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| Morphy | greetings | 13:10 |
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| GeofftheMedio | ... | 13:11 |
| Morphy | you in charge of fo? | 13:12 |
| GeofftheMedio | depends on your definition of "in charge" | 13:12 |
| Morphy | good enough | 13:12 |
| Morphy | since I don't have any money I can offer you my very imaginative writing skills and some work initiative so long as its not code related | 13:13 |
| Morphy | that is if you are looking for people with no coding or graphical skills | 13:15 |
| GeofftheMedio | there's not a huge amount of stuff of that sort, but you can start here: http://freeorion.org/index.php/How_to_Help | 13:16 |
| tpb | Title: How to Help - FreeOrionWiki (at freeorion.org) | 13:16 |
| GeofftheMedio | or have a look over the forums | 13:17 |
| Morphy | yes, i just thought i drop by here first | 13:20 |
| Morphy | i saw your mission statement but i wanted to get first person status intro | 13:21 |
| GeofftheMedio | "status intro" ? | 13:22 |
| Morphy | where is the project at, where is it going and whats your sense of it | 13:22 |
| Morphy | you know the way you introduce somebody to something | 13:23 |
| Morphy | I can get involved in more than sorting tasks and lore | 13:23 |
| Morphy | and I have some ideas that can supercharge your productive output | 13:24 |
| GeofftheMedio | the roadmap fairly well explains what's done and what's (roughly) planned | 13:24 |
| GeofftheMedio | http://freeorion.org/index.php/Roadmap | 13:24 |
| tpb | Title: Roadmap - FreeOrionWiki (at freeorion.org) | 13:24 |
| Morphy | thats the details | 13:24 |
| GeofftheMedio | not really... | 13:24 |
| Morphy | i want a few brief sentences in general | 13:25 |
| GeofftheMedio | ok... FO is somewhat playable, but unbalanced and incomplete. | 13:25 |
| Morphy | whats your sense of the future of the project | 13:26 |
| GeofftheMedio | that question is too vague... I don't know what you want to know... | 13:26 |
| Morphy | I'm a generalist, i'm good with basic direction... like "we've done well, and still are doing well" "It started slow, its picking up speed a bit" | 13:27 |
| Morphy | "we are getting more or less support" | 13:28 |
| GeofftheMedio | things are going slowly, and have been going slowly for a long time, and will probably continue going slowly | 13:28 |
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| Morphy | most devs went to 3d because thats what was supposed to be expecte do them | 15:50 |
| Morphy | damn that irc could really use spellecheck | 15:50 |
| Morphy | i don't get why anyone would sacrifice so much content for often badly designed rotating figures | 15:51 |
| Morphy | but maybe i love games too much | 15:51 |
| Morphy | and played so many | 15:51 |
| GeofftheMedio | sprite artists are perhaps harder to come by than 3d modellers? | 15:52 |
| Morphy | i doubt it, anybody that could lay the heavy work to make a full 3d object to look good, could adjust his mindset to such work | 15:54 |
| Morphy | at least its my impression that 2d is less time consuming | 15:55 |
| Morphy | they all produce images any way | 15:55 |
| Morphy | 3d-ers make a graphic and fold it on a 3d model | 15:56 |
| Morphy | making all the curves work should be much more work than making fine simple images with designed apperance depth | 15:57 |
| Morphy | depth is all about light and that not too difficult for those who really like doing graphics | 15:57 |
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| Morphy | we've all seen awesome results with graphics of very modest construction material... barely a few textures, a few shades few colors. and yet it look just as a live as something with a 1000 colors, i think its more of a artist mindset than a technicality | 16:00 |
| GeofftheMedio | maybe it has something to do with higher resolutions... | 16:00 |
| GeofftheMedio | tiny 2d sprites looked fine at 320x200 | 16:01 |
| GeofftheMedio | but it doesn't work so well at 1920x1080 | 16:01 |
| Morphy | sure 3d is awesome when done well, but most people don't have the budget or the creativity not to cripple the game in their game with 3d | 16:01 |
| Morphy | yeah right | 16:01 |
| Morphy | go check out terraria | 16:01 |
| Morphy | and tell me that again | 16:01 |
| Morphy | or play icewind dale | 16:02 |
| Morphy | or baldurs gate which is how old now | 16:02 |
| Morphy | yeah mooII is not as impressive as it used to be | 16:02 |
| Morphy | but those small hero paintings | 16:02 |
| Morphy | are still competitive with most games today | 16:02 |
| Morphy | And if you re-work the ships with updated color palletes and light adjustments they could match most things on the market today | 16:03 |
| Morphy | and I bet you, those hero portraits take at least 1/10 effort compared to all the useless 3d models we've looked at over the years | 16:04 |
| Morphy | hand crafted static graphics have always trumped most 3d projects | 16:05 |
| Morphy | the recent indie trend shows much in how inspiring a few well placed concepts can be | 16:06 |
| Morphy | and most of them are low tech graphics and otherwise | 16:06 |
| Morphy | a perfect example of would be the command and conquer franchise | 16:07 |
| Morphy | when you start playing red alert or tiberian sun | 16:07 |
| Morphy | the older ones | 16:07 |
| Morphy | the atmosphere is just grabbing | 16:08 |
| Morphy | and the game is badly designed | 16:08 |
| GeofftheMedio | bit of nostalgia may be coming into play there | 16:08 |
| GeofftheMedio | 3D isn't always useless... fixed camera angles from sprites are limiting | 16:08 |
| GeofftheMedio | though not everything needs 3D, certainly | 16:09 |
| Morphy | ah i'm not opposed to it | 16:09 |
| Morphy | but its weird | 16:09 |
| Morphy | devs are funny about it | 16:09 |
| Morphy | all in 3d or no 3d | 16:09 |
| Morphy | its like almost none of them can hand pick situations where it would empower things | 16:09 |
| Morphy | and i totally disliked star craft | 16:10 |
| Morphy | and nobody can deny 2d has done wonders for them | 16:11 |
| GeofftheMedio | if you've already got an office full of 3D people.... | 16:11 |
| Morphy | they kept the look even now | 16:11 |
| Morphy | yes well thats the social / management aspect | 16:12 |
| Morphy | tough homeworld 2 was just gorgeous | 16:15 |
| Morphy | I havent seen anyone do better than them in that department | 16:16 |
| Morphy | except maybe Eve online but still not a substitute | 16:16 |
| Morphy | considering how lite Homeworld 2 is their engine was just amazing | 16:17 |
| Morphy | I can only imagine what it would like if they buffed it up to speed | 16:17 |
| Morphy | to date it has tons of modding activity on account of its excelence | 16:18 |
| Morphy | you can see people crafting all kinds of ships they loved, from anywhere | 16:18 |
| Morphy | have you seen space rangers 2? | 16:19 |
| GeofftheMedio | no | 16:23 |
| Morphy | you should at least see a good quality vid if not play it | 16:25 |
| Morphy | its probably the best space thing since moo2 - though the core design is not that close | 16:25 |
| Morphy | its probably 3d at its finest that I've seen to date | 16:26 |
| Morphy | 2d | 16:26 |
| Morphy | i mean (; | 16:26 |
| Morphy | you havent heard of it because the russians pretty much sucked at marketing it | 16:28 |
| Morphy | More people would have heard about it if they did at least as good as handing out leaflets at gaming conventions | 16:28 |
| GeofftheMedio | I'm not particularly easily reached by marketing materials | 16:30 |
| Morphy | they barely broke out the news it exists | 16:30 |
| Morphy | refferential advertisement is their best friend | 16:30 |
| Morphy | the people who loved it probably spread it 10 times more than the publishers | 16:31 |
| Morphy | and they did a swell job with Kings Bounty | 16:31 |
| Morphy | probably the best 2d + 3d mix i've seen over the years | 16:32 |
| Morphy | how are you music wise, is anyone roaming around for royalty free tunes you can use? | 16:45 |
| Morphy | tough i see the forum has voulunteers | 16:47 |
| GeofftheMedio | music's not really a priority | 16:48 |
| GeofftheMedio | there are a few submissions sitting around on the forums | 16:49 |
| GeofftheMedio | but not much is being done with them yet | 16:49 |
| Morphy | not like there is much for the none tech people to do than look for nicities, for whenever you shall use them | 16:49 |
| GeofftheMedio | you lost me | 16:51 |
| Morphy | as you said you have little work for those who can't code or design graphics | 16:51 |
| GeofftheMedio | yes, but I don't know what "not like there is much for the none tech people to do than look for nicities, for whenever you shall use them" means | 16:53 |
| Morphy | royalty free stuff of all variety | 16:54 |
| Morphy | you don't need to handcraft everything | 16:54 |
| Morphy | and you'll have to get into details at some point | 16:54 |
| GeofftheMedio | still don't know what the quote meant, but there are various free sound packages available | 16:56 |
| GeofftheMedio | and some submitted sounds for FO | 16:56 |
| GeofftheMedio | but not much use for either at presetn | 16:56 |
| Morphy | it meant the two peraphrases i used to describe it alternatively (: | 16:58 |
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