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| GeofftheMedio | Sheltem: maybe | 01:43 |
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| Sheltem | ... | 01:43 |
| Sheltem | may I wait 6 hours to answe? | 01:44 |
| GeofftheMedio | depends | 01:44 |
| Sheltem | once outposts serve some purpose | 01:46 |
| Sheltem | like minor production/research | 01:47 |
| GeofftheMedio | still do. at the least, they extend supply lines | 01:47 |
| Sheltem | now, they do nothing | 01:47 |
| GeofftheMedio | enemies can't colonize your outposts without invading first | 01:47 |
| Sheltem | and it somehow looks I cant bomb away hostile outposts | 01:47 |
| GeofftheMedio | I think they also have some uses for getting bonuses from some techs, possibly related to neutronium or asteroids or similar | 01:48 |
| Sheltem | do I need troops for invasion or colonists? | 01:48 |
| GeofftheMedio | you can't bomb them "away"... you can bombard their shields and construction down | 01:48 |
| GeofftheMedio | troops | 01:48 |
| GeofftheMedio | you can colonize your own outposts with colony ships | 01:48 |
| Sheltem | hm, Im sure I had 2 troops transporters in orbit an there was no option for grounding them | 01:48 |
| GeofftheMedio | need to knock out shields first | 01:49 |
| GeofftheMedio | and have adequat edetection | 01:49 |
| Sheltem | detection? | 01:49 |
| GeofftheMedio | empire detection strength | 01:49 |
| GeofftheMedio | research some intelligence techs | 01:49 |
| Sheltem | I need to "see" the outpost which is harrassing my own colony every turn? | 01:50 |
| GeofftheMedio | being able to know a planet is present isn't the same as being able to see an outpost on it and be able to attack its defenses | 01:50 |
| Sheltem | obviously | 01:50 |
| Sheltem | although this sounds a bit wired | 01:51 |
| GeofftheMedio | idea is to be able to have hidden colonies | 01:51 |
| Sheltem | hard to point out bugs if you complicate game mechanics :P | 01:51 |
| Sheltem | right | 01:51 |
| GeofftheMedio | all the details are worked out yet | 01:51 |
| Sheltem | can outpost still terraform or do I need that special encapsulation technology to terraform hostile planets? | 01:52 |
| GeofftheMedio | not sure | 01:52 |
| Sheltem | btw, Im pretty sure I chose "no" monsters on startup and there are still dyson forests, sentinels and worst snowflakes around | 01:53 |
| GeofftheMedio | that option controls most mosters, but specials add some independently | 01:54 |
| GeofftheMedio | or some native species | 01:54 |
| Sheltem | ... | 01:54 |
| Sheltem | why did you implement snowflakes? | 01:55 |
| Sheltem | they are annoying | 01:55 |
| Sheltem | if not dangerous | 01:55 |
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| Sheltem | why where snowflakes implemented, geoff? | 02:13 |
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| Nagilum_ | Sheltem: someone watched Star Trek | 02:37 |
| Nagilum_ | http://en.memory-alpha.org/wiki/Crystalline_Entity | 02:38 |
| tpb | <http://ln-s.net/+uPX> (at en.memory-alpha.org) | 02:38 |
| GeofftheMedio | new linux build any time soon nagilum_? | 02:42 |
| Nagilum_ | yep! | 02:43 |
| Nagilum_ | another build just finished | 02:43 |
| GeofftheMedio | koo | 02:43 |
| Nagilum_ | Arch had some issues due to a boost update.. | 02:43 |
| GeofftheMedio | for the ubuntu repository thing... is that binaries you make also, or just a premade auto build thing? | 02:44 |
| Nagilum_ | these debs are based on the same binaries | 02:44 |
| GeofftheMedio | and do you have to host that yourself, or can it be put on sourceforge as well? | 02:44 |
| Nagilum_ | there are some symlinks in the repo directory | 02:45 |
| Nagilum_ | not sure what kind of interfaces you have towards SF | 02:45 |
| GeofftheMedio | just upload files | 02:45 |
| GeofftheMedio | if you can put the symlinks into a tar or somesuch | 02:45 |
| Nagilum_ | it would have to be the whole directory structure | 02:45 |
| GeofftheMedio | it could be a tar of a tirectory? | 02:46 |
| Nagilum_ | only if that would get extracted on SF | 02:46 |
| GeofftheMedio | it would downloaded and extracted by the user | 02:46 |
| Nagilum_ | http://www.nagilum.org/repo/ directory browsing is enabled | 02:46 |
| GeofftheMedio | kept packaged on sf | 02:46 |
| tpb | Title: Index of /repo (at www.nagilum.org) | 02:46 |
| GeofftheMedio | so they download one file | 02:46 |
| Nagilum_ | that would not be a repo | 02:47 |
| Nagilum_ | the idea is that you add the repo to your /etc/apt/sources.d/ and then updates come in automagically | 02:48 |
| GeofftheMedio | and the user can't unzip the repo directory structure locally? | 02:49 |
| Nagilum_ | that would be useless, it would be simpler for the user to download the .deb and then install that | 02:49 |
| GeofftheMedio | is doing that a problem? (the .deb download) | 02:50 |
| Nagilum_ | no | 02:50 |
| Nagilum_ | its what the update tools do.. | 02:50 |
| GeofftheMedio | so we can/should put the .deb on sourceforge? | 02:50 |
| Nagilum_ | yes | 02:50 |
| GeofftheMedio | ok, that's what I wanted to know | 02:50 |
| Nagilum_ | k | 02:50 |
| Nagilum_ | amd64.deb is ready, now building i386 | 02:54 |
| GeofftheMedio | some net issues tonight, so may not grab them immediately | 02:55 |
| Nagilum_ | once both are done I do the signing & uploading | 02:55 |
| Nagilum_ | no problem | 02:55 |
| GeofftheMedio | do you have sourceforge upload access? | 02:55 |
| Nagilum_ | no | 02:55 |
| Nagilum_ | ppl who added my repo will get the updated version automatically :) | 02:56 |
| GeofftheMedio | may not want to do that since save compat\ibility breaks occasionally | 02:57 |
| Nagilum_ | true, well you typically still get to say yes before you update anything | 02:58 |
| * Nagilum_ dreams of an ssd while he watches pacstrap setting up the build root | 03:03 | |
| GeofftheMedio | i'm dreaming of an interne connection that can do something besides irc intermittantly | 03:05 |
| GeofftheMedio | internet | 03:05 |
| Nagilum_ | what kinda show string connection do you have there? ;) | 03:06 |
| Nagilum_ | s/show/shoe/ | 03:06 |
| GeofftheMedio | whatever the landlords have... runs through a linksys router i have user but not admin access to | 03:11 |
| Nagilum_ | hmm, build failed, it didn't take my -lpthread patch :-/ , retrying differently.. | 03:21 |
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| Nagilum_ | http://pastebin.com/YARQB8Fc | 11:13 |
| tpb | Title: FO error - Pastebin.com (at pastebin.com) | 11:13 |
| Nagilum_ | strange..I don't see that on amd64 | 11:13 |
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| GeofftheMedio | nagilum_: fid you post links to files for the latest linux builds on th forums? | 18:50 |
| GeofftheMedio | your pastebin build error doesn't match what I have in btMatrix3x3.h at the indicated line... no temP variable used there. | 18:54 |
| Nagilum_ | weird | 18:56 |
| GeofftheMedio | different versions of bullet maybe? | 18:58 |
| Nagilum_ | bullet 2.81 | 18:59 |
| Nagilum_ | I'll try it later again, in the evening | 19:00 |
| Nagilum_ | I'm currently in Houston.. | 19:00 |
| GeofftheMedio | were things uploaded that I could be copying over to sourcefoge? | 19:14 |
| GeofftheMedio | I'll infer that houston's not the usual location... | 19:14 |
| Nagilum_ | the .deb files are always in http://www.nagilum.org/repo/pool/main/f/freeorion/ | 19:29 |
| tpb | <http://ln-s.net/+uhc> (at www.nagilum.org) | 19:29 |
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