Wednesday, 2019-10-23

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OmniMancerHow would one find out how to help out with Project Tang?14:23
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hackerfooOmniMancer: You could talk to the people working on it.15:19
hackerfooOmniMancer: If you're talking about the Anlogic FPGA in the Lichee Tang, I don't know of such a project.15:58
OmniMancerI have found this: https://github.com/mmicko/prjtang16:13
tpbTitle: GitHub - mmicko/prjtang: Documenting the Anlogic FPGA bit-stream format. (at github.com)16:13
OmniMancerI will see if I can get in tough with the author then16:13
hackerfooOmniMancer: Thanks.16:14
hackerfooMany of the projects are by different people or groups, for example prjmistral (Cyclone V.)16:15
OmniMancerIndeed16:17
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litghostacomodi: Any results on which murax/picosoc nets are taking so long in the ROI-less graph?16:56
litghostThe results from my run last night were showing that 2 or 3 nets were massively misbehaving, so I think the hypothesis that certain nets are taking much more time may be borne out16:57
sf-slack<acomodi> @litghost I have not been able to get any meaningful results. I am currently running another build with the latest changes in arch-defs. It should end in a couple of hours. Did the net you found have to do with clocking trees?17:10
litghostacomodi: I haven't found the net specifically, only that I saw the router take a long time (e.g. ~1 hr) to reroute 3 nets17:11
litghostacomodi: That seems super excessive, and likely points to something going wrong17:11
litghostacomodi: I haven't investigated any further than that, hence why I was asking if you had found anything yet17:12
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mithrohttps://twitter.com/fpga_dave/status/118706974504614297719:43
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sf-slack<max> Does anyone have any experience with post routing simulation? I am doing work with asynchronous circuits as a research project, and having good delay estimates in simulation would be a huge help but I am having trouble finding anything in nextpnr or project trellis (using an ecp5).21:26
daveshahmax: I'm working on it, see https://github.com/YosysHQ/nextpnr/pull/34521:27
tpbTitle: Improve handling of top level IO and add SDF support by daveshah1 · Pull Request #345 · YosysHQ/nextpnr · GitHub (at github.com)21:27
daveshahI haven't tried it for ECP5 yet, some sim model changes will be needed but the nextpnr side should work for ECP5 too21:27
sf-slack<max> thats awesome! I'll have a look21:28
sf-slack<max> Ah, I was under the impression that icarus could reasonably handle sdf files. Not having an open source option may be an issue.21:30
daveshahSomeone just pointed out cvc as a possible option21:32
daveshahI haven't tried it myself yet21:32
sf-slack<max> I might give that a shot. Im using cocotb to generate tests just because it saves some time, but I reckon I will only need some basic test benches for post routing simulations.21:36
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