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| Holocaine | Whee. We did a go-around on approach to LAX. Pilot was significantly off the runway. | 02:29 |
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| chrisjrn | ... | 03:21 |
| Holocaine | As in laterally misaligned. | 03:22 |
| Holocaine | I'd love to know how that happened. | 03:22 |
| chrisjrn | ... | 03:22 |
| chrisjrn | in a 737? | 03:22 |
| Holocaine | Yep. | 03:22 |
| Holocaine | 73H | 03:22 |
| chrisjrn | that's bizarre | 03:22 |
| chrisjrn | really really bizarre | 03:22 |
| Holocaine | Anway, boardin' time. | 03:23 |
| chrisjrn | VA1? | 03:23 |
| chrisjrn | *VA2 | 03:26 |
| praetorian | o_O | 03:44 |
| praetorian | OH NO | 04:20 |
| praetorian | someone has purchased a business class seat on my flight onfriday !!!! | 04:21 |
| praetorian | and they choose 1D? wtf. | 04:21 |
| chrisjrn | Best aisle seat. | 04:23 |
| chrisjrn | No climber sitting next to you | 04:23 |
| praetorian | not. but the rest of the cabin is empty | 04:27 |
| praetorian | :/ | 04:27 |
| praetorian | *i meant nod* | 04:27 |
| chrisjrn | Right. If you want an aisle seat (lots of people do), then 1D's an excellent choice | 04:36 |
| praetorian | ok | 04:49 |
| chrisjrn | of course, I prefer windows :P | 04:50 |
| praetorian | nod | 07:19 |
| praetorian | she goes bang bang.. | 07:20 |
| praetorian | oh the way her tyres blow | 07:20 |
| hawkowl | man | 09:51 |
| hawkowl | you guys must be pretty fancy to be discussing which part of business class is better | 09:51 |
| hawkowl | here, I fly in a Fokker F100, and I hate^H^H^H^H LIKE it | 09:52 |
| hawkowl | (it is 100 seats of economy; no leg room; no business class) | 09:53 |
| chrisjrn | I know about the Fokkers | 09:54 |
| chrisjrn | they're actually pretty decent for an all-economy plane | 09:54 |
| hawkowl | better than what we had before | 09:54 |
| hawkowl | we had two companies - AirNorth and Skywest | 09:54 |
| hawkowl | AirNorth was prop planes | 09:54 |
| hawkowl | they replaced them with, iirc, fokkers | 09:55 |
| hawkowl | Skywest got bought by fuckin Virgin | 09:55 |
| hawkowl | but yes | 09:55 |
| hawkowl | they were known as ScareNorth for a while :D | 09:55 |
| chrisjrn | bahahaha | 09:55 |
| hawkowl | also, I resolved never to fly with them ever again | 09:56 |
| hawkowl | after I got stranded in Broome airport for six hours | 09:56 |
| hawkowl | it wasn't entirely their fault, but their handling of the situation was awful | 09:56 |
| hawkowl | what happened was that at my airport (KNX), someone had built their own Spitfire | 09:56 |
| hawkowl | and they tried to take off | 09:57 |
| hawkowl | it broke up, and it took six hours to clean up off the runway | 09:57 |
| chrisjrn | ... Oh, you're *there* :O | 09:57 |
| hawkowl | well, two hours, and then flights had to be rerouted, but, y'know | 09:57 |
| hawkowl | chrisjrn, did you just look up KNX? ;) | 09:57 |
| chrisjrn | yes | 09:57 |
| hawkowl | yes, I am 'there' | 09:58 |
| hawkowl | I was campaigning for shire councillor yesterday | 09:58 |
| hawkowl | spent 10 hours in the sun | 09:58 |
| hawkowl | every other WA council had 30C tops, we had 40C | 09:58 |
| chrisjrn | eek. | 09:59 |
| hawkowl | I got home, stood in the shower | 09:59 |
| hawkowl | water in the pipes was 30C | 09:59 |
| hawkowl | so I just got wet and stood in front of the aircon, let wind chill do it :P | 09:59 |
| chrisjrn | evaporative cooling is a wonderful thing | 10:00 |
| hawkowl | so yeah | 10:00 |
| hawkowl | newfound respect for outdoor workers | 10:00 |
| chrisjrn | especially in the Kimberley | 10:01 |
| hawkowl | also, newfound happiness for working inside | 10:01 |
| chrisjrn | :) | 10:01 |
| hawkowl | (even though working inside racks up a $350/month power bill) | 10:01 |
| hawkowl | wait, $400 last month | 10:01 |
| hawkowl | it's getting hotter, I can tell :D | 10:01 |
| chrisjrn | :P | 10:02 |
| hawkowl | chrisjrn, also, fun fact, from here to pycon is a 78 hour bus trip | 10:03 |
| chrisjrn | in Brisbane? | 10:03 |
| hawkowl | yep | 10:03 |
| hawkowl | KNX -> DAR then DAR-> BNE | 10:04 |
| chrisjrn | yup | 10:04 |
| hawkowl | also, it's *more expensive* than well-planned Qantas flights | 10:04 |
| hawkowl | I can get there and back for $1300, which surprises me | 10:04 |
| hawkowl | I've paid that for a flight to/from *Perth* | 10:05 |
| hawkowl | but oh well, it's a business expense | 10:05 |
| chrisjrn | Do KNX-DRW on Airnorth, and DRW-BNE on Virgin and that makes the routing & costs slightly less stupid | 10:07 |
| hawkowl | hmm, I didn't consider going through Darwin | 10:08 |
| chrisjrn | and if you feel compelled to, "I live $520 away from Darwin Airport" is a good case for financial aid | 10:08 |
| hawkowl | pycon's date is fixed, isn't it? | 10:09 |
| chrisjrn | yup, but I wouldn't plan anything until registrations open | 10:09 |
| hawkowl | ah, good idea | 10:09 |
| hawkowl | and yeah, I am considering applying for financial aid | 10:09 |
| hawkowl | since the costs are a bit... silly | 10:10 |
| chrisjrn | yeah. But basically, as per 2013's guidelines, which I hope 2014 adopts (see http://2013.pycon-au.org/grants) | 10:10 |
| tpb | Title: Financial Aid and Outreach - PyCon Australia | July 5-7 2013 | Hobart, Tasmania (at 2013.pycon-au.org) | 10:11 |
| chrisjrn | "Cases that would be looked upon favourably include, but are not limited to: | 10:11 |
| chrisjrn | Covering the difference in cost between travelling from a regional centre, and travelling from an Australian capital city | 10:11 |
| chrisjrn | " | 10:11 |
| hawkowl | yeah | 10:11 |
| hawkowl | /hopefully/ I should have accommodation sorted (since I have a friend or two there who actively offered it) | 10:12 |
| chrisjrn | that's always a good start | 10:12 |
| hawkowl | which makes the cost a bit less silly, but yeah, flights are still insane | 10:12 |
| chrisjrn | but yeah, getting a grant to get you to somewhere where airfares aren't stupid is something we could probably entertain | 10:12 |
| hawkowl | yeah, hopefully | 10:13 |
| hawkowl | I am also planning putting something in when CFPs open | 10:14 |
| chrisjrn | Even better | 10:14 |
| hawkowl | so then at least I'm going there for something more than just attending :P | 10:14 |
| hawkowl | travelling for confs is still a very weird concept for me | 10:14 |
| chrisjrn | but seriously, just attending is a good thing in itself | 10:14 |
| hawkowl | yeah | 10:15 |
| hawkowl | it's just something that's always stuck in my mind as 'something execs do' | 10:15 |
| hawkowl | since at oldwork, every exec was at confs like 10 weeks of every year | 10:15 |
| chrisjrn | oh right, yeah, this is something hopefully completely different to what those execs go to :P | 10:15 |
| hawkowl | yes, hopefully | 10:16 |
| hawkowl | they went to local government conferences | 10:16 |
| hawkowl | which I am assuming are as boring as hell | 10:16 |
| chrisjrn | we try to be a valuable learning and community-building experience etc etc etc | 10:16 |
| hawkowl | although, the WA local govt association can put on a party | 10:16 |
| chrisjrn | Oh, the execs go to confs so they can find people to drink with, and then expense their drinks :P | 10:16 |
| hawkowl | they once sent my supervisor a bottle of wine for some reason | 10:16 |
| hawkowl | then again, so did every second vendor | 10:16 |
| hawkowl | and at that point, he didn't drink wine, and I was underage | 10:17 |
| chrisjrn | hahaha | 10:17 |
| hawkowl | so we just had like five bottles of wine sitting in the office | 10:17 |
| hawkowl | that reminds me | 10:17 |
| hawkowl | oldwork used to have a thing on friday morning meetings | 10:17 |
| hawkowl | the "wine bottle" | 10:17 |
| chrisjrn | sounds dangerous | 10:17 |
| hawkowl | it was awarded for incredibly stupid deeds | 10:17 |
| hawkowl | which were printed on labels and stuck on it | 10:18 |
| hawkowl | and the person with the most at the end of the year got it | 10:18 |
| hawkowl | it had things on it like someone's car keys not working, so they called out the toyota guy | 10:18 |
| hawkowl | and as soon as he arrived, he realised that the keys he was trying to use were his personal car keys | 10:19 |
| chrisjrn | :D | 10:19 |
| hawkowl | and the time the at-the-time CEO lost a trailer on the highway | 10:19 |
| hawkowl | he left one town with it, arrived without it | 10:19 |
| hawkowl | it was great | 10:20 |
| hawkowl | then the new CEO abolished it for PC reasons :( | 10:20 |
| hawkowl | chrisjrn, right now I am trying to figure out what talk I want to propose | 10:21 |
| hawkowl | not sure if I go for the Mandatory Twisted Talk That Every PyCon Must Have | 10:21 |
| hawkowl | or something else | 10:21 |
| chrisjrn | You've got a long time to figure it out | 10:23 |
| chrisjrn | if it's a twisted talk, make it interesting and unusual | 10:23 |
| hawkowl | chrisjrn, you mean, make it... *sunglasses* twisted? | 10:23 |
| dangan | YEAHHHHHHHH! | 10:24 |
| chrisjrn | gosh | 10:24 |
| hawkowl | also | 10:24 |
| hawkowl | is there a ban on puns | 10:24 |
| hawkowl | in my talk | 10:24 |
| hawkowl | because puns will be a critical point of its title | 10:25 |
| chrisjrn | puns are acceptable | 10:25 |
| hawkowl | chrisjrn, so there's no punishment for them? | 10:25 |
| hawkowl | :D | 10:25 |
| chrisjrn | but if you cause the programme committee's heads to explode, then your talk probably won't get accepted | 10:25 |
| hawkowl | haha | 10:26 |
| hawkowl | "try to not make the committee hate you for it" | 10:26 |
| chrisjrn | but that's not punitive, it's just that their heads will be exploded | 10:26 |
| hawkowl | "it is detrimental to your talk's success" | 10:26 |
| chrisjrn | ha | 10:27 |
| hawkowl | i'm good at that, though | 10:29 |
| hawkowl | this last month has consisted entirely of trolling local government officials with the freedom of information act | 10:29 |
| chrisjrn | oh good | 10:29 |
| hawkowl | and them countertrolling me with stonewalling via corruption | 10:29 |
| hawkowl | i got something out of them, though! | 10:30 |
| hawkowl | the day BEFORE the election | 10:30 |
| hawkowl | without the correct documentation | 10:30 |
| hawkowl | but w/e | 10:30 |
| dangan | Sounds like Paris. | 10:30 |
| hawkowl | this is the reason why they were stonewalling me, and the reason why I wanted it > https://fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/1382346_220718648097477_334263954_n.jpg | 10:31 |
| hawkowl | note how the graph is craftily backwards, in order of time | 10:31 |
| chrisjrn | ... | 10:31 |
| chrisjrn | oh. dear | 10:31 |
| hawkowl | (that is a staff opinion survey) | 10:31 |
| hawkowl | https://fbcdn-sphotos-a-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn2/1384267_220718891430786_7406474_n.jpg | 10:32 |
| dangan | Personally, my opinion is about 58% | 10:32 |
| hawkowl | this is in the context of other councils | 10:32 |
| hawkowl | I want to be that one on the far left | 10:32 |
| chrisjrn | ha | 10:32 |
| hawkowl | that sounds like a local government that assigns you coffee machines at your desk and doesn't have a building made of asbestos | 10:32 |
| hawkowl | like ours was | 10:32 |
| hawkowl | dangan, it's a sumup of some 70 questions | 10:33 |
| hawkowl | how you know your leadership is working: when nearly half your company tell everyone they know not to work for you https://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn2/1377159_220718534764155_2031408092_n.jpg | 10:34 |
| hawkowl | (and on top of that, there's rumours that they're about to default...) | 10:36 |
| hawkowl | but anyway! | 10:36 |
| hawkowl | chrisjrn, i'll certainly have to think about my talk | 10:36 |
| chrisjrn | You've got a while! :P | 10:36 |
| hawkowl | friend said I should do something about how I got started with it, and all that | 10:37 |
| hawkowl | which may be interesting | 10:37 |
| hawkowl | (this was the friend that beat me over the head with Twisted when he discovered I was using node.js) | 10:37 |
| chrisjrn | :O | 10:37 |
| hawkowl | "node is dumb, you're stupid for using it, and in six months you will know why" | 10:38 |
| hawkowl | me, six months later: "ohhhh man, I dodged a bullet there" | 10:38 |
| hawkowl | but anyway, friends are calling me (apparently I have those?), so toodles~ | 10:39 |
| chrisjrn | :) | 10:39 |
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