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iiie | mithro: when you get the chance any idea where I need to go for the "user action required" (I don't have the log.) | 00:38 |
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iiie | I have a connection (I got a message "This connection already exists." when trying to add a connection to timvideos) | 00:51 |
parx | Main dashboard > My connections should list your org (Timvideos.us) and your role. There's a drop down list for Status. It probably says User Action Required. Change it to Accepted. See #gsoc for program/mentor/student questions, #melange for website/technical problems | 01:44 |
parx | iiie: hope that helps | 01:45 |
iiie | Thanks parx! | 01:51 |
iiie | Any mailing lists I should be signing up for? | 01:54 |
parx | You may want to join the mentors group: https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups#!forum/google-summer-of-code-mentors-list | 02:06 |
parx | Not sure just how much you want but there's also an announce list and a discuss list. | 02:06 |
parx | https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups#!forum/google-summer-of-code-announce | 02:06 |
parx | https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups#!forum/google-summer-of-code-discuss | 02:06 |
tpb | <http://ln-s.net/-3vw> (at groups.google.com) | 02:06 |
tpb | <http://ln-s.net/-3vx> (at groups.google.com) | 02:06 |
tpb | <http://ln-s.net/-3vy> (at groups.google.com) | 02:06 |
parx | skay check this out https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/google-summer-of-code-mentors-list/ODxveVUtgFo | 02:13 |
tpb | <http://ln-s.net/-3w2> (at groups.google.com) | 02:13 |
mithro | hey iiie | 02:28 |
iiie | Present, parx got me pointed in the right direction | 02:29 |
mithro | skay, Highly likely to have someone in america | 02:29 |
mithro | iiie> On my desktop I intend to setup a site, collector and encoder each in their own virtual env. | 02:31 |
mithro | iiie, that won't work | 02:31 |
mithro | you can have the | 02:31 |
mithro | site + collector | 02:31 |
mithro | or site + encoder | 02:31 |
mithro | but not collector+encoder | 02:31 |
iiie | fine fine, how about with virtual machines? | 02:31 |
mithro | the collector and encoder are their own flumotion instances | 02:31 |
mithro | that should work fine | 02:32 |
mithro | I mean you could run a collector+encoder on a machine, you'd just have to combined the configurations | 02:32 |
iiie | yeah I remember there being flumotion on two of the three machines | 02:32 |
mithro | the website doesn't run flumotion | 02:32 |
mithro | I think it's diagram drawing time :P | 02:33 |
iiie | hm, would combined configs be reasonable? I don't think that would be worth the "yet another configuration" pain | 02:34 |
mithro | Eventually we need some type of "fake encoder" configuration | 02:36 |
mithro | which just has a video loop | 02:36 |
mithro | (for testing) | 02:36 |
iiie | for testing, and maybe for dead air | 02:37 |
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mithro | https://docs.google.com/a/mithis.com/drawings/d/1ZN5uqd-fo62e0IZSzuOSo6YadRY_n7umkUThmqckACA/edit | 02:47 |
tpb | <http://ln-s.net/-3wP> (at docs.google.com) | 02:47 |
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mithro | hi introom | 03:10 |
introom | hi | 03:11 |
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rodney757 | mithro: hello | 03:26 |
mithro | hi rodney757 | 03:26 |
mithro | so what do you want explained? | 03:26 |
rodney757 | I guess I'm not sure what the streaming system project idea is | 03:28 |
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mithro | rodney757, so the streaming system exists | 03:31 |
mithro | rodney757, your job would be to extend / improve it | 03:31 |
mithro | Infact I just finished a diagram of the system at - https://docs.google.com/a/mithis.com/drawings/d/1ZN5uqd-fo62e0IZSzuOSo6YadRY_n7umkUThmqckACA/edit | 03:31 |
tpb | <http://ln-s.net/-3wP> (at docs.google.com) | 03:31 |
mithro | skay, you'll be interested in that diagram too | 03:31 |
introom | this years gsoc is only realted to gstreamer? | 03:32 |
mithro | introom, we have projects related to gstreamer and projects unrelated to gstreamer | 03:32 |
introom | nice | 03:32 |
aps | hi mithro, is there any specific proposal format for timvideos? | 03:33 |
mithro | aps, have you seen our tips page? | 03:34 |
mithro | http://code.timvideos.us/Summer-Of-Code.html | 03:34 |
tpb | Title: Tim Videos - Getting Started! (at code.timvideos.us) | 03:34 |
aps | Yes, I've read instructions links given. | 03:34 |
mithro | aps, otherwise no | 03:34 |
aps | okay mithro. | 03:34 |
rodney757 | mithro: What are some of the things that timvideos would like to be improved with the streaming system? | 03:34 |
mithro | Tasks in the Streaming System Website project - https://github.com/timvideos/getting-started/issues?labels=website | 03:35 |
tpb | <http://ln-s.net/-3xB> (at github.com) | 03:35 |
mithro | https://github.com/timvideos/streaming-system/issues?labels=&page=1&state=open | 03:36 |
tpb | <http://ln-s.net/-3xC> (at github.com) | 03:36 |
rodney757 | ah. okay. the link from the ideas page was taking me to the first link that you sent me which had no issues for the given filters | 03:37 |
mithro | https://github.com/timvideos/getting-started/issues?labels=Project+-+Streaming+System+%28Website%29&page=1&state=open | 03:37 |
tpb | <http://ln-s.net/-3xD> (at github.com) | 03:38 |
mithro | gah, those links broken when I changed the format | 03:38 |
rodney757 | so it looks like the projects for the streaming system require js/html correct? | 03:42 |
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tvCommitBot | [getting-started] timvideos-website pushed 2 new commits to master: http://git.io/M01b5Q | 03:42 |
tvCommitBot | getting-started/master 46c5ae9 mithro: Updated Ideas (markdown) | 03:42 |
tvCommitBot | getting-started/master 1ef6aaf Tim 'mithro' Ansell: Merge branch 'master' of github.com:timvideos/getting-started.wiki | 03:42 |
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mithro | rodney757, if you wanted to work on the deployment stuff, that could be anything | 03:42 |
rodney757 | When you say the deployment stuff are you refering to some of the issues in the streaming-system repo? Or deployment stuff for the three projects listed under streaming system project filter in the getting-started repo? | 03:46 |
mithro | See https://github.com/timvideos/streaming-system/issues/34 | 03:47 |
tpb | <http://ln-s.net/-3xP> (at github.com) | 03:47 |
mithro | aps, btw did you get fake_register working? | 03:48 |
rodney757 | What is the dificulty of the projects? I don't want to get in over my head :) | 03:51 |
rodney757 | specifically https://github.com/timvideos/getting-started/issues/9 | 03:52 |
tpb | <http://ln-s.net/-3xR> (at github.com) | 03:52 |
mithro | rodney757, some are harder then others | 03:54 |
mithro | take a look at http://gstreamer.freedesktop.org/data/doc/gstreamer/head/manual/html/chapter-porting-1.0.html | 03:55 |
tpb | <http://ln-s.net/-3xU> (at gstreamer.freedesktop.org) | 03:55 |
mithro | doesn't really talk about the python api and how that has changed | 04:06 |
rodney757 | it says that you should be able to port simple applications in less then a day. So would probably need another project to go along with the porting? | 04:09 |
rodney757 | How long do you think it would take to port flomotion? | 04:09 |
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mithro | probably a good month or two | 04:11 |
aps | mithro, not completely. I run fake_register and get this output https://docs.google.com/document/d/16sPljVf79LO54DaX3LrDQQ6tgbDrvsroLXDjSUxlX2I/edit?usp=sharing | 04:14 |
tpb | <http://ln-s.net/-3xk> (at docs.google.com) | 04:14 |
mithro | okay | 04:15 |
mithro | the output is correct | 04:15 |
mithro | but as I was saying | 04:15 |
mithro | you are getting the "in room" view | 04:15 |
mithro | (We have a mode which stops people who are in the room from viewing the video) | 04:16 |
mithro | aps, try | 04:16 |
aps | so I need to check from some other pc on LAN? would that do? | 04:16 |
mithro | http://127.0.0.1:8000/av?template=group | 04:16 |
aps | okay, got it now | 04:17 |
mithro | want to paste a screen shot of that into your page? | 04:17 |
aps | sure, just a sec | 04:17 |
mithro | also would be great to update the docs about how you got it working | 04:17 |
mithro | btw hi mttpgrm! Is there anything I can help you with | 04:18 |
aps | mithro, added screen shot. I would update docs. | 04:20 |
aps | I should make changes in README file or create a wiki? | 04:21 |
mttpgrm | nothing in particular, mithro | 04:22 |
mithro | mttpgrm, your here for GSoC, or just interested? | 04:22 |
mttpgrm | i had been looking at a couple of the python project for gsoc and i thought i might be able to gain something by reading along in here while i was looking at the projects | 04:22 |
mttpgrm | :) | 04:22 |
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rodney757 | do you think that porting flomotion and the website to django's class based views would make for a good proposal? Or would that be too much for the summer? | 04:28 |
mithro | I would say that porting flumotion would be a good core proposal | 04:29 |
mithro | but have a bunch of "extra if I have time" ideas related to flumotion | 04:29 |
rodney757 | okay. thanks. I will look into the porting more | 04:35 |
mithro | rodney757, testing is going to be the hard part | 04:44 |
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tvCommitBot | [streaming-system] aps-sids opened pull request #36: Updated README (master...master) http://git.io/1mBA4w | 04:49 |
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mithro | aps, looking at your README pull request | 05:04 |
mithro | I don't understand the write permission thing? | 05:04 |
aps | when I used make serve to run server, it creates virtualenv for server. Now, since these folders dont have write permissions, fake_register couldn't write to sqlite database. | 05:06 |
mithro | ahh | 05:06 |
mithro | https://github.com/timvideos/streaming-system/pull/36/files#L0R34 | 05:07 |
tpb | <http://ln-s.net/-3yK> (at github.com) | 05:07 |
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tvCommitBot | [streaming-system] mithro pushed 3 new commits to master: http://git.io/wzVesw | 05:09 |
tvCommitBot | streaming-system/master b656cdb SIDS: Consolidated CSS files into one style.css | 05:09 |
tvCommitBot | streaming-system/master 8c033d3 SIDS: Consolidated CSS files into one style.css | 05:09 |
tvCommitBot | streaming-system/master f213632 Tim Ansell: Merge pull request #35 from aps-sids/consolidateCSS... | 05:09 |
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mithro | aps, good job on the pull requests | 05:12 |
mithro | aps, so what project are you thinking of working on? | 05:12 |
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mithro | btw you took a look at https://docs.google.com/a/mithis.com/drawings/d/1ZN5uqd-fo62e0IZSzuOSo6YadRY_n7umkUThmqckACA/edit right? | 05:12 |
tpb | <http://ln-s.net/-3wP> (at docs.google.com) | 05:12 |
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mithro | <mithro> btw you took a look at https://docs.google.com/a/mithis.com/drawings/d/1ZN5uqd-fo62e0IZSzuOSo6YadRY_n7umkUThmqckACA/edit right? | 05:15 |
tpb | <http://ln-s.net/-3wP> (at docs.google.com) | 05:15 |
mithro | oh and | 05:16 |
mithro | <mithro> aps, good job on the pull requests | 05:16 |
mithro | <mithro> aps, so what project are you thinking of working on? | 05:16 |
aps | thanks mithro, I am making proposal for "Adding bug-reporting and auto-debugging functionality in streaming system website for users who are facing problems with the stream." | 05:17 |
mithro | aps, okay - I'd recommend putting in a proposal ASAP so we can start giving feedback | 05:20 |
aps | Yes, I'm working on that only. It should be there by today. | 05:21 |
mithro | okay | 05:21 |
aps | mithro, did some corrections in README pull request. | 05:35 |
mithro | aps, it's triple backtick ``` | 05:36 |
mithro | aps, you should never change something to 777 either | 05:36 |
aps | oops | 05:36 |
mithro | can you also squash the commits? | 05:37 |
aps | yes, will do | 05:37 |
mithro | btw what is your umask? | 05:39 |
aps | 0002 | 05:43 |
mithro | aps, I'd like to get to the bottom of the permission issue | 05:48 |
mithro | could you do a fresh checkout and see if you get that issue again? | 05:53 |
aps | okay, let me stash the commits first. I'm reading about it. #noob | 05:54 |
aps | *squash | 05:55 |
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aps | mithro, I kind of messed it up. I had to delete and refork the repo. So please close that pull request, I'll send a new one. | 06:29 |
mithro | aps, okay | 07:08 |
mithro | I'll be back shortly | 07:08 |
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mithro- | hi bananadine | 11:45 |
mithro- | anything I can help you with? | 11:45 |
bananadine | hi | 11:45 |
bananadine | Should i just write here in the channel? | 11:45 |
mithro- | yeah here in the channel is fine | 11:54 |
mithro- | it means other people can reply too | 11:54 |
bananadine | well i'm kinda stuck with Tip 2 - Project First, Resume Second | 11:57 |
bananadine | i want to write a short description of the project | 11:57 |
bananadine | but i think i write it too short | 11:58 |
bananadine | can i paste it? | 12:01 |
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mithro- | the project is going to be longer then a short description | 12:25 |
mithro- | bananadine, sorry - I got distracted by reddit | 12:25 |
mithro- | bananadine, your going to want to include a timeline and milestones that you'll complete | 12:25 |
mithro- | and how we might want to evaluate those milestones | 12:25 |
mithro- | hello Juggerr, can I help you with anything? | 12:25 |
bananadine | oh yea, i will include a timeline | 12:26 |
bananadine | i was just wondering about a short description | 12:27 |
bananadine | but yea about that timeline... | 12:35 |
bananadine | how do i break down porting in a timeline? | 12:36 |
mithro- | bananadine, figure out what the major things which need to change | 12:36 |
mithro- | or how much you'll have to change for a minimal system to get working | 12:37 |
bananadine | i have some vague idea like: Find out where gstreamer is used in the code, get familiar with those parts of gst which are used in flumotion and start applying changes | 12:39 |
bananadine | oh and before applying changes, first see if it needs any change | 12:42 |
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mithro- | you should be finding out where gstreamer is used in the code now | 12:47 |
bananadine | already doing this, but i'll include it in my timeline as well | 12:51 |
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mithro- | hi pranjaldaga, can I help you? | 13:14 |
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pranjaldaga | hi mithro | 13:20 |
mithro- | wb hyades | 13:20 |
mithro- | pranjaldaga, here for GSoC or just generally interested? | 13:20 |
pranjaldaga | gsoc | 13:20 |
pranjaldaga | I, PRANJAL DAGA, currently B.Tech Computer Science and Engineering student, am really interested in taking up the project "Streaming System" listed on your Ideas Page | 13:21 |
pranjaldaga | mithro , can u help me out in how to proceed on with this idea? | 13:22 |
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mithro- | the "Streaming System" is an existing project that you can contribute too | 13:22 |
pranjaldaga | It has been included in the Ideas Page for gsoc | 13:23 |
pranjaldaga | so it must be a GSoC 2013 project, right? | 13:24 |
mithro- | pranjaldaga, your misreading the page | 13:34 |
mithro- | Ideas Page contains links and information about the ideas | 13:34 |
mithro- | for a bunch of projects under TimVideos.us | 13:34 |
bananadine | mithro, does the porting need to include the PyGtk parts or just PyGST? | 13:35 |
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pranjaldaga | can I have the list of project proposed by timvideos for GSoC 2013? | 13:35 |
mithro- | bananadine, the PyGtk parts shouldn't need changing | 13:35 |
bananadine | ok thanks | 13:36 |
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Juggerr | Hello | 13:58 |
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mithro- | hello Juggerr | 14:10 |
mithro- | can I help you with anything? | 14:10 |
Juggerr | Oh, I have decided write questions and info on github, because I have too many text for IRC | 14:14 |
CarlFK | morning folks | 14:17 |
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aps | hi mithro, i did a fresh checkout but folder permissions problem is not coming up now. So, I think it's better to change README to "If you get write error, do this.." What would be correct chmod values in case we need to change it? | 14:22 |
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mithro- | well, if I knew which folder/file was causing the problem | 14:23 |
mithro- | directory should be something like 755 | 14:23 |
mithro- | for a file it should be 644 unless it is suppose to be executable | 14:23 |
aps | basically virtualenv folders are created inside website directory. they cause problem if they dont have appropriate write permissions | 14:24 |
aps | there are some executables as well, 755 should be correct i guess. | 14:25 |
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bananadine | mithro, i was reading porting tips and saw that it's not only gst replaced by gi but also gobject | 14:29 |
mithro- | I don't know the specifics, so you'll have to explain that more | 14:29 |
bananadine | i opened flumotion/common/gstreamer.py | 14:30 |
bananadine | and there you have import gobject and import gst | 14:30 |
bananadine | which for the porting need to be replaced with import gi | 14:31 |
bananadine | according to this https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Novacut/GStreamer1.0#Python_Porting_Guide | 14:31 |
tpb | <http://ln-s.net/-46J> (at wiki.ubuntu.com) | 14:31 |
bananadine | specifically https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Novacut/GStreamer1.0#Imports | 14:31 |
tpb | <http://ln-s.net/-46L> (at wiki.ubuntu.com) | 14:32 |
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tvCommitBot | [streaming-system] aps-sids opened pull request #37: Updated README (master...master) http://git.io/csXVqw | 17:26 |
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