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| xfxf | CarlFK: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1hDwqeC9urrFZPuPMtBY6Y6VSOkYSrNq-QWrnpd2NQxI | 06:00 |
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| tpb | Title: Google Docs - create and edit documents online, for free. (at docs.google.com) | 06:00 |
| xfxf | trying to get you an IP. i'm not home, it's dissapeared, lol. trying a different way | 06:00 |
| xfxf | there's definitely a few things on the doc above you don't know about so have a look | 06:00 |
| xfxf | CarlFK: IPv6 and IPv4 (NAT port forward, different port) are in the doc | 06:13 |
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| xfxf | tumbleweed: as a DD, how do you run debian on your laptop? stable, testing or unstable? | 09:59 |
| xfxf | i just tried installing stable onto my 5 year old lenovo, it's all sorts of broken | 09:59 |
| xfxf | the way I *used* to run it years ago was to run testing with the occasional package pinned from unstable. back then that was considered dumb but it was a relatively sane way of using it; any bugs I logged would generally be fixed within days (and then pin the package from unstable, install it, happy days) | 10:00 |
| tumbleweed | xfxf: testing. Many people run unstable. Some run stable | 10:11 |
| tumbleweed | testing with some unstable, yeah | 10:12 |
| tumbleweed | it seems to be the best option | 10:12 |
| tumbleweed | you should never need to pin packages from unstable, if you set testing as the default-release, then packages from unstable will be replaced by newer packages from unstable, until they migrate to testing, then it stays on testing again | 10:13 |
| xfxf | i pinned packages from unstable as it seemed the easiest way to get fixes needed after reporting them | 10:56 |
| xfxf | whereas testing packages had to have no bugs logged against them for 10 days before they'd go unstable > testing | 10:57 |
| xfxf | assume this is the same - i haven't done this for a good part of a decade | 10:57 |
| xfxf | (i occasionally would pin packages from experimental too :P) | 10:58 |
| xfxf | but right, sounds like no need to pin, just ensure unstable repo's are there and apt install from that? | 10:58 |
| xfxf | i vaguely recall that not being possible at one point, you had to pin packages to specific releases or versions | 10:58 |
| tumbleweed | just ensure unstable is available, and that apt has a default-release preference for testing | 11:15 |
| tumbleweed | i.e. pinning testing, but at a low enough level that you can install and get upgradse from unstable when desired | 11:15 |
| xfxf | ack, will do | 11:17 |
| xfxf | already using the testing install iso over the stable one is a million times better | 11:17 |
| xfxf | dselect in debian-installer still makes me laugh, 'print server' is an option | 11:18 |
| xfxf | that was relevant in like 1998 :P | 11:18 |
| xfxf | i assume 'print server' installs cups, though | 11:19 |
| xfxf | aka 'printer support' | 11:19 |
| tumbleweed | testing is sometimes not installable :( | 11:21 |
| tumbleweed | so installing from stable and upgrading is a thing | 11:21 |
| xfxf | ya - it sounds like all the assumptions i've made about using debian since potato (2001?) are still the same | 11:21 |
| tumbleweed | nothing changes | 11:21 |
| xfxf | yup, that's what I usually do, but i'm doing a UEFI install and it broke horribly at grub | 11:22 |
| xfxf | apparently not, ha | 11:22 |
| tumbleweed | it should work | 11:24 |
| xfxf | ya, it didn't. should prob log a bug | 11:24 |
| xfxf | the debian logo on the top of the graphical debian-installer was all wierdly stretched out, too | 11:24 |
| xfxf | bah, broken on testing too | 11:32 |
| xfxf | actually scratch that, found the issue | 11:41 |
| xfxf | first boot, everything works that was broken on latest ubuntu | 11:42 |
| xfxf | hooray \o/ | 11:42 |
| xfxf | CarlFK: let me know if the IP I supplied doesn't work - haven't seen you log on | 11:49 |
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| CarlFK | xfxf: neither worked - No route to host | 17:43 |
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| xfxf | CarlFK: IPv4 works for me from another box in the US: | 20:40 |
| xfxf | xf@biosphere:~$ ssh -p 2228 [email protected] | 20:40 |
| xfxf | [email protected]'s password: | 20:40 |
| xfxf | Linux storage 4.9.0-8-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 4.9.130-2 (2018-10-27) x86_64 | 20:40 |
| xfxf | i'll brb, upgrading this linode this IRC session is running on | 20:42 |
| CarlFK | ah, I cut/pasted the port, then typed it wrong | 20:42 |
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