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| micolous[m] | Weird... | 00:03 |
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| CarlFK | whats weird? | 00:06 |
| xfxf | CarlFK: ty for your help earlier, rubyconf went well, all videos up | 00:12 |
| CarlFK | toally weird ;) | 00:13 |
| xfxf | what's the status update on the LCA conference close video? i was pinged about it earlier - again happy to help action stuff if you need. i'll deal with the slug fun today... | 00:13 |
| CarlFK | old copy needs to be pulled from the LA mirror, new one needs to be put up, someone (you) should double check that all the copies are really the same (58 min long is a good check) | 00:15 |
| CarlFK | and then it's clear for public/tweet/done | 00:15 |
| xfxf | sweet, i'll do that today if you want | 00:16 |
| xfxf | last night was interesting: the entire LCA2019 YT channel was shut down due to 'spammy/deceptive behaviour' | 00:16 |
| xfxf | mithro chased it up and apparently it's because we disabled comments on the systemd video and a bunch of angry people then reported/flagged the video | 00:17 |
| xfxf | which is both hilarious and scary | 00:17 |
| xfxf | back online now anyway | 00:17 |
| CarlFK | all tobi cleared the conference close, I sent out the url email - so its moving down the pipe | 00:17 |
| xfxf | excellent | 00:17 |
| CarlFK | I saw the youtbe thing. yeah, all that | 00:17 |
| xfxf | and yeah, i'll check over the mirror files today, i imagine that's going to be interesting | 00:18 |
| xfxf | CarlFK: rubyconf also had a transcriptionist who was keen to work with me on integrating the captions into the videos | 01:07 |
| xfxf | poked around the steno software she uses, it appears to support streaming text over the network in some proprietry protocol, often used on court rooms etc | 01:08 |
| xfxf | i think i can probably write something that pretends to be the device, and we can then save that alongside video data in realtime | 01:08 |
| xfxf | i've asked her to provide a quote for pycon au - if that goes ahead i'll see what we can do. would be neat to integrate it into our pipeline | 01:08 |
| CarlFK | see if you can get data for the current event | 01:09 |
| xfxf | yeah, i have that, but it's ascii files with timestamps | 01:09 |
| CarlFK | can you put it somewhere I can play with | 01:09 |
| xfxf | plan was to play with that first, but we want the text in real time if we're going to integrate it into veyepars workflow | 01:09 |
| xfxf | i'll forward it to you | 01:09 |
| xfxf | email forwarded | 01:10 |
| CarlFK | oh gross. did you look at it? | 01:11 |
| xfxf | yes, it's pretty hard to parse | 01:11 |
| xfxf | there's proprietry formats I can get too, but the specs weren't easily obtainable | 01:12 |
| xfxf | hence my comments above about getting the data in real time - we can save it out however we want then. the issue with files is we only get them at the end of each day | 01:12 |
| xfxf | which will hold up video processing | 01:12 |
| xfxf | forwarded you another email, it has transcriptions from an earlier event in the software's proprietry format | 01:14 |
| xfxf | i kinda came to the conclusion trying to parse it was a waste of time though, writing some python server that pretends to be the device court rooms use for live transcriptions is a better route | 01:15 |
| xfxf | also: transcriptionists make us look dirt cheap :P | 01:16 |
| xfxf | still would love to figure out how to do it with volunteers, but I don't think it's ever going to be something that you can get newbies good at rapidly - we can't simplify/abstract it like we can with video stuff | 01:18 |
| CarlFK | scc is the best format I got from the 2 years of Chris's nbpy | 01:19 |
| xfxf | and I totally don't see any success in an attempt to encourage some volunteers to do it regularly at user groups or whatever - hell getting people to do video stuff regularly is hard | 01:19 |
| xfxf | ah, you've parsed it before? | 01:19 |
| CarlFK | yes | 01:20 |
| xfxf | different steno's use different software, so i suspect the file formats will be different | 01:20 |
| CarlFK | it's like video ;) | 01:20 |
| xfxf | hooray | 01:20 |
| xfxf | ffmpeg does steno formats, right? :P | 01:20 |
| CarlFK | and cat videos. | 01:21 |
| xfxf | CC'ed you on an email | 01:22 |
| xfxf | oh man. there were SO many cat videos at rubyconf | 01:22 |
| xfxf | the biggest thing I learnt from it is the ruby community really really loves cats | 01:22 |
| CarlFK | I think we need to tie it into voctomix and streaming - that's the only way the steno people/conf people will help get things integrated | 01:23 |
| xfxf | yeah, i had ideas about that, use gstreamer to provide a transparent layer of the live transcriptions overlayed on the stream | 01:24 |
| xfxf | but I agree, it needs to be visible live. otherwise it becomes a 'later' problem which holds up everything | 01:24 |
| CarlFK | I wouldn't try to render the text - leave it as text in a ... media track? | 01:24 |
| CarlFK | all the things already support subtitles. | 01:25 |
| xfxf | for the uploaded videos yes - WebVVT. talking about the YT streaming tho, I don't think there's any mechanism for it there | 01:25 |
| CarlFK | I bet there is | 01:25 |
| xfxf | well, if there is, then ya, use that | 01:25 |
| CarlFK | youtube vids have subtitles and a pretty nice editor (I used it a few months ago to put lyrics on a song) | 01:26 |
| xfxf | i'm talking streaming :) i know YT vids support WebVVT | 01:26 |
| CarlFK | I can't imagine yt doesn't support captions | 01:26 |
| CarlFK | yt live | 01:26 |
| xfxf | ah, yt live does have a 'caption ingest URL' | 01:26 |
| xfxf | there you go, is possible | 01:26 |
| CarlFK | im surprised its separate | 01:27 |
| xfxf | either way, it's something I'd love to solve - i just haven't recorded any events with transcriptionists in forever, so haven't had a chance | 01:27 |
| xfxf | i'm not, I don't think any of the current web streaming protocols support it | 01:28 |
| CarlFK | I wonder what CCC does | 01:29 |
| xfxf | i think they roll their own solution | 01:29 |
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| xfxf | CarlFK: forwarded you lots of alternative format transcriptions | 09:08 |
| xfxf | I don't plan on doing anything with them for this event officially, but may end up playing with them for curosity | 09:10 |
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| xfxf | hooray, all LCA videos done. bar two of peter chubb's but i suspect clearance just won't happen, so shrug | 16:15 |
| xfxf | i wrote a dirty quick script to generate a markdown index too, http://mirror.linux.org.au/pub/linux.conf.au/2019/FILES.md | 16:16 |
| xfxf | slugs fixed as well, both filenames and in the database, and removed old files | 16:16 |
| CarlFK | not quite done yet.. I gotta bug Jake about fixing archive and presenter kathy wants to know why her vide isn't up: https://veyepar.nextdayvideo.com/main/C/lca/S/lca2019/E/14543/ | 16:28 |
| tpb | Title: veyepar: Mozilla Project Things Workshop (at veyepar.nextdayvideo.com) | 16:28 |
| CarlFK | A: json says released:false | 16:28 |
| CarlFK | and yeah, im gonna make slugs follow the title | 16:31 |
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