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bipul | I am having problems with importing md5 and sha while running melange (python2.6) | 05:37 |
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bipul | i have used from hashlib import md5 and from hashlib import sha1 | 05:38 |
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ratul | hi everyone! | 16:23 |
ratul | Can someone discuss about GCI (other than madrazr, whom I personally disturb very often :P) | 16:24 |
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madrazr | ratul: what do you want to know about GCI? | 16:48 |
ratul | madrazr: I want to know about the changes that GCI module is undergoing | 16:51 |
madrazr | ratul: GCI module is not undergoing any changes | 16:52 |
ratul | madrazr: or it is plannig to go under | 16:52 |
madrazr | ratul: at least not at the moment | 16:52 |
madrazr | ratul: for that you need to look at the changes GSoC module is undergoing | 16:52 |
madrazr | ratul: we want to implement the new Views architecture for all the modules | 16:52 |
madrazr | ratul: esp starting with GCI | 16:52 |
ratul | madrazr: how to get the patches/ changes that is going on? | 16:54 |
madrazr | ratul: our default source repository | 16:54 |
madrazr | ratul: the main repository is up to date, in line with all the changes we are making | 16:54 |
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ratul | madrazr: I understood that GCI (actually melange too) is all about using django and appengine to make the platform for GCI program. | 16:58 |
ratul | madrazr: But I would love to see what is happening using the GCI module | 16:59 |
ratul | madrzr: What I mean is that I want to implement the GCI module and change/tweak parts of it, run it and play with it. Can u please guide how to do that? | 17:00 |
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madrazr | ratul: GCI module is enabled by default in the Melange that you have | 17:03 |
madrazr | ratul: if you want to play with it | 17:03 |
madrazr | ratul: create GCI program, GCI orgs, GCI org admins, GCI mentors, GCI students also create GCI Tasks | 17:04 |
madrazr | check how task work flow actually works | 17:04 |
madrazr | and so on | 17:04 |
madrazr | ratul: before that understand what GCI program is | 17:04 |
ratul | madrzr: please please make a demo, by html/simple text or by video. no need for it to be official. just very simple one so that I can dive in. know it is bad to ask for things like that, but please! | 17:07 |
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ratul | madrazr: I am really sorry if I have demanded much and what I don't deserve. | 17:33 |
madrazr | ratul: why are you feeling sorry? | 17:33 |
madrazr | ratul: you have not demanded much | 17:33 |
madrazr | ratul: if I have time, I will definitely do that | 17:33 |
ratul | madrazr: that is so kind of u! thanks!! | 17:34 |
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slingshot316 | madrazr: hey ! | 17:36 |
madrazr | slingshot316: Hi | 17:37 |
slingshot316 | madrazr: how are you ? | 17:38 |
madrazr | slingshot316: I am doing good | 17:38 |
madrazr | slingshot316: how are you? | 17:38 |
slingshot316 | madrazr: i've been good too | 17:38 |
slingshot316 | thank you | 17:38 |
madrazr | slingshot316: introducing you to ratul | 17:38 |
madrazr | ratul: introducing you to slingshot316 | 17:38 |
madrazr | :) | 17:38 |
madrazr | you guys might know each other | 17:38 |
slingshot316 | madrazr: pratul ? | 17:38 |
madrazr | slingshot316: cool! | 17:38 |
slingshot316 | ratul: hey :) | 17:39 |
ratul | slingshot316: hi! | 17:39 |
slingshot316 | madrazr: when i login, should i check the login as adminstrator? | 17:40 |
madrazr | slingshot316: depends on what you are doing, but not always | 17:40 |
slingshot316 | ratul: hi! I'm selwyn jacob from vizag | 17:40 |
slingshot316 | madrazr: okay | 17:40 |
ratul | slingshot316: I am Ratul (currently) from Chennai. I am sorry, but do I know u? | 17:41 |
madrazr | ratul: "I said you might". Because I know both of you from the same event :) | 17:42 |
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slingshot316 | ratul: er, m not sure may be we met at scipy 2010 | 17:43 |
ratul | madrazr: wow! I was (and is) really sorry I could not meet everyone personally at scipy.in | 17:43 |
ratul | slingshot316: nice to meet u! how r u doing? | 17:44 |
slingshot316 | ratul: doing good , thank you and you ? | 17:44 |
ratul | slingshot316: nice! struggling a bit understanding melange. R u with melange for long? | 17:45 |
slingshot316 | ratul: no not really, i'm new too | 17:48 |
slingshot316 | ratul: how far have you come? | 17:48 |
slingshot316 | madrazr: i'm working on a web app like pastebin and now i'm planing to deploy it on app enigine | 17:49 |
ratul | slingshot316: just understood what it does and what it uses. far from testing and properly understanding the full source code | 17:49 |
ratul | slingshot316: what about u? | 17:49 |
slingshot316 | ratul: more or less the same :) | 17:50 |
slingshot316 | ratul: so what do you do? | 17:50 |
ratul | slingshot316: student of 2nd yr B.Sc in Maths and Comp Science in CMI. u? | 17:51 |
madrazr | ratul: just a warning | 17:51 |
madrazr | it is full 2 years since I first sent my patch to Melange | 17:52 |
madrazr | I have been through most of the coding stages, I still keep asking questions about the code base of Melange to other developers | 17:52 |
slingshot316 | ratul: b.tech 3rd year :) | 17:52 |
madrazr | ratul: implying, I have not understood the full code base yet | 17:52 |
madrazr | slingshot316: nice, how is this different from other services? | 17:53 |
ratul | madrzr: that is scary. :) I would try to concentrate on functionality rather than understanding the source code fully | 17:54 |
slingshot316 | madrazr: this like whoa!! google infrastructure for free is like wow... but it did take me some time to understand the Big Table as i never used non relational database before | 17:55 |
slingshot316 | madrazr: i heard there are three instances of any app that runs on app engine, so if one is down, the others will be up | 17:55 |
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madrazr | ratul: sure | 17:56 |
madrazr | ratul: starting to work on a patch is the fastest way to go | 17:57 |
madrazr | without encountering an accident | 17:57 |
ratul | slingshot316: congrats! | 17:57 |
madrazr | :) | 17:57 |
madrazr | slingshot316: welcome to cloud computing :) | 17:57 |
ratul | madrazr: :) | 17:57 |
slingshot316 | madrazr: thank you, its awesome i must say | 17:58 |
slingshot316 | ratul: congrats for? | 17:58 |
ratul | slingshot316: starting such web app. but how it is different from pastebin? | 17:59 |
slingshot316 | ratul: well, its not really very different but i'm trying to put some social features to it | 18:00 |
ratul | slingshot316 : like? | 18:00 |
slingshot316 | ratul: and then bookmarks and ratings to each paste | 18:00 |
slingshot316 | ratul: like we have users and friends | 18:01 |
slingshot316 | :) | 18:01 |
ratul | slingshot316: pastebin was almost for code snippets pasting only. why should I be commenting on/ like them? | 18:02 |
ratul | slingshot316: or rate them? | 18:02 |
slingshot316 | ratul: for you and others to know how better your code is | 18:04 |
slingshot316 | ratul: and comments to get suggestions/critics from ppl | 18:04 |
slingshot316 | ratul: thats how your code gets better right? | 18:04 |
madrazr | slingshot316: wow! interesting | 18:04 |
ratul | slingshot316: ya, it looks interesting. how much u have got? | 18:05 |
slingshot316 | madrazr: thank you, but the thing is i'm half way down and so now i need to come back to scratch and start using datastore instead of django's orm | 18:06 |
ratul | slingshot316 : upto how much? | 18:06 |
slingshot316 | madrazr: but i think its worth the effort | 18:06 |
slingshot316 | ratul: i got the models and the views for the snippets, categories and tags.. working on the social features | 18:07 |
ratul | slingshot316: one question. does apps by google app engine have any restriction about browsers? does it run on IE 6? :P | 18:08 |
ratul | slingshot316 : awesome! | 18:08 |
madrazr | slingshot316: you need not, check django-nonrel by All Buttons Pressed guys | 18:11 |
madrazr | ratul: it runs on any browser that can read an HTTP response :) | 18:12 |
madrazr | ratul: and all the browser I ever know (from Netscape which started in 1995) have been designed to just do that (And a bit more like Javascript and CSS) | 18:12 |
ratul | madrazr : as I was saying u earlier, I am trying a calendar based app for my college. google app engine and/or django is one of my choice. | 18:14 |
ratul | madrazr: but I feel my college admin would like something independent of google's domain. | 18:15 |
ratul | madrazr: python got some calender module to work seamlessly with dates and all. Is there anything you all can suggest? | 18:16 |
ratul | slingshot316: to u too. :) | 18:16 |
madrazr | ratul: Melange runs on www.google-melange.com | 18:17 |
madrazr | ratul: independent of appengine domain :) | 18:18 |
ratul | madrazr: that I know :) but does it uses google's db? | 18:18 |
madrazr | ratul: yeah sure | 18:18 |
madrazr | ratul: http://code.google.com/appengine/docs/domain.html | 18:19 |
tpb | <http://ln-s.net/8Zmy> (at code.google.com) | 18:19 |
ratul | madrazr: that is where they can have a problem, and me a headache. | 18:19 |
madrazr | you can read up the docs on running appengine apps on your custom domain | 18:19 |
madrazr | ratul: why do they have a problem | 18:19 |
madrazr | it is less headache | 18:19 |
madrazr | you need bother about data store maintenance | 18:19 |
madrazr | appengine does it for you | 18:20 |
slingshot316 | madrazr: just saw that, thank you | 18:21 |
ratul | madrazr: but I want to integrate it to the mailing list and users of my college. ie everyone would sign in using college id and see according to their position. is it possible to integrate them? | 18:21 |
madrazr | ratul: may be you can, but I am not sure what kind of authentication mechanism your University is using | 18:22 |
ratul | madrazr: ok | 18:23 |
madrazr | Ok guys, I think I need to have some food at least now | 18:24 |
madrazr | see you guys in a while | 18:24 |
ratul | madrazr: one question about GSoC ideas. does tesing means using the unittest module and write | 18:24 |
madrazr | ratul: yes | 18:24 |
ratul | madrazr: ok | 18:24 |
slingshot316 | madrazr: the gosc ideas list is out? | 18:24 |
madrazr | slingshot316: nope not yet | 18:24 |
ratul | slingshot316: it is almost :) | 18:24 |
madrazr | ratul: that list is not official | 18:25 |
ratul | slingshot316 : not for google | 18:25 |
slingshot316 | madrazr: oh okay | 18:25 |
madrazr | ratul: doesn't that page say that "Content-Draft" | 18:25 |
madrazr | slingshot316: we have a working draft on the wiki | 18:25 |
madrazr | slingshot316: but it is not official though | 18:25 |
slingshot316 | madrazr: oh okay okay | 18:25 |
madrazr | slingshot316: btw guys | 18:25 |
madrazr | ratul: ^ | 18:25 |
slingshot316 | madrazr: thanks for the information | 18:25 |
slingshot316 | madrazr: yea | 18:25 |
madrazr | you are free to suggest your own ideas | 18:26 |
madrazr | you need not restrict yourselves to them | 18:26 |
slingshot316 | madrazr: yea, :) | 18:26 |
ratul | madrazr: what was ^? :-) | 18:26 |
madrazr | ratul: that means to lookup. I meant, I forgot to add your name there | 18:27 |
slingshot316 | ratul: to indicate that the above text was for you too | 18:27 |
madrazr | that info was to you as well | 18:27 |
ratul | madrazr: looks like I have to dig out styles of IRC a bit :) | 18:27 |
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slingshot316 | ratul: so are you planning on the testing part? | 18:33 |
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ratul | slingshot316 : yea I was wondering if I can | 18:34 |
ratul | slingshot316: but it needs a lot understanding the base code | 18:34 |
slingshot316 | ` | 18:34 |
ratul | slingshot316 : ? | 18:35 |
slingshot316 | ratul: yea | 18:35 |
ratul | slingshot316: have u ever been in SoC? | 18:35 |
slingshot316 | ratul: if you've written tests before then it should be fairly moderate | 18:35 |
slingshot316 | ratul: no, i haven't been and you | 18:36 |
ratul | slingshot316 : I am newbie in writing testing. I am learning testing as I am working as a TA in python in my univ | 18:36 |
ratul | slingshot316: no I have not | 18:36 |
slingshot316 | ratul: thats nice | 18:37 |
ratul | slingshot316: thanks | 18:37 |
slingshot316 | ratul: i gotta leave now, my eyes are giving awayy | 18:38 |
ratul | slingshot316 : :) good night! | 18:38 |
slingshot316 | ratul: bye man, nice talking to you and all the best.. see you around :) | 18:38 |
ratul | slingshot316: r u coming in kde.in/conf? | 18:39 |
slingshot316 | ratul: no i'm not | 18:39 |
ratul | slingshot316 : ok. nice talking to u too! see u! | 18:39 |
slingshot316 | ratul: i use awesome and is a big fan of it, dont really like kde so wont be attending | 18:40 |
ratul | slingshot316: wow! | 18:40 |
slingshot316 | ratul: bye | 18:40 |
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LetterRip | hi all, any idea why i would get 'This link ID is in wrong format.' | 22:44 |
LetterRip | for the field Backup Admin (Link ID): | 22:44 |
LetterRip | it is exactly the same as my 2009 form | 22:44 |
LetterRip | nevermind it looks like i had somehow added extra spaces | 22:47 |
LetterRip | probably clearer error message would be good | 22:47 |
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