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| mithro- | morning | 00:19 |
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| parx | carlfk are you still streaming ChiPy meetup tonight? | 16:35 |
| parx | bananadine and Sewar: this would be a good opportunity for you to see how it works | 16:37 |
| bananadine | hey | 16:37 |
| bananadine | how? | 16:37 |
| parx | hi : ) | 16:37 |
| bananadine | is there a link for the stream somewhere? | 16:38 |
| parx | when carlfk/mithro/iiie stream something, this irc channel is the place where they communicate about it in real time | 16:39 |
| parx | So you can "listen in" and ask questions. | 16:39 |
| CarlFK | parx: going to try.. not even sure where the meeting is yet ;/ | 16:39 |
| parx | bananadine: the link is different depending on the event but it's probably something like http://www.timvideos.us/chipy | 16:40 |
| tpb | Title: Streaming for ChiPy - Chicago Python User Group (at www.timvideos.us) | 16:40 |
| parx | banandine: it will be share in this channel | 16:40 |
| bananadine | cool | 16:40 |
| parx | carlfk: the address and business have been posted | 16:40 |
| bananadine | when does the meetup start? | 16:41 |
| parx | http://www.chipy.org/ | 16:41 |
| tpb | Title: Welcome (at www.chipy.org) | 16:41 |
| parx | 7pm central standard time | 16:42 |
| parx | what is your time zone, bananadine? | 16:42 |
| bananadine | UTC +1 | 16:43 |
| bananadine | Sarajevo, Skopje, Warsaw, Zagreb | 16:44 |
| parx | ah thanks | 16:44 |
| bananadine | so, from now to then | 16:44 |
| bananadine | how much time? | 16:44 |
| bananadine | something like 6 hours? | 16:45 |
| CarlFK | 7 | 16:45 |
| bananadine | alrght | 16:45 |
| CarlFK | but 6 will be when I start setting up and maybe testing | 16:45 |
| parx | Banaadine, so in 6 hours check in if you can | 16:45 |
| parx | *bananadine | 16:46 |
| bananadine | great, i'll try and be online | 16:46 |
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| Sewar | nice | 17:00 |
| Sewar | I saw last streaming event btw, it was great | 17:01 |
| Sewar | especially letting the user change the format as he want | 17:01 |
| parx | Great, you've been paying attention, Sewar. | 17:17 |
| parx | It's really important for our summer coders to spend time around this channel getting to know everyone. Don't be afraid to strike up a conversation (or share a cat gif)! You too, Hyades. :) | 17:17 |
| Sewar | :) | 17:19 |
| hyades | yeah | 17:19 |
| parx | CarlFK have you been to tonight's location before? Where: Open Software Integrators 119 N Peoria St. #2E Chicago, IL 60607 | 17:31 |
| parx | Patrick is supposed to be setting up a boxing ring. | 17:31 |
| CarlFK | owe. | 17:32 |
| CarlFK | you have an email address for him? | 17:32 |
| parx | idk how that's gonna work in an office! | 17:32 |
| parx | I don't think I do. Call Brian? | 17:34 |
| parx | Carlfk: Hey, he's best buddies with Brad who hosted the last Chipy. | 17:37 |
| CarlFK | heh | 17:37 |
| parx | You have Brad's info. | 17:37 |
| CarlFK | I'll post to chipy and cc brad | 17:37 |
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| parx | Hi iiie : ) | 19:47 |
| iiie | Hello and goodafternoon parx (and channel) | 19:47 |
| iiie | What have I missed? Is there streaming today that I can lend a hand in? | 19:48 |
| CarlFK | chipy | 19:48 |
| CarlFK | I haven't touched trist, so it is still raedy | 19:48 |
| iiie | (or are there org responsibilities to be discharged?) | 19:48 |
| iiie | roughly what time? | 19:49 |
| CarlFK | meeting starts in 4 hours. I'll shoot for getting there in 3 | 19:49 |
| iiie | 7pm and 6pm CST (CDT?) | 19:50 |
| CarlFK | right | 19:50 |
| parx | iiie, mithro- All three of our summer coders are going to try to tune in for setting up and streaming. | 19:52 |
| CarlFK | oh my :) | 19:53 |
| iiie | cool, not as exhaustive as setting up from scratch (nor as exhausting) | 19:54 |
| CarlFK | bb in 15 = lunch time | 19:55 |
| * iiie still hasn't gotten to the "turn on the host" script, or the "we're done, shut it down" script either | 19:55 | |
| iiie | yeah, lunch here too ;) | 19:55 |
| parx | The official coding period starts next Monday, so we have to get everyone up to speed for everything. | 19:56 |
| parx | Before then. | 19:56 |
| parx | Carlfk: that email address I gave you, did it work for Patrick? | 20:03 |
| CarlFK | du no - no rply but brian gave me the same one | 20:20 |
| * iiie is back from lunch | 21:12 | |
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| parx | I was just asked out for drinks in the classiest way ever. | 21:24 |
| parx | "It wouldn't suck if you came ;-)" | 21:24 |
| bananadine | lol | 21:24 |
| parx | right? | 21:25 |
| bananadine | true | 21:25 |
| bananadine | Does that imply that it would suck if you didn't came? | 21:27 |
| parx | Sound logic | 21:38 |
| parx | I suppose if it would suck without me, what's MY motivation for going? hmmm... | 21:41 |
| bananadine | My attempt at a joke: Are you a plug then? | 21:44 |
| bananadine | :-D | 21:44 |
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| parx | Thanks for the warning. I don't quite get the plug part... Oh wait! A plug stops the suction! | 21:59 |
| parx | lol | 21:59 |
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| bananadine | Yep | 22:02 |
| parx | good joke | 22:03 |
| bananadine | Thanks, just having something to talk about while i wait for the stream | 22:04 |
| parx | You guys could win brownie points by giving us the occasional good pun. iiie is most qualified to judge. | 22:07 |
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| bananadine | but is the stream gonna happen? | 22:54 |
| parx | Carlfk should be on his way to the venue right now | 22:56 |
| bananadine | ok great | 22:57 |
| parx | Or setting up the camera and other equipment. | 22:57 |
| parx | He'll pop back in here. | 23:01 |
| parx | iiie is responsible for much of the streaming work despite working remotely. iiie can explain way better than I can. | 23:03 |
| iiie | Right! | 23:04 |
| iiie | We have a couple of diagrams for how this works | 23:04 |
| parx | bananadine, hyades, sewar: I belong to another local meetup group that is streaming an event today, but theirs is starting in a few minutes. If you're interested in the comparison, click play here http://www.smartchicagocollaborative.org/livestream-brett-goldstein-of-chicagos-department-of-innovation-technology/ | 23:05 |
| iiie | Obviously we have a video source, in our case that's either a camera or a presenter's laptop | 23:05 |
| tpb | <http://ln-s.net/-GSP> (at www.smartchicagocollaborative.org) | 23:05 |
| iiie | that gets in to the mixer (a laptop running a video mixer, for now this is dv-switch) | 23:06 |
| iiie | flumotion is an encoding pipeline tool, we have an instance of that on site, and a plugin for it connects to the mixer and puts the audio and video in to a pipeline (or two) [our on site instance today will be on trist -- a laptop that you wouldn't want to code on -- keys are missing] | 23:08 |
| iiie | this on site flumotion instance (trist today) is called the collector | 23:08 |
| iiie | next in line there is an EC2 server also running flumotion which we call the encoder | 23:09 |
| iiie | the collector quickly encodes the raw audio and video that it gets from the mixer to something a little smaller (less bandwidth) | 23:10 |
| bananadine | and the other one encodes into what? | 23:10 |
| hyades | hey | 23:10 |
| iiie | the encoder makes a wider variety of formats available and actually send to the stream users (website visitors) | 23:10 |
| iiie | flash, webm, something for IOS (Apple not Cisco of course) | 23:11 |
| iiie | I don't know which encoder we're using today or if it's up. | 23:12 |
| iiie | We haven't been completely dismantling the encoders, we've just been turning them off. | 23:13 |
| iiie | As such we don't need to configure much when we need them. | 23:13 |
| iiie | mithro- configured them for PyCon, and we just keep using them | 23:13 |
| bananadine | Right | 23:14 |
| iiie | To keep things moving smoothly there are watch dog processes on the collector and encoder | 23:15 |
| bananadine | What do they do? | 23:15 |
| iiie | there is a register process on the encoder too, to register with the website (at some point this will get merged in to the watchdog and both will get into a service) | 23:15 |
| iiie | each pipe line element has a status of ... hm, the ones I remember are: waking, hungry, and happy | 23:16 |
| iiie | if enough of the pipe line elements aren't happy the watch dog sledge hammers the service (restart's flumotion) | 23:17 |
| bananadine | Oh | 23:17 |
| bananadine | Great, thanks for explaining | 23:19 |
| iiie | np, any points that I missed? | 23:19 |
| iiie | There is a configuration pusher too, but I haven't really used it. I think there might be a way to get some of that done almost without human intervention, but we're not there yet. | 23:22 |
| hyades | okay | 23:24 |
| iiie | Just checked (there's an api, we wrote a tool to check) and we don't have any of the encoders up yet. | 23:24 |
| iiie | time to write another script to turn on an encoder :) | 23:24 |
| parx | The other stream just started. Made me jump! | 23:24 |
| parx | The last Open Government Chicago event was streamed using Google Hangout. Wastes a lot of screen space, imho. | 23:34 |
| parx | I think they forgot to switch to the google account linked to the camera. | 23:40 |
| * parx is bugging the organizer... again. | 23:41 | |
| iiie | So... is CarlFK there? | 23:58 |
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