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| adrian_broher | Nagilum_, do you have a repository for the debian control files somewhere in a public space? | 10:05 |
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| Nagilum_ | no, but you can download them from the repo and I can create a repo on github | 10:06 |
| Nagilum_ | hmm, actually there already is one, just haven't updated it :> let me see how that works | 10:07 |
| Nagilum_ | ah now, thats just what I'm watching | 10:08 |
| Nagilum_ | s/now/no/ | 10:08 |
| ADIVI | moin moin ihr landratten | 10:09 |
| ADIVI | _nagi hast den OP gefixt bekommen? hat er gefehlt? | 10:09 |
| ADIVI | oder knappper: problem passed or solved? | 10:10 |
| Nagilum_ | adrian_broher: https://github.com/Nagilum23/FO-debian | 10:14 |
| tpb | Title: Nagilum23/FO-debian · GitHub (at github.com) | 10:14 |
| Nagilum_ | ADIVI: nein, problem ist noch da | 10:15 |
| adrian_broher | Nagilum_, wo wird denn da der compile angestoßen? | 10:18 |
| Nagilum_ | in debian/control via dh_auto_build | 10:19 |
| adrian_broher | da gibt es aber keinen debian ordner | 10:20 |
| Nagilum_ | asso stimmt | 10:20 |
| adrian_broher | http://anonscm.debian.org/gitweb/?p=pkg-games/freeorion.git ? | 10:21 |
| tpb | <http://ln-s.net/AiRC> (at anonscm.debian.org) | 10:21 |
| Nagilum_ | ich hab direkt den inhalt des debian ordners in das repo getan | 10:21 |
| Nagilum_ | owner: Dmitry Smirnov | 10:22 |
| Nagilum_ | not me | 10:22 |
| adrian_broher | in dem fall ist da aber kein dh_auto_build aufruf | 10:22 |
| adrian_broher | wenn ich mir control bei github anschauen | 10:23 |
| adrian_broher | -n | 10:23 |
| Nagilum_ | https://github.com/Nagilum23/FO-debian/blob/master/rules | 10:23 |
| tpb | Title: FO-debian/rules at master · Nagilum23/FO-debian · GitHub (at github.com) | 10:23 |
| Nagilum_ | Zeile 20 | 10:23 |
| adrian_broher | du kann jetzt ein paar der override aufrufe entfernen | 10:25 |
| adrian_broher | cmake installiert nun ogre_plugins.cfg, die freeorion.desktop und die icons so wie es sein sollte. | 10:25 |
| Nagilum_ | hmm, mal testen | 10:26 |
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| adrian_broher | Nagilum_, weißt du woher die Ubuntu Benutzer ihr FreeOrion Paket hernehmen? | 11:55 |
| Nagilum_ | http://sourceforge.net/projects/freeorion/files/FreeOrion/Test/Ubuntu/ ? | 11:56 |
| tpb | <http://ln-s.net/AiVG> (at sourceforge.net) | 11:56 |
| Nagilum_ | wird aus dem gleichen quellen gebaut wie das debian paket | 11:56 |
| Nagilum_ | s/dem/den | 11:57 |
| adrian_broher | dann kannst du doch die versionen der abhängigkeiten definieren, oder? | 11:58 |
| adrian_broher | Damit so etwas unterbunden wird http://www.freeorion.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=25&t=8678 | 11:59 |
| tpb | <http://ln-s.net/AiVX> (at www.freeorion.org) | 11:59 |
| Nagilum_ | hmm, oder auch dafür bauen | 12:01 |
| adrian_broher | das eine schließt das andere nicht aus | 12:01 |
| Nagilum_ | bisher gabs halt keine probleme.. | 12:02 |
| adrian_broher | aber das man funktionsunfähige pakete installieren kann geht einfach nicht. | 12:02 |
| Nagilum_ | naja, wenn man n deb fürn anderes release installiert muss sich nicht wundern imho | 12:09 |
| adrian_broher | darum geht es doch | 12:09 |
| adrian_broher | das deb sollte genug metainformationen enthalten das deb/apt/aptitude direkt dem nutzer: junge geht nicht. | 12:09 |
| adrian_broher | sagen kann | 12:09 |
| Nagilum_ | erstmal guckn obs da n Unterschied gibt | 12:12 |
| adrian_broher | vielleicht interessant: http://trac.wxwidgets.org/ticket/14157 | 12:15 |
| tpb | Title: #14157 (Built in libpng can conflict with the system one) – wxWidgets (at trac.wxwidgets.org) | 12:15 |
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| ADIVI | What is that: | 14:09 |
| ADIVI | This message has been submitted successfully, but it will need to be approved by a moderator before it is publicly viewable. You will be notified when your post has been approved. | 14:09 |
| ADIVI | I expect this Time a Reaction - I wont state that a real Explanation can get provided ... so WHAT IS THAT? | 14:10 |
| ADIVI | I do this Time really expect -- wont kick that Item from list and it stalls alll othejr | 14:14 |
| ADIVI | way of perhaps you noted -- we changed your password -- is INACCEPTABLE! add Stress of Words like Seven o Nine does | 14:19 |
| ADIVI | secrete Move of my threads without notification is INACCEPTABLE!! did you already found .. they are now somewhere else - just search for ... NO! Enough is Enough! Answers! | 14:21 |
| adrian_broher | stop shitposting. | 14:23 |
| ADIVI | was sagst du lusche? | 14:24 |
| ADIVI | ich soll DEINE SCHEISSE nicht posten? | 14:25 |
| ADIVI | das schreibst du mir so aufs Terminal? | 14:25 |
| ADIVI | mach mir keinen weiteren adrenalin needle peek .... ich zähl nit mehr fliegen am frontkühler .. verstehst du meine arithmetik? | 14:28 |
| ADIVI | nimm zur kenntnis das ich GRUND habe angepisst zu sein ..... schaffst den den darwin score oder fällt dir was lustiges ein? | 14:29 |
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| adrian_broher | Du wolltest eine Begründung weshalb deine Beiträge moderiert werden. 'Hör mit dem Shitposting auf' sollte doch als Erklärung reichen. | 14:37 |
| STalKer-X | every great project needs a | 15:22 |
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| tomreyn | to be serious, this person makes it less fun to idle on this channel | 16:52 |
| tomreyn | (not sure that matters) | 16:52 |
| GeofftheMedio | can't do much about it on IRC | 16:53 |
| tomreyn | so you expect him to evade a ban? | 16:53 |
| tomreyn | or her, not sure which | 16:53 |
| GeofftheMedio | would just need to log back in with a different name? | 16:54 |
| GeofftheMedio | dunno... never banned someone from IRC | 16:54 |
| tomreyn | hopefully you would not need to, there's no reliable way to do it for sure. | 16:54 |
| tomreyn | also convincing people works much better if it works | 16:54 |
| Afdal | are you two talking about that weird guy | 16:59 |
| Afdal | I think he might actually be autistic | 17:00 |
| tomreyn | i've seen several projects consisting exclusively of spare time volunteers disrupted by few, often single people. while diversity is important, and also being nice to people who are in a different state of mind, it's also important not to spend too much scarce time on people woh are disruptive to the projects goals in that making them feel ok takes a lot of time. i don't know whether that's happening here, it doesn't seem so now, but i hope yo | 17:00 |
| tomreyn | u're well aware of this danger. | 17:00 |
| tomreyn | might be that he's autistic, but it doesn't really matter what you call it. | 17:00 |
| Afdal | I'm afraid to ask if anyone wants to play FreeOrion when he's in here now | 17:01 |
| Afdal | in case he might start talking to me again -_- | 17:01 |
| GeofftheMedio | isn't there some way to ignore specific users in IRC? | 17:01 |
| GeofftheMedio | maybe only in your local client? | 17:01 |
| Afdal | yes | 17:01 |
| Afdal | /ignore | 17:01 |
| Afdal | is the usual command | 17:01 |
| Afdal | I don't wanna do that though | 17:02 |
| GeofftheMedio | ? | 17:02 |
| Afdal | He started up this wacky conversation with me about the forum and blogging one time | 17:02 |
| Afdal | and it took me ages to get through to him that I had no clue what he was even talking about | 17:02 |
| GeofftheMedio | I don't think he cares | 17:03 |
| GeofftheMedio | but why don't you want to ignore? | 17:03 |
| tomreyn | yes there is /ignore, but as long as someone responds to him this is not too useful. | 17:03 |
| Afdal | W-well... | 17:03 |
| Afdal | Don't wanna be rude... | 17:03 |
| GeofftheMedio | ...? no different than just ignoring him | 17:04 |
| GeofftheMedio | except without your client being spammed | 17:04 |
| Afdal | What if he /msgs me again and I never asnwer I:} | 17:04 |
| GeofftheMedio | then he might stop messaging you | 17:04 |
| GeofftheMedio | mission accomplished? | 17:04 |
| Afdal | I'll /ignore him when I'm finally convinced that he's just an elaborate troll | 17:05 |
| GeofftheMedio | your choice | 17:05 |
| tomreyn | anyways, i just wanted to explain my point of view (and why i'm loosing interest to start contributing before i actually did, and that it might be similar for others) | 17:05 |
| Afdal | I wish I had more to contribute | 17:06 |
| GeofftheMedio | why does someone posting in IRC make you not want to contribute? | 17:06 |
| Afdal | Maybe if people in here actually played the game together we could get some more real multiplayer balance feedback | 17:06 |
| * Afdal winks | 17:07 | |
| STalKer-X | ugh, playing games o.o | 17:10 |
| Afdal | madness | 17:11 |
| STalKer-X | choleric autism is quite bad ^^ | 17:14 |
| tomreyn | the content and amount of content he posts and that it seems to be accepted make me think that this group is too open, will allow itself to be disrupted easily by single people, and when it happens now, it may happen anytime in the future. i don't want to contribute to a project where i need to fear this project may get disrupted this way, and that communication within the community will always be difficult. when it's a hobby project, it *has* | 17:15 |
| tomreyn | to be fun, especially for those of us who do similar things for paid work. | 17:15 |
| GeofftheMedio | hrm. well, after numerous complaints, his forum posting has been limited to require approval for all posts | 17:16 |
| GeofftheMedio | but this is probably one of the worst cases that's come up in FreeOrion's 10+ years | 17:17 |
| tomreyn | glad to hear this :) | 17:17 |
| GeofftheMedio | at least by me, his posts and IRC are just ignored | 17:18 |
| GeofftheMedio | so I don't find them particularly disruptive | 17:18 |
| GeofftheMedio | the amount of time other people spend complaining about him was a bit worrisome though | 17:18 |
| GeofftheMedio | which finally prompted the approval-only change yesterday | 17:18 |
| STalKer-X | an additional problem is: english is not his first language | 17:19 |
| GeofftheMedio | there's been some discussion about whether that actually makes a difference | 17:20 |
| tomreyn | i didn't notice you applied forum restrictions since i only hung out here so far. so that's my very limited perspective. i don't mean to complain, just to provide an exemplary POV of someone idling on your IRC channel and what it does with him. | 17:20 |
| GeofftheMedio | IRC is not really representative of the project | 17:20 |
| GeofftheMedio | most contributors don't come here | 17:20 |
| STalKer-X | it's a bit more lively now ;) | 17:20 |
| GeofftheMedio | I 'm away for months at a time | 17:20 |
| GeofftheMedio | little of substance is discussed here | 17:21 |
| STalKer-X | oh yeah, FO won | 17:21 |
| STalKer-X | FO won't compile in vs2012 | 17:21 |
| STalKer-X | at least for me :D | 17:21 |
| GeofftheMedio | I never tried | 17:21 |
| GeofftheMedio | you'd probably need to update all the dependencies | 17:21 |
| GeofftheMedio | and the interface in that version is so horrendous I just gave up even trying to use it | 17:22 |
| STalKer-X | probably. and the parser fails to compile because of memory stuff | 17:22 |
| GeofftheMedio | have 8 GB and run one file at a time | 17:22 |
| STalKer-X | is there some kind of cmake that uses the msvc compiler? | 17:22 |
| Afdal | I've never actually seen one of these posts on the forum of his that people seem to be complaining about | 17:22 |
| GeofftheMedio | http://www.freeorion.org/forum/viewtopic.php?p=66865#p66865 | 17:23 |
| tpb | <http://ln-s.net/AiiR> (at www.freeorion.org) | 17:23 |
| STalKer-X | GeofftheMedio: how do i tell msvc to compile one file at a time? :D | 17:24 |
| GeofftheMedio | you can tell it to compile just one file in 2010 by right clicking that file | 17:24 |
| GeofftheMedio | also set max number of parallel project builds in options / projects and solutions / build and run | 17:25 |
| GeofftheMedio | and in VC++ project settings, maximum concurrent C++ cores | 17:25 |
| GeofftheMedio | cores/compliations | 17:26 |
| GeofftheMedio | http://www.freeorion.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=6&p=66668#p66668 | 17:27 |
| Afdal | dis guy is hilarious | 17:27 |
| tpb | <http://ln-s.net/Aiic> (at www.freeorion.org) | 17:27 |
| Afdal | It's like some sort of strange hybrid combination of | 17:28 |
| GeofftheMedio | http://www.freeorion.org/forum/viewtopic.php?p=67164#p67164 | 17:28 |
| tpb | <http://ln-s.net/Aiig> (at www.freeorion.org) | 17:28 |
| Afdal | instant messaging shorthand, ebonics, and foreign English | 17:28 |
| Afdal | holy walls of text batman | 17:32 |
| GeofftheMedio | after various requests to improve his posts, with specific suggestions of how, and escalating text dump lengths, we arrive at the approval-requiring of today | 17:37 |
| Afdal | So what's your opinion on the most interesting galaxy shape to play Geoff? | 17:41 |
| GeofftheMedio | I have none | 17:42 |
| Afdal | >.> | 17:42 |
| STalKer-X | i like to play it big | 17:43 |
| tomreyn | i would liek to play a game online but for me it gets too slow towards the middle of a game | 17:44 |
| Afdal | Well we could always stop a game in the middle and continue it later | 17:44 |
| GeofftheMedio | define "slow" ? | 17:44 |
| tomreyn | i've got an older graphics card, though | 17:44 |
| tomreyn | the GUI gets tough to use | 17:44 |
| Afdal | yeah same for me | 17:44 |
| Afdal | well it depends on the number of systems obviously | 17:45 |
| * Sector notes there's also an option to set the mode so a particular user can't say anything in the channel. | 17:45 | |
| tomreyn | zooming in and out and opening menus takes seconds | 17:46 |
| STalKer-X | he'll complain. | 17:46 |
| Afdal | yes that's what happens to me | 17:46 |
| tomreyn | i'm on ubuntu 13.10 x86_64, 8 gb ram, core 2 quad | 17:46 |
| Afdal | as well as the turn-taking step ratcheting up | 17:46 |
| Afdal | you've got way better specs than me though | 17:47 |
| STalKer-X | is it as bad as se5? | 17:47 |
| GeofftheMedio | various performance improvements are ongoing | 17:47 |
| Afdal | I should give FreeOrion on Xubuntu a try sometime | 17:47 |
| Afdal | Do you need to compile anything for FreeOrion on linux? | 17:47 |
| tomreyn | rv560 GPU (ati radeon x1650 xt) | 17:48 |
| Afdal | :o | 17:48 |
| Afdal | mine's a radeon x1600 xt | 17:48 |
| tomreyn | so those is our weak spot | 17:48 |
| Afdal | I only have 2 GB of RAM and a pretty old CPU though | 17:48 |
| Afdal | athlon 4200 dual core | 17:49 |
| Afdal | what all did you have to do to get FreeOrion setup on ubuntu tomreyn? | 17:49 |
| Afdal | I think I might give that a try today actually | 17:50 |
| tomreyn | Afdal: sorry, was just playtesting MG ;) | 18:37 |
| tomreyn | i just downloaded the ready-made test builds from sf.net | 18:37 |
| Afdal | oh that's all there is to it? | 18:38 |
| tomreyn | i guess i should try to build myself at some point, might provide better performance, but then those builds seems to be done on the same OS + version i use. | 18:38 |
| Afdal | You don't need to install any extra dependencies or stuff like that? | 18:38 |
| Afdal | Yeah if it's made for Ubuntu then it'll work the same for Xubuntu | 18:38 |
| Afdal | for me | 18:39 |
| tomreyn | hmm i don't really remember whether i needed to install extra repos | 18:39 |
| tomreyn | Afdal: you can always run ldd on the binary, it will list the dependencies | 18:45 |
| Afdal | oh yeah | 18:45 |
| tomreyn | but then there can also be package depdencies since those are debs | 18:46 |
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| ADIVI | [01.02.2014 06:09] <ADIVI> What is that: | 19:00 |
| ADIVI | [01.02.2014 06:09] <ADIVI> This message has been submitted successfully, but it will need to be approved by a moderator before it is publicly viewable. You will be notified when your post has been approved. | 19:00 |
| ADIVI | [01.02.2014 06:10] <ADIVI> I expect this Time a Reaction - I wont state that a real Explanation can get provided ... so WHAT IS THAT? | 19:00 |
| ADIVI | [01.02.2014 06:14] <ADIVI> I do this Time really expect -- wont kick that Item from list and it stalls alll othejr | 19:00 |
| ADIVI | [01.02.2014 06:19] <ADIVI> way of perhaps you noted -- we changed your password -- is INACCEPTABLE! add Stress of Words like Seven o Nine does | 19:00 |
| ADIVI | [01.02.2014 06:21] <ADIVI> secrete Move of my threads without notification is INACCEPTABLE!! did you already found .. they are now somewhere else - just search for ... NO! Enough is Enough! Answers! | 19:00 |
| STalKer-X | i would guess that too many people complained about your posts, so they are now moderated. | 19:20 |
| ADIVI | may you guess what they complained about? :) | 19:23 |
| ADIVI | werere | 19:23 |
| adrian_broher | GeofftheMedio, was the log4cpp dependency always there? | 19:26 |
| ADIVI | [01.02.2014 06:09] <ADIVI> What is that: | 19:27 |
| ADIVI | [01.02.2014 06:09] <ADIVI> This message has been submitted successfully, but it will need to be approved by a moderator before it is publicly viewable. You will be notified when your post has been approved. | 19:27 |
| ADIVI | [01.02.2014 06:10] <ADIVI> I expect this Time a Reaction - I wont state that a real Explanation can get provided ... so WHAT IS THAT? | 19:27 |
| ADIVI | [01.02.2014 06:14] <ADIVI> I do this Time really expect -- wont kick that Item from list and it stalls alll othejr | 19:27 |
| ADIVI | [01.02.2014 06:19] <ADIVI> way of perhaps you noted -- we changed your password -- is INACCEPTABLE! add Stress of Words like Seven o Nine does | 19:27 |
| ADIVI | [01.02.2014 06:21] <ADIVI> secrete Move of my threads without notification is INACCEPTABLE!! did you already found .. they are now somewhere else - just search for ... NO! Enough is Enough! Answers! | 19:27 |
| ADIVI | A-N-S-W-E-R-S...... | 19:28 |
| adrian_broher | <adrian_broher> stop shitposting. | 19:28 |
| adrian_broher | :3 | 19:28 |
| ADIVI | rating my posts to shit? is that your? | 19:29 |
| ADIVI | or that of oh the other? | 19:30 |
| ADIVI | is that your rating or that of other? | 19:32 |
| adrian_broher | Your messages are still incomprehensible. That's one reason why they are moderated. | 19:32 |
| ADIVI | uncomprehensible to whem? | 19:32 |
| ADIVI | due to what? | 19:33 |
| adrian_broher | To everybody who isn't you I would assume. | 19:34 |
| ADIVI | that generalization is wrong for sure sure as it exist more than one exception | 19:35 |
| ADIVI | you did not assume your self .. so you dont understand .. do you know about other who did not or guessed there totally? | 19:37 |
| adrian_broher | eleazar: "Look, i'm glad you are interested in our project, and i know learning a second language is hard, but you are communicating very poorly. Many of your sentences are incomprehensible. Often i can guess at a phrase, but it doesn't usually fit together to produce a meaningful whole." | 19:38 |
| adrian_broher | http://www.freeorion.org/forum/viewtopic.php?p=66704#p66704 | 19:38 |
| tpb | <http://ln-s.net/Aint> (at www.freeorion.org) | 19:38 |
| ADIVI | remind that post .. | 19:39 |
| adrian_broher | Bigjoe5: "...why?" (hint: he isn't asking something) | 19:40 |
| adrian_broher | http://www.freeorion.org/forum/viewtopic.php?p=67308#p67308 | 19:40 |
| tpb | <http://ln-s.net/Aio2> (at www.freeorion.org) | 19:40 |
| adrian_broher | shawndream: "Through the... interesting attempts at english it sounds like you are getting a bit too hung up on realism." | 19:41 |
| adrian_broher | http://www.freeorion.org/forum/viewtopic.php?p=66477#p66477 | 19:42 |
| tpb | <http://ln-s.net/Aio$> (at www.freeorion.org) | 19:42 |
| ADIVI | my interpretarion of why is that he did not understand the reasons and i did explain him to read shawndreams point and thus omit to write my arguements while pointed to the sufficient of shawndream | 19:45 |
| ADIVI | shawndream argued i would care tooo much on realism --- i pointed him to post where I explained implicitely that that spin is irreal | 19:47 |
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| ADIVI | is it that you think people can not understand realism? | 19:47 |
| adrian_broher | the topic itself is irrelevant, what I wanted to point out that your postings are incomprehensible for a lot of people. | 19:48 |
| ADIVI | in ca 12 Bill years milky way did rotate 29 times | 19:49 |
| ADIVI | when game time goes for a singe mill ... that is about scalle of single degree | 19:50 |
| adrian_broher | another point why you're moderated is your inability to respond to statements with a proper on-topic response. | 19:50 |
| adrian_broher | like now for example. | 19:50 |
| ADIVI | note i that I disproof the previous arguements | 19:51 |
| ADIVI | but one i am working at ... need confirmation as i have another interpretation of statement possible | 19:52 |
| ADIVI | if he is concerned about grammar etc or if he dont understand | 19:53 |
| ADIVI | what does moderation means in this context? grammar assistance services? | 19:53 |
| adrian_broher | publishing your forum posts or not after a review by a moderator. | 19:53 |
| ADIVI | previous matter not completed | 19:54 |
| ADIVI | no clear evidence of your estimation about other that they dont understand | 19:55 |
| ADIVI | one still wait for verification | 19:56 |
| ADIVI | or falsificatiob | 19:56 |
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| ADIVI | last failed was catched for moderation .. what was the causing event? | 20:01 |
| ADIVI | the one before was not ... is it that with math? | 20:02 |
| ADIVI | i gave shawndream meanings of mathmatical background .. | 20:03 |
| ADIVI | solid background | 20:03 |
| adrian_broher | noone cares because it isn't relevant for the topic. | 20:03 |
| ADIVI | oh it is | 20:03 |
| ADIVI | it is about complex numbers | 20:04 |
| ADIVI | now is OT a reason? | 20:04 |
| adrian_broher | Which are completely irrelevant for the gameplay. | 20:04 |
| ADIVI | FYI the transformation I showed applies complex multiplication | 20:05 |
| adrian_broher | Which is completely irrelevant for the gameplay. | 20:05 |
| ADIVI | says WHO? | 20:05 |
| ADIVI | shawndream? | 20:06 |
| ADIVI | is that the Way of saying IT'S OT? | 20:07 |
| adrian_broher | It is the way of saying "It's offtopic" after pointing it out serveral times by different users and contributors. | 20:08 |
| adrian_broher | *it was pointed out | 20:08 |
| ADIVI | now got 3 aspects .... people dont understand ... its about language and now about topic | 20:09 |
| ADIVI | is it that or is there a 4th unnoted aspect still unrevealed? | 20:10 |
| ADIVI | i just want to know i am not allowed to use magenta as font color | 20:10 |
| adrian_broher | I won't review every single post of you to tell you what went wrong. | 20:10 |
| ADIVI | i dont find a reason in your arguments ... which appear to me like griped out of the air to reason that | 20:11 |
| ADIVI | i dont get hint for causing event .. | 20:12 |
| planetmaker | ADIVI, if you amount of vocal in this channel is about the same in any forum or mailing list, I'd really not review any anymore | 20:14 |
| adrian_broher | What about posting completely useless and unrelated code? | 20:14 |
| planetmaker | you come accross as first-class troll tbh | 20:14 |
| ADIVI | so you dont know.. | 20:14 |
| adrian_broher | 'come accross' | 20:14 |
| adrian_broher | :3 | 20:14 |
| adrian_broher | s/come accross as/are/ | 20:15 |
| ADIVI | args all but one disproofed -- one is waiting ... reasons appear arbitrary and causing event still unrevealed | 20:15 |
| ADIVI | and one is: WHY? ... some would said: tricky | 20:16 |
| adrian_broher | That one is easy: I'm not willing to read your inane rambling when I expect more or less useful contributions. | 20:17 |
| ADIVI | _planetizer: may explain clearly if you consider me as troll or not as troll ? it seems to me that.... | 20:17 |
| planetmaker | I do consider you one. If not you got other serious issues | 20:18 |
| planetmaker | like attention-craving | 20:18 |
| ADIVI | due to i refuse to proof that kuiper is mercury respecting scientific conventions and explained with other words I dont care about noble honors? | 20:19 |
| ADIVI | oh i dont want to get that award for any of ... many things i made --- pay me attention! | 20:20 |
| ADIVI | i would like to ask gödel what thinks about that all ... he is really abstract | 20:21 |
| ADIVI | nice andecdote .. after did procedere to usian he was asked what he thought about its content .. answer was 2h .. doubtless correct - at least i wont expect a logical error from him | 20:23 |
| Afdal | Hey planetmaker, do you work on FreeOrion in addition to OpenTTD? | 20:24 |
| Afdal | Or are you just chillin' in here | 20:25 |
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| planetmaker | I'm afraid I'm just chillin' here | 20:25 |
| Afdal | aww | 20:25 |
| Afdal | well keep up the good work conductor sir | 20:25 |
| planetmaker | Time is too limited to do everything which would be interesting :) | 20:25 |
| planetmaker | ty | 20:26 |
| adrian_broher | oh, you're a openttd contributor? | 20:26 |
| planetmaker | yeah | 20:26 |
| adrian_broher | thanks for providing many entertaining hours of gameplay. | 20:26 |
| ADIVI | THAT is still not answered sufficiently: | 20:27 |
| ADIVI | [01.02.2014 11:27] <ADIVI> [01.02.2014 06:09] <ADIVI> What is that: | 20:27 |
| ADIVI | [01.02.2014 11:27] <ADIVI> [01.02.2014 06:09] <ADIVI> This message has been submitted successfully, but it will need to be approved by a moderator before it is publicly viewable. You will be notified when your post has been approved. | 20:27 |
| ADIVI | [01.02.2014 11:27] <ADIVI> [01.02.2014 06:10] <ADIVI> I expect this Time a Reaction - I wont state that a real Explanation can get provided ... so WHAT IS THAT? | 20:27 |
| ADIVI | [01.02.2014 11:27] <ADIVI> [01.02.2014 06:14] <ADIVI> I do this Time really expect -- wont kick that Item from list and it stalls alll othejr | 20:27 |
| ADIVI | [01.02.2014 11:27] <ADIVI> [01.02.2014 06:19] <ADIVI> way of perhaps you noted -- we changed your password -- is INACCEPTABLE! add Stress of Words like Seven o Nine does | 20:27 |
| ADIVI | [01.02.2014 11:27] <ADIVI> [01.02.2014 06:21] <ADIVI> secrete Move of my threads without notification is INACCEPTABLE!! did you already found .. they are now somewhere else - just search for ... NO! Enough is Enough! Answers! | 20:27 |
| Afdal | oh god it's happening again | 20:27 |
| ADIVI | [01.02.2014 11:27] <ADIVI> [01.02.2014 06:09] <ADIVI> What is that: | 20:27 |
| ADIVI | [01.02.2014 11:27] <ADIVI> [01.02.2014 06:09] <ADIVI> This message has been submitted successfully, but it will need to be approved by a moderator before it is publicly viewable. You will be notified when your post has been approved. | 20:27 |
| ADIVI | [01.02.2014 11:27] <ADIVI> [01.02.2014 06:10] <ADIVI> I expect this Time a Reaction - I wont state that a real Explanation can get provided ... so WHAT IS THAT? | 20:27 |
| ADIVI | [01.02.2014 11:27] <ADIVI> [01.02.2014 06:14] <ADIVI> I do this Time really expect -- wont kick that Item from list and it stalls alll othejr | 20:27 |
| ADIVI | [01.02.2014 11:27] <ADIVI> [01.02.2014 06:19] <ADIVI> way of perhaps you noted -- we changed your password -- is INACCEPTABLE! add Stress of Words like Seven o Nine does | 20:27 |
| ADIVI | [01.02.2014 11:27] <ADIVI> [01.02.2014 06:21] <ADIVI> secrete Move of my threads without notification is INACCEPTABLE!! did you already found .. they are now somewhere else - just search for ... NO! Enough is Enough! Answers! | 20:27 |
| ADIVI | [01.02.2014 11:27] <ADIVI> [01.02.2014 06:09] <ADIVI> What is that: | 20:27 |
| ADIVI | [01.02.2014 11:27] <ADIVI> [01.02.2014 06:09] <ADIVI> This message has been submitted successfully, but it will need to be approved by a moderator before it is publicly viewable. You will be notified when your post has been approved. | 20:27 |
| ADIVI | [01.02.2014 11:27] <ADIVI> [01.02.2014 06:10] <ADIVI> I expect this Time a Reaction - I wont state that a real Explanation can get provided ... so WHAT IS THAT? | 20:27 |
| ADIVI | [01.02.2014 11:27] <ADIVI> [01.02.2014 06:14] <ADIVI> I do this Time really expect -- wont kick that Item from list and it stalls alll othejr | 20:27 |
| ADIVI | [01.02.2014 11:27] <ADIVI> [01.02.2014 06:19] <ADIVI> way of perhaps you noted -- we changed your password -- is INACCEPTABLE! add Stress of Words like Seven o Nine does | 20:27 |
| ADIVI | [01.02.2014 11:27] <ADIVI> [01.02.2014 06:21] <ADIVI> secrete Move of my threads without notification is INACCEPTABLE!! did you already found .. they are now somewhere else - just search for ... NO! Enough is Enough! Answers! | 20:27 |
| *** ChanServ sets mode: +o GeofftheMedio | 20:27 | |
| ADIVI | sorry for multi post | 20:27 |
| adrian_broher | oh doge, here comes the hammer… | 20:28 |
| *** GeofftheMedio sets mode: +b *!*@95-91-224-135-dynip.superkabel.de | 20:28 | |
| Afdal | -_- | 20:28 |
| GeofftheMedio | having never had to do that before, does it appear to have functioned correctly? | 20:31 |
| adrian_broher | you need to kick him if you want him to leave the channel | 20:31 |
| adrian_broher | banning only prevents him to enter the channel | 20:32 |
| GeofftheMedio | hmm | 20:32 |
| Sector | /kick nick | 20:33 |
| GeofftheMedio | I figured the ban would just silence? | 20:33 |
| GeofftheMedio | don't care if he lurks... | 20:33 |
| planetmaker | I think it does | 20:33 |
| planetmaker | and prevents re-entry | 20:34 |
| Afdal | I don't think you can re-join | 20:34 |
| GeofftheMedio | well that's fine then | 20:34 |
| Afdal | yeah | 20:34 |
| GeofftheMedio | 24 hours or so I'll unban, assuming I remember | 20:34 |
| Afdal | I don't think there is a true mute function in IRC sadly | 20:34 |
| Sector | There is a mode that will just silence. | 20:34 |
| planetmaker | not? dunno here, but on oftc we do have | 20:34 |
| planetmaker | +q | 20:34 |
| Afdal | oh | 20:35 |
| Sector | Yup, same here. Just replace the +b. | 20:35 |
| adrian_broher | Afdal, iirc you can set the channel to moderated and give the people voice or something like that. | 20:35 |
| planetmaker | that's a pain, though, adrian_broher | 20:35 |
| Afdal | guess it depends on the network | 20:35 |
| Sector | Yup, that would be another option. Does require more management though. | 20:35 |
| GeofftheMedio | which I am disinclined to do | 20:35 |
| adrian_broher | planetmaker, well maybe, I don't moderate channels so I'm clueless. | 20:36 |
| planetmaker | it stops occasional pass-by people to say anything. not worth the trouble | 20:36 |
| planetmaker | as voice needs registration with services | 20:36 |
| Afdal | I moderate a couple channels but I am still an IRC neophyte | 20:36 |
| planetmaker | so am I :) | 20:36 |
| STalKer-X | freenode has +q | 20:36 |
| Sector | Uh huh. | 20:37 |
| planetmaker | all I usually use is our bot to mute, kick or kban | 20:37 |
| * Sector has channel operator for four channels on here and IRC Operator on another network... | 20:38 | |
| adrian_broher | GeofftheMedio, now that you're here: do you know how long the log4cpp dependency did exists and why we choose to use this library? | 20:38 |
| GeofftheMedio | Since 2004 at least | 20:43 |
| planetmaker | that's a decent time :) | 20:43 |
| GeofftheMedio | Dunno why specifically... it was probably a decent functional logging library that didn't need to be coded from scratch | 20:43 |
| GeofftheMedio | Since september 2003 at least | 20:45 |
| GeofftheMedio | probably july 2003 | 20:46 |
| adrian_broher | well, okay. | 20:48 |
| GeofftheMedio | possibly earlier... forum doesn't go back much past that | 20:48 |
| GeofftheMedio | and searching the code history is klunky as files have moved about | 20:48 |
| adrian_broher | Ogre didn't had its logging facility at this time (heck, did it even exist?). | 20:50 |
| GeofftheMedio | even if it did, it wasn't used in FO at first | 20:50 |
| GeofftheMedio | ogre integration happened in 2009 | 20:51 |
| adrian_broher | Okay. | 20:54 |
| adrian_broher | And another question: does the current windows sdk already contain boost signals2? | 20:55 |
| adrian_broher | It is a header only library. | 20:55 |
| GeofftheMedio | if it's in whatever boost version is in the SDK | 20:56 |
| GeofftheMedio | yes | 20:56 |
| adrian_broher | did you put the whole boost release in the sdk? | 20:56 |
| GeofftheMedio | all the headers | 20:56 |
| GeofftheMedio | just the required libraries / dlls | 20:56 |
| adrian_broher | then it should be there. | 20:56 |
| adrian_broher | nice. | 20:56 |
| GeofftheMedio | hence my "yes" | 20:56 |
| GeofftheMedio | need to update the SDK soon anyway... | 20:57 |
| GeofftheMedio | get rid of alut | 20:57 |
| GeofftheMedio | add the extra boost libraries needed for compressed text streams | 20:57 |
| GeofftheMedio | maybe update the ogre version compatibility | 20:57 |
| GeofftheMedio | maybe update the boost version as well | 20:57 |
| adrian_broher | don't forget http://www.freeorion.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=8532 then | 20:57 |
| adrian_broher | :) | 20:57 |
| tpb | <http://ln-s.net/Air8> (at www.freeorion.org) | 20:57 |
| GeofftheMedio | kind of a pain to do all that though, as it requires recompling a bunch of the dependencies that all interdepent | 20:57 |
| GeofftheMedio | indeed | 20:58 |
| GeofftheMedio | I'm not keen on doing that before a release though | 20:58 |
| GeofftheMedio | adding a few boost libraries... OK | 20:58 |
| GeofftheMedio | removing ALUT, ok | 20:58 |
| GeofftheMedio | recompling boost and ogre and such... not so much | 20:59 |
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| adrian_broher | does Vezzra maintain the mac sdk on his own? | 21:06 |
| GeofftheMedio | I think so | 21:19 |
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| Nagilum_ | there is a mute mode | 22:30 |
| Nagilum_ | you set the channel to moderated and then only ppl with op or +v can talk | 22:30 |
| GeofftheMedio | as above, don't want to deal with that | 22:31 |
| GeofftheMedio | and don't need to | 22:32 |
| Nagilum_ | k | 22:32 |
| Sector | Right, we covered that and using +q on a ban for just a particular user. | 22:37 |
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| STalKer-X | he has a dynamic ip anyway | 22:52 |
| STalKer-X | so tomorrow he won't be banned anymore :) | 22:52 |
| Nagilum_ | if need be there can be wildcards in the ban | 22:53 |
| STalKer-X | it's intended as temporary anyway :D | 22:54 |
| STalKer-X | so no need to fool around :) | 22:54 |
| Nagilum_ | yep | 22:57 |
| Sector | So far at least... | 22:59 |
| tomreyn | doh, thats plenty... "To build GG and FreeOrion, expect up to 45 minutes of a Core i5 system, or over an hour on a Core2 Duo system. " | 23:02 |
| Sector | Ah, what's a little building? | 23:02 |
| Nagilum_ | good things will come.. | 23:03 |
| tomreyn | overnight | 23:05 |
| tomreyn | http://www.freeorion.org/index.php/Compile says python >= 2.7, http://www.freeorion.org/index.php/Compile_In_Linux says python2.6-dev on "Ubuntu (Maverick and Lucid)" | 23:10 |
| tpb | <http://ln-s.net/2hix> (at www.freeorion.org) | 23:10 |
| tomreyn | i assume the latter is outdated (maverick is unsupported, lucid, too, i think) | 23:11 |
| Nagilum_ | yup | 23:14 |
| Nagilum_ | I'm just trying to build on precise and thats already old | 23:15 |
| tomreyn | well it's currently still the latest LTS release | 23:18 |
| tomreyn | can you help me with this? http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=Dsq6EfkS | 23:26 |
| tomreyn | install TARGETS given no LIBRARY DESTINATION for shared library target | 23:26 |
| tomreyn | ubuntu 13.10 x86_64 | 23:28 |
| Nagilum_ | why not use http://sourceforge.net/projects/freeorion/files/FreeOrion/Test/Ubuntu/13.10_Saucy_Salamander/ | 23:28 |
| tpb | <http://ln-s.net/AixV> (at sourceforge.net) | 23:28 |
| tomreyn | because i want to learn how much effort it takes to build myself | 23:29 |
| tomreyn | those are the builds i used so far, but everyone can install binary packages | 23:29 |
| Nagilum_ | you can grab the source from http://www.nagilum.org/repo/pool/saucy/f/freeorion/ and use dpkg-buildpackage or pbuilder | 23:30 |
| tpb | <http://ln-s.net/AixZ> (at www.nagilum.org) | 23:30 |
| tomreyn | svn is at r6792 | 23:31 |
| Nagilum_ | 6795 | 23:32 |
| tomreyn | i appreciate your support in making things easier for me, but shouldn't it be easy to build an application from the source tree in the latest version? | 23:33 |
| tomreyn | s/version/revision/ | 23:33 |
| Nagilum_ | it usually is | 23:33 |
| Nagilum_ | why all the "-DBUILD_TUTORIALS=off -DBUILD_OGRE_DRIVER=ON -DBUILD_OGRE_OIS_PLUGIN=ON" stuff? | 23:33 |
| tomreyn | because that's what it says on the freeorion wiki in the compile instructions | 23:34 |
| Nagilum_ | I see, try without | 23:34 |
| GeofftheMedio | people have been reworking the cmake scripts recently... it's possible the wiki is out of date | 23:35 |
| tomreyn | same result with "cmake ." after deleting CMakeCache.txt | 23:36 |
| Nagilum_ | I can give you 6795 builds for quantal? :> | 23:37 |
| tomreyn | :) thanks (but no thanks) | 23:37 |
| Nagilum_ | looks like I need to build libbullet for 12.04, will do that tomorrow, time to sleep | 23:38 |
| GeofftheMedio | there were some changes to CMakeLists.txt recently... | 23:38 |
| GeofftheMedio | might be not working correctly? | 23:38 |
| Nagilum_ | works for me | 23:39 |
| GeofftheMedio | need adrian_broher to comment... | 23:39 |
| tomreyn | oh look someone called Nagilum_ (just without the trailing underscore) ran into the same situation as me http://www.freeorion.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=8556 | 23:40 |
| tpb | <http://ln-s.net/Aixv> (at www.freeorion.org) | 23:40 |
| tomreyn | did i bring up coverity scan, yet? | 23:49 |
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