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| schumaml | could one of the melange mentors please tell your admin that he should reply to my mail about the duplicate student (melange <-> gimp)? | 04:55 |
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| kblin | can we get a randomizer in melange? | 05:30 |
| kblin | :) | 05:31 |
| MatthewWilkes | to do what? | 05:38 |
| kblin | conflict resolution | 05:40 |
| kblin | :) | 05:40 |
| kblin | unless you can come up with a way to toss a coin over IRC | 05:40 |
| merbzt | kblin: I can give you some random numbers | 05:41 |
| merbzt | 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 | 05:41 |
| kblin | merbzt: I don't believe that. prove that they're random. :) | 05:41 |
| MatthewWilkes | kblin: Have you never heard of secure coin tossing? | 05:41 |
| kblin | MatthewWilkes: the only implementation I know requires a shared phone book (or similar) | 05:42 |
| kblin | a randomizer would help solve three-way conflicts as well, though | 05:43 |
| MatthewWilkes | kblin: You can do it with hash functions. I flip a coin, if it's heads I pick a large even number, tails I pick a large odd number | 05:45 |
| MatthewWilkes | I send the hash of it to you, then you call heads or tails | 05:45 |
| MatthewWilkes | Then I reveal the plaintext | 05:45 |
| kblin | hm, right | 05:45 |
| * kblin needs to brush up his crypto | 05:46 | |
| MatthewWilkes | that's the bit commitment way, there are other options with shared functions, but that gets more complex | 05:46 |
| merbzt | I have an idea | 05:46 |
| MatthewWilkes | oh yes? | 05:48 |
| merbzt | why not take a metal object shaped like a circle, lets call it a coin, then just toss it in the air an see what side it falls on, and then use that as base for the decision | 05:48 |
| kblin | how long does it take for the org list to point at my org's homepage instead of the other home page I did when signing up for the org? | 05:48 |
| kblin | merbzt: and assuming you and I want to settle a conflict based on this.. | 05:49 |
| kblin | merbzt: and I toss the coin, would you believe what I claim the coin said? | 05:49 |
| merbzt | yes :) | 05:50 |
| kblin | merbzt: ah, good. in that case a coin works :) | 05:52 |
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| MatthewWilkes | http://googleappengine.blogspot.com/2009/04/brand-new-language-on-google-app-engine.html <-- how did I miss that?! | 06:07 |
| tpb | <http://ln-s.net/38a4> (at googleappengine.blogspot.com) | 06:07 |
| kblin | yay | 06:12 |
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| mithro | SRabbelier: ping? | 06:24 |
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| carldani | hi | 06:34 |
| carldani | is anyone with high-level access in melange awake? | 06:34 |
| carldani | we are desperately trying to contact a student who had a nice proposal, but is not reacting to e-mail | 06:35 |
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| carldani | and before we fail him and give his slot to someone else, we'd like to phone him as last resort | 06:35 |
| carldani | unfortunately, his application does not list anything besides his e-mail address | 06:35 |
| carldani | and AFAIK students have to list their phone number in melange | 06:37 |
| kblin | carldani: and you're sure that communication will improve during gsoc? | 06:38 |
| carldani | well, the alternative is having three students work on the same task. that's a bit too much duplication for my taste | 06:39 |
| carldani | kblin: I hope that this student is just slow to respond due to easter or a failing university mail system or whatever | 06:41 |
| carldani | the idea is to phone him, ask for the reasons why he didn't respond and then decide | 06:41 |
| MatthewWilkes | carldani: If he hasn't given you his phone number it's not google's place to release his personal information to you (imho) | 06:50 |
| MatthewWilkes | let alone the developers of an application holding it | 06:50 |
| carldani | ok | 06:54 |
| carldani | I understand the privacy issue. | 06:55 |
| carldani | MatthewWilkes: I was told in #gsoc to ask here. Sorry if this channel is not appropriate. | 06:55 |
| carldani | I'd be happy with any way to check if that student still is alive and interested. Confirmation from Google is fine. | 06:56 |
| MatthewWilkes | carldani: I don't speak for google or melange, btw | 06:57 |
| carldani | Reading the slot allocation docs, having a failing student (due to communication issues) may reflect badly on our next slot allocation in 2010, that's why I want to resolve this ASAP | 06:58 |
| tansell | carldani, it's rare for people to have 100% success | 07:14 |
| carldani | tansell: we're a small org. we got 5 slots and gave one back. | 07:16 |
| carldani | I'd rather have the few students we select be real successes | 07:16 |
| carldani | fortunately, slot #1 is a student who was successful last year and is still active. #2 is already active somewhat and it's his first gsoc. #3 is already getting up to speed on his task. | 07:18 |
| carldani | #4 does not react. and #5 does the same as #2 and #3 | 07:19 |
| carldani | having three students on the same task is... bad. that's why I try to get contact with #4. | 07:19 |
| tansell | if it wasn't so late, I would suggest asking #5 to try something else | 07:20 |
| carldani | hm yes | 07:22 |
| carldani | most proposals came directly before the deadline, so that was not really an option. | 07:23 |
| schumaml | is there are rule that does disallow changing a project after a student has been accepted? | 07:24 |
| schumaml | e.g. both mentor and student discover problems and decide about something else | 07:25 |
| kblin | I don't think so | 07:25 |
| schumaml | so asking a student to do something else would still be possible | 07:25 |
| kblin | schumaml: I know that I didn't deliver what I proposed in 2005 and 2006 due to technical and licensing issues | 07:25 |
| schumaml | we had a student do this in 2006 because a project that nobody thought of was more worthwile | 07:26 |
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| SRabbelier | mithro: pong? | 07:40 |
| mithro | SRabbelier: how does one check that you already have a "homepage" | 07:40 |
| mithro | I'm pretty sure we do | 07:40 |
| mithro | but it was not clear how to check it | 07:40 |
| schumaml | there is a "Home" link on the webapp | 07:42 |
| SRabbelier | mithro: click your org in the 'list particpatin orgs' page | 07:42 |
| SRabbelier | mithro: and verify that you don't get redirected to /show | 07:42 |
| kblin | schumaml: that doesn't seem to be it, though | 07:47 |
| mithro | SRabbelier: confirmed! | 07:48 |
| SRabbelier | mithro: ok, good :) | 07:48 |
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| schumaml | kblin: why not? | 07:59 |
| kblin | schumaml: it seems to link to a different page for me | 08:00 |
| schumaml | it does link to the document I've set as home page link id for us | 08:02 |
| kblin | hm, let me retry | 08:02 |
| kblin | ok, now it does | 08:02 |
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| kblin | seems like I bumped into a caching issue of sorts | 08:03 |
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| carldani | ookay. it seems I figured out the phone number of our problematic student with a creative google search. we'll see what happens. | 10:27 |
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| Lennie | solydzajs | 11:57 |
| Lennie | wassup? | 11:57 |
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| solydzajs | hey :-) | 11:57 |
| solydzajs | well fixing some style bugs by Dan :-) | 11:57 |
| Lennie | oh | 11:58 |
| Lennie | daniel :P | 11:58 |
| solydzajs | Merio: ping :-) | 11:58 |
| Lennie | SRabbelier: pong? | 11:58 |
| Merio | solydzajs: pong | 11:58 |
| Merio | Ehehe Lennie ^__^ Lemmings ... great game ^__^ | 11:59 |
| solydzajs | dhans: ping | 11:59 |
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| solydzajs | ok | 12:07 |
| solydzajs | dhans: Merio : so here is the thing | 12:07 |
| solydzajs | both of you have written statistics module proposals | 12:07 |
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| Lennie | solydzajs, stay awake :P | 12:11 |
| solydzajs | I"m awake | 12:12 |
| solydzajs | I'm just waiting if they are alive | 12:12 |
| dhans | yes, we are :-) | 12:12 |
| Merio | I'm alive too :) | 12:12 |
| Merio | (hi dhans ^__^) | 12:12 |
| Lennie | see they were waiting for the big boss to talk :P | 12:13 |
| solydzajs | ok so the statistics module in general is a huge project | 12:13 |
| solydzajs | because it involves working with backend, frontend | 12:13 |
| dhans | Merio: nice to meet you too | 12:13 |
| solydzajs | ajax, google visualization api, chart api, maps api | 12:13 |
| solydzajs | GSoC stats, GHOP stats | 12:13 |
| solydzajs | Developer stats | 12:13 |
| solydzajs | etc | 12:13 |
| Merio | agree | 12:13 |
| solydzajs | and we are trying to divide it into two smaller projects | 12:14 |
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| solydzajs | so that both projects can be done in parallel | 12:15 |
| solydzajs | we considering dividing it based on GSoC stats/ GHOP stats | 12:15 |
| solydzajs | backend/ frontend | 12:15 |
| solydzajs | APIs usage Maps API/Visualization API/ Chart API | 12:15 |
| solydzajs | would this be of your interest still if we divide into two smaller projects ? | 12:16 |
| Lennie | (and if so what would you like to do) | 12:17 |
| dhans | I think I would be | 12:17 |
| solydzajs | if you get accepted you will work separately on your parts but somewhat in close collaboration | 12:17 |
| Merio | To me that'd be great to work together on this | 12:17 |
| solydzajs | GSoC role is that student needs to work on his project alone | 12:18 |
| solydzajs | that's why we are trying to divide into two separate ones | 12:18 |
| solydzajs | but like I said with close collaboration | 12:18 |
| Merio | My opinion is to divide it in backend/frontend, if it's ok for daniel and for you all, I can work better and faster on the JS frontend (you know the reason) | 12:19 |
| Merio | But it's really up to you, it's only IMHO | 12:19 |
| solydzajs | dhans: what do you think ? | 12:20 |
| dhans | I also feel a little bit better with frontend, but it is ok for me to work with backend | 12:20 |
| solydzajs | that's why I would you both to work a little bit on both | 12:22 |
| solydzajs | not just backend/ frontend | 12:22 |
| solydzajs | because frontend is always more fun :-) | 12:22 |
| dhans | :-) | 12:22 |
| Merio | That's ok for me, as long as we can collaborate closely to avoid different code styles for both, I guess it would be difficult to mantain afterwards. I think it would be a great learning experience if so | 12:24 |
| dhans | for me it is really ok with backend/frontend, but as you said these projects are in close collaboration with each other so Mario and I would have to work on them together | 12:25 |
| dhans | I mean we have to at least talk with each other quite often | 12:26 |
| Merio | I'm agree | 12:26 |
| Lennie | It should be possible for you dhans to do like the Developers stats page, so you can get some JS experience :) | 12:27 |
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| Lennie | iirc your proposal states that you want to get some API experience and it would be nice to make that happen as well | 12:28 |
| dhans | hmm I think yes, but will the developers stat page contain completely different stats than the stats that Mario will be responsible for? | 12:28 |
| Lennie | yeah, I think that page might contain less information and about other subjects | 12:29 |
| dhans | so it is ok for me | 12:29 |
| Lennie | anyhow, we still need to decide how this is going to work :) | 12:29 |
| solydzajs | ok guys I will write a project plan and try to divide it into two separate projects | 12:30 |
| solydzajs | so we will see | 12:30 |
| solydzajs | if you get accepted we will contact you both and decide what's the plan is | 12:30 |
| solydzajs | I just wanted to know if you are ok with it | 12:30 |
| dhans | ok, so we will see on Monday :) | 12:31 |
| Merio | That's ok for me :) | 12:31 |
| solydzajs | ok thanks for the chat guys | 12:32 |
| dhans | thank you :) | 12:32 |
| Merio | thank you :) | 12:32 |
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| SRabbelier | solydzajs: ping | 13:51 |
| SRabbelier | lh: ping | 13:51 |
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| solydzajs | SRabbelier: it's done | 13:51 |
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| SRabbelier | solydzajs: ah, how'd you do it? | 13:51 |
| solydzajs | SRabbelier: get all orgs and this json assign and then assign slots from json to orgs objects and then put() on all orgs | 13:57 |
| SRabbelier | solydzajs: ok, fair enough | 13:58 |
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| madrazr | Lennie: see you next year was really funny :D | 14:43 |
| Lennie | :P | 14:43 |
| madrazr | LoL! | 14:43 |
| madrazr | Lennie: http://bitbucket.org/madhusudancs/melange-mq/src/f637e7f6d026/org_home_map.patch | 14:46 |
| tpb | <http://ln-s.net/38i8> (at bitbucket.org) | 14:46 |
| madrazr | this the current state of the patch, JS issue still not resolved :( | 14:46 |
| Lennie | ok | 14:47 |
| Lennie | madrazr, looks nice | 14:47 |
| Lennie | Merio | 14:47 |
| Lennie | do you have time to work with madrazr? | 14:47 |
| madrazr | Lennie: patch or bitbucket interface? :P | 14:47 |
| Lennie | both :) | 14:47 |
| madrazr | Lennie: HA HA :d | 14:48 |
| madrazr | Lennie: I have already asked Merio :) | 14:48 |
| Lennie | awesome | 14:48 |
| Merio | Lennie: sorry, yesterday and today had some hard times working | 14:49 |
| Lennie | k | 14:49 |
| Merio | madrazr: I'm exploring the issue however :) | 14:49 |
| madrazr | Merio: again, no urgency take time. I am doing everything possible from my side too to solve the issue | 14:49 |
| madrazr | Merio: awesome! take time :) | 14:50 |
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| madrazr | Lennie|Gone: we are very close to fixing the issue :) | 15:32 |
| Lennie|Gone | SRabbelier | 15:33 |
| Lennie|Gone | ping | 15:33 |
| SRabbelier | Lennie|Gone: oh? | 15:33 |
| Lennie|Gone | awesome madrazr | 15:33 |
| madrazr | awesome redirected to Merio :D | 15:33 |
| Merio | madrazr: awesome ponged :) Let's play ^_^ | 15:37 |
| madrazr | Merio: he he | 15:38 |
| Merio | madrazr: you need to push back the awesome to Lennie|Gone now :P ^__^ Ok stop kidding :P | 15:45 |
| madrazr | Merio: HA HA :D | 15:47 |
| madrazr | LoL! | 15:47 |
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