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| CIA-19 | llnz tpserver-cpp * r2e40e098d453 /tpserver/ (playerview.cpp playerview.h): | 04:44 |
| CIA-19 | Added OwnedObjects member to PlayerView, and related methods. | 04:44 |
| CIA-19 | Should make things like sensor sweeps easier. And can be also used to see | 04:44 |
| CIA-19 | if the player still has objects in their control, are they in the game still. | 04:44 |
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| CIA-19 | llnz tpserver-cpp * redd23d74f1ed /tpserver/ (turntimer.cpp turntimer.h): | 04:58 |
| CIA-19 | TurnTimer now takes dead players into account when checking threshold. | 04:58 |
| CIA-19 | Including checking whether the player of the TurnFinished frame is dead or | 04:58 |
| CIA-19 | not. Should make setting the threshold a bit more simple. | 04:58 |
| CIA-19 | llnz tpserver-cpp * re5f9e69d98d7 /sample.conf: Updated documentation of turn_player_threshold | 05:01 |
| CIA-19 | llnz tpserver-cpp * r0a327b8646a0 /modules/games/minisec/ (6 files): | 05:16 |
| CIA-19 | Minisec set and removes PlayerView OwnedObjects. | 05:16 |
| CIA-19 | Quite painless, should be able to do victory conditions now, and also set | 05:16 |
| CIA-19 | isAlive correctly. | 05:16 |
| CIA-19 | llnz tpserver-cpp * r7b172378a0b1 /modules/games/minisec/minisecturn.cpp: Removed commented out dead code from minisecturn.cpp | 05:19 |
| CIA-19 | llnz tpserver-cpp * r33f6288d2fc2 /modules/games/minisec/minisecturn.cpp: | 05:39 |
| CIA-19 | Minisec impl now checks victory conditions. | 05:39 |
| CIA-19 | And gives the players a message if they are eliminated or win. Hopefully | 05:39 |
| CIA-19 | only once. | 05:39 |
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| CIA-19 | llnz tpserver-cpp * ra35de74cf064 /tpserver/game.cpp: | 06:07 |
| CIA-19 | Game sets the number of dead players on TurnTimer. | 06:07 |
| CIA-19 | It does this before the the TurnTimer is started, and after EOT processing | 06:07 |
| CIA-19 | has occured. | 06:07 |
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| remaxim | hi | 06:24 |
| llnz | hi remaxim | 06:24 |
| remaxim | hello llnz | 06:24 |
| remaxim | llnz, do you have a video of the battleviewer or the battleviewer on your pc? | 06:25 |
| llnz | don't have the battleviewer or a video of it, but I do have the video from starmapper | 06:27 |
| remaxim | what's the starmapper? | 06:27 |
| llnz | starmapper is a tool for plotting empires (among other things) from a space game server (TP or stars!) | 06:28 |
| remaxim | llnz, something like this: http://www.thousandparsec.net/~tim/test-battle.avi | 06:29 |
| tpb | <http://ln-s.net/1+RG> (at www.thousandparsec.net) | 06:29 |
| llnz | that is starmapper | 06:29 |
| llnz | a video of starmapper | 06:30 |
| remaxim | ah ok! I ve watched that already ... | 06:30 |
| remaxim | that was the reason for my decision not to play the game ;) | 06:30 |
| llnz | of the actual battleview, i haven't even seen a video | 06:31 |
| llnz | there are screen shots somewhere though | 06:31 |
| remaxim | llnz, it would be great if you could find those screenshots... | 06:33 |
| remaxim | I m searching for them myself as well ... | 06:34 |
| llnz | have just been looking | 06:34 |
| remaxim | http://www.ohloh.net/projects/3679?p=Thousand+Parsec ;) | 06:36 |
| tpb | <http://ln-s.net/19DV> (at www.ohloh.net) | 06:36 |
| remaxim | did you know about that? | 06:36 |
| llnz | yes | 06:37 |
| llnz | that marker on New Zealand is me | 06:38 |
| llnz | ok, found some links to screen shots | 06:41 |
| llnz | http://www.thousandparsec.net/~irc/logs/search?q=fieldsofnoise.org%2FArchive | 06:41 |
| tpb | <http://ln-s.net/1Gey> (at www.thousandparsec.net) | 06:41 |
| remaxim | you're fucking lucky ... I really envy you ... must be great living there | 06:42 |
| remaxim | do you surf? | 06:42 |
| llnz | yes i'm lucky, but google doesn't have an office in NZ | 06:43 |
| llnz | nope | 06:43 |
| remaxim | llnz, do you want to work for google? | 06:44 |
| llnz | quite possibly, I am interview for them currently | 06:45 |
| remaxim | did you ever tried to? I m loving it... it's just a great feeling! You just don't have a chance to surf in germany :( | 06:45 |
| remaxim | llnz, I hope you get the job ... good luck | 06:46 |
| llnz | thanks | 06:47 |
| llnz | i haven't tried surfing, i'm not really an adventure sport person (or like getting wet) | 06:47 |
| llnz | i do sail (sometimes) though | 06:47 |
| remaxim | yeah, ok! I used to skate ... probably that's why I love it ... | 06:49 |
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| remaxim | hm? | 07:22 |
| tpb | aloril has joined on worldforge | 07:23 |
| remaxim | are we connected to another channel? | 07:24 |
| llnz | yes | 07:25 |
| llnz | #tp on irc.worldforge.org | 07:26 |
| remaxim | ah ... | 07:27 |
| remaxim | they don't talk too much on the other channel, do they? | 07:27 |
| llnz | nope, there is normally only one or two on, and they don't talk much | 07:27 |
| llnz | TP used WorldForge's infrastructure for a while when we started, and where it was first announced | 07:28 |
| llnz | we used their irc server till about a year or so ago | 07:29 |
| remaxim | ah ok! that's why you don't close it? | 07:29 |
| llnz | yeah | 07:29 |
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| remaxim | hi peres | 07:33 |
| peres | hi there | 07:34 |
| remaxim | do you want to listen to the new ones ;) | 07:34 |
| peres | i only have 5 minutes, so it's ok if it is shorter that that | 07:34 |
| remaxim | the new ones togheter will last more than 5 min ;) | 07:35 |
| peres | just pick one then | 07:35 |
| remaxim | that's the newest one: http://www.box.net/shared/d9yhqrm85b | 07:35 |
| tpb | Title: Box.net - Free Online File Storage, Internet File Sharing, Online Storage, Access Documents & Files Anywhere, Backup Data, Send Files (at www.box.net) | 07:35 |
| remaxim | peres, I did ;) | 07:36 |
| remaxim | llnz, so the battleviewer isn't going to be finished in the near future? | 07:37 |
| llnz | ask jotham | 07:40 |
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| llnz | there is likely to be work on it in the near future | 07:40 |
| remaxim | hi jotham, are you there? | 07:40 |
| llnz | jotham is also in NZ and its 1:46am here.... | 07:49 |
| llnz | err... 1:54am | 07:49 |
| remaxim | ah... ok! | 07:49 |
| llnz | i should go to bed | 07:49 |
| remaxim | good night | 07:49 |
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| llnz | later all | 07:49 |
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| JLP | mithro: pong | 08:16 |
| mithro | hey JLP | 08:16 |
| mithro | could use your feedback on the calander artwork | 08:16 |
| JLP | mithro: sure, where can I check it out | 08:17 |
| mithro | http://svn.thousandparsec.net/svn/media/promotion/calender/ | 08:17 |
| tpb | <http://ln-s.net/1DLp> (at svn.thousandparsec.net) | 08:17 |
| mithro | http://svn.thousandparsec.net/cgi-bin/viewcvs.cgi/media/promotion/calender/ | 08:17 |
| tpb | <http://ln-s.net/1Ftd> (at svn.thousandparsec.net) | 08:17 |
| remaxim | hi JLP | 08:18 |
| JLP | remaxim: ahoy | 08:18 |
| JLP | mithro: very nice drawing, although most motives are too "dark"/"scarry" for my taste | 08:23 |
| remaxim | JLP, do you want to listen to the 3th one? | 08:24 |
| JLP | remaxim: of course, i really should get thru the irc logs and post that post to mailing list that i was talking about before | 08:25 |
| remaxim | http://www.box.net/shared/d9yhqrm85b | 08:25 |
| tpb | Title: Box.net - Free Online File Storage, Internet File Sharing, Online Storage, Access Documents & Files Anywhere, Backup Data, Send Files (at www.box.net) | 08:25 |
| JLP | remaxim: btw, i finaly managed to find some of the music from Ascendancy :) | 08:25 |
| remaxim | what's Ascendancy once again? | 08:26 |
| remaxim | JLP, I did 3 songs, if you want to I can send you the links! | 08:26 |
| remaxim | and yes, it would be great if you could do the post ... it's much cooler to get introduced by someone other ;) | 08:27 |
| JLP | remaxim: Ascendancy is one of the games similar to Thousand Parsec | 08:27 |
| remaxim | ah ... OK | 08:27 |
| remaxim | it's a little bit late I think ;) ... I m almost done with the "main part" songs | 08:27 |
| remaxim | but I still want to listen to it ;) | 08:28 |
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| JLP | brb | 08:35 |
| JLP | back | 08:49 |
| JLP | remaxim: here is the archive with ascendancy music - http://jlp.holodeck1.com/tp/Ascendancy.zip | 08:50 |
| remaxim | thx | 08:50 |
| remaxim | JLP, so what you think of the 3th one? | 08:50 |
| JLP | remaxim: just listened to it and i like it very much | 08:55 |
| remaxim | thanks | 08:56 |
| remaxim | JLP, do you need the links for those 3 songs? | 08:56 |
| remaxim | so you don't have to search for them ... | 08:56 |
| JLP | remaxim: no need to, i can quickly find them in our IRC logs | 08:58 |
| remaxim | JLP, I posted a lot of unfinished material ;) | 08:58 |
| JLP | remaxim: well, if you feel i should only include some of them, then it is best that you give the list of the ones | 08:59 |
| remaxim | OK, wait a minute ;) | 09:00 |
| JLP | remaxim: btw, what is your name | 09:03 |
| remaxim | JLP, could you ask me that once again in privat chat? | 09:03 |
| remaxim | *in a | 09:03 |
| remaxim | the channel is logged and I use this nickname very often ... I want to keep it anonymous | 09:04 |
| remaxim | JLP, the first one: http://www.box.net/shared/uil229zf6p | 09:06 |
| tpb | Title: Box.net - Free Online File Storage, Internet File Sharing, Online Storage, Access Documents & Files Anywhere, Backup Data, Send Files (at www.box.net) | 09:06 |
| remaxim | the second one: http://www.box.net/shared/5shzsz3yns | 09:06 |
| tpb | Title: Box.net - Free Online File Storage, Internet File Sharing, Online Storage, Access Documents & Files Anywhere, Backup Data, Send Files (at www.box.net) | 09:06 |
| remaxim | and you already have the 3th one ;) | 09:06 |
| JLP | remaxim: ok then, i'll just use the nickname in the post then | 09:06 |
| remaxim | thx | 09:06 |
| remaxim | I m trying to make a brand out of my nickname ;) | 09:07 |
| JLP | remaxim: post sent to mailing list | 09:19 |
| remaxim | thx | 09:20 |
| remaxim | JLP, I didn't get it yet... how long does it usually take? | 09:20 |
| JLP | remaxim: a few minutes i think | 09:21 |
| remaxim | ok, thx | 09:21 |
| remaxim | great post, thanks! | 09:27 |
| remaxim | I have some discussions with the guys at #gnu about the licensing of the work | 09:44 |
| JLP | and what do they say? GPL or CC by-sa? | 09:52 |
| remaxim | JLP, they say I should release it as CC by-sa... | 09:55 |
| remaxim | but I don't want to | 09:55 |
| JLP | oh, which license did you have in mind? | 09:57 |
| remaxim | probably GPL or something like that... | 09:58 |
| remaxim | and a second one as CC-BY-SA-NC for jamendo ;) | 09:58 |
| JLP | well as far as i know GPL is quite close to CC by-sa | 09:59 |
| remaxim | music licensing seems to be big bag of shit ... :( | 09:59 |
| remaxim | many people don't see that there is a huge diffrence between music and software | 10:00 |
| JLP | yeah all licensing is crap, if all people would be fair and all then we would not need licenses and lawyers | 10:01 |
| remaxim | JLP, I don't think so... I like close source as well, but I want good conditions for releasing freely ... | 10:02 |
| * JLP goes translating KDE 4, so there could be some lag with responses | 10:05 | |
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| remaxim | mattl? | 10:46 |
| remaxim | just the same dude who kicked me? | 10:47 |
| mattl | that's me. | 10:47 |
| mattl | i came to see about the game. | 10:47 |
| remaxim | great! now you know which project I am working for | 10:47 |
| mattl | also, listening to rain on the window | 10:47 |
| remaxim | it's a crab name | 10:47 |
| mattl | which part of germany are you from? | 10:48 |
| remaxim | bavaria... the ignorant one | 10:48 |
| mattl | i was over in Germany recently, spent about a month in Berlin. | 10:48 |
| remaxim | mattl, if you want to I can link you the music I made for this game ;) ... which should be used in free projects only ;) | 10:49 |
| mattl | met a load of bands at this MTV Europe awards thing.. | 10:49 |
| remaxim | did you like it? | 10:49 |
| mattl | oh, i love berlin. try to go whenever i can. | 10:49 |
| remaxim | mattl, in which band are you? | 10:49 |
| mattl | remaxim: furny. | 10:49 |
| remaxim | Never heard of that one | 10:50 |
| mattl | we're not huge. | 10:51 |
| mattl | http://furny.co.uk/about.html tells you more. | 10:51 |
| tpb | Title: furny - about furny (at furny.co.uk) | 10:51 |
| remaxim | I m already at your website ;) | 10:51 |
| remaxim | mattl, if you want to listen to the stuff I made for this game: http://www.box.net/shared/lbqx6709eq | 10:55 |
| tpb | Title: Box.net - Free Online File Storage, Internet File Sharing, Online Storage, Access Documents & Files Anywhere, Backup Data, Send Files (at www.box.net) | 10:55 |
| remaxim | I m off... bye | 10:56 |
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| remaxim | hi | 12:11 |
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| remaxim | hi | 15:00 |
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| remaxim | peres, so... did you like it? | 15:24 |
| peres | remaxim: let me listen to it another time, had a long day and forgot it completely ;) | 15:25 |
| * peres peeking in the logs | 15:25 | |
| remaxim | peres, http://www.box.net/shared/d9yhqrm85b | 15:25 |
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| peres | it's 9-2 isn't it? | 15:26 |
| remaxim | yep... | 15:26 |
| remaxim | G 9-2 to be precise ;) | 15:27 |
| peres | i guess the guys may like it as background music | 15:27 |
| remaxim | so, do you like it? | 15:29 |
| peres | i do | 15:29 |
| remaxim | It's no problem if not! | 15:29 |
| remaxim | sorry, too late | 15:29 |
| peres | noob question: how do you make it longer without looping? | 15:29 |
| remaxim | thanks | 15:29 |
| remaxim | peres, are you the noob asking it? ;) | 15:29 |
| peres | i am | 15:29 |
| remaxim | ok... it easy... | 15:30 |
| remaxim | it's looped | 15:30 |
| remaxim | I did about 6-8 lines and then just switched between them | 15:30 |
| remaxim | it's still looped, but with diffrent lines | 15:30 |
| peres | that's what i wanted to know | 15:30 |
| peres | so you could add more length this way | 15:31 |
| remaxim | peres, I never heard of any producer who doesn't loop ;) | 15:31 |
| greywhind | pretty much any music will have some repeated sections | 15:31 |
| remaxim | peres, of course as long as you want it to be | 15:31 |
| remaxim | greywhind, yep... usually the voice is the only part which is not looped | 15:32 |
| peres | ok, i understand looping, but i was wondering if anybody wouldn't turn off their speakers after a couple of times | 15:32 |
| peres | unless you loop a very long track, it's going to be annoying after a while | 15:32 |
| greywhind | peres: that's why you want more than one piece, or more than one section of the piece. | 15:33 |
| remaxim | yep... you just have to put some variations in it | 15:33 |
| * peres can't speak music-ese | 15:33 | |
| greywhind | and if it's in the background, not the focus of a person's concentration, they usually won't get too tired of it | 15:33 |
| peres | greywhind: that's a good point. I'm probably thinking of the typical pop song playing over and over... | 15:34 |
| remaxim | peres, just put some breaks in it, add a extra instrument ... that's it | 15:35 |
| peres | remaxim: so, my recommendation would be to add slide guitar section | 15:35 |
| peres | :P | 15:35 |
| remaxim | that's a problem for many people who aren't used to hiphop .. | 15:35 |
| remaxim | peres, are you serious? | 15:35 |
| peres | i don't mean a loud slide guitar | 15:36 |
| peres | can you experiment with some muffled sound? it may merge well with the keyboards | 15:36 |
| remaxim | peres, I only have my midi keyboard to produce with ;) | 15:36 |
| peres | too bad ;) | 15:36 |
| remaxim | that's kind of hard to do with it... I could use samples and cut them... but that's it | 15:37 |
| peres | i'm sorry, that was just an idea... based on personal taste :) | 15:37 |
| remaxim | np... | 15:38 |
| remaxim | peres, you told me to add some female voice in the intro | 15:38 |
| peres | i did ;) should i feel guilty? | 15:38 |
| remaxim | that was a great Idea, I even had some stuff experiments with that... but now I was told that the intro has to be synchron to a video they showed me | 15:39 |
| peres | i see, so no room for voices? | 15:40 |
| remaxim | probably not | 15:40 |
| peres | have you still got some of your experiments somewhere? i would enjoy listening to them | 15:41 |
| remaxim | peres, yes I have... they had been awful... | 15:43 |
| remaxim | shit, sorry... wrong button | 15:43 |
| remaxim | I hope I didn't do anything bad | 15:43 |
| greywhind | remaxim: looks the same as before | 15:43 |
| peres | wow wikipedia is down | 15:44 |
| remaxim | greywhind, ok... then it should be alright I think | 15:45 |
| remaxim | peres, true | 15:45 |
| remaxim | peres, http://git.thousandparsec.net/gitweb/gitweb.cgi?p=tpclient-pywx.git;a=blob;f=graphics/intro-high.mpg;h=8a212f4dabf739799abfeb50760fe3f8bd9db90f;hb=development ... that how the intro will look like | 15:46 |
| tpb | <http://ln-s.net/1DpY> (at git.thousandparsec.net) | 15:46 |
| remaxim | greywhind, do you know who did the intro? | 15:47 |
| greywhind | remaxim: nope | 15:47 |
| remaxim | I think it looks great... like some 90's game intro | 15:47 |
| remaxim | peres, it's not only that there is no room for voices... I don't have any fucking idea how to synchronize the music to the video | 15:48 |
| peres | there is just a nine second splash screen in that intro, is that right? | 15:48 |
| peres | remaxim: you will need to ask the guy who made the intro to give you cues for events | 15:49 |
| peres | so you know what is meant to happen at each time and can compose your music according to it | 15:50 |
| remaxim | peres, great idea... never thought of that | 15:50 |
| peres | otherwise, music and video would always look out of sync :) | 15:51 |
| remaxim | peres, I thought of an software based solution, but your's probably better | 15:51 |
| peres | remaxim: the less software you have, the less can break ;) | 15:52 |
| remaxim | peres, as long as my music doesn't break everything's alright | 15:52 |
| peres | i wonder how it could... | 15:52 |
| remaxim | peres, me too ;) | 15:53 |
| peres | my idea for the intro screen would be a longer black section at the beginning, so you can put voices in there | 15:53 |
| remaxim | just wanted to say something intellegent ;) | 15:53 |
| remaxim | peres, I think it's kind of hard creating those voices | 15:54 |
| peres | then a soft electric sound builds up (maybe the voices can become keyboard sounds) as the stars began to race leaving their trail | 15:54 |
| peres | and a big BOOM when the logo appears :P | 15:55 |
| peres | and a low male voice can be heard saying: 'thousand parsec, way more fps than counterstrike' at the end :P | 15:56 |
| * peres goes upstairs and gets his medicine for madness | 15:57 | |
| remaxim | peres, I like the idea of the male voice... | 15:57 |
| remaxim | I think there is the words "thousand parsec" missing at the end anyway | 15:58 |
| peres | funny how it may sound, i was serious about everything BUT the male voice :P | 15:58 |
| remaxim | peres, of course not in counterstrike kind, but it would be interesting I think | 16:00 |
| remaxim | with some echoes in it | 16:02 |
| remaxim | :D | 16:07 |
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| remaxim | is anyone still here? | 16:54 |
| remaxim | I m uploading the first intro with sound right now... | 16:55 |
| greywhind | i'm here | 16:55 |
| remaxim | it's awful... but I think I m going to leave the first part as it is | 16:55 |
| remaxim | greywhind, do you want to watch it? | 16:56 |
| greywhind | remaxim: sure | 16:56 |
| remaxim | my internet connection is too slow ... | 16:56 |
| remaxim | while uploading... | 16:57 |
| remaxim | seems like someone's already uploading something... strange | 16:57 |
| remaxim | greywhind, http://www.box.net/shared/26ni3ygih9 | 16:58 |
| tpb | Title: Box.net - Free Online File Storage, Internet File Sharing, Online Storage, Access Documents & Files Anywhere, Backup Data, Send Files (at www.box.net) | 16:58 |
| remaxim | I ll be back in one minute ... | 16:58 |
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| remaxim | re | 17:01 |
| greywhind | remaxim: i actually like that | 17:01 |
| remaxim | thanks | 17:01 |
| remaxim | greywhind, the explosion has to be a little bit stronger, doesn't it? | 17:01 |
| greywhind | i don't think it's awful at all | 17:01 |
| greywhind | remaxim: hmm... maybe, but it didn't immediately strike me as too soft | 17:02 |
| remaxim | greywhind, it's awful in comparison with what I had in mind to do... but don't have the right instruments/samples for that | 17:02 |
| remaxim | greywhind, are you still here? | 17:17 |
| greywhind | remaxim: yes | 17:18 |
| remaxim | just uploading a version with a better explosion | 17:18 |
| remaxim | greywhind, http://www.box.net/shared/3qe1j25onu | 17:19 |
| tpb | Title: Box.net - Free Online File Storage, Internet File Sharing, Online Storage, Access Documents & Files Anywhere, Backup Data, Send Files (at www.box.net) | 17:19 |
| remaxim | the diffrence is not too big, but I think the new one is still better | 17:22 |
| greywhind | remaxim: yeah, a little bit | 17:22 |
| greywhind | fades out better | 17:22 |
| remaxim | fades in better as well ;) | 17:22 |
| remaxim | IMO | 17:22 |
| remaxim | = the sound of the explosion doesn't hurt that much I think ;) | 17:27 |
| greywhind | ? | 17:27 |
| remaxim | there was a *klick* sound when it exploded | 17:27 |
| remaxim | OK, not exactly a *klick* sound... | 17:28 |
| greywhind | well, it sounds good now | 17:28 |
| remaxim | but I added some "attack" ... | 17:28 |
| remaxim | thx | 17:28 |
| remaxim | attack means that the sound is quite at the begining and then gets louder ... I don't know how common this expression is ... | 17:32 |
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| remaxim | greywhind, do you know the address of the mailing list? | 17:43 |
| remaxim | I ve lost it somehow... (it's probably somewhere in my other OS) | 17:43 |
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| greywhind | remaxim: [email protected] | 17:44 |
| remaxim | thx | 17:45 |
| remaxim | Ok, I just did my first mailing list posting :) | 18:06 |
| remaxim | and now I ll get some sleep! good night | 18:09 |
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