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| ajs | Lennie, madrazr: are you guys mentors for melange? | 04:58 |
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| madrazr | ajs: potential yes | 04:58 |
| madrazr | *potentially | 04:58 |
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| ajs | madrazr: so ... do you only have the one officially recommended idea? | 04:59 |
| madrazr | ajs: yeah this time | 04:59 |
| ajs | how many students are you expecting to take on (just one?) | 05:00 |
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| ajs | madrazr: ^ | 05:02 |
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| madrazr | ajs: I don't know right now | 05:43 |
| madrazr | ajs: it really depends | 05:43 |
| madrazr | ajs: as many good applications as we get may be? | 05:44 |
| madrazr | really good! | 05:44 |
| ajs | madrazr: ok :D | 05:44 |
| ajs | madrazr: so one thing I heard from GCI mentors is that they would really like to see a students history when they go to approve a task. Granted, that's a bit small, but would you consider a task rather like that (only bigger)? | 05:45 |
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| madrazr | ajs1: while that is definitely a nice to have, that wouldn't make a GSoC project | 05:57 |
| madrazr | may be other things with that? | 05:57 |
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| ajs1 | madrazr: right - obviously | 06:01 |
| ajs1 | madrazr: just probing for ideas | 06:01 |
| madrazr | ajs1: sure | 06:05 |
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| ajs1 | madrazr: another thing I know mentors were frustrated by was a lack of queue on when students submitted stuff. Another (more full scale) idea had would be having real time updates coming out of melange for GCI with different options available such as an IRC bot which posts to a channel each time something happens for that org... or a Twitter feed... or a more generic RESTful API which pings remote URLs | 06:10 |
| ajs1 | that would save a ton of what I saw last year which was "mentornick1 mentornick2 mentornick3: claim [URL]" | 06:10 |
| ajs1 | or "nick1 nick2: pls review [URL]" | 06:11 |
| ajs1 | which generally contributed to mentors getting incredibly pissed | 06:11 |
| madrazr | ajs1: there are emails that are already doing it | 06:11 |
| ajs1 | yea... but email... isn't exactly a popular form of notification for that sort of thing | 06:12 |
| madrazr | ajs1: I would disagree | 06:12 |
| madrazr | ajs1: it is the most persistent form of notification | 06:13 |
| madrazr | no one can complain that they missed it (unless their spam marker is doing something crazy) | 06:13 |
| madrazr | ajs1: twitter, IRC bot messages and all other form of social/geek media postings are really really transient | 06:13 |
| ajs1 | madrazr: ok - then scratch that, but students get pissed if things aren't accepted in 5 minutes | 06:14 |
| madrazr | ajs1: that is a social problem | 06:14 |
| ajs1 | which is why they take to IRC to piss off the mentors | 06:14 |
| madrazr | ajs1: you can't expect mentors to be awake 24 hours all the 90 days the program runs | 06:14 |
| ajs1 | madrazr: nor do I | 06:14 |
| madrazr | ajs1: yes | 06:14 |
| ajs1 | (planning on mentoring for GCI next year) | 06:15 |
| madrazr | which is why whatever anyone does, mentors can't accept requests in 5 mins | 06:15 |
| madrazr | in an average case | 06:15 |
| madrazr | ajs1: cool! | 06:15 |
| ajs1 | I'm just repeating complaints that I heard from mentors | 06:15 |
| ajs1 | random note: madrazr are you a Googler? | 06:16 |
| madrazr | ajs1: sure, the solution you suggest is probably not a solution to that problem | 06:16 |
| madrazr | may be if you have a better solution | 06:16 |
| madrazr | ajs1: I am not | 06:17 |
| ajs1 | madrazr: hmm - I'll try to think of one; the thinking behind the IRC bot was that students wouldn't ping mentors if there was already a message in IRC, but perhaps I underestimate how obnoxious students are :D | 06:18 |
| madrazr | ajs1: no matter what you do, desperate people are desperate and I am not telling that is wrong | 06:20 |
| madrazr | ajs1: if you post a message to #python | 06:20 |
| madrazr | or say #rubyonrails | 06:20 |
| madrazr | do you think the student who wants to nag mentors, notice that message? | 06:21 |
| madrazr | ajs1: probably not | 06:21 |
| ajs1 | madrazr: ok - thx... I'll think about that. gn | 06:22 |
| madrazr | ajs1: gn | 06:22 |
| madrazr | ajs1: NP | 06:22 |
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| mxprm | Hola | 07:39 |
| mxprm | hi? | 07:41 |
| mxprm | alguien me puede explicar como se aporta al Melange para GSoC | 07:42 |
| mxprm | can somebody explain how is contributed to Melange for GSoC | 07:42 |
| mxprm | ? | 07:42 |
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| aditi | @Lennie hi | 12:29 |
| aditi | @Lennie: hi | 12:30 |
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