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| SRabbelier | jbailey: why hello there? | 11:04 |
| jbailey | SRabbelier, Hullo. =) | 11:04 |
| SRabbelier | jbailey: you're a new face on #melange methinks? | 11:05 |
| SRabbelier | jbailey: or at least, don't remember seeing @jbaily a lot before | 11:05 |
| durin42 | Pawel gets massive points for the Gadget reference. | 11:10 |
| durin42 | So does Lennard. | 11:10 |
| SRabbelier | durin42: agreed | 11:11 |
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| jbailey | SRabbelier, Sort of. Todd, Leslie and I drew the concept for Melange on my whiteboard in.. December 07? January 08? | 11:11 |
| SRabbelier | jbailey: ah, I see :) | 11:11 |
| jbailey | SRabbelier, But I wound up not being involved with it for various reasons. | 11:12 |
| SRabbelier | jbailey: are you following the development? | 11:12 |
| * SRabbelier nods | 11:12 | |
| durin42 | jbailey: I remember designing a bigtable schema for the previous conceptual replacement for the webapp in August of 07 | 11:12 |
| durin42 | (as an intern) | 11:12 |
| jbailey | durin42, Sure. I more mean the appengine-based implementation, incorporating GHOP. | 11:13 |
| SRabbelier | jbailey: hehe, quite a bit changed since that design :D | 11:13 |
| durin42 | Right, AppEngine was still young in the summer. | 11:13 |
| jbailey | Adding ghop to the gsoc webapp made it pretty clear how much the old BT design wasn't going to handle it well. =) | 11:13 |
| jbailey | durin42, Are you my fine German friend? | 11:13 |
| durin42 | Well, the old BT design handled nothing else. | 11:13 |
| jbailey | durin42, You don't have your real name set. =) | 11:13 |
| durin42 | jbailey: no, I'm the intern before him. | 11:14 |
| durin42 | I'm Augie Fackler, the Chicago intern. | 11:14 |
| * SRabbelier chuckles | 11:14 | |
| SRabbelier | anyway, I'm off to home, bbs :) | 11:14 |
| jbailey | Ah. We met at the mentors summit last year. | 11:14 |
| durin42 | Indeed. | 11:14 |
| jbailey | Was that August 07? | 11:14 |
| jbailey | Or 06? | 11:14 |
| durin42 | 07 | 11:14 |
| jbailey | SRabbelier, Safe travels. =) | 11:14 |
| durin42 | When did you join OSPO? | 11:15 |
| jbailey | September 07 | 11:17 |
| durin42 | Ah, so I just missed meeting you then. | 11:17 |
| jbailey | Left ospo in Jan 09 | 11:17 |
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| lh | SRabbelier: ping. i has been booted from #melangedev again, same problem as before | 11:28 |
| * danderson tries to remember if he was at ospo in 06 or 07 | 11:30 | |
| lh | danderson: it was 06 | 11:31 |
| danderson | yeah | 11:31 |
| danderson | jeez, I'm old :( | 11:31 |
| danderson | feels like yesterday | 11:31 |
| lh | danderson: for me too | 11:31 |
| jbailey | lh, g'm | 11:34 |
| lh | jbailey: good morning! what brings you to these parts? | 11:35 |
| jbailey | lh, The amusing part is that I don't remember. | 11:35 |
| lh | jbailey: awesome. :) | 11:35 |
| jbailey | I joined the channel last night for some reason. | 11:35 |
| lh | jbailey: your LI is in my queue of to dos, I havent forgotten | 11:35 |
| jbailey | Someone at 11amish this morning asked if I was new to melange and interested in contributing. =) | 11:35 |
| jbailey | Reasonable question, really. | 11:35 |
| jbailey | lh, Awesome, thanks. Just making sure it hadn't dropped off the end of email bankruptcy. =) | 11:36 |
| lh | jbailey: not at all, it's on the list of things that have to get done that are important so need to be done well, give self mental space before doing | 11:36 |
| lh | jbailey: no conference or work stuff this weekend, so on the docket for then | 11:36 |
| jbailey | lh, At the risk of delaying it further, have you concerned a weekend of crazy dancing, tree hugging, or generally taking axes to computers rather than powering them on? | 11:37 |
| lh | jbailey: had some crazy dancing past weekend. have definitely hugged some trees. | 11:38 |
| lh | jbailey: and going to AMS for 10 May thru 20 May | 11:38 |
| lh | :) | 11:38 |
| jbailey | AMS | 11:38 |
| jbailey | Wait. 10-20? | 11:38 |
| * jbailey looks at his calendar. | 11:38 | |
| lh | jbailey: you going to be there? :) | 11:39 |
| jbailey | I don't know what AMS is. | 11:39 |
| jbailey | But I have EDGE from the 19th to the 22nd. | 11:39 |
| jbailey | in MTV | 11:39 |
| lh | jbailey: AMS = amsterdam | 11:39 |
| jbailey | Ah, heading in the other direction. | 11:39 |
| lh | jbailey: i will be in town the evening of 20th then take off for reunion | 11:39 |
| jbailey | I was considering trying hard for Zurich for EDGE, but this one opened up. | 11:40 |
| lh | dinner with a jetlagged me on the 20th sound fun? *very* jetlagged. | 11:40 |
| jbailey | Sounds awesome. | 11:40 |
| jbailey | I'll drive. =) | 11:40 |
| lh | Zurich for EDGE sounds more fun. | 11:40 |
| * lh makes note: dinner with jeff on the 20th | 11:40 | |
| lh | will confirm with the emails | 11:40 |
| jbailey | Awesome, thanks. | 11:40 |
| jbailey | I should book those tickets soon. | 11:40 |
| jbailey | I should do my expenses from the last trip soon. | 11:40 |
| lh | yes, yes you should. on both! | 11:41 |
| jbailey | First task today when I stop looking at JavaScript is to buy a mother's day present for Angie. | 11:41 |
| jbailey | *must* *not* *forget* | 11:41 |
| jbailey | veganstore.com takes forever to deliver to Canada. | 11:41 |
| lh | :) | 11:42 |
| jbailey | http://www.veganstore.com/the-chocoholic-basket/Page_1/177.html | 11:42 |
| tpb | <http://ln-s.net/3+zC> (at www.veganstore.com) | 11:42 |
| lh | jbailey: whoa. | 11:42 |
| * lh drolls | 11:42 | |
| jbailey | lh, There are some things that it's terribly sad to have to pay international shipping on. | 11:43 |
| jbailey | It's cheaper to get it shipped to California than it is to Montréal from DC. Insane. | 11:43 |
| lh | jbailey: ship here pick up here? | 11:44 |
| lh | but wont help for mum's day | 11:44 |
| jbailey | That's the problem. | 11:44 |
| * lh wanders off in search of coffee | 11:44 | |
| jbailey | Otherwise I would. I seem to be travelling down enough lately. | 11:44 |
| jbailey | Happy caffination! | 11:44 |
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| lh | it is good! | 11:48 |
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| lh | danderson: i never thanked you enough for the torchwood. though i have now memorized every episode | 11:49 |
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| lh | solydzajs: mind if i put today's meeting agenda on the wiki? | 11:56 |
| solydzajs | lh: not at all | 11:56 |
| lh | solydzajs: cool will do | 11:57 |
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| lh | solydzajs: i know you have already thought of this, but can we just link the logs of today's meeting to the agenda so no one needs to take notes? | 12:45 |
| * lh wonders if it is worth asking for a volunteer to run logs through cleaning tool like irc2text | 12:46 | |
| lh | er, maybe it is irc2html | 12:50 |
| solydzajs | lh: I'm back | 12:51 |
| solydzajs | lh: ok I will do it | 12:51 |
| solydzajs | lh: our IRC logs on Tim's server are already in HTML format | 12:52 |
| lh | solydzajs: hotness, thanks! | 12:52 |
| danderson | lh: oh, so you did get it all | 13:14 |
| danderson | I never remembered | 13:14 |
| lh | danderson: i did. omg. so happy. | 13:14 |
| lh | :) | 13:14 |
| lh | danderson, solydzajs: i hate to be a pita, but can you remove the ban from chansev for #melangedev for me please? | 13:14 |
| * lh makes note to talk to SRabbelier about better setting up channel so as not to leave her in this situation frequently | 13:15 | |
| solydzajs | done | 13:15 |
| * SRabbelier is back | 13:16 | |
| SRabbelier | lh: that's why I told you how to do it | 13:17 |
| lh | SRabbelier: and i forgot. | 13:17 |
| lh | it happens. | 13:17 |
| lh | fixed now. :) | 13:17 |
| SRabbelier | lh: it's on your mailbox | 13:17 |
| lh | SRabbelier: really? | 13:17 |
| * lh looks | 13:17 | |
| SRabbelier | lh: Notes from Roadmap Meeting <--- that one | 13:18 |
| lh | SRabbelier: looking | 13:19 |
| lh | SRabbelier: and there it is. thank you for the reminder. | 13:20 |
| SRabbelier | lh: np :) | 13:20 |
| * SRabbelier mutters something about fishing again | 13:20 | |
| SRabbelier | madrazr: good to see you're getting involved in the GHOP document! :) | 13:22 |
| madrazr | SRabbelier: thanks! | 13:22 |
| madrazr | I want to be active in that discussion, any time it happens, since I am directly concerned with it! I am even following #melangedev logs :D | 13:22 |
| madrazr | SRabbelier: anyways I generally want to be active in the entire process of Melange development :P | 13:23 |
| SRabbelier | madrazr: :D:D | 13:23 |
| SRabbelier | madrazr: I hope this GSoC will bring us a whole bunch of new committers ;) | 13:24 |
| lh | SRabbelier: you would get further with your metaphor if i ate fish :p | 13:24 |
| SRabbelier | lh: point, how about shoarma? | 13:24 |
| lh | SRabbelier: yep, now i will never forget it. | 13:25 |
| * lh makes note - unbanning is inbox like shoarma is forever in my heart | 13:25 | |
| * SRabbelier grins | 13:25 | |
| SRabbelier | lh: yay! | 13:25 |
| madrazr | SRabbelier: yup, I want the commit access, and yes TBH I am desperate about it ;-) | 13:25 |
| SRabbelier | madrazr: if only Lennie were here to scare you with "maybe" :P | 13:26 |
| madrazr | SRabbelier: heh, I am looking for a horror movie production company ;-) | 13:26 |
| SRabbelier | madrazr: :D | 13:28 |
| madrazr | Oh just 30 mins for the meeting, will finish off the dinner and come back | 13:29 |
| madrazr | brb | 13:29 |
| SRabbelier | madrazr: yup! see you soon | 13:29 |
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| Lennie | Merio! | 13:57 |
| Lennie | How's Ireland? | 13:57 |
| Merio | Hi Lennie! | 13:57 |
| Merio | Fantastic :) | 13:57 |
| Merio | We're going around Dublin looking for studios, feet on fire ^__^ | 13:58 |
| Lennie | cool | 13:58 |
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| lh | solydzajs: i am grabbing a coffee but will be back in a minute | 13:59 |
| Merio | Last visited studio one hour and a half ago... about 15 minutes bus from hostel... but no bus came in a hour... I feared not to be on time :) | 13:59 |
| solydzajs | lh: ok | 13:59 |
| SRabbelier | Merio: did you talk with James--Crook yet? :D | 14:00 |
| * madrazr is back! | 14:00 | |
| madrazr | ah coolness, perfect time :P | 14:01 |
| Merio | SRabbelier: no... about what? :) | 14:01 |
| SRabbelier | Merio: he is in Dublin 4 :) | 14:01 |
| Merio | SRabbelier: wow, I didn't know that! | 14:02 |
| Lennie | James will mail Merio soon | 14:02 |
| SRabbelier | Lennie: I know, he told me ;) | 14:02 |
| solydzajs | ok we will wait few more minutes | 14:02 |
| solydzajs | and will start soon | 14:02 |
| solydzajs | checklist | 14:02 |
| solydzajs | SRabbelier: I know you are here :-) hehe | 14:02 |
| solydzajs | Lennie: you too ;-) ok :-) | 14:02 |
| Lennie | is Levy here? | 14:02 |
| solydzajs | Merio: too ;-) good | 14:03 |
| * lh returns | 14:03 | |
| solydzajs | dhans: ping | 14:03 |
| SRabbelier | we has a lh then too | 14:03 |
| solydzajs | madrazr: ping | 14:03 |
| dhans | pong | 14:03 |
| madrazr | solydzajs: pong | 14:03 |
| solydzajs | oh great | 14:03 |
| madrazr | solydzajs: Hi, btw ;-) | 14:03 |
| solydzajs | ok I'm looking for James Levy | 14:03 |
| SRabbelier | lh: did James tell you his irc nick? | 14:03 |
| lh | SRabbelier: nope. | 14:05 |
| * lh suspects that james thinks he needs to be here at 8 PM pacific too. | 14:05 | |
| solydzajs | he is not on #melange channel | 14:05 |
| lh | his email said see you at 8 pm | 14:05 |
| lh | should i have followed up to correct him? | 14:05 |
| solydzajs | yes please | 14:05 |
| lh | i guess i can call him | 14:06 |
| lh | hang on | 14:06 |
| solydzajs | ok | 14:06 |
| Lennie | so | 14:06 |
| SRabbelier | lh: 8pm is correct iff he's taling about 8pm UTC+2 | 14:06 |
| lh | SRabbelier: yes but he is american and he just said 8 pm. i know what i would have meant if i sent that message. :) | 14:07 |
| Lennie | Merio, what are you going to do in Dublin next months :D? | 14:07 |
| lh | this is why i always use those time and date links. otherwise i have no idea when anything really happens. | 14:07 |
| SRabbelier | lh: +1 on that | 14:08 |
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| lh | ok qq before we get started | 14:08 |
| lh | i want to add all new posts to the MLs to be held for moderation if they are from new users, is everyone ok with that/ | 14:08 |
| * lh is sick of deleting spam posts | 14:08 | |
| Merio | Lennie: working on GSoC and learn spoken English better, without too much "what?, can you repeat?, sorry?" :PpP | 14:08 |
| Lennie | hehe | 14:09 |
| SRabbelier | lh: yes, +1 | 14:09 |
| lh | done | 14:09 |
| SRabbelier | Merio: sounds like a good idea ;) | 14:09 |
| lh | anyone objects speak now because i am doing this now | 14:09 |
| Merio | SRabbelier: very good indeed ;) | 14:09 |
| Lennie | ripetere per favore? | 14:09 |
| Lennie | or something like that :P | 14:09 |
| Lennie | lh, go ahead | 14:10 |
| harlan | goferit lh | 14:10 |
| Merio | Lennie: Google translate ftw? :P | 14:10 |
| Lennie | wont slow the list down too much | 14:10 |
| Lennie | Merio, I know a few words Italian :P | 14:10 |
| SRabbelier | harlan: who are you? xD | 14:10 |
| Lennie | Merio, wont get me far though | 14:10 |
| madrazr | Lennie: then I will teach you one more language :D | 14:10 |
| harlan | If you have to ask SRabbelier ... | 14:10 |
| lh | james is on his way | 14:10 |
| madrazr | Indic this time ;-) | 14:10 |
| SRabbelier | harlan: just teasing ;) | 14:10 |
| Lennie | Harlan Stenn :P | 14:10 |
| harlan | :) | 14:10 |
| solydzajs | ok lets wait for James then | 14:10 |
| solydzajs | and start soon | 14:10 |
| * lh humbly suggests all future meetings be scheduled with included timeanddate.com link please | 14:10 | |
| SRabbelier | lh: good idea | 14:11 |
| Lennie | we'll try :P\ | 14:11 |
| Lennie | the meeting schelduler only allows 4 timezones | 14:11 |
| Lennie | atleast it looked like it :D | 14:11 |
| solydzajs | lh: that's also why I asked about those timezones | 14:11 |
| lh | Lennie: it does only allow 4. 4 is good enough. | 14:11 |
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| Merio | Lennie: Bad words mainly? ;) | 14:11 |
| jamtoday | Hey this is James A. Levy | 14:11 |
| lh | solydzajs: no totally, but that doesn't work for me - i need to see UTC and my time zone (or one in USA so I can convert easily) | 14:11 |
| Lennie | Merio, maybe | 14:11 |
| lh | jamtoday: welcome james | 14:11 |
| lh | solydzajs: your meeting | 14:12 |
| lh | let's go! :) | 14:12 |
| Merio | jamtoday: hi ^_^ | 14:12 |
| solydzajs | lh: yes but now that I now all the timezones I can include all of them in the timeanddate link :-) | 14:12 |
| SRabbelier | jamtoday: heya! | 14:12 |
| lh | solydzajs: ah. cool. | 14:12 |
| * lh knew most of them already, except that merio was in .ie | 14:12 | |
| solydzajs | ok Welcome Google Summer of Code Students to our first Melange GSoC meeting :-) | 14:12 |
| madrazr | solydzajs: Thank You! | 14:13 |
| Merio | lh: just from yesterday morning :) | 14:13 |
| *** solydzajs sets mode: +m | 14:13 | |
| lh | Merio: great. we can talk about dublin later. :) | 14:13 |
| solydzajs | Ok so here is how we will proceed with the meeting | 14:13 |
| *** lh changes topic to "Melange GSoC Student Mtg. In Progress, Agenda at http://code.google.com/p/soc/wiki/MeetingAgendasNotes - Melange powers the Google Summer of Code 2009 site - Want to contribute? Start here: http://code.google.com/p/soc/wiki/GettingStarted - Be a Hero and Fix Some Melange Bugs: Easy Bugs: http://tinyurl.com/dax2j9 & Minimal Effort Bugs: http://tinyurl.com/d97z24 - Demo is running at http://melange-demo.appspot.com - Logs at http://ibot.rikers.or" | 14:14 | |
| solydzajs | 1. Students will be asked to introduce themselves to the community and provide a brief overview of their projects. We will start with Madhudusan then Merio, Daniel and James | 14:14 |
| solydzajs | so lets start with this point now and we will move to next one when we are done :-) | 14:16 |
| *** solydzajs sets mode: -m | 14:16 | |
| madrazr | solydzajs: should I start now? | 14:16 |
| solydzajs | yes | 14:16 |
| solydzajs | go ahead | 14:16 |
| madrazr | solydzajs: Ok | 14:17 |
| madrazr | Hello everyone, I am Madhusudan.C.S, from Bangalore, India. I am doing my final year of Bachelor degree in Information Science and Engineering | 14:17 |
| madrazr | I will be working on GHOP related features during this summer! | 14:17 |
| madrazr | I am done! | 14:18 |
| madrazr | :) | 14:18 |
| solydzajs | awesome, great to have you with us madrazr :-) | 14:18 |
| madrazr | solydzajs: thank you! | 14:18 |
| solydzajs | Merio: :-) | 14:18 |
| jamtoday | madrazr: GHOP FTW! | 14:18 |
| Merio | Ok, hello :) I am Mario Ferraro from Rome, Italy (now in Dublin, Ireland for the next months ;)) 3 exams left for Bachelor degree in Computer Engineering | 14:18 |
| madrazr | jamtoday: :) I am all excited about it :P | 14:19 |
| Merio | I'll work on the stats module for Melange ... in some way together with Daniel :) | 14:19 |
| Merio | hmm done? :) | 14:20 |
| solydzajs | thanks Merio :-) | 14:20 |
| solydzajs | dhans: :-) | 14:20 |
| dhans | OK, so hi guys :) My name is Daniel Hans and I come from Poland (like solydzajs:). Currently I am studying 4th year of informatics at University of Warsaw. In one year I am going to receive my Master degree:) | 14:21 |
| dhans | Like Merio, I am going to work on statistic module and I home we will cooperate with each other very well:) | 14:22 |
| solydzajs | great :-) thanks dhans :-) | 14:22 |
| solydzajs | and jamtoday please :-) | 14:22 |
| jamtoday | I'm James A. Levy from the United States. I'm finishing journalism and CS BA at Northwestern University. | 14:23 |
| jamtoday | I will be working on a news feed framework that will be used to stream updates in several different useful contexts | 14:23 |
| lh | jamtoday: i wantz identi.ca feeds. :) | 14:23 |
| solydzajs | jamtoday: thanks, great to have you here | 14:24 |
| solydzajs | ok thanks to all our GSoCers for quick introduction now we will proceed with quick introduction of Melange Team | 14:24 |
| jamtoday | lh: There will certainly be a way to export to identi.ca, twitter, gReader, etc. | 14:24 |
| solydzajs | each team member will introduce himself/herself and will say which project is mentoring/co-mentoring | 14:25 |
| Lennie | ha | 14:25 |
| Lennie | I go first! | 14:25 |
| solydzajs | we will start with lh then SRabbelier , Lennie , solydzajs | 14:25 |
| Lennie | damn :p | 14:25 |
| * lh waves | 14:25 | |
| SRabbelier | Lennie: pre-empted by the polish | 14:25 |
| lh | hi. i'm lh. i work on melange, the teachingopensource.org project, the hfoss.org project and in my copious spare time i work for google on running summer of code. | 14:26 |
| lh | i am here to be your open source den mother. | 14:26 |
| solydzajs | yay :-) | 14:26 |
| * lh makes sweeping gesture at SRabbelier | 14:26 | |
| SRabbelier | lh: I think you're confusing two things here now :P | 14:26 |
| madrazr | lh: that was not sufficient for all the work you do ;-) | 14:26 |
| solydzajs | we all love LH :-) | 14:26 |
| lh | madrazr: shh, don't blow my cover | 14:26 |
| madrazr | lh: LoL! :D | 14:26 |
| lh | SRabbelier: yes, yes i am. shhh, don't blow my cover. | 14:26 |
| * lh points at SRabbelier | 14:26 | |
| lh | i love y'all too btw | 14:26 |
| SRabbelier | I'm a Dutch student at the Delft University of Technology (classmates with Lennie) | 14:27 |
| SRabbelier | In my spare time I work on Melange :P | 14:27 |
| Lennie | Computer Science that is | 14:27 |
| solydzajs | so just so everybody knows LH is also running GHOP not just GSoC | 14:27 |
| SRabbelier | Lennie: :) | 14:27 |
| solydzajs | :-) | 14:27 |
| SRabbelier | Lennie: go wild | 14:27 |
| Lennie | surprise is gone :D | 14:27 |
| Lennie | I'll just do the boring part | 14:27 |
| madrazr | solydzajs: yeah we know lh is not a human, it is a machine :P | 14:27 |
| lh | madrazr: that's not very nice. | 14:28 |
| lh | :( | 14:28 |
| lh | solydzajs: oh yes, and ghop. | 14:28 |
| lh | lennie is awesome. | 14:28 |
| lh | Lennie: good enough intro my friend? | 14:28 |
| solydzajs | lh: actually she is a human and she is a very good one! :-) | 14:28 |
| Lennie | I'm Lennard a Computer Science student just like Sverre, and I work on Melange when I have the time :D. I'll be mentoring Merio with his Statistics project and Ill be helping out Madhu with getting GHOP up and running :) | 14:29 |
| * Lennie points at solydzajs | 14:29 | |
| solydzajs | well solydzajs points at SRabbelier to mention which projects he is mentoring and co-mentoring | 14:29 |
| Lennie | lh, :) | 14:29 |
| madrazr | lh: heh, that was intended to be a compliment :P | 14:29 |
| * lh hangs up small sign: this is the home of awesome. | 14:30 | |
| * lh imports free couch like the one we have in #gsoc | 14:30 | |
| lh | madrazr: ah, ok. | 14:30 |
| lh | :) | 14:30 |
| Lennie | from gsoc import couch :P? | 14:30 |
| SRabbelier | I'm mentoring jamtoday and dhans, and co-mentoring where needed :) | 14:30 |
| SRabbelier | Lennie: +1 | 14:30 |
| * lh always thinks of machine = machine in the matrix = humans are batteries | 14:30 | |
| * lh gets self back on topic, looks at solydzajs | 14:30 | |
| madrazr | ha ha LoL! :D | 14:30 |
| SRabbelier | lh: but... but.. you're trinity? | 14:30 |
| lh | SRabbelier: untrue. | 14:31 |
| lh | back. on. topic.! | 14:31 |
| SRabbelier | lh: I heard this on #gsoc all the time, it must be true! | 14:31 |
| lh | topic! | 14:31 |
| Lennie | !cipot | 14:31 |
| solydzajs | Ok guys, I'm Paweł Sołyga, I'm from Wroclaw, Poland. I'm computer science graduate from Wroclaw University of Technology, just received my master degree couple months ago, I'm Melange Project Lead. | 14:31 |
| * lh applauds the team | 14:31 | |
| Lennie | all hail LH :p | 14:32 |
| madrazr | 3 cheers to SRabbelier Lennie and solydzajs :) | 14:32 |
| solydzajs | just so everybody knows SRabbelier, Lennie and me are the Core Developer Team :-) so any source code related stuff ask us :-) | 14:32 |
| * jamtoday is a non-replaceable battery | 14:32 | |
| Lennie | might be nice to say that my expertise is more related to the inside code then the outside :) | 14:32 |
| SRabbelier | Lennie: backend vs frontend? | 14:32 |
| solydzajs | I'm going to mentor madrazr with GHOP features and also co-mentor statistics module projects | 14:33 |
| dhans | solydzajs: nice to hear that:) | 14:33 |
| solydzajs | Ok guys next part of the meeting | 14:33 |
| solydzajs | expectations for community bonding period, coding period, etc.; things like status reports, help with testing, etc. | 14:33 |
| Lennie | you better not go all polish on us :D | 14:33 |
| Lennie | the show is yours solydzajs | 14:34 |
| solydzajs | So as I hope all of you are aware we are now in GSoC community boning period | 14:34 |
| solydzajs | during that time we would like you to get more familiar with our codebase | 14:34 |
| solydzajs | and help with testing | 14:34 |
| solydzajs | basically we would like you to help us with writing all kind of tests | 14:35 |
| solydzajs | smoke, unit ,functional | 14:35 |
| solydzajs | extending our seed_db module etc | 14:35 |
| solydzajs | Also during that time we will talk about design of your projects and we will make decisions on how the projects should be implemented | 14:36 |
| solydzajs | so expect some discussions on our mailing groups | 14:36 |
| solydzajs | and some more meetings on #melange channel or even Skype calls | 14:36 |
| lh | solydzajs: is there a way for us to post "logs" of our skype calls? and if so would we want to? | 14:36 |
| solydzajs | I can install extension to record calls | 14:37 |
| solydzajs | and post the mp3 later | 14:37 |
| Lennie | hehe | 14:37 |
| Lennie | rather just see notes :) | 14:37 |
| Lennie | but it is possible ;P | 14:37 |
| solydzajs | yep | 14:38 |
| solydzajs | I like notes too | 14:38 |
| solydzajs | :-) | 14:38 |
| Lennie | what about the status reports solydzajs? | 14:38 |
| SRabbelier | I'd rather have notes than having to listen through a conversation :P | 14:38 |
| * lh makes note that her clever attempts to dodge note taking just met with epic. fail. | 14:38 | |
| solydzajs | Lennie: I'm not done :-) | 14:39 |
| solydzajs | GSoCers do you all agree to help us with testing ? | 14:39 |
| SRabbelier | lh: everybody listening through an entire conversation is more time than one person keeping notes ;) | 14:39 |
| lh | SRabbelier: i didn't say it was more efficient for anyone but me :p | 14:39 |
| dhans | it's ok for me... i'll try to do my best:) | 14:40 |
| lh | *ahem* testing! *ahem* | 14:40 |
| madrazr | solydzajs: yes | 14:40 |
| solydzajs | SRabbelier: you can also put the mp3 on your phone and listen to eat before sleep :-) or while jogging :D | 14:40 |
| * jamtoday will be happy to test things related to entity transactions. It will prepare me for aggregating updates | 14:40 | |
| solydzajs | Merio: you ? | 14:40 |
| Merio | solydzajs: it'd be awesome to me :) | 14:40 |
| solydzajs | ok great guys | 14:41 |
| solydzajs | next thing to discuss is status reports | 14:41 |
| *** sadrul has quit IRC | 14:42 | |
| lh | solydzajs: what about testing meeting tomorrow? please to remind us of time, locationz. | 14:42 |
| solydzajs | oh right | 14:42 |
| Lennie | that's one of the later points on the agenda :P | 14:42 |
| solydzajs | ok so I would like to encourage all of you to participate in our testing meeting on #melange tomorrow | 14:42 |
| solydzajs | at 6PM UTC | 14:42 |
| solydzajs | who can participate ? | 14:42 |
| * lh will be there | 14:42 | |
| SRabbelier | (same time as today's meeting) | 14:42 |
| madrazr | solydzajs: it is fine for me | 14:43 |
| madrazr | I will be here | 14:43 |
| dhans | I am not sure if I'll be there, but I'll try... | 14:43 |
| Merio | solydzajs: I've an appointment to see an house at 6PM UTC+1 T__T | 14:43 |
| lh | (will be in other meetings so paying as much attention as i can) | 14:43 |
| dhans | Anyway, I'll read logs for sure:) | 14:43 |
| solydzajs | ok | 14:43 |
| solydzajs | we will post the logs and notes | 14:44 |
| Merio | Me too :) | 14:44 |
| solydzajs | ok regarding status reports | 14:44 |
| solydzajs | we will require some kind of status reports from our GSoC students, during community bonding period and coding period | 14:44 |
| solydzajs | most likely weekly reports | 14:45 |
| solydzajs | basically what are you going to work on in the upcoming week and what have been done in the previous week | 14:45 |
| solydzajs | also we expect all of you to openly communicate with us regarding any problems | 14:45 |
| solydzajs | on IRC | 14:45 |
| solydzajs | or on melange-soc-dev group | 14:45 |
| SRabbelier | (with the word 'report' does not neccesarily mean a 'report' like you have to write for school :O) | 14:46 |
| solydzajs | just talk to us ;-) | 14:46 |
| Lennie | SRabbelier? I want to see 30 pages each week atleast :S | 14:46 |
| solydzajs | :D | 14:46 |
| SRabbelier | please be on #melange as much as possible for easy pingage | 14:46 |
| madrazr | SRabbelier: so you mean, you don't expect some specific format? :P | 14:46 |
| SRabbelier | Lennie: 3-5k words? | 14:46 |
| madrazr | Lennie: LoL! I will start talking to you then :D | 14:46 |
| dhans | solydzajs: won't we have access to #melange-dev channel? xD | 14:46 |
| solydzajs | dhans: we are considering it | 14:46 |
| * lh clears throat, looks at ceiling | 14:46 | |
| madrazr | Lennie: s/start/stop/ | 14:47 |
| Merio | solydzajs: weekly reports with blog posts? | 14:47 |
| solydzajs | reports will basically be some bullet points | 14:47 |
| solydzajs | yes blog posts will be nice too | 14:47 |
| dhans | solydzajs: just kidding, standard #melange is also cool:) | 14:47 |
| Merio | Lennie: As you're my mentor... need I to really worry about weekly reports? :P | 14:47 |
| Lennie | blog posts or a mail to the dev lists are cool as a weekly report right solydzajs? | 14:47 |
| solydzajs | Melange Development Blog is on it's way so we can post GSoC updates also on our Melange blog | 14:48 |
| Lennie | Merio, I've been told that I'm perfect for role as torturer in a horror movie, so yse | 14:48 |
| solydzajs | Lennie: yes | 14:48 |
| * Lennie points at madrazr for casting me into that role :P | 14:48 | |
| *** sadrul has joined #melange | 14:48 | |
| Erant | Merio: Be afraid, be very afraid. | 14:48 |
| SRabbelier | jamtoday: are you ok with keeping me up to date through #melange, or perhaps GTalk? | 14:48 |
| solydzajs | :-) | 14:48 |
| * Merio cries with fear | 14:49 | |
| Merio | Erant: ^__^ | 14:49 |
| SRabbelier | Merio: better start running while you can | 14:49 |
| madrazr | Merio: yeah I forgot to tell you, be careful about your mentor :P | 14:49 |
| Erant | SRabbelier is right. Especially about the 'while you still can' bit. | 14:49 |
| Lennie | I had so much fun torturing madrazr :) | 14:49 |
| * lh really thinks madrazr got that way wrong on lennie's potential movie roles | 14:49 | |
| solydzajs | ok let's stay on topic please | 14:50 |
| Merio | eheh | 14:50 |
| madrazr | lh: he he :) | 14:50 |
| Erant | Speaking of Lennie's potential movie roles... | 14:50 |
| Lennie | waiting on answer from jamtoday :) | 14:50 |
| lh | SRabbelier: Gtalk sucks. not logged. not public. | 14:50 |
| * Erant downloads Big Bang Theory | 14:50 | |
| SRabbelier | lh: I know, but I remember jamtoday saying he's not much of an IRC fan earlier | 14:50 |
| lh | SRabbelier: ah. clarity. | 14:50 |
| jamtoday | SRabbelier: IRC works, or gTalk | 14:50 |
| Lennie | GTalk is logged, sverre can post his logs | 14:50 |
| Erant | IRC ftw. | 14:50 |
| * Merio downloads "how to run away from your mentor for dummies" | 14:50 | |
| solydzajs | so GSoCers in the upcoming week please let us know on our mailing group what form of reports do you choose and where are you going to post them please | 14:50 |
| Lennie | but we'd rather see you on IRC :0 | 14:50 |
| SRabbelier | jamtoday: in that case IRC would be awesome, for logging and being public :) | 14:51 |
| madrazr | solydzajs: it is your call, I prefer Melange blog :) | 14:51 |
| jamtoday | Alright. I | 14:51 |
| dhans | my mIRC trial version ends in about 5 days, so first I will have to find something for free :P | 14:52 |
| jamtoday | I've already started to write up some updates and questions to post on the dev list | 14:52 |
| Lennie | dhans, doesnt matter you can keep using it after that | 14:52 |
| Erant | I suggest Linux. | 14:52 |
| solydzajs | dhans: oh there is lots of open source alternatives | 14:52 |
| SRabbelier | jamtoday: awesome :) | 14:52 |
| Merio | dhans: pidgin ftw ^__^ | 14:52 |
| jamtoday | but I'll talk to you first so I dont need to bother everyone with small questions | 14:52 |
| SRabbelier | Erant: lol :P | 14:52 |
| * Erant hides his CTCP version. | 14:52 | |
| Erant | Damned IDA. | 14:52 |
| * lh wants us to use blog for updates. team blogs are awesome. | 14:52 | |
| dhans | thanks for suggestions:) | 14:52 |
| SRabbelier | jamtoday: good idea | 14:52 |
| solydzajs | sometimes we can cross post reports from the group to our blog | 14:52 |
| dhans | Lennie: didn't know that:) | 14:52 |
| * madrazr second lh | 14:53 | |
| madrazr | I want my name to appear with whatever Melange :P | 14:53 |
| madrazr | s/second/seconds/ | 14:53 |
| SRabbelier | madrazr: I don't think you'll have to worry aobut that ;) | 14:53 |
| solydzajs | hehe :-) | 14:53 |
| solydzajs | ok | 14:53 |
| solydzajs | next topic | 14:53 |
| solydzajs | Melange Weekly Monday Conference calls | 14:53 |
| solydzajs | we are having weekly conference call on Monday | 14:54 |
| Lennie | if all works out well madrazr you'll be making a lot of high school students happy | 14:54 |
| solydzajs | at 6PM UTC on Skype | 14:54 |
| Lennie | (same time as today's meeting again) | 14:54 |
| madrazr | Lennie: I am looking forward to work those whiz kids !!! | 14:54 |
| solydzajs | who can/would like to participate in those meetings ? | 14:54 |
| Erant | Be there, or, be []. | 14:54 |
| SRabbelier | solydzajs: pick me, pick me! | 14:54 |
| * lh thinks all y'all should participate | 14:54 | |
| * SRabbelier agrees wholeheartedly with lh | 14:54 | |
| madrazr | solydzajs: I can, but I am not sure, if I can get used to the accents quickly | 14:54 |
| solydzajs | SRabbelier: you are banned :D | 14:54 |
| Erant | Smart choice. | 14:55 |
| solydzajs | lh: I agree, but it's their call :-) | 14:55 |
| SRabbelier | solydzajs: :( | 14:55 |
| Lennie | we would like to encourage you all to join as often as is possible | 14:55 |
| Lennie | they are weekly | 14:55 |
| Merio | I'll be there... trying to listen without too much "what? can you repeat? sorry?" (see before :P) | 14:55 |
| diones | Wat | 14:55 |
| * jamtoday is still figuring out that not all people live by US timezones | 14:55 | |
| SRabbelier | jamtoday: don't worry, not even Google Recruiters seem to have figured that one out | 14:56 |
| * SRabbelier mutters | 14:56 | |
| dhans | I'will also be there trying to understand all you say:) | 14:56 |
| Lennie | diones...? | 14:56 |
| solydzajs | ok who ever wants to participate in the meetings please email me offlist with your Skype IDs to pawel (dot) solyga (at) gmail (dot) com | 14:56 |
| diones | have a new cnference started just now? | 14:56 |
| madrazr | solydzajs: Ok sure | 14:56 |
| Erant | *scrape* | 14:56 |
| Lennie | diones, student meeting see topic | 14:56 |
| diones | ah ok | 14:56 |
| lh | my skype id is mebelh if y'all want it. | 14:57 |
| Lennie | hehe ^^ | 14:57 |
| Merio | solydzajs: just mailed :) | 14:57 |
| madrazr | lh: I thought it was not public :D | 14:57 |
| Erant | mebe, or for sure? | 14:57 |
| solydzajs | Merio: ok thx | 14:57 |
| solydzajs | ok guys | 14:57 |
| solydzajs | so | 14:57 |
| lh | madrazr: i dont care if you know it. | 14:57 |
| * lh looks at solydzajs, waits for next topic. | 14:58 | |
| solydzajs | Following this meeting, mentors should reach out to their student via the dev list to schedule a more in-depth first meeting regarding their projects (most likely co-mentors or other team members will participate too) | 14:58 |
| SRabbelier | read: s/most likely/very much encouraged to/ | 14:58 |
| madrazr | lh: he he :) | 14:59 |
| solydzajs | oh I think I'm done :-) | 15:00 |
| solydzajs | did I forget about anything ? | 15:00 |
| solydzajs | anybody wants to ask questions ?;-) | 15:00 |
| solydzajs | q&a now :-) | 15:00 |
| Erant | When are ya'll fixing the security issues. :P | 15:01 |
| solydzajs | Erant: I'm going to look into mentor inpersonation today, what other security issues you have in mind ? | 15:01 |
| solydzajs | Erant: IMG SRC I remember that one too | 15:01 |
| Erant | <img src= ... | 15:02 |
| lh | Erant: why don't you fix them? | 15:02 |
| solydzajs | Erant: anything else ? | 15:02 |
| Lennie | most of them will be fixed forever when we switch to another editor | 15:02 |
| SRabbelier | lh: win :P | 15:02 |
| Lennie | yeah Erant, I'll buy you shoarma :D | 15:02 |
| solydzajs | jamtoday: I have a question for you | 15:02 |
| * lh will also buy shoarma | 15:02 | |
| Lennie | Erant likes to poke holes rather then fix them lh | 15:02 |
| Lennie | he's good at ti :D | 15:02 |
| Lennie | if only Melange was writtin in Assembly, right Erant :D? | 15:02 |
| Erant | lh: To be honest, I just spent the better part of the day working, I just come home from groceries, not up much for coding. | 15:02 |
| solydzajs | jamtoday: we would like you to work also on Quiz (Survey) support for Melange, I know it was not part of your proposal but you seem to have great experience with that kind of projects on GAE | 15:03 |
| solydzajs | jamtoday: or you ok with that ? we can discuss it during separate meeting | 15:03 |
| lh | Erant: pshaw. i was up until 1 AM triaging bugs and doing wiki updates. where is your sense of adventure dude? | 15:03 |
| lh | s/adventure/insomnia | 15:03 |
| solydzajs | Lennie: I can generate him assembly code of Melange ;-) | 15:03 |
| jamtoday | solydzajs: I generally like to underpromise and overdeliver. But I will look into it and be prepared with a better answer by our next meeting | 15:04 |
| Erant | lh: That's what I'm trying to avoid ;) I've done the insomnia thing for the last 12 months playing with the Wii and associated shit. Enough is enough ;) | 15:04 |
| * Merio wants binary code of Melange :P Perhaps he can see the red woman in the code :P | 15:04 | |
| lh | Erant: !wii = GSD | 15:05 |
| SRabbelier | solydzajs: Ii would like to discuss that with you further solydzajs before i talk to james about how to add this to his proposed workflow | 15:05 |
| Erant | lh: Hmm? | 15:05 |
| lh | i bet i wrote that wrong | 15:05 |
| solydzajs | SRabbelier: ok sure no problem let me know when you want to talk | 15:05 |
| lh | Wii does not equal GSD | 15:05 |
| solydzajs | jamtoday: ok great thanks. | 15:05 |
| SRabbelier | lh: you meant Wii != GSD | 15:05 |
| Lennie | lh: the stuff he did with the Wii is GSD :P | 15:05 |
| Erant | lh: Wii != GSD, but what's GSD? | 15:05 |
| lh | SRabbelier: thank you | 15:05 |
| solydzajs | ok guys anything else to discuss ? | 15:05 |
| Lennie | Getting Stuff Done :p | 15:05 |
| Lennie | anymore questions ^^? | 15:05 |
| Erant | Ah | 15:05 |
| lh | Erant: GSD = getting stuff done. or you may define the S with more different S as you wish | 15:05 |
| Erant | Common mistake | 15:05 |
| Erant | When I say "playing with", I mean hacking, writing opensource code for it ;) | 15:06 |
| Erant | Mostly opensource code. | 15:06 |
| Lennie | ^^ | 15:06 |
| Erant | *wink* | 15:06 |
| * Lennie whistles | 15:06 | |
| madrazr | Lennie: solydzajs: can we meet for GHOP related discussion sometime, may be Thursday or later? | 15:06 |
| madrazr | may be we want lh too :) | 15:07 |
| lh | Erant: i will consider whether this is GSD. | 15:07 |
| madrazr | whenever it is possible for you guys | 15:07 |
| Erant | lh: kthx. | 15:07 |
| * lh can usually make herself available for irc meeting | 15:07 | |
| lh | er, meetings. | 15:07 |
| Lennie | I would like it if the feedback gets incorperated back into the GHOP document before that meeting :D | 15:07 |
| SRabbelier | Lennie: +1 on that | 15:08 |
| Erant | Lennie: Got any plans for thursday btw? | 15:08 |
| Lennie | not really Erant | 15:08 |
| madrazr | Lennie: which feedback? | 15:08 |
| solydzajs | madrazr: ok I will propose Saturday for GHOP meeting on the group | 15:08 |
| Lennie | madrazr, comments from you lh and pawel | 15:08 |
| lh | Lennie: what do you mean by integrate feedback? | 15:08 |
| Lennie | Erant, wanna do something? | 15:08 |
| lh | solydzajs: saturday doesnt work for me and i need to be there, can do sunday | 15:08 |
| madrazr | Lennie: ah Ok | 15:08 |
| * lh wants to get all ghop knowledge out of her head and into y'alls | 15:08 | |
| solydzajs | lh: ok Sunday works for me | 15:08 |
| Erant | Lennie: Looking at my options. I have an interview at Fox IT tomorrow, so I'm tied up then. I was thinking of going to Amsterdam. Not sure yet. | 15:09 |
| solydzajs | lh: we will figure it out on the group | 15:09 |
| lh | solydzajs: groovy. :) | 15:09 |
| solydzajs | Merio: any more questions ? | 15:09 |
| solydzajs | dhans: any more questions ? | 15:09 |
| solydzajs | jamtoday: any more questions ? | 15:09 |
| solydzajs | madrazr: any more questions ? | 15:09 |
| Merio | solydzajs: that's all fine with me | 15:09 |
| Lennie | lh, like the two new states NeedsWork and NeedsReview, they can be added to the list and your comment removed | 15:09 |
| * lh serves post meeting iced tea and cookies | 15:09 | |
| dhans | ok guys, so thanks y'all for the meeting. I have to go now. I'll try to be available for tomorrow, but if I couldn't make it, please feel free to assign me some work with tests:) | 15:09 |
| madrazr | lh: solydzajs: Sunday is fine for me it seems, if it is anytime after 6PM UTC | 15:09 |
| dhans | solydzajs: no:) | 15:09 |
| Lennie | updating the docuemtn to be ready for more comments | 15:09 |
| madrazr | solydzajs: nothing ATM | 15:09 |
| lh | Lennie: yes and i think i need to get answers from legal too, will send email re: that today | 15:09 |
| SRabbelier | lh: awesome | 15:10 |
| lh | Lennie: you are doing this or you wants me to do this? | 15:10 |
| solydzajs | lh: I replied to your GHOP comments too | 15:10 |
| solydzajs | lh: madrazr replied too | 15:10 |
| solydzajs | ok guys then I'm officially closing first GSoC Melange meeting | 15:10 |
| Lennie | I'm not doing that at the moment | 15:10 |
| solydzajs | thank you all for participation :-) | 15:10 |
| lh | solydzajs: on the wiki or on a mailing list thread? | 15:11 |
| lh | Lennie: i was going to tell you not to :p | 15:11 |
| Lennie | lol k :) | 15:11 |
| Lennie | then I will not do it at all | 15:11 |
| solydzajs | lh: on the wiki | 15:11 |
| jamtoday | thanks for choosing us to participate. This should be a great experience | 15:11 |
| Lennie | jamtoday, yw :) | 15:11 |
| solydzajs | lh: with <pawel> tags | 15:11 |
| Lennie | solydzajs, so Merio and Daniel should receive a mail tomorrow :)? | 15:11 |
| lh | solydzajs: noted, will do. | 15:12 |
| solydzajs | Lennie: yes | 15:12 |
| Lennie | awesome, Merio we'll talk after that | 15:12 |
| lh | woot! | 15:12 |
| * lh wanders off in search of sanity | 15:12 | |
| SRabbelier | jamtoday: Looking forward to working with you :) | 15:12 |
| solydzajs | btw http://gizmodo.com/5229344/the-playstation-3-bundled-with-3-games-1-bible | 15:12 |
| Merio | Lennie: that's ok, can't wait ^__^... | 15:12 |
| tpb | <http://ln-s.net/3-2H> (at gizmodo.com) | 15:12 |
| solydzajs | in Poland :-) | 15:12 |
| solydzajs | hehe | 15:12 |
| lh | ok dude. | 15:13 |
| lh | you and my roommate. gizmodo this. gizomodo that. | 15:13 |
| * lh prefers analog life man | 15:13 | |
| Lennie | so solydzajs, we'll be meeting with madrazr sunday? | 15:13 |
| Lennie | or do you have other plans for him so I know when I can join in | 15:13 |
| solydzajs | lh: well I just received this from my friend, I don't read gizmodo all the time | 15:13 |
| solydzajs | lh: it's just funny :-) | 15:14 |
| madrazr | Lennie: Sunday doesn't work for you? | 15:14 |
| Lennie | it's fine by me | 15:14 |
| solydzajs | yep Sunday is good | 15:14 |
| Lennie | as long as we keep up iterating over the GHOP docuemtn | 15:14 |
| Lennie | to get it more fleshed out by then | 15:14 |
| jamtoday | SRabbelier: Same here. btw thinking of using the internal name "sandworm" for the news feed :) | 15:14 |
| SRabbelier | jamtoday: lol :D | 15:14 |
| SRabbelier | jamtoday: Dune references ftw | 15:15 |
| Lennie | would be nice if you kept up reading the GHOP wiki | 15:15 |
| madrazr | Lennie: sure | 15:15 |
| Lennie | maybe think of some new ideas that we can discuss | 15:15 |
| madrazr | Lennie: I will be | 15:15 |
| madrazr | Ok | 15:15 |
| solydzajs | ok guys thanks again | 15:15 |
| solydzajs | ttyl | 15:16 |
| Lennie | but the apparent ground rule is , keep it simple keep it open | 15:16 |
| Lennie | for GHOP | 15:16 |
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| Lennie | ttyl solydzajs | 15:16 |
| madrazr | Lennie: yeah Ok | 15:16 |
| Lennie | right lh? | 15:16 |
| madrazr | solydzajs: thank you! | 15:16 |
| SRabbelier | jamtoday, dhans: do you two use GTalk? | 15:16 |
| SRabbelier | (use, as in, online regularly?) | 15:16 |
| Lennie | Erant, seen heroes and House yet? | 15:20 |
| SRabbelier | Lennie: don't even think about spoilering me | 15:20 |
| Erant | Neither. Just downloaded Heroes and BBT | 15:20 |
| Lennie | k | 15:20 |
| Lennie | OMG final ep of season | 15:20 |
| Lennie | omg | 15:20 |
| Erant | Making food (yes, late. Work ftl) | 15:20 |
| Lennie | :P | 15:20 |
| jamtoday | SRabbelier: yeah I'm often on gTalk, and it's a more reliable way to get my attention, since it bleeps and flashes in the tab | 15:20 |
| SRabbelier | Lennie: shush you! | 15:20 |
| SRabbelier | jamtoday: that's why I asked ;) | 15:20 |
| SRabbelier | jamtoday: I think I already sent you an add request there | 15:21 |
| Erant | Though we had an interesting 'security' again today. | 15:21 |
| Lennie | bring it | 15:21 |
| Erant | It was 1337 encryption. All the frames in the video were signed! | 15:21 |
| Erant | By an MD5 hash. | 15:21 |
| jamtoday | SRabbelier: unfortunately i have a slightly complex gmail situation, I'll ping you | 15:21 |
| Erant | ... | 15:21 |
| SRabbelier | jamtoday: lol, ok, no problem :) | 15:21 |
| Erant | 'cuz, liek, it's impossible to recalculate an MD5 hash. | 15:21 |
| jamtoday | can't yet forward gTalk across accounts | 15:22 |
| SRabbelier | Erant: what... the? | 15:22 |
| Erant | And when you tamper with it, it says "OMG ENCRYPTION FAIL". | 15:22 |
| Erant | 'encryption' my ass. | 15:22 |
| SRabbelier | Erant: lol, brilliant | 15:22 |
| Erant | And this is video material that is allowable in a US court of law. | 15:22 |
| Lennie | haha | 15:22 |
| Erant | Please note. COURT. OF. LAAAW. | 15:22 |
| solydzajs | SRabbelier: see email | 15:22 |
| Erant | As being tamper -proof- | 15:22 |
| jamtoday | SRabbelier: sent a chat invite | 15:23 |
| Lennie | rofl at MD5 as encryption :P | 15:23 |
| SRabbelier | jamtoday: got it, awesome | 15:23 |
| Erant | Lennie: They say it's encryption, while it should be a 'signature'. But it fails at that too. | 15:24 |
| SRabbelier | Erant: so, has this fail been pointed out yet to our American friends? :P | 15:24 |
| Erant | It's merely an integrity check. :/ | 15:24 |
| Erant | SRabbelier: No, as it's work-related, and thus probably going to be shushed away. | 15:25 |
| Lennie | haha | 15:25 |
| Lennie | fail :p | 15:25 |
| SRabbelier | Erant: :( | 15:25 |
| Erant | Lennie: Not so much, we're a very secretive bunch usually ;) | 15:25 |
| Erant | For example, PST file recovery is crappy at best. We have tools that do it nigh perfectly, but you won't find that on the interwebs | 15:26 |
| SRabbelier | Erant: heh, of course not, then no-one would need your services anymore | 15:27 |
| Erant | Same with this. If we can 're-encrypt' these video files, that's an edge. | 15:27 |
| SRabbelier | Erant: lmao | 15:28 |
| SRabbelier | Erant: horrible | 15:28 |
| Erant | SRabbelier: Well, there's still the hardware part of it. We still fix the HDDs physically. | 15:28 |
| SRabbelier | Erant: right, obviously :) | 15:28 |
| Lennie | PST Petroleum Storage Tank ? | 15:29 |
| Lennie | PST Potassium Sensitivity Test ? | 15:30 |
| Lennie | PST Partido Socialista de Timor (Socialist Party of Timor, East Timor) | 15:30 |
| Lennie | :P | 15:30 |
| Erant | PST is the fileformat Outlook uses to store mails | 15:30 |
| Erant | One of the things people want back most badly | 15:30 |
| Lennie | heeh | 15:30 |
| Lennie | OutlookBackup FTW | 15:30 |
| Erant | It's basically a b-tree. | 15:30 |
| Erant | Of attachments and mails. | 15:31 |
| Lennie | ouch :p | 15:31 |
| Lennie | that sucks | 15:31 |
| Erant | Lose your root node, you lose it all | 15:31 |
| Lennie | sucks indeed | 15:36 |
| Lennie | bad file structure :p | 15:36 |
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| Lennie | alteast it doesnt sound reasonable for mails | 15:36 |
| Lennie | hi lhawthorn | 15:37 |
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