Monday, 2008-01-07

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mithrooh shiny00:25
mithrox86 processor? it seems to be running windows00:26
nashYeah, it's the windows version00:26
nashThat ones takes ~15 minutes to boot BTW...00:26
nashThere are some hardware issues one could say00:27
mithronash: oh, it's windows vista - 15 minutes is probably fast ;)00:28
nashmithro: Oh no... this is slow for vista, trust me00:28
nashThe linux version is slow too00:28
mithrono easy work-a-rounds?00:28
nashAsk me at LCA ;-)00:30
nashmithro: When the channel isn't logged ;-)00:30
mithroI control the logging server ;)00:38
nashmithro: Even worse!00:38
* mithro changes nash's comments so that he loves the splash screen :P00:38
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mithroI just spent the last 5 hours fighting with windows :(00:40
nashI spent hte last 3 months fighting with a a windows developer00:43
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CIA-11midorikid libtpproto-cpp * rd90fc60a3da6 /test/ (nettest.cpp simpletest.cpp):00:55
CIA-11Fix compilation of tests.00:55
CIA-11The logger interface was changed on commit 7135499da but the tests weren't updated.00:55
CIA-11simpletest now works, but nettest still chokes on fleets from the demo server.00:55
CIA-11llnz libtpproto-cpp * r79ad9b88cab6 /tpproto/message.cpp: Merge with git+ssh://[email protected]/var/lib/git/libtpproto-cpp.git00:55
CIA-11midorikid documents * rfb66843de3d7 /protocol/protocol.xml: Changed protocol version to TP0401:00
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midorikidHey!  Thanks, CIA-11.01:20
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llnzhehe01:38
llnzcia-11 is a bot that reports commits to the git repos01:38
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mithro_#/msg nickserv ghost mithro fnmithropeanut02:37
mithro_opps02:38
mithro_dang02:38
mithro_time to change my password02:38
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llnzhehehe02:48
llnzoh dear02:48
mithrooh dear?03:06
llnzrevealing your password03:08
mithroahhh03:10
mithroit's changed now03:12
CIA-11llnz libtpproto-cpp * r268168c4f3c2 /test/nettest.sh: Set correct permission on test script04:34
CIA-11llnz libtpproto-cpp * ra28ddec0ef9d /tpproto/buffer.cpp:04:52
CIA-11Allow strings to be empty, don't fail so hashly.04:52
CIA-11This needs to be improved; it leaks memory, and should use std::string (which04:52
CIA-11would solve the first problem too). On my todo list.04:52
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llnzlater all06:39
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remaximhi11:35
remaximmerry christmas11:35
remaxim*russian christmas ;)11:51
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remaximhi12:47
JLPahoy *13:09
remaximhi JLP... could you do me a favour?13:11
JLPremaxim: of course13:12
remaximcould you upload some stuff by me to the media repository?13:13
* JLP just woke up, 19h here, slept all day, was tired becazse of all KDE 4.0.0 release work13:13
remaximJLP, when's the release?13:14
JLPremaxim: yes i think i can do it13:14
remaximthanks13:14
JLPremaxim: on 11th13:14
remaximgreat :)13:14
remaximmaybe I ll come back to KDE ...13:14
JLPremaxim: maybe, 4.0.0 is not the very best version to try t return, it is the very first one after a large rewrite, a port from Qt3 to Qt 4, with lts of new technology, so it has a lot of rough edhes still13:15
JLPremaxim: but if you are prepared to file a bug report when you find something that bothers you, then it would be nice13:16
remaximnope probably not.... but it's still good to try out a little bit13:17
remaximI had the beta running... I was very disappointed by plasma (which almost didn't work) and the new "start button" (sorry)13:18
JLPoh the kickoff button, i like it a lot, i actually patched sources in gentoo to get it from opensuse :)13:19
remaximyes ... kickoff button... thx13:20
JLPbut there is a plasmoid which gives you the old style menu13:20
remaximI dunno... I didn't like it... but that's probably a thing you have to get used to13:20
JLPyup, it definitely is something to get used to, you usually have mouse moves learned in a way you don't even think about when you want to target something in the menu13:21
JLPso there sure is some relearning needed to get back to that13:22
remaximJLP, could you upload everything that is in that folder: http://www.box.net/shared/lbqx6709eq13:23
tpbTitle: Box.net - Free Online File Storage, Internet File Sharing, Online Storage, Access Documents & Files Anywhere, Backup Data, Send Files (at www.box.net)13:23
remaximplease ;)13:23
remaximyou don't have to download everything once again, if you already have some of it13:23
remaximI think you didn't change any of my works ;)13:24
JLPremaxim: will do13:24
remaximthanks13:24
remaximbut it still has no license ... I mean ... there is no gpl text in the same folder saying that it's all gpl work, is it?13:25
JLPdamn is it just me or i don't see the media folder on git13:28
remaximJLP, there should be some... I remember there had been some images and the calendar in there13:30
JLPoh it's only on svn13:30
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remaximok... I have to go now, bye13:51
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remaximhi14:59
remaximJLP, did you already upload it?14:59
JLPremaxim: not yet, have some other uni work to do before that15:04
remaximok, that's more important anyway...15:04
remaximit would be great if you could give me a link when you're ready15:05
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remaximbye15:20
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mithromorning people18:14
mithrohrm, no nash this morning18:14
mithro~seen JLP18:14
tpbmithro: JLP was last seen in #tp 3 hours, 10 minutes, and 2 seconds ago: <JLP> remaxim: not yet, have some other uni work to do before that18:14
mithro~seen jotham18:14
tpbmithro: jotham was last seen in #tp 1 day, 16 hours, 30 minutes, and 1 second ago: <jotham> since her and i were going to move away togeather18:14
pereshi mithro18:14
peresmithro: i've been playing with git locally and doesn't seem so scary (and it certainly is *way* faster than svn)18:15
mithroperes: cool18:15
peresmithro: how come you need a public key for me?18:15
mithroperes: when you first started using git, you keep wondering if it actually did anything because it's so fast18:16
mithroperes: so you can push your changes to our repository18:16
peresmithro: do you mean sf needs a public key for pushing?18:16
mithroperes: we don't host our repositories on SF18:16
pereseh, right, there is not 'sf' in the git URL :P18:17
peresmithro: i will generate a public key with SSH and send you at (my) lunch time18:17
mithroperes: okay18:17
peresmithro: what about my name there? isn't a mockup good enough?18:17
mithro?18:18
peresmithro: can i pretend my name is peres peres?18:18
peresmithro: just wondering, i'm really a privacy psycho18:18
mithroperes: sure, you login name can be peres - however I do like to have real names associated with usernames18:19
mithrowhat apperas in the CIA/email announcements is what ever you set in your ~/.gitconfig18:20
peresmithro: ok, got to sleep now. catch you later.18:22
mithroperes: okay cool18:22
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midorikidnash, I was looking at the EFL and it looks like Evas, and Ecore are tightly coupled with X.  Are you planning on porting Galaxie to platforms without an X implementation?19:18
nashmidorikid: Look again19:20
midorikidOkay.  I'll admit I only scanned the higher level documentation. :)19:20
nashEvas runs on frame buffe,r direct fb, win32 gdi, win32 direct X, open GL, Qtopia and quite a few other things19:20
nashDeveloping under X is easiest however19:23
nashRuns on FB quite nicely which is godo for embedded devices, such as DS19:24
nashHave you got a custom firmware for you DS or something?19:24
midorikidNo, a slot-2 (GBA style) to SD adapter and a cartridge that boots whatever is in slot-2 is all that is needed.19:25
nashCool19:25
nashCool19:25
nashWhat is the processor etc?19:26
midorikid66 MHz ARM9 and a 33 MHz ARM7.19:26
nashSlow, but usuable19:27
nashIs there any graphics accell, or is the ARM7 used as graphics coprocessor?19:27
midorikidThe ARM7 is generally used for audio and network stuff.  There's really nice 2D acceleration and some 3D stuff too.19:28
nashOkay, is there a documented 2d/3d API?19:28
nashAlso RAM etc?19:28
midorikidThe 2D graphics is focused on tiles, however, so I'm worried about the speed of frame buffer style rastering.19:29
nashThe Evas engine is optimised around tiles on the frame buffer19:29
midorikid4 MB of RAM.  There's enough video RAM for double buffering 16bpp.19:29
midorikidReally?  That's pretty cool.  I'll have to look more closely at it.19:30
nashmidorikid: We have evas on more devices then you can imagine.19:30
nashSee www.fst.net, see the video pages19:30
midorikidNice stuff!19:34
nashSome of hte stuff is propietry, but the core engine is evas19:36
midorikidThe DS has hardware blending, but only between four different layers.  If more than that is needed, then you can grab the frame and feed it back as another layer.19:40
nashAny other acceleration?19:51
midorikidThe Evas API reference seems to be down.  I'll have to take a closer look later.  Thanks for the info!19:52
nashmidorikid: easy_e17.sh19:52
nashDownload and install sources, then you can gen you own API19:53
midorikidSure, good idea.19:54
mithrohey nash and midorikid20:08
midorikidHello!20:09
mithrooh btw, both nash and I are in Australia20:10
mithromidorikid: does the wireless work/easy to access?20:10
midorikidAwesome!  I always wanted to travel down there.20:10
midorikidThere's a wireless library for the DS and it seems to work okay.  I use an FTP server developed with it so I don't have to swap the cards constantly.20:12
mithrocool, tp without internet access is pretty useless20:14
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greywhind_mithro: ping?22:57
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nashHe was here earlier22:58
greywhindnash: do you know which icon is supposed to be used for the "mouse mode" icon on the starmap?22:58
nashNFI I'm afraid22:58
nashSorry22:58
greywhindnash: do you have the client? if so, would you be able to copy the MouseMode attribute of the panelStarMap.xrc file in windows/xrc and paste it for me?23:02
nashgreywhind: Give me 30 seconds - main branch I assume?23:03
greywhindnash: hmm... development would be better, but main might work23:03
greywhindsomething like this:23:03
greywhind          <object class="sizeritem">23:04
greywhind            <object class="wxBitmapButton" name="MouseMode">23:04
greywhind              <bitmap stock_id="wxART_GO_DOWN"></bitmap>23:04
greywhind            </object>23:04
nash          <object class="sizeritem">23:04
nash            <object class="wxBitmapButton" name="MouseMode">23:04
nash              <bitmap stock_id="wxART_MISSING_IMAGE"></bitmap>23:04
nash            </object>23:04
nash          </object>23:04
nash?23:04
greywhindnash: hmm... interesting.23:04
nashMISSING IMAGE ?23:04
greywhindnash: mithro has shown me screenshots of it working... maybe it's only his linux distro that has the image or something23:05
nashI think I took that photo... ;-)23:05
greywhindbut on mine the image is missing, as, apparently, on yours23:06
nashgreywhind: Sounds like you need to lart mithro ;-)23:06
greywhindnash: yep23:06
greywhindi just wish i knew which image he wanted there, then i could mark the bug as resolved23:06
nashmark it as NEEDINFO... almost as good ;-)23:07
greywhindnash: i don't see a needinfo resolution status23:10
nashgreywhind: D'oh23:10
nashPut a comment in then... that way mithro gets the email23:10
greywhindnash: yeah, that's what i'm doing.23:10
mithroheyo23:37
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greywhindmithro: hey - you're just in time23:37
mithrobeen in meetings most of the day23:38
mithrobeen rewriting the event handling stuff in tpclient-pywx :P23:38
mithros/been/last night/23:39
greywhindmithro: i believe i've resolved two bugs.23:39
mithrogreywhind: oh that would be cool :P23:39
greywhindmithro: however, i need to know what the value for the image on the MouseMode button in panelStarMap.xrc should be23:39
mithrodunno :) find a good one - maybe a mouse icon like thing?23:40
greywhindmithro: can you look up what it is in yours?23:40
greywhindyours shows the correct image, right?23:41
pschulz01mithro: Howdy.. what was the git commant for getting the verison from a TAG.23:41
mithrosame as above23:41
pschulz01command23:41
mithrogit-describe23:41
mithrocheck the build-deb.sh and follow it from there23:41
pschulz01mithro: Ta :-)23:42
mithrogreywhind: so it appears that my wx.ART_MISSING_IMAGE is a nice little square thingy :)23:42
greywhindmithro: ah. :)23:42
mithrogreywhind: good find :)23:43
greywhindmithro: i'm going to send you a screenshot of the icon i would pick23:43
mithrogreywhind: so I recommend that you find a better icon - probably a mouse icon thing23:43
greywhindmithro: i don't see anything that's a mouse icon... at least, not obviously based on the name23:44
mithroyou can paste it here if you want23:44
mithrogreywhind: well that button changes the "mouse mode" so think along those lines23:45
greywhindmithro: http://free.prohosting.com/whind/stuff/tpmainbarsuggestion.png23:45
tpb<http://ln-s.net/1OXf> (at free.prohosting.com)23:45
mithrogreywhind: what is the name of that?23:45
greywhindwxART_GO_DOWN23:46
mithrohrm, you can always make a custom image if you feeling up to it23:46
greywhindmithro: i could, if you'd like23:46
mithromake it a mouse cursor looking thing?23:47
greywhindmithro: sure23:47
mithrowhat was the other bug?23:47
greywhindmithro: the no default zoom level bug23:47
greywhindmithro: it seems there is a default zoom level, it's just not being shown in the list box23:48
greywhindso on line 233 of panelStarMap.py i added:23:48
greywhindself.ZoomLevel.SetValue("Fit")23:48
mithrookay, sounds good23:48
greywhindmithro: simple bugs, but at least we can cross them off23:49
mithrosimple bugs are the good kind23:49
greywhindmithro: indeed23:49
greywhindmithro: do you know the size of the icons?23:49
mithronope :)23:50
mithroI think you need to create a varaity of sizes? take a look at the icons inside wxFloatCanvas?23:50
greywhindmithro: ok23:50
greywhindmithro: hmm... not sure i see any icons in FloatCanvas23:52
greywhindbut it looks like there are some in TP23:52
mithrooh23:53
mithro## create all the Cursors, so they don't need to be created each time.23:53
mithroif "wxMac" in wx.PlatformInfo: # use 16X16 cursors for wxMac23:53
mithro    HandCursor = wx.CursorFromImage(Resources.getHand16Image())23:53
mithro    GrabHandCursor = wx.CursorFromImage(Resources.getGrabHand16Image())23:53
mithro    img = Resources.getMagPlus16Image()23:53
mithro    img.SetOptionInt(wx.IMAGE_OPTION_CUR_HOTSPOT_X, 6)23:53
mithro    img.SetOptionInt(wx.IMAGE_OPTION_CUR_HOTSPOT_Y, 6)23:53
mithro    MagPlusCursor = wx.CursorFromImage(img)23:53
mithro    img = Resources.getMagMinus16Image()23:53
mithro    img.SetOptionInt(wx.IMAGE_OPTION_CUR_HOTSPOT_X, 6)23:53
mithro    img.SetOptionInt(wx.IMAGE_OPTION_CUR_HOTSPOT_Y, 6)23:53
mithro    MagMinusCursor = wx.CursorFromImage(img)23:53
mithroelse: # use 24X24 cursors for GTK and Windows23:53
mithro    HandCursor = wx.CursorFromImage(Resources.getHandImage())23:53
mithro    GrabHandCursor = wx.CursorFromImage(Resources.getGrabHandImage())23:53
mithro    img = Resources.getMagPlusImage()23:53
mithro    img.SetOptionInt(wx.IMAGE_OPTION_CUR_HOTSPOT_X, 9)23:53
mithro    img.SetOptionInt(wx.IMAGE_OPTION_CUR_HOTSPOT_Y, 9)23:53
mithro    MagPlusCursor = wx.CursorFromImage(img)23:53
mithro    img = Resources.getMagMinusImage()23:53
mithro    img.SetOptionInt(wx.IMAGE_OPTION_CUR_HOTSPOT_X, 9)23:53
mithro    img.SetOptionInt(wx.IMAGE_OPTION_CUR_HOTSPOT_Y, 9)23:53
mithro    MagMinusCursor = wx.CursorFromImage(img)23:53
mithrodang didn't mean to paste that here23:53
mithrooh well23:53
mithrodunno if that helps at all?23:58

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