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kronos | madrazr, hey. can i PM u ? i wanted to talk about my gsoc proposal. | 08:07 |
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madrazr | kronos: if you want to talk about the GSoC proposal | 08:07 |
madrazr | kronos: I prefer to talk here | 08:07 |
madrazr | kronos: so that others know what we are talking | 08:07 |
kronos | madrazr, ok..fine. | 08:07 |
madrazr | kronos: go ahead | 08:08 |
kronos | madrazr, ww.google-melange.com/gsoc/proposal/review/google/gsoc2011/bhargav/1 ..here's my proposal | 08:08 |
madrazr | kronos: what do you want to talk about the proposal? | 08:08 |
kronos | madrazr, i was updating it and list the deliverables. | 08:08 |
kronos | madrazr, i wanted to know which of the subproject is least required. | 08:09 |
madrazr | kronos: I did not get your question | 08:09 |
kronos | madrazr, so that i can drop it. as i believe the project is a lot of work for a summer. | 08:09 |
madrazr | kronos: what subproject are you referring to here? | 08:09 |
kronos | madrazr, those i mentioned in my proposal. | 08:10 |
madrazr | kronos: I believe Sverre did not ask you to drop things | 08:10 |
madrazr | kronos: rather, I see that on the comment | 08:10 |
madrazr | kronos: we instead asked you to make the deliverables more fine-grained | 08:10 |
madrazr | kronos: so that we can repriotize things as we go through the project | 08:11 |
kronos | madrazr, ok. will do that. | 08:11 |
kronos | madrazr, thanks | 08:11 |
madrazr | kronos: NP | 08:11 |
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stefanha | I have asked a student to switch to a different project. He reported that Melange does not allow him to edit the title of his proposal, he can only withdraw and resubmit it. This late in the game I'm nervous about him withdrawing from the system and resubmitting from scratch in case there are hickups. | 08:44 |
stefanha | Is there any way for us to edit the proposal title? | 08:44 |
gevaerts | Resubmitting from scratch won't be possible anyway | 08:51 |
gevaerts | You did allow edits presumably? | 08:51 |
gevaerts | Anyway, in previous years edits after the submission deadlines weren't possible at all, and people still did this sort of thing. If both you and the student agree on the new proposal, the title isn't too important | 08:53 |
gevaerts | I'd make sure the text or the comments reflect the new state though, to avoid disputes later | 08:53 |
* gevaerts should perhaps warn that he's only a lowly mentor, not an org admin, a melange dev, or a gsoc organiser | 08:54 | |
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slingshot316 | madrazr: hello :) | 09:29 |
slingshot316 | madrazr: are proposal edits allowed now? | 09:29 |
stefanha | gevaerts: Yes, we allowed edits. | 09:38 |
stefanha | gevaerts: I'd like for the student's official project name to reflect reality, but oh well ;) | 09:39 |
gevaerts | Yes, I can understand that :) | 09:39 |
k0p | hi there. | 09:46 |
k0p | for instance, if a proposal is not marked as gree, and we mark it as accept, what it means? | 09:49 |
madrazr | stefanha: you allowed edit and the student was not able to change only the title but was able to change the content? | 10:01 |
madrazr | slingshot316: Hi | 10:01 |
madrazr | slingshot316: yes | 10:01 |
madrazr | slingshot316: if the mentor/org admin allows that | 10:01 |
madrazr | k0p: gree? | 10:01 |
stefanha | madrazr: The student said: "The GSoC website seems to have disabled proposal update since applying" | 10:01 |
stefanha | period ended, I can only "withdraw" and "resubmit" the proposal there. | 10:01 |
stefanha | But the comment is open and I've already added the note." | 10:01 |
k0p | madrazr: no colour. | 10:02 |
madrazr | stefanha: if you have clicked the Proposal Modifications: "Enable" button | 10:02 |
madrazr | stefanha: the student should be able to see a Edit link just below his proposal title | 10:02 |
stefanha | madrazr: I just checked and realized that we have not enabled modifications. | 10:02 |
madrazr | stefanha: ah! | 10:02 |
slingshot316 | madrazr: for melange/ | 10:02 |
madrazr | stefanha: you can enable that | 10:02 |
slingshot316 | ? | 10:02 |
stefanha | I feel silly now. Thanks alot for pointing it out. | 10:03 |
k0p | well, something change now, some proposals are now green, but still miss one proposal to be green | 10:03 |
madrazr | stefanha: NP | 10:03 |
madrazr | stefanha: also please not that | 10:03 |
madrazr | the styling for that update button has changed | 10:03 |
madrazr | it used to be a "big" orange button next to the proposal title | 10:03 |
madrazr | it is now a normal, underlined link below the proposal title | 10:03 |
stefanha | madrazr: Cool, thanks :) | 10:04 |
madrazr | stefanha: however the student can see it only after you enable the modifications | 10:04 |
madrazr | stefanha: NP | 10:04 |
madrazr | k0p: did you compare it with the number of slots you have | 10:05 |
madrazr | k0p: there is some confusion there? | 10:05 |
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madrazr | slingshot316: what is for Melange? | 10:05 |
slingshot316 | madrazr: are modifications enabled by Melange? | 10:06 |
k0p | well, maybe. madrazr just we mark "accept" the number of students equal with the number of slots? | 10:06 |
Nightrose | madrazr: are duplicates updated instantly or as in previous years only once a day or so? | 10:06 |
madrazr | slingshot316: proposal modification is not Organization wide thing | 10:07 |
madrazr | slingshot316: it is dealt on case by case basis | 10:07 |
slingshot316 | madrazr: oh okay okay | 10:07 |
madrazr | slingshot316: if the mentor/org admin things that a student should be given a chance to edit his/her proposal like the use case stefanha had, they can enable it | 10:07 |
madrazr | for that proposal | 10:07 |
madrazr | k0p: not really | 10:07 |
madrazr | k0p: you mark all those proposals you want to take in for sure, whatsoever | 10:08 |
slingshot316 | madrazr: okat, i thought it was org wide | 10:08 |
madrazr | irrespective of the score | 10:08 |
madrazr | k0p: and if there are any more slots remaining, those will be taken in from the highest score | 10:08 |
madrazr | k0p: but I will cross-check once and tell you again | 10:08 |
madrazr | k0p: since it has been sometime since I looked at that code, it was so before. Not sure if it has changed now | 10:09 |
madrazr | k0p: I will confirm in about an hour or so | 10:09 |
madrazr | Nightrose: not really instantly | 10:09 |
madrazr | and not as long as a day :P | 10:09 |
madrazr | Nightrose: there are 2 ways they can be updated | 10:09 |
madrazr | Nightrose: the automated, duplication detection algorithm, runs once every hour | 10:09 |
Nightrose | ok | 10:09 |
Nightrose | thx | 10:10 |
madrazr | Nightrose: although, Carol/Sverre can override that | 10:10 |
madrazr | and rerun the program any time | 10:10 |
Nightrose | *nod* | 10:10 |
Nightrose | good enough for me :) | 10:10 |
madrazr | Nightrose: cool! | 10:10 |
madrazr | slingshot316: it is not | 10:10 |
madrazr | OK everyone, I am off for now | 10:10 |
madrazr | stupid meetings :P | 10:10 |
madrazr | k0p: I will get back to you in an hour | 10:10 |
madrazr | k0p: if I don't please feel free to ping me ;-) | 10:10 |
k0p | madrazr: sure | 10:11 |
k0p | because I stil have some doubts, at least it sounds strange for me. | 10:12 |
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vikash | leumas, are you in IItk? | 17:28 |
vikash | madrazr, hey | 17:28 |
leumas | vikash: hi! I'm in IITKgp ! | 17:28 |
vikash | ok! sp do guys have a proxy there? | 17:29 |
leumas | vikash: what proxy? sorry, I don't get you.. | 17:29 |
madrazr | vikash: Hi | 17:30 |
leumas | vikash: oh! ya, it's on proxy... | 17:30 |
madrazr | all IITs do have proxies! | 17:30 |
madrazr | the most screwed up thing ever | 17:30 |
madrazr | but IIT Kanpur is the only IIT I have seen, which has an amazingly setup proxy network | 17:31 |
vikash | madrazr, Was busy with exams! coming to your city on Friday | 17:31 |
vikash | Can I discuss some thing illegal here? | 17:31 |
madrazr | vikash: of course not | 17:31 |
madrazr | vikash: This place is not for illegal activities :P | 17:32 |
vikash | proxies are good :) | 17:32 |
madrazr | vikash: they aren't | 17:32 |
madrazr | vikash: you want real internet dude | 17:32 |
madrazr | today we are 2011 | 17:32 |
madrazr | vikash: we do not want toy internet | 17:32 |
vikash | from my point of view! My college too had it and it gave me the right experience to penetration testing | 17:32 |
madrazr | on which almost nothing works | 17:32 |
vikash | I am just saying it from learning point of view! | 17:33 |
madrazr | vikash: if you are interested in such a research, you should definitely ask your Univ to setup a private network for you | 17:33 |
madrazr | vikash: the proxy here takes hell lot of time out of my development time | 17:33 |
vikash | My college :( :( | 17:33 |
madrazr | vikash: either | 17:33 |
leumas | vikash: which clg r u from ? | 17:33 |
vikash | he he he +1 for that | 17:33 |
vikash | and thats true! | 17:33 |
vikash | manipal Inst of tech but they removed the proxy thing this year and included a login sys | 17:34 |
vikash | which is worse because they haven't managed it properly | 17:34 |
vikash | hey madrazr I will start working soon! I just need rest for few das | 17:35 |
madrazr | vikash: sure! | 17:35 |
vikash | *days | 17:35 |
vikash | madrazr, thanks for bearing with me | 17:35 |
vikash | leumas, whats your name | 17:35 |
madrazr | vikash: leumas :P | 17:35 |
vikash | and whichyear and branch | 17:35 |
vikash | :( | 17:36 |
leumas | vikash: it's the reverse of my nick! | 17:36 |
vikash | ok! got it nice one though | 17:36 |
leumas | vikash: 2nd yr, CS | 17:36 |
vikash | oh great sm here 2nd year IT | 17:36 |
leumas | vikash: cool! | 17:37 |
leumas | madrazr: hi! where r u from? | 17:39 |
madrazr | guys | 17:40 |
madrazr | I am on a conference call | 17:40 |
madrazr | will ping you in some time | 17:40 |
leumas | vikash: what did you mean, when u said 'illegal'? | 17:42 |
vikash | Something related to penetration testing | 17:44 |
leumas | oh! | 17:47 |
leumas | we have some relaxation over here :P | 17:48 |
vikash | hmm. i didn't get you ? and I guess we can talk over this in /query | 17:48 |
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JustinS | bug report: I have a project with a mentor assigned, but it still shows no mentor assigned in the dashboard list | 20:01 |
JustinS | http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/proposal/review/google/gsoc2011/nickprok/1001 | 20:01 |
tpb | <http://ln-s.net/8kGF> (at www.google-melange.com) | 20:01 |
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SRabbelier | JustinS: checking | 20:02 |
SRabbelier | JustinS: ok, I see what's causing the bug | 20:12 |
SRabbelier | working on a fix | 20:12 |
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SRabbelier | deploying | 20:22 |
SRabbelier | JustinS: can you try now? | 20:32 |
JustinS | trying | 20:32 |
JustinS | says "pending" in grey now | 20:33 |
SRabbelier | JustinS: okay :) | 20:33 |
SRabbelier | JustinS: just wait till the task finishes it's next run then | 20:34 |
JustinS | ok | 20:34 |
JustinS | we have one duplicate, so this project is the fallback in any case | 20:34 |
JustinS | thank you for the quick turnaround | 20:34 |
SRabbelier | JustinS: if it's a fallback you shouldn't be marking it as accepted ;) | 20:35 |
SRabbelier | JustinS: (np) | 20:35 |
JustinS | I need to count up again my slots vs mentors | 20:36 |
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kblin | hi | 20:42 |
kblin | somehow, having one proposal list for two orgs is unwieldy | 20:42 |
kblin | this might get better once melange remembers the filter settings, but last year I could just have the two orgs' pages open in two tabs and just hit refresh to keep up with our proposals | 20:43 |
SRabbelier | kblin: yeah, the remember filter setting is needed badly | 20:45 |
SRabbelier | kblin: I'm a mentor for 5 orgs atm :P | 20:45 |
SRabbelier | kblin: it's a pita | 20:45 |
SRabbelier | kblin: especially because KDE and python have so many proposals | 20:45 |
kblin | yeah, I can see it being worse for KDE and PSF | 20:46 |
* SRabbelier harasses Mario to fixing that | 20:46 | |
kblin | I must admit that I don't have any bright ideas on how the ideal UI would look like, even the remember filters setting is a bit of a kludge | 20:47 |
SRabbelier | kblin: patches or stfu :P | 20:48 |
SRabbelier | kblin: (or at least an idea on how we _should_ do it xD) | 20:48 |
SRabbelier | also | 20:48 |
SRabbelier | that wouldn't work still | 20:48 |
SRabbelier | the cookie I mean | 20:48 |
SRabbelier | since it's per page | 20:48 |
SRabbelier | not per window :( | 20:48 |
kblin | that's why I didn't file a bug about it | 20:48 |
kblin | also, when you talk to your web design guys the next time... I'd love to know why web designers insist that I can only use 20% of my screen width for page content | 20:49 |
gevaerts | Technically you could have more cookies | 20:49 |
SRabbelier | kblin: 960 css | 20:50 |
SRabbelier | kblin: it means the screen works at 1024x768 | 20:50 |
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kblin | SRabbelier: yes, but last I checked css could work with % :) | 20:50 |
SRabbelier | kblin: also, having a lot of content on a wide screen doesn't necessarily make for better reading | 20:50 |
orcuna | SRabbelier: hi, i'm writing tests for accept_proposals, i have a question, i a students accepts for one proposal, other proposal is set to rejected right? | 20:53 |
SRabbelier | orcuna: yeah | 20:53 |
orcuna | SRabbelier: All messages sent: | 20:54 |
orcuna | Sender: "[email protected]" | 20:54 |
orcuna | To: "[email protected]" | 20:54 |
orcuna | Subject: "Congratulations!" | 20:54 |
orcuna | TextBody: "" | 20:54 |
orcuna | HtmlBody: "\n<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC \"-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01//EN\"" | 20:54 |
orcuna | Sender: "[email protected]" | 20:54 |
orcuna | To: "[email protected]" | 20:54 |
orcuna | Subject: "Thank you for applying to ghost" | 20:54 |
orcuna | TextBody: "" | 20:54 |
SRabbelier | orcuna: okay? | 20:54 |
gevaerts | What? html-only mail? | 20:55 |
orcuna | SRabbelier: it says reject email is sent to accepted user also | 20:55 |
kblin | having the proposal title that spans 15 lines that are 2 cm each isn't terribly readable either | 20:55 |
SRabbelier | kblin: word | 20:55 |
SRabbelier | gevaerts: no | 20:55 |
SRabbelier | gevaerts: when sent like that GAE automatically creates a text-only version | 20:55 |
gevaerts | Ah, ok | 20:55 |
gevaerts | That's better :) | 20:55 |
orcuna | SRabbelier: if an user has 1 of 2 accepted mails, i think no reject mail should be sent | 20:56 |
* gevaerts wants multipart-alternative LaTeX/postscript emails! | 20:56 | |
SRabbelier | orcuna: yes, a student should only ever receive 1 email | 20:56 |
* SRabbelier points gevaerts to the nearest window he can jump out of | 20:56 | |
kblin | SRabbelier: hang on, obfuscated a screenshot to not give my current acceptance list away | 20:56 |
gevaerts | SRabbelier: I meant in general, not from melange! | 20:57 |
SRabbelier | kblin: just /query it | 20:57 |
orcuna | SRabbelier: yes, but it sends multiple emails | 20:57 |
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kblin | SRabbelier: http://kblin.org/art/screenshots/melange.png | 20:58 |
SRabbelier | orcuna: sounds like a bug | 20:58 |
orcuna | SRabbelier: and another strange point it sends multiple reject mails for every rejected proposals | 20:58 |
kblin | already done gimping it | 20:58 |
* DrJoel wonders if there is anyway to know if we have students who have applied to multiple orgs.. even if no dupes at this point | 20:58 | |
SRabbelier | kblin: disable some columns? | 20:58 |
SRabbelier | DrJoel: no, why do you care anyway | 20:58 |
orcuna | SRabbelier: it send mail per proposal, ok i will try to find the bug | 20:59 |
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SRabbelier | orcuna: the bug is probably a lack of not checking | 20:59 |
SRabbelier | **a lack of | 20:59 |
DrJoel | SRabbelier: Already solved one dupe.. just curious if another was even possible. You can't have a dupe if students only applied to your org | 20:59 |
orcuna | SRabbelier: not checking what? | 21:00 |
kblin | SRabbelier: that's not my point | 21:00 |
kblin | the only thing I can turn off is the "score", because average score is more meaningful | 21:00 |
SRabbelier | kblin: fine, fine, mailing ED | 21:01 |
SRabbelier | kblin: is that screenshot going to stay up? | 21:01 |
kblin | sure | 21:01 |
kblin | it's not only melange, this seems to be a common trend for all web designers | 21:02 |
SRabbelier | kblin: ok | 21:02 |
SRabbelier | orcuna: not checking if the student has an accepted proposal already | 21:02 |
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kblin | it's just even more annoying if your data is cramped and half your screen stays empty | 21:02 |
SRabbelier | yes it is | 21:03 |
orcuna | SRabbelier: yes, but it should check if the student has already received reject email if all proposals rejected, too | 21:04 |
SRabbelier | orcuna: yup | 21:04 |
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kblin | orcuna: just don't send a "you've been accepted" email to rejected students again :) | 21:05 |
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orcuna | kblin: that would be worst :) | 21:08 |
kblin | we had that before, wasn't pretty.. | 21:09 |
kblin | I think that was in 2007 or 2006 | 21:09 |
kblin | pre-melange | 21:09 |
SRabbelier | kblin: yeah | 21:10 |
orcuna | orcuna: hehe :) everybody must be pissed off | 21:11 |
SRabbelier | orcuna: they weren't happy, no :) | 21:11 |
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gevaerts | Well, they were, for a short time | 21:12 |
kblin | :) | 21:12 |
SRabbelier | orcuna: apparently this is the way we've always done it | 21:21 |
SRabbelier | orcuna: you get 1 email per proposal | 21:21 |
orcuna | SRabbelier: should it change now? | 21:22 |
SRabbelier | orcuna: nah, it's fine as is I suppose | 21:22 |
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orcuna | SRabbelier: ok, i'm supposing this for tests | 21:23 |
SRabbelier | orcuna: sgtm | 21:24 |
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kblin | oh wow | 21:36 |
kblin | that's really some tough luck for the last person to post on the melange list | 21:36 |
kblin | but I totally understand why the HU can't select a student with that link_id | 21:37 |
SRabbelier | kblin: yeah | 21:37 |
kblin | there's so many valkyres in Wagner's works, and she picks the one that denotes the SS sign | 21:37 |
kblin | those asshats have ruined so much of the german mythology :/ | 21:38 |
SRabbelier | kblin: otoh, a little forethought and knowledge of history never hurt anyone | 21:39 |
kblin | yeah | 21:40 |
orcuna | i finished test http://pastebin.com/5z41de43 | 21:52 |
tpb | Title: [Diff] diff -r b96aed6732cd tests/new_views/test_accept_proposals.py --- /dev/null T - Pastebin.com (at pastebin.com) | 21:52 |
orcuna | should i share as inline at mailing list? | 21:52 |
SRabbelier | orcuna: yup, attachment too | 21:55 |
SRabbelier | orcuna: wow, looks like you really got the hang of our test infrastructure | 21:57 |
_wolf_ | SRabbelier, is the column selection and that stuff bound to some cookie? | 22:00 |
SRabbelier | _wolf_: yes | 22:01 |
_wolf_ | SRabbelier, ack | 22:01 |
_wolf_ | Any plans on saving it to the profile? | 22:02 |
SRabbelier | _wolf_: oh you complicated and difficult person :P | 22:02 |
_wolf_ | ;) | 22:03 |
_wolf_ | I don't want to repeat tasks | 22:03 |
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SRabbelier | _wolf_: shouldn't be _that_ hard I suppose, otoh, shouldn't be that hard for you to do a one-time setting | 22:03 |
_wolf_ | once for each browser, mind you. I'm juggling 3 laptops ;) | 22:03 |
_wolf_ | or 2 laptops and a desktop | 22:03 |
SRabbelier | _wolf_: still, that's only two extra | 22:09 |
_wolf_ | Ok I surrender :D | 22:09 |
_wolf_ | It's not worth filing a FR even, so I can't expect you to implement it | 22:09 |
SRabbelier | heh | 22:10 |
_wolf_ | thanks for the info though | 22:10 |
_wolf_ | I'll rather request something worth while, like custom columns | 22:11 |
_wolf_ | any ETA on that? | 22:11 |
_wolf_ | s,custom columns,org specific columns, | 22:11 |
SRabbelier | _wolf_: that's a troll right? | 22:13 |
SRabbelier | _wolf_: (since we've had custom columns for a week now :P) | 22:14 |
_wolf_ | SRabbelier, no it's me being an ass who hasn't read the change log. | 22:14 |
_wolf_ | Thanks!!! | 22:15 |
SRabbelier | _wolf_: *pat pat*, sorry to hear that | 22:15 |
SRabbelier | _wolf_: you've been missing out | 22:15 |
_wolf_ | **iihaaw** | 22:15 |
_wolf_ | indeedo! | 22:15 |
_wolf_ | ok I'll go read the changelogs and see if I can spot how to activate it | 22:15 |
SRabbelier | hehe | 22:16 |
orcuna | SRabbelier: thanks :) | 22:16 |
SRabbelier | orcuna: thank _you_ :) | 22:16 |
SRabbelier | _wolf_: (hint, check the bottom of the org profile page) | 22:16 |
_wolf_ | :D | 22:17 |
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SRabbelier | _wolf_: you sir, are most kind ^^ | 22:18 |
_wolf_ | SRabbelier, ok now I'm confused. Our profile page ends with the template | 22:19 |
_wolf_ | then after that we have the melange footer | 22:19 |
SRabbelier | _wolf_: url? | 22:20 |
_wolf_ | http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/org/google/gsoc2011/osgeo | 22:20 |
tpb | <http://ln-s.net/8kHc> (at www.google-melange.com) | 22:20 |
SRabbelier | _wolf_: that's not your profile page, that's your org homepage, click edit | 22:20 |
_wolf_ | nvr mind | 22:20 |
_wolf_ | I need to edit it | 22:20 |
SRabbelier | yup | 22:20 |
_wolf_ | thx and sorry to bug ya | 22:20 |
SRabbelier | _wolf_: np at all | 22:21 |
_wolf_ | oohhh! This is soo nice!! :D | 22:23 |
SRabbelier | _wolf_: hehe, that'll teach you not to read the Changelog :P | 22:23 |
_wolf_ | indeed! I've read the ones from this week I think. Annoying busy life and work.... | 22:24 |
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SRabbelier | _wolf_: allright, I'm off then, just email if anything comes up :) | 22:30 |
_wolf_ | will do | 22:30 |
_wolf_ | sleep well | 22:30 |
_wolf_ | or whatever :) | 22:30 |
SRabbelier | yes, bed :P | 22:30 |
_wolf_ | hmpf, it's not saving it :( | 22:32 |
SRabbelier | _wolf_: oh? you hitting enter? | 22:32 |
_wolf_ | yes | 22:32 |
_wolf_ | and when I sort it vanishes! | 22:33 |
_wolf_ | should I file a bug? | 22:33 |
SRabbelier | _wolf_: heh, did you set the dropdown to one org? | 22:33 |
_wolf_ | I only have one org | 22:34 |
SRabbelier | _wolf_: hm, weird, try clearing yoru cookies I suppose | 22:34 |
_wolf_ | ok they came back after refresh | 22:34 |
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_wolf_ | and now sorting workses! | 22:35 |
SRabbelier | _wolf_: ok, how about saving? :P | 22:35 |
_wolf_ | yup, did that | 22:35 |
SRabbelier | _wolf_: so it's working now? | 22:36 |
_wolf_ | but then when I sorted all data vanished until I refreshed the table | 22:36 |
_wolf_ | yes it's working | 22:36 |
_wolf_ | go, sleeep | 22:36 |
_wolf_ | you are feeling sleeeepyyyyy | 22:36 |
* _wolf_ also goes to sleep | 22:36 | |
SRabbelier | woooh | 22:37 |
SRabbelier | g'night :D | 22:37 |
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_wolf_ | g'nite :D | 22:37 |
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