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| h01ger_ | skay, i have an x1 carbon and am quite happy, though usb-ethernet is so lala. the weight otoh is totally awesome... (and the power anyway) | 10:28 |
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| daven | didn't realise the X1 had USB ethernet | 12:45 |
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| CarlFK | skay (05:28:13 AM) h01ger_: skay, i have an x1 carbon and am quite happy, though usb-ethernet is so lala. the weight otoh is totally awesome... (and the power anyway) | 14:52 |
| CarlFK | skay_: and what bucket should I use for ps1? | 14:53 |
| skay | CarlFK: yeah, saw h01ger_'s msg in my hilight window :) | 14:53 |
| CarlFK | 3 vids, 5 min each - I am thinking Ill just use the ndv bucket for stuff like that till it flls up | 14:54 |
| * h01ger_ waves | 14:54 | |
| skay | CarlFK: I thought your ndv bucket filled up? is it 10gb? >10gb is frowny | 14:54 |
| CarlFK | I did to, then I accidentally put more in it | 14:54 |
| skay | make an ndvpumpingstationone bucket | 14:54 |
| CarlFK | nextdotdaydotvideoslashpumpintdotstationdotone | 14:55 |
| skay | that way you don't take over the namespace that should rightfully belong to ps1 | 14:55 |
| CarlFK | nextdotdaydotvideoslashpumpintdotstationdotonedotorgslashvideosslashthreespacehunderedspacesecdondsspaceofspacefame | 14:56 |
| skay | no, see. if someone is gonna make a pumpingstationone, ps1, ps312one Ps:One or other established way to refer to ps1 it should be ps1 | 14:56 |
| CarlFK | ndvps1 ? | 14:57 |
| skay | yeah, that's nice to type | 14:57 |
| skay | I only have so many characters left in me | 14:57 |
| skay | :) | 14:57 |
| CarlFK | I wonder if buckets can have slashes | 14:57 |
| skay | probably a bad idea even if they can | 14:57 |
| * skay waves at h01ger_ | 14:57 | |
| skay | wtf pip install nikola worked on my mac but not on my rackspace machine? | 14:58 |
| skay | and it was because pillow build failed | 14:59 |
| skay | wtf, if that was going to fail I would have bet it would fail on my mac | 14:59 |
| skay | crazy world. what is this crazy world | 14:59 |
| CarlFK | one of the node talks ... was more about personal time management or something.. "my key strokes are limited. I want to get the best use out of them, so I don't send email any more because only one person will read it. If I am going to type, Ill make a blog post so more people can read it. " | 14:59 |
| skay | oh that is interesting | 14:59 |
| skay | at work, I update a status wiki page in case the guys in France ever want to know what I am up to. Then I email Victoria a link to it and recap very short in hte email | 15:00 |
| CarlFK | I should put the generic make_bucket in archive_upload, right ? | 15:00 |
| skay | I thought that was a fantastic idea until I found out due to some other email chain that she hadn't been loged in to github (so she couldn't see private repos) | 15:01 |
| skay | which probably means she never read the full statuses | 15:01 |
| skay | Yeah, I think make_bucket would go in archive_upload? | 15:01 |
| skay | I'm not sure. it depends | 15:01 |
| skay | archive_upload is your archive api interface, sort of... | 15:02 |
| skay | how are you going to call make_bucket? and also, make_bucket is generic, but you are really making a bucket for a show, or maybe later, an event | 15:03 |
| CarlFK | its my stand alone code.. and I don't feel like making a 2nd .py file just for make_bucket | 15:03 |
| skay | bear with me while I think this out | 15:03 |
| skay | I know I know... I've got to think this out | 15:03 |
| skay | I'll be reight back I have to yak shave | 15:04 |
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| CarlFK | skay pip install what? I'll run it on a crash box | 15:18 |
| skay | pip install nikola | 15:18 |
| CarlFK | error ... /home/juser/.virtualenvs/test1/build/lxml/src/lxml/includes/etree_defs.h:9:31: fatal error: libxml/xmlversion.h: No such file or directory | 15:21 |
| CarlFK | that was on saucy | 15:21 |
| skay | ha, mine was _imaging.c:75:20: fatal error: Python.h: No such file or directory | 15:21 |
| CarlFK | (test1)juser@dhcp189:~$ apt-cache policy python-dev | 15:22 |
| CarlFK | Installed: 2.7.4-0ubuntu1 | 15:22 |
| CarlFK | pretty sure that's why I got past that | 15:22 |
| CarlFK | hmmm.. I wish there was a way to tell pip not to try to compile anything .. just error right away | 15:23 |
| skay | how would it know to error? | 15:23 |
| skay | wouldn't it need to start compiling to see that headers are missing? | 15:24 |
| CarlFK | yeah, I was just realizing the packages would need to expose that little detail | 15:25 |
| CarlFK | my solution to lxml and pip compile errors is to apt-get install python-whatever | 15:26 |
| CarlFK | hmm, also I use mkvirtualinv --system-site-packages foo - otherwise you don't get python-lxml | 15:29 |
| CarlFK | mkvirtualenv --system-site-packages test2; pip install nikola; Successfully installed nikola doit docutils unidecode yapsy PyRSS2Gen pytz configparser | 15:29 |
| skay | CarlFK: I made this awesome sequence diagram for you http://vegetablegargoyle.com/wiki/Main_Page | 15:42 |
| tpb | Title: VegetableGargoyle (at vegetablegargoyle.com) | 15:42 |
| skay | yeah, bucket stuff goes in archive_uploader, I just had to think about it to make sure. | 15:42 |
| skay | and also show off the googy websequencediagram napkin image | 15:43 |
| skay | too bad they seem to have been acquired by the freemium monster | 15:43 |
| skay | okay, I gave it it's own page http://vegetablegargoyle.com/wiki/Carl_talks_to_the_internet_archive | 15:45 |
| tpb | <http://ln-s.net/-AiQ> (at vegetablegargoyle.com) | 15:45 |
| CarlFK | freemium monster? | 15:47 |
| CarlFK | http://vegetablegargoyle.com/wiki/Carl_talks_to_the_internet_archive there's the diagram :_ | 15:48 |
| tpb | <http://ln-s.net/-AiQ> (at vegetablegargoyle.com) | 15:48 |
| CarlFK | :) | 15:48 |
| skay | I added another diagram for you at the bottom | 15:49 |
| skay | arg they broke | 15:51 |
| skay | let me save cached copies | 15:52 |
| skay | I saved images to files | 16:15 |
| CarlFK | archive_uploader shouldn't know about orm or any veyepar stuff. except passwords, but thats pretty standalone too, so doesn't count | 16:16 |
| skay | hmm. it needs to know the data model | 16:17 |
| CarlFK | post_archive knows .. which you don't have | 16:18 |
| skay | how does it get called? oh yeah, okay | 16:18 |
| CarlFK | I think you swapped my two layers | 16:18 |
| CarlFK | is yuor IA my code or their server ? | 16:18 |
| skay | IA their server | 16:18 |
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| CarlFK | I love these diagrams | 16:19 |
| skay | me too. freemium means they took away things that were once usable to give you basic services for free, and to make you pay for the more advanced services | 16:20 |
| skay | they were so cool before | 16:20 |
| skay | I guess I will go back to using awesome asci diagrams | 16:20 |
| skay | I had a drawwing program for that | 16:20 |
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| skay | CarlFK: (oh btw I updated hte pictures http://vegetablegargoyle.com/wiki/Carl_talks_to_the_internet_archive ) | 17:23 |
| tpb | <http://ln-s.net/-AiQ> (at vegetablegargoyle.com) | 17:23 |
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| CarlFK | lol bobcats! | 17:38 |
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| iiie | bobcats? what'd I miss? | 17:52 |
| skay | iiie: I made a sequence diagram for Carl http://vegetablegargoyle.com/wiki/Carl_talks_to_the_internet_archive | 17:53 |
| tpb | <http://ln-s.net/-AiQ> (at vegetablegargoyle.com) | 17:53 |
| iiie | nice! | 17:56 |
| skay | iiie: it is how I design things! | 17:58 |
| skay | I try not to write diagrams like that at work though, or where I worked | 17:58 |
| skay | possibly I should narrate things like that in any future interviews, however | 17:59 |
| iiie | I often build things from rather poorer diagrams | 17:59 |
| skay | I suck at drawing so I like websequencediagram because it makes them for you. but that is how I think in my hdead | 17:59 |
| iiie | have you seen the rockets describe in the 1000 most common words? | 17:59 |
| skay | I saw that, but haven't tried using it | 17:59 |
| skay | I have an ascii drawing program, if it helps you | 18:00 |
| skay | javE | 18:00 |
| iiie | it's a bit too extreme, but I like the idea | 18:00 |
| skay | the up-goer | 18:00 |
| iiie | ha ha ha, no, drawing is not the poor part of the diagrams I work off of | 18:00 |
| skay | :) | 18:01 |
| skay | sometimes I have boxes. that are post it notes. and I stick them around on the table | 18:01 |
| skay | because I get them int he wrong order | 18:02 |
| iiie | we used to diagram by post-it, and record by camera / smart-phone. It's the worst of almost any world. | 18:02 |
| CarlFK | http://dpaste.de/QEk3W/ skay - proof that before I create ps1 bucket plz | 18:05 |
| tpb | Title: dpaste.de: Snippet #228961 (at dpaste.de) | 18:05 |
| CarlFK | the bottom has the ..u.mmm.. values | 18:05 |
| skay | our mission statement uses Oxford commas, cool | 18:06 |
| skay | CarlFK: okay I think | 18:08 |
| CarlFK | <Bucket: ndvps1> yay | 18:11 |
| skay | http://archive.org/details/ndvps1 | 18:12 |
| tpb | Title: ndvps1 : Free Download & Streaming : Internet Archive (at archive.org) | 18:12 |
| CarlFK | gah,... I can't figure out where this should live: 'bucket_id':'ndvps1', | 18:16 |
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