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| chrisjrn | Holocaine: If I run, I'd almost certainly have three tickets, each preferencing the three major parties | 09:52 |
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| Holocaine | The SEP "my vote means nothing after me" approach. | 09:53 |
| chrisjrn | SEP? | 09:53 |
| Holocaine | Socialist Equality Party. | 09:54 |
| chrisjrn | My line would be "put me first, and then vote for who you want, but if you vote above the line, then your vote is for me and me alone" | 09:54 |
| Holocaine | The file three tickets. Ticket #1 (for argument's sake) goes them and then Greens and then the rest of the ballot in order from there. Ticket #2 does the same except ALP, ticket #3 is the same except Coalition. | 09:54 |
| chrisjrn | Oh, mine would throw ALP -> LIB -> GRN in a circle | 09:55 |
| chrisjrn | make sure all preferences are absorbed | 09:55 |
| Holocaine | Maybe we should form a non-party and I'll run in Vic. =) | 09:58 |
| Holocaine | "We don't commit to agreeing all the time but we're generally supportive of the others' views." | 09:58 |
| chrisjrn | I'm planning on forming a non-party | 09:58 |
| chrisjrn | solely because you need two candidates to form a non-encumbent GVT | 09:59 |
| Holocaine | Well you can run unendorsed but it's the equivalent of using your ISP email address as your business email. | 09:59 |
| chrisjrn | You can name a GVT, no? | 09:59 |
| Holocaine | Only if you're a party. | 10:00 |
| Holocaine | Registered. | 10:00 |
| Holocaine | Otherwise you'd be UNENDORSED - NEUGEBAUER, Christopher | 10:00 |
| chrisjrn | No, you aren't | 10:00 |
| chrisjrn | you're allowed to list yourself as Independent | 10:00 |
| Holocaine | Well, blank on the form. | 10:00 |
| Holocaine | You can have a group as an indie. | 10:01 |
| Holocaine | But you can't name the group as an indie. | 10:01 |
| chrisjrn | right | 10:01 |
| chrisjrn | Fees are higher if you want to create a party though, right? | 10:01 |
| Holocaine | So you'd need to register the Generic Progressive Party. | 10:01 |
| Holocaine | Or somesuch. | 10:02 |
| chrisjrn | "That Electoral Group" | 10:02 |
| Holocaine | Well you need 500 signatures and a four-figure fee to register as a party, then there's the nomination fees for running. | 10:02 |
| Holocaine | That said, I'm fairly sure that between us and the people we know we could get everything we needed together. | 10:02 |
| chrisjrn | Run a Pozible? | 10:03 |
| chrisjrn | :P | 10:03 |
| Holocaine | That too. | 10:03 |
| chrisjrn | Could be fun | 10:04 |
| Holocaine | The No Relation Party. | 10:05 |
| chrisjrn | Anyway, I'm pretty convinced that it'll be a DD election next time around -- there's no way that Abbott wouldn't burn political capital to dismiss an unworkable senate | 10:05 |
| Holocaine | Depends on how unworkable. | 10:06 |
| Holocaine | If the Greens don't have balance of power then he just has to corral a pack of nutbags. | 10:06 |
| chrisjrn | 8 political blocs on the cross benches? | 10:06 |
| Holocaine | Depending on the nutbags, getting the carbon tax stuff through wouldn't be hard. | 10:06 |
| Holocaine | Pretty sure he could buy them off to get an NBNCo sale through. | 10:07 |
| chrisjrn | Xenophon; DLP; 2x Palmer; 1x Sports; 1x Motoring; 1xLDP; 1xFFP; Greens | 10:07 |
| chrisjrn | Three of them have absolutely no political experience | 10:07 |
| Holocaine | Xenophon, Palmer, Motoring, LDP and FFP would all fuck off the carbon tax. | 10:07 |
| chrisjrn | Xenophon wouldn't | 10:07 |
| Holocaine | And anyway, that's not concrete numbers yet. | 10:08 |
| chrisjrn | because he fundamentally disagrees with the Coalition's alternative | 10:08 |
| Holocaine | So they put it through as two separate bills. | 10:08 |
| Holocaine | I'm fairly sure Tony won't weep if he has to do nothing. | 10:08 |
| chrisjrn | I doubt Xenophon would vote in favour of repeal of carbon tax with no alternative on the table | 10:09 |
| Holocaine | He's one vote. | 10:09 |
| Holocaine | The DLP could be bought, most likely. | 10:09 |
| chrisjrn | it's true | 10:09 |
| chrisjrn | DLP doesn't need to be bought on Carbon tax | 10:09 |
| chrisjrn | I reckon budgets might be more of a pain | 10:10 |
| Holocaine | Ram the tax repeal through, put up Direct Bullshit as a separate bill, gets knocked back, gets to run the "Greens are hypocrits" line, goes to bed a happy man. | 10:10 |
| chrisjrn | paying off a pile of special interests | 10:10 |
| chrisjrn | Anyway. I reckon a DD's pretty certain, and I figure a quota would be pretty easy to attain in Tas under those circumstances | 10:15 |
| Holocaine | Like I said, depends on the nutbags. | 10:15 |
| chrisjrn | just have to figure out a platform that can get enough major party preferences | 10:15 |
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| chrisjrn | praetorian: evening | 11:55 |
| praetorian | yo | 11:56 |
| chrisjrn | it is the F1 time! | 11:56 |
| praetorian | tis! | 11:56 |
| praetorian | tho im going to be so distracted via it | 11:56 |
| praetorian | trying to get a website back online at work | 11:56 |
| chrisjrn | hrrm? | 11:56 |
| praetorian | internal one. | 11:56 |
| chrisjrn | euugh | 11:56 |
| praetorian | it died.. on saturday afternoon... hdd dead | 11:56 |
| praetorian | no backups! | 11:56 |
| praetorian | but i had a copy of the database from may .. thankfully | 11:56 |
| praetorian | so im using log files to try and piece together what is missing | 11:57 |
| praetorian | o_O | 11:57 |
| praetorian | this is confusing | 12:02 |
| praetorian | i think someone.. rather then creating a new report each time.. | 12:02 |
| praetorian | updates the old one with new details | 12:02 |
| praetorian | i.e. i have this, first one is from the log, second is from my db from may | 12:02 |
| praetorian | Daily Sales - The Wiggles - WEC | 12:02 |
| praetorian | Daily Sales - ICRL Final Series - WIN | 12:02 |
| praetorian | same id. | 12:02 |
| chrisjrn | It's time! | 12:03 |
| praetorian | wow | 12:04 |
| praetorian | OMG SHE IS | 12:04 |
| praetorian | what a stupid stupid person this is | 12:04 |
| praetorian | i think paul's missing some car | 12:05 |
| chrisjrn | A fair bit of car, it seems | 12:05 |
| praetorian | hamilton is going to be quiet all race | 12:16 |
| praetorian | going to be great | 12:16 |
| chrisjrn | he's going to lose his tyres because he can't read his pit board | 12:23 |
| chrisjrn | too late :P | 12:23 |
| praetorian | heh | 12:27 |
| praetorian | man. | 12:27 |
| praetorian | it seems people dont create new ones.. they just ..u pdate old ones | 12:27 |
| praetorian | how whacked | 12:27 |
| praetorian | why?! | 12:27 |
| chrisjrn | Competence! | 12:32 |
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