice the sheets down to just the talk | 20:59 |
| CarlFK | I was hoping someone would offer :D | 21:00 |
| iiie | he he he, we'll see | 21:00 |
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| pk__ | what is the nick of jahanzeb ahmed? | 21:08 |
| CarlFK | iiie: scary new feature: http://veyepar.nextdayvideo.com/main/approve/8118/Go_Devroom_Welcome/12405376/ un authenticated editing | 21:48 |
| tpb | <http://ln-s.net/AtHL> (at veyepar.nextdayvideo.com) | 21:48 |
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| * iiie disapproves of unauthenticated editing, are there revisions? | 22:21 | |
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| CarlFK | iiie: nope. | 22:26 |
| CarlFK | I am both giddy and annoyed | 22:27 |
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| iiie | what at? | 22:28 |
| iiie | different things? | 22:28 |
| CarlFK | unauthenticated editing | 22:28 |
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