Friday, 2014-03-21

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jasvirmadrazr: so, we can continue with difflib?00:05
madrazrjasvir: sure00:05
madrazrif that works00:05
jasvirmadrazr: It'll work. And I also feels that it is really good.00:07
madrazrjasvir: fair enough, if you say so00:07
jasvirmadrazr: Ok.00:08
jasvirmadrazr: In proposal, what can be the maximum length of a milestone?00:09
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ashishkmadrazr: hi00:16
madrazrjasvir: I am not sure I understand your question00:17
madrazrlength of a milestone?00:17
madrazrashishk: Hi00:17
jasvirmadrazr: In timeline, we specify milestone of our project. june 19 - june 24 --00:18
jasvirmadrazr: I am asking, what can be maximum length? 7 days, 10 days or any?00:18
ashishkmadrazr: in admin dashboard->edit organization application   there is a drop down add new field , it is the field program admin want organization to fill when they want to submit the questionnaire .00:19
ashishk*when organization try to submit the questionnaire00:19
madrazrjasvir: whatever you choose it to be00:21
madrazrjasvir: we don't have a guideline for that00:21
madrazrjasvir: personally, if it was my proposal I would write weekly milestones00:22
jasvirmadrazr: ok00:22
madrazra week is neither too long nor too short and periodic enough to track it well00:22
ashishkmadrazr: I am thinking to add an extra field where admin can add the sub text with the label of the field ??00:22
madrazrashishk: what problem is it going to solve?00:23
madrazrashishk: I don't remember our program admins ever complaining about not having it00:23
madrazrashishk: and our program admins are pretty good at asking for features that they want00:24
ashishkmadrazr: It is a kind of enhancement which will help organization to understand about the field in detail00:24
madrazrI don't think it adds any value00:24
madrazrashishk: I wouldn't bother until someone complains about it00:25
madrazrI haven't heard of any complaints00:25
madrazralso labels in surveys are not exactly used as labels00:25
madrazrthey are actually written as questions that explains itself well00:26
madrazrI don't see a need for additional sub text00:26
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ashishkmadrazr:okay, i was thinking it as other field in profile form :p00:26
madrazrashishk: other field?00:26
ashishkmadrazr: like organization name etc. they have sub-text with the field00:27
madrazrashishk: Ah I see00:27
madrazrashishk: that is because in those forms, labels are literally labels00:28
madrazrthey are not clear questions00:28
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ashishkmadrazr:  one more thing that i noticed ,When student tries to submit the proposal without filling enrollment form he is shown an exception message00:32
ashishkmadrazr:this message should contain a link to enrollment form right ??00:33
ashishkmadrazr: I think we had a discussion on this regarding issue 193000:33
madrazrashishk: didn't somebody already fix that?00:34
madrazrI think there was a patch for it somewhere already00:34
ashishkmadrazr: yeah,daniel had fixed it but i think the exception message still do not contain any link to enrollment form00:36
ashishkmadrazr:I had submitted a patch where i had write a subclass of builtin string type which will send the message from the views based on type whether message will be shown as safe or not .00:41
ashishk*written00:41
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ashishkmadrazr: sorry,got disconnected :p00:47
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madrazrashishk: what happened to that patch?00:49
ashishkmadrazr: First we are discussing on this https://groups.google.com/forum/#!searchin/melange-soc-issues/issue$201930/melange-soc-issues/C-i45MlEE3I/k-o1F3paVoIJ00:51
tpb<http://ln-s.net/BQ35> (at groups.google.com)00:51
ashishkmadrazr: after that, I think daniel fixed the issue as It was urgent00:51
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ashishkmadrazr: but the issue is not completely fixed yet.00:52
ashishkmadrazr: here is the link for the discussion on dev list https://groups.google.com/forum/#!searchin/melange-soc-dev/issue$201930/melange-soc-dev/qEZJS1NBzLY/7TtLphYG_KkJ00:53
tpb<http://ln-s.net/BQ3:> (at groups.google.com)00:53
madrazrashishk: I know that thread00:54
madrazrwhat about it?00:54
madrazrI was hoping someone had acted on it already00:54
madrazrbut looks like it is still pending00:55
ashishkmadrazr: After that i did not get any comments on my patch00:56
ashishkmadrazr: But daniel had fixed the issue00:56
ashishkmadrazr: But It is still pending00:57
madrazrashishk: if there is no link the enrollment form00:57
madrazrit is still not fully fixed yet00:57
ashishkmadrazr: yes,you are right00:57
ashishkmadrazr: We need to fix it right00:59
madrazrashishk: yes!01:00
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ashishkmadrazr: please have a look at my submitted patch if that will work ??01:02
madrazrashishk: not right now for sure01:02
madrazrI have other more critical things to take care of right now01:02
ashishkmadrazr: ok,see it when you are free01:03
ashishkmadrazr: :001:03
ashishk:)01:03
ashishkmadrazr: need to sleep , have class after 4 hours,it is too late today , bye01:04
madrazrashishk: bye gn01:05
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jasvirmadrazr: I want to give a appropriate title to my proposal. But not able to decide one. Currently, title is "implementing diff feature".03:40
madrazrjasvir: good enough03:40
madrazrwe don't select based on sensational newspaper style headlines03:40
madrazr:P03:40
jasvirmadrazr: But I have another title in my mind, "Proposal Version Control(PVC)".03:40
jasvirmadrazr: :D03:41
jasvirmadrazr: Ok03:41
madrazrjasvir: what really matters is your proposal quality03:41
madrazrnot how dramatic it is03:41
jasvirmadrazr: Ok :)03:42
madrazrjasvir: Oh btw, not just the proposal too03:42
madrazrjasvir: the patches you have sent03:42
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madrazrtheir quality03:42
madrazrgenerally how well you understand our development process03:42
madrazrall that matters03:42
madrazrand also03:43
madrazrmost of the times03:43
madrazrwe get fewer slots than the good proposals we get03:43
madrazrwe need to make a decision03:43
madrazrso there are lots of factors03:44
jasvirmadrazr: Have you read my proposal?03:44
madrazrand how dramatic your proposal is, is definitely not the one03:44
madrazrnot yet03:44
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jasvirmadrazr: I need your views. I know I can update it later too, but I wish to know your views :)03:45
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madrazrjasvir: I wish I could give some useful insights into all of you who have been actively working on Melange already03:46
madrazrbad timing is03:46
jasvirmadrazr: I can understand.03:47
madrazrI have things to take care at my full time work that is even more urgent03:47
jasvirmadrazr: I'll divide my timeline in weekly manner by today and hope that you'll like it :)03:47
madrazrand that is exactly overlapping with the GSoC student proposals timeline03:47
madrazrjasvir: cool03:48
jasvirmadrazr: For me too, proposal writing period overlaps with exams :P03:48
jasvirmadrazr: but enjoying this hard work :)03:48
madrazrjasvir: good, that is important03:49
madrazrenjoying I mean03:49
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rusnicDear Mentors, with only 12 hours left i am looking for feedbacks so that i can review my proposal on those line. Thanks in advance :) http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/proposal/public/google/gsoc2014/russelnickson/564905022534451205:50
tpb<http://ln-s.net/BQA5> (at www.google-melange.com)05:50
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polychron I submitted my proposal with the content as a HTML source. But when I preview the  proposal  I get to see all the HTML. It is not being rendered. Is this normal?09:44
polychronPublic URL: http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/proposal/public/google/gsoc2014/anuroopkuppam/562949953421312009:45
tpb<http://ln-s.net/BQL-> (at www.google-melange.com)09:45
pchaignopolychron: how did you paste it?09:50
pchaignopolychron: did you use the 'Edit HTML source' button?09:51
polychronpchaigo, got it I pasted it directly rather than using the HTML source window09:54
polychronpchaigno, but some tags like <pre> dont seem to get rendered properly.09:54
ollypolychron: that may be tinymce mangling the html, or might be the CSS on melange09:55
pchaignopolychron: you can try to override the css by using a style attribute on your elements09:55
polychronolly, yes the CSS classes that I have created are not being used. :(09:55
pchaignopolychron: it's not pretty but it may work ;)09:56
polychronpchaigno, I have to give style attribute to every tag, now09:57
pchaignopolychron: I'm afraid so; that's what I did.09:58
polychronpchaigno, It did work in the end right? I dont want to drive into a dead end.09:59
pchaignopolychron: but you better spend time on the content rather than on the style I'd say.09:59
pchaignopolychron: yep it worked, it was just for a table that was missing some borders09:59
pchaignopolychron: you can try with a small sample at first09:59
polychronI think I will edit the content itself. There are more than 40 classes that I have created.10:00
polychronpchaigno, thank you very much10:01
pchaignopolychron: yw10:01
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rusnici have made a design for the new homepage design for www.google-melange.com :) Please check it out @ http://www.russel.in/gsoc-mockup/ and let me know your feedback.11:32
tpbTitle: Gsoc - Mockup (at www.russel.in)11:32
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priyanka_I have uploaded the enrollmemt form, still I am not getting any link for Writing a proposal11:45
priyanka_Is there something I am missing?11:45
priyanka_Please help11:46
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rusnicpriyanka_: once you have submitted the enrollment form go to your home (http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/homepage/google/gsoc2014)11:47
tpb<http://ln-s.net/:pm9> (at www.google-melange.com)11:47
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rusnicpriyanka_: i hope you find the "submit proposal" button11:48
priyanka_yes, i got. Thanks rusnic11:53
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d4rkr4iHello there. Cross question from #gsoc - public name can be chosen anything at melange, right?13:50
d4rkr4iIt shouldn't necessarily be the real-name?13:50
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vikramanhi, what would be the propoer way to include a code snippet with formatting in my proposal?13:59
vikramanthe melange editor is removing all my style tags13:59
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d4rkr4ivikraman: probably gist it and give link?14:00
vikramanwhat i'm doing now is link a pdf version of the entire proposal14:01
vikramani was hoping there was a better way =)14:01
vikramanall I need is code{white-space: pre;}14:02
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d4rkr4iI initially made my proposal public. Can't I make it private now? I guess the option was there till last year17:20
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raveeshthe page for submit proposal isnt opening17:26
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madrazrraveesh: what do you see instead?17:27
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raveeshnothing17:33
raveeshrefreshed many a times17:33
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raveeshno table visible17:33
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raveeshgood to go now :)17:44
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* jasvir : 1 hour to go :)18:04
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mrfrozonehi18:10
mrfrozoneI apply for the SoC 1418:10
mrfrozoneand I cannot find the link to upload my enrollment form18:11
mrfrozonecan anyone help me out?18:11
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jasvirmrfrozone: It's on home page. After logging in, you can see that link if you have a profile.18:13
mrfrozoneyep I should18:13
mrfrozonehowever18:13
mrfrozoneI did not..18:13
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madrazrmrfrozone: you registered as a mentor?18:18
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madrazrmrfrozone1: ^18:20
madrazryou registered as a mentor?18:20
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liangenthello, I can't log in to google-melange.com18:34
liangentthe server says http 414 The requested URL /... is too large to process. for https://www.google-melange.com/_ah/conflogin?state=... in a login step18:35
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Shreedhar_How do I know that my proposal was submitted successfully on melange for GSOC 14...?19:21
Shreedhar_I cant c it on my dashboard...19:21
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Shreedhar_When i had hit the submit button data was saved successfully...!19:22
Shreedhar_But on the dashboard if I click on the project name I m not able to click it n nothing appears...19:22
Shreedhar_Can any1 help...?19:23
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Shreedhar_How do I know that my proposal was submitted successfully on melange for GSOC 14...?19:31
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Guest94623Shreedhar_: login, and check from your account19:34
tariq786how to submit on melange! i could not figure that out19:35
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madrazrShreedhar_: it should be there on your dashboard if you have submitted it19:36
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madrazrShreedhar_: let's take this on PM?19:36
madrazrShreedhar_: ping me on PM?19:36
tariq786madrazr19:37
tariq786can you help me with my question19:37
madrazrliangent: did you figure out loggin in?19:37
madrazrtariq786: sure, how can I help you?19:37
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tariq786i could not figure out how to submit. I submitted my proposal where enrollment form should be submitted. I want to resolve this19:37
Shreedhar_@madrazr ...wats PM...?19:38
tariq786@madrazr, i could not figure out how to submit. I submitted my proposal where enrollment form should be submitted. I want to resolve this19:38
tariq786PM is personal messsage19:38
Shreedhar_wher do I msg u...?19:38
Shreedhar_madrazr...?19:38
tariq786type19:38
formosa_haredear melange, i got a strange message when i submitting my proposals...19:38
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VarunAgwformosa_hare, You can't submit proposal now19:39
VarunAgwtime is over19:39
tariq786@VarunAgw19:39
tariq786can you answer my question19:39
tariq786 i could not figure out how to submit. I submitted my proposal where enrollment form should be submitted. I want to resolve this19:39
shikherShreedhar_: PM -> private message19:40
VarunAgwtariq786, Have you submitted it already?19:40
formosa_hareThx, VA. I was before the deadline, about 1 hour ago.. should I contact the mentor org to see any possible fixup?19:40
tariq786yes19:40
Shreedhar_yaa I get it... but wher do i mai....?19:40
Shreedhar_mail*19:40
tariq786i already submitted by the deadline19:40
madrazrjasvir: Oh sure19:40
madrazrjasvir: we got a total of 119 proposals!19:41
tariq786@VarunAgW. i already submitted by the deadline19:41
tariq786@VarunAgW.  Can i do something about it?19:41
VarunAgwtariq786, then what's the problem?19:41
tariq786@VarunAgw,I submitted where enrollment form should be submitted as i could not figure out how to use melange?19:42
madrazrtariq786: this is something that you need to talk to carols first, if that is even possible19:42
carolswhat are we talking about?19:42
tariq786madrazr, she directed me to you19:42
VarunAgwtariq786, I don't think it is possible to correct it now19:42
madrazrcarols: tariq786 says"madrazr, i could not figure out how to submit. I submitted my proposal where enrollment form should be submitted. I want to resolve this"19:42
madrazrtariq786: ah Ok19:42
madrazralright then19:42
madrazrtariq786: if that is the case, I will fix that for you19:43
carolsare you asking for a deadline extension19:43
madrazrcarols: no no19:43
tariq786no19:43
Shreedhar_How do I know that my proposal was submitted successfully on melange for GSOC 14...?19:43
carolsokay, then what's the question for me?19:43
Shreedhar_please help on this madrazr...19:43
tariq786just put my proposal where it should be19:43
jasvirmadrazr: WOW. It's really a good number :)19:43
tariq786@madrazr, what information do you need from me to get this resolved19:44
madrazrcarols: tariq786 has submitted the proposal where he should have submitted the enrollment form. I wanted him to talk to you first19:44
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madrazrcarols: I was not sure if that should be fixed at all19:44
Shreedhar_@madrazr I do not see it on my dashboard.. I had submitted an hour before the deadline...!19:44
madrazrcarols: but seems like you already redirected him to me19:44
tariq786yes carol asked me to talk to you19:44
tariq786i can show you the log from #gsoc19:44
madrazrcarols: so you seemed to have answered my question already. So nothing for now19:44
Shreedhar_ @madrazr I do not see it on my dashboard.. I had submitted an hour before the deadline...!19:45
tariq786@madrazr, what information do you need from me to get this resolved19:45
madrazrformosa_hare: how can we help you?19:45
formosa_hare@madrazr, thank you. my question is similiar with Shreedhar_ 's19:46
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formosa_harei got a strange message when i submitting my proposals... "Page inactive..."19:47
tariq786@madrazr, what information do you need from me to get this resolved? Sorry for repeating it again and again19:47
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Shreedhar_@madrazr When I submitted...the page said data saved successfully... but the proposal dsnt appear on my dashboard...!19:48
madrazrformosa_hare: which meant you missed the deadline19:48
tariq786@madrazr, what information do you need from me to get this resolved? Sorry for repeating it again and again19:49
madrazrformosa_hare: submission form became  inactive exactly at 19:00:00 UTC19:49
madrazrtariq786: Shreedhar_: patience please!19:49
tariq786sure19:49
formosa_hare@madrazr, i see. too bad, i should be earlier to confirm the proposal saved :(19:49
madrazrpasting the question again and again is not going to help any of us19:49
Shreedhar_sure...19:49
tariq786sorry19:49
madrazrit just adds to the noise on this channel19:49
Shreedhar_sorry for that ...19:50
madrazrI am not ignoring any of youm I am just processing things one after the other19:50
madrazr*you19:50
tariq786got it19:50
madrazrtariq786: I will need your username on Melange, but we will take this on PM19:50
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madrazrShreedhar_: PM too19:51
Shreedhar_how do I come on PM... on the right therez a box right.. do I click on yout name...?19:52
Shreedhar_your*19:52
formosa_hareShreedhar_ : i just tried.   /msg USER_NAME text_here seems working19:54
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madrazrjust for the record, all good with Shreedhar_'s PM. I have pinged him19:56
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ramsub07I want to make my proposal visible to public, is there anyway to do ?20:45
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tootisHi all, I need help here, I have a problem with my proposal in the melange, I was editing the format of some sentences, and after submitting the changes I found out that the lower part of the proposal turned bold, I tried a lot to edit it but no use until the editing is closed.  After the editing is closed I inspected the elements with the browser and I found a leading <strong> tag.  please could you open the editing section for 5 min21:15
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diadaratootis: I think the mentors can alow you to edit if they want, formatting doesn't matter much though,anyway talk to them21:22
tootisOK, I will leave a comment21:23
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