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| chrisjrn | last day! omg! | 00:11 |
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| MarkusH | yeah, 21:35 hours left to hand in my last proposal ... | 00:26 |
| MarkusH | that should be enough *g* | 00:26 |
| chrisjrn | sure :) | 00:59 |
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| chrisjrn | *looks at the proposal count* | 05:57 |
| chrisjrn | Keep submitting proposals, everyone! :D | 05:57 |
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| kandinski | ping | 08:14 |
| chrisjrn | kandinski: hello! | 08:15 |
| kandinski | chrisjrn, for presentations that could be short (just the what and why) or long (the what, how and why), is it reasonable to present them twice, once as a 25 minute preso, and once as a 45 minute preso? | 08:15 |
| kandinski | or would you rather I submit a 45 minute talk, then say I can excise the how bit, leave it at 25? | 08:15 |
| kandinski | also hello! | 08:16 |
| chrisjrn | So, not speaking as the entire programming committee | 08:16 |
| kandinski | I'm crazy homesick for Melbourne, it's insane. | 08:16 |
| kandinski | yeah, your preference is good. | 08:16 |
| kandinski | I'm enjoying Madrid so much, and homesick for Melbourne. Weird. | 08:17 |
| chrisjrn | I think submit both, and but make them independent | 08:17 |
| kandinski | independent? Like the other one doesn't exist? | 08:17 |
| chrisjrn | do *not* expect us to accept them both, or order them as expected | 08:17 |
| kandinski | no, of course, they would be almost identical, not reasonable to accept them both | 08:18 |
| chrisjrn | Oh ok | 08:18 |
| kandinski | one is "what how why", the second is "what why" | 08:18 |
| chrisjrn | well I think submit the 45 only | 08:18 |
| chrisjrn | and say that it could be cut down to 25 in specific ways | 08:18 |
| kandinski | the "how" is the bit that adds 20m to the 25m one | 08:18 |
| kandinski | right, I'll do that. | 08:18 |
| kandinski | where are you physically right now? | 08:19 |
| kandinski | you are a regular Carmen Sandiego | 08:19 |
| chrisjrn | Hobart! | 08:19 |
| kandinski | oh, cast against type! | 08:19 |
| kandinski | are you coming to EuroPython? | 08:19 |
| kandinski | I should say "going to EuroPython", since I won't be in Bilbao, but in Madrid | 08:19 |
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| chrisjrn | Nope, OSCON is on then | 08:20 |
| chrisjrn | and I don't have the wherewithal to go to EP | 08:20 |
| chrisjrn | maybe next year | 08:20 |
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| kandinski | is 2014.pycon-au.org offline? | 08:31 |
| chrisjrn | it is for the moment | 08:31 |
| chrisjrn | unfortunately | 08:31 |
| kandinski | ta | 08:31 |
| chrisjrn | http://web.archive.org/web/20140628120626/http://2014.pycon-au.org/ works | 08:31 |
| tpb | Title: PyCon Australia | August 1st-5th 2014 | Brisbane, Queensland (at web.archive.org) | 08:31 |
| kandinski | cool, thanks | 08:31 |
| kandinski | Got an HTTP 302 response at crawl time | 08:32 |
| kandinski | neat! | 08:32 |
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| AlecTaylor | hi | 09:34 |
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| chrisjrn | hey AlecTaylor | 09:35 |
| AlecTaylor | Just working on my presentation proposal, any chance for some early feedback? :) | 09:36 |
| chrisjrn | Yes indeed; notinh that I am on the programme committe, but do not represent them | 09:36 |
| kandinski | AlecTaylor: I'm not on the committee, but I was last year. | 09:37 |
| kandinski | So happy to help. | 09:37 |
| kandinski | I love the word committee | 09:37 |
| AlecTaylor | Great, I'll Pandoc my proposal and put it in a gist :) | 09:37 |
| chrisjrn | all of the double letters | 09:37 |
| kandinski | it feels such an achievement to be able to type it automatically | 09:37 |
| kandinski | Mississipee and Tennessee | 09:37 |
| kandinski | AlecTaylor: I have to leave the house to go fetch my girls from school. | 09:38 |
| kandinski | But I will be working on my own proposal until close to deadline too | 09:38 |
| kandinski | so back atcha in 90 min or so, if that's ok. | 09:38 |
| AlecTaylor | np | 09:38 |
| AlecTaylor | Maybe I'll have some dinner :P | 09:39 |
| kandinski | yeah, different strokes for different timezones | 09:39 |
| kandinski | afk | 09:39 |
| AlecTaylor | Parse errors FTW: pandoc: Cannot decode byte '\x95': Data.Text.Internal.Encoding.Fusion.streamUtf8 | 09:42 |
| AlecTaylor | : Invalid UTF-8 stream | 09:42 |
| AlecTaylor | Welcome to the real world :P | 09:42 |
| AlecTaylor | https://gist.github.com/SamuelMarks/f65622f3e6e3d8397e83 | 09:44 |
| tpb | Title: PyCon talk proposal (at gist.github.com) | 09:44 |
| AlecTaylor | Hard to know if it's more of a Linux Conference type talk, but I think there's sufficient Python focus for it to be of interest+relevance | 09:50 |
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| chrisjrn | AlecTaylor: it needs a lot more detail in the abstract -- I don't think I could assess the content of the talk from the abstract | 10:04 |
| chrisjrn | BUT I think the topic has merit | 10:05 |
| chrisjrn | (how to host your stuff in an interesting way) | 10:05 |
| AlecTaylor | :) | 10:12 |
| chrisjrn | So I think, make sure you explain the topic better in the abstract and that'll help a lot | 10:15 |
| AlecTaylor | Might throw in some marketing stuff to start it off also | 10:21 |
| chrisjrn | good luck :) | 10:24 |
| AlecTaylor | Thanks | 10:27 |
| kandinski | hi, back | 10:30 |
| kandinski | I too think the talk would sell better if the abstract talked about how being a Python user puts you in a good place to start using this kind of pipelines | 10:31 |
| kandinski | "because you are a Python user, you can use these great tools: Libcloud, Fabric, whateverelese_you're_using_that_has_python_in_it | 10:32 |
| kandinski | " | 10:32 |
| kandinski | I find many Markdown processors/editors, but I just need a viewer. Any recommendation for Ubuntu/Debian? | 10:52 |
| AlecTaylor | http://sourceforge.net/p/retext/home/ReText | 10:52 |
| tpb | Title: ReText / Home / ReText (at sourceforge.net) | 10:53 |
| kandinski | ta | 10:53 |
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| AlecTaylor | kandinski, chrisjrn: Thanks, I've taken your advice aboard; thought? - https://gist.github.com/SamuelMarks/f65622f3e6e3d8397e83 - Or does it need to be more expansive? | 11:03 |
| tpb | Title: PyCon talk proposal (at gist.github.com) | 11:03 |
| AlecTaylor | *thoughts | 11:03 |
| kandinski | the word Python does not even appear in the abstract | 11:03 |
| kandinski | unless either of us got the wrong link | 11:04 |
| kandinski | the private abstract is for clarifications for the committee, but think of how this presentation reads to someone attending a Python conference. I know Python is implicit in the fac tthat it's Pycon, but you need to establish the relationship IMHO. | 11:06 |
| kandinski | how does Python help me get portability and reduced cost | 11:06 |
| kandinski | how can I use Python to simplify these workflows? | 11:07 |
| AlecTaylor | For sure, okay, rewriting | 11:07 |
| kandinski | it seems like most of the software is in Go, but most of the stuff that you would customise would be in Python | 11:07 |
| kandinski | because I am reading the private abstract and because I also work doing devops (your stack is very similar to my own) | 11:07 |
| kandinski | but think how it looks to the Python person who knows nothing about devops but wants to learn | 11:08 |
| kandinski | also, change "which I have combined" to "which you can combine" | 11:09 |
| kandinski | it currently reads a bit for suits, "this is what I can do for you" | 11:09 |
| kandinski | and unless I am mistaken, Pycon attendants are more of the "I'm going to learn how I can do this for my clients/company/myself" | 11:10 |
| AlecTaylor | kandinski: Mmm, well everything I'm doing is open-source and well-documented. So it's more like saying "here's what I've done, enjoy" | 11:20 |
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| kandinski | I'm just reading the abstract. | 11:20 |
| * AlecTaylor is still rewriting | 11:21 | |
| kandinski | My suggestions are because the abstract does not communicate what the private abstract and your comments here do. | 11:21 |
| * AlecTaylor updated | 11:23 | |
| AlecTaylor | kandinski: Doesn't the private abstract give too much away? - Otherwise they'll just look at those components + my code and will be twiddling thumbs until question time! | 11:24 |
| kandinski | nah | 11:24 |
| kandinski | people go to the presentations to get the gist of things without having to spend lots of time reading documentation themselves | 11:24 |
| kandinski | I mean, I work doing devops, I would still attend to learn what it is that you are differently and why | 11:24 |
| kandinski | I don't understand why your private abstract is private, there is nothing sensitive | 11:26 |
| kandinski | the solution presented is entirely open-source | 11:26 |
| AlecTaylor | So remove the private abstract, and just append it all to the bottom? | 11:26 |
| kandinski | that's a selling point for the talk to the audience | 11:26 |
| AlecTaylor | kandinski: Yeah, everything is open-source | 11:26 |
| AlecTaylor | (and will be released in time for the conference) | 11:27 |
| kandinski | I don't know remove and just append, but I see no sensitive information there | 11:27 |
| kandinski | well, that is something that should be in the private abstract | 11:27 |
| kandinski | there is a certain amount of prevention around conference-based development | 11:27 |
| kandinski | my own proposal has a bit of that, but I offer browsable repos of work already done | 11:27 |
| kandinski | so it's clear that it's not vapourware | 11:28 |
| kandinski | ymmv | 11:28 |
| * AlecTaylor updated | 11:28 | |
| AlecTaylor | kandinski: Oh, I'm developing it for my own consultancy, unrelated to the conference | 11:29 |
| AlecTaylor | Selling point is integration, not the software itself | 11:29 |
| AlecTaylor | (so software will always be open-source, all components including dashboards) | 11:29 |
| kandinski | that is something for the private abstract | 11:33 |
| kandinski | roadmap, those assurances | 11:33 |
| AlecTaylor | Okay, will add that in. Thanks for the help | 11:33 |
| kandinski | nw | 11:33 |
| AlecTaylor | kandinski: Hmm, you think this is a 30 or 45 minute talk? | 11:40 |
| kandinski | I'm notoriously bad at this | 11:40 |
| kandinski | I mean, I think mine should be 45 and, with few exceptions, everybody else's should be 25 | 11:41 |
| kandinski | how I iterate through README versions: $ git add -u && git commit --amend -C HEAD && git push -f | 11:42 |
| kandinski | sad but true | 11:42 |
| AlecTaylor | Mmm, but from what you've seen of this, I'm guessing I should change it to 45 mins | 11:43 |
| kandinski | That is up to you, but I still see it as a 25min talk on a stack. Then again, I'm hardly the one to speak, since I am proposing a 45 min talk. | 11:44 |
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| zakiakhmad | hello all | 12:40 |
| zakiakhmad | where I can see lists of presentation slides from previous pycon-au? | 12:41 |
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| kandinski | I submit! | 13:20 |
| kandinski | pyvideo.org is your best bet | 13:20 |
| kandinski | zakiakhmad: pyvideo.org, then google for talk title is what I do | 13:20 |
| kandinski | oops, pushing to bitbucket takes bloody ages | 13:31 |
| zakiakhmad | kandinski: Did you submit proposal to pycon-au 2015? | 14:19 |
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| kandinski | oops, I was going to answer in the positive | 14:22 |
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