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| ptressel | One of our mentors noticed an Odd Thing -- this task says difficulty "unknown": http://www.google-melange.com/gci/task/view/google/gci2011/7123367 | 03:12 |
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| tpb | Title: Test Developers Installation Documentation for Windows - Sahana Software Foundation (at www.google-melange.com) | 03:12 |
| ptressel | I don't see the spreadsheet that was used to upload the task so I don't know if that field was left empty -- will have to wait for the other org admin to come online. | 03:15 |
| madrazr | ptressel: are you the mentor for that organization? | 03:41 |
| ptressel | madrazr: One of them. But unfortunately, I didn't upload that task... | 03:42 |
| madrazr | ptressel: it doesn't matter | 03:42 |
| madrazr | you can still edit the task until Monday | 03:43 |
| ptressel | I mean, for telling if melange allowed uploading a task without a difficulty set. | 03:43 |
| madrazr | ptressel: past if past | 03:43 |
| madrazr | you just need to fix it for now :) | 03:43 |
| madrazr | ptressel: so edit it :) | 03:43 |
| madrazr | ptressel: set the difficulty right :P | 03:43 |
| ptressel | Ok, let me be more direct: I'm "reporting a possible bug in melange". | 03:44 |
| ptressel | ;) | 03:44 |
| madrazr | ptressel: heh, it is not a bug yet, it may be quite possible that the CSV data had a problem | 03:44 |
| madrazr | :) | 03:44 |
| ptressel | Er...that why I said "I don't see the spreadsheet that was used to upload the task so I don't know if that field was left empty" | 03:45 |
| madrazr | ptressel: which is why it is not proved to be a bug yet | 03:45 |
| madrazr | :) | 03:45 |
| ptressel | If it were me, I wouldn't want to allow a task to be to be uploaded w/o a difficulty. | 03:45 |
| ptressel | Er | 03:46 |
| ptressel | That could be tested. | 03:46 |
| ptressel | It's clearly not correct to have a task w/o a difficulty. | 03:46 |
| madrazr | ptressel: but we have seen this happening before, which is why we introduced this Intermediate state | 03:46 |
| ptressel | So a task w/o a difficulty indicates that melange allowed such a task to be created. | 03:46 |
| madrazr | ptressel: yes | 03:47 |
| madrazr | ptressel: it was by request | 03:47 |
| madrazr | ptressel: mentors did not want their bulk uploads failing because of that problem | 03:47 |
| madrazr | ptressel: they could edit it after upload | 03:47 |
| madrazr | ptressel: Note: Previously we did not allow this to happen | 03:47 |
| madrazr | ptressel: uploads used to fail on those tasks | 03:47 |
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| ptressel | Hmm, maybe it would be appropriate to "hold" the incomplete tasks? | 03:48 |
| madrazr | ptressel: ? | 03:48 |
| ptressel | A student claimed and worked on our task without knowing what points they'd get. | 03:49 |
| ptressel | Last year, melange could have tasks in a state where they were uploaded but not released. | 03:49 |
| ptressel | That's what I mean by "hold". | 03:49 |
| madrazr | ptressel: this year the rules of the contest has changed | 03:49 |
| madrazr | many organizations want all their tasks to be published during the publish date | 03:50 |
| madrazr | which is only twice during the entire program | 03:50 |
| ptressel | Is there an error message for bad tasks, then? | 03:50 |
| madrazr | what do you mean? | 03:50 |
| ptressel | Or some way for the org to find out which need to be fixed? | 03:50 |
| ptressel | Say we upload 100 tasks... | 03:50 |
| ptressel | And 4 of them are defective... | 03:50 |
| ptressel | How do we know there were defective tasks, and then find them to fix them? | 03:51 |
| madrazr | ptressel: you will get an email for the tasks that failed to upload. However I am not sure if the mail talks about the tasks that got a wrong difficulty level | 03:51 |
| madrazr | ptressel: I think your dashboard shows this? | 03:51 |
| ptressel | Don't know but will look. | 03:52 |
| madrazr | ptressel: if you think you are missing a feature, please file an issue at http://tinyurl.com/new-issue | 03:52 |
| tpb | Title: Google Project Hosting (at tinyurl.com) | 03:52 |
| ptressel | Nope, I don't see anything. But I didn't upload the tasks. | 03:54 |
| madrazr | ptressel: Ok | 03:55 |
| ptressel | Not sure where you mean it might end up in the dashboard. The only place for messages that I see is "incoming requests". | 03:55 |
| ptressel | I'll hassle the person who uploaded the tasks -- if they ignored email with error messages, then this is their problem. | 03:57 |
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| c_schmitz_ | SRabbelier: when downloading files from melange it is very very slow currently | 09:40 |
| SRabbelier | c_schmitz_: what kind of files? | 09:47 |
| c_schmitz_ | the students works, any file type | 09:48 |
| c_schmitz_ | example: http://www.google-melange.com/gci/task/view/google/gci2011/7190217 | 09:49 |
| tpb | Title: (Hindi ) Web application translation: Translate 300 strings from English to Hindi - LimeSurvey (at www.google-melange.com) | 09:49 |
| c_schmitz_ | can you see the same, SRabbelier ? | 09:50 |
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| SRabbelier | c_schmitz_: the download starts instantly for me and is done in under a second | 09:59 |
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| c_schmitz | SRabbelier, weird, takes quite some time for me - I have checked download on other platforms and they seem to be okay | 10:37 |
| c_schmitz | must be the internet pipez getting pumped ;) | 10:38 |
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| annma | hi, how do I fail a student? | 11:10 |
| annma | I see "Mark as closed" which is nto the good option, "Needs more work" as the deadline is not passed (but the student is not going to do this task in a satisfying way) | 11:11 |
| annma | "Unassign task" | 11:12 |
| annma | I don't see what this is for | 11:12 |
| c_schmitz | annma: you will have to give him the chance to do it in the allocated timeframe | 11:13 |
| c_schmitz | demand more work, if he is not able to do within the timefram you can still fail=unassign him | 11:13 |
| annma | it's a French translation and he is not French obviously | 11:14 |
| annma | so I'd prefer failing him right now and reopen the task for someone else | 11:14 |
| annma | if I unassign, will it reopen the task for someone else? | 11:14 |
| c_schmitz | yes | 11:15 |
| annma | thansk a lot c_schmitz :) | 11:15 |
| c_schmitz | np | 11:15 |
| annma | I'll make it cleared in the task description that the student needs to speak real French | 11:16 |
| annma | ;) | 11:16 |
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| annma | can 2 mentors be subscribed to the task? | 11:46 |
| annma | I subscribed to a task then I changed the mentor and the new mentor can't be subscribed | 11:52 |
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| Arc | tasks dont leave "ActionNeeded" state do they? | 14:11 |
| Arc | http://www.google-melange.com/gci/task/view/google/gci2011/7121333 | 14:11 |
| tpb | Title: French Website - PySoy Cloud Game Engine (at www.google-melange.com) | 14:11 |
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| vperic | Any Melange devs around, I have a feature request: would it be possible to get all mails related to a given task as a single "conversation" in Gmail? The reason is that I'm subscribed to tons of issues and I'm never sure if someone acted on one until I actually open the link and see. (eg. someone requested to claim the task, but was already granted it by another mentor, I just didn't notice because it wasn't in the same conversation). | 17:14 |
| vperic | I hope that makes sense. (wow, that was long) | 17:14 |
| vperic | I guess right now they are divided by the sender, and that's really annoying. :) | 17:18 |
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| annma | can several mentors subscribe to a same task? | 21:10 |
| pjcj | yes | 21:10 |
| annma | I I get lots of emails for tasks I did not subscribe to | 21:11 |
| annma | pjcj: how? | 21:11 |
| pjcj | click on edit, then look on the bottom right corner | 21:11 |
| pjcj | "add a mentor" or something similar | 21:11 |
| annma | the task is taken and cannot be edited | 21:11 |
| pjcj | ah no, you can only edit open tasks | 21:12 |
| pjcj | but any mentor can subscribe to updates and comment on the task | 21:12 |
| annma | what happens is that I was the mentor and I subscribed to the task then I changed the mentor to be someone else | 21:12 |
| annma | pjcj: teh current mentor cannot | 21:12 |
| pjcj | cannot subscribe or cannot reply? | 21:13 |
| annma | cannot subscribe | 21:13 |
| pjcj | oh, strange | 21:13 |
| pjcj | that's one for the melange folk then | 21:13 |
| annma | he can replay but not subscribe and not amend the task state | 21:13 |
| annma | yes | 21:13 |
| annma | I am in the melange channel, right? | 21:13 |
| pjcj | right | 21:13 |
| annma | also I get lots of emails for tasks I did not subscribed to | 21:13 |
| pjcj | yes, the whole notifications thing isn't really working out too well | 21:15 |
| annma | damn | 21:16 |
| annma | this is so much work | 21:16 |
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| Nightrose | SRabbelier: hey :) you said you will approve tasks today - did you already do that? | 21:44 |
| SRabbelier | Nightrose: I can do it now if you like :) | 21:44 |
| SRabbelier | Nightrose: last time tomorrow! | 21:45 |
| Nightrose | SRabbelier: do when you want - just wanted to make sure my tasks are still in :P | 21:45 |
| SRabbelier | (should be done in a minute) | 21:45 |
| pjcj | when is the deadline? 0800 GMT? | 21:45 |
| Nightrose | SRabbelier: btw - you're a hero for being around even in thesis time... - thanks! | 21:48 |
| SRabbelier | Nightrose: you're welcome, and thank you :) | 21:48 |
| SRabbelier | pjcj: eh, not quite sure what Carol said | 21:48 |
| SRabbelier | pjcj: assume the deadline is in the next few hours | 21:49 |
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| pjcj | SRabbelier: OK | 21:51 |
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