Tuesday, 2010-04-06

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MatthewWilkesdurin42: FYI, the buildbot seems to be using python2.6 not 2.502:56
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klicare you suppose to get AttributeError when you run python bootstrap.py?04:24
MatthewWilkesklic: Of course not ;)04:27
MatthewWilkesWhole traceback please?04:27
klicTraceback (most recent call last):04:29
klicFile "bootstrap.py", line 44, in <module>04:29
klicws.find(pkg_resources.Requirement.parse('setuptools')).location04:29
klicAttributeError: 'NoneType' object has no attribute 'location'04:29
klicand i'm using ubuntu 9.1004:30
MatthewWilkessounds like a dodgy version of setuptools installed globally04:35
MatthewWilkesklic: Try looking at https://bugs.launchpad.net/zc.buildout/+bug/158756 - seems to be the same bug04:37
tpb<http://ln-s.net/5_2s> (at bugs.launchpad.net)04:37
klicI see04:38
klicany quickfix you can think of?04:39
klicnvm i'll just recompile python04:40
klicbtw how long should it take for a C/C++ programmer to learn python04:43
MatthewWilkesklic: It's only a guess, but I'd try something like easy_install -U distribute04:43
General_Fou_Fouklic: I started out as a C/C++ programer and it didn't take me long to learn python04:43
MatthewWilkesI dunno, I don't remember it taking me very long.  The language itself is very simple but the stdlib is huge in comparison04:43
General_Fou_Fouit kinda reminds me a lot of Ruby04:43
MatthewWilkesyou'll still find cool new things in there 3 years down the line after getting productive very fast04:43
MatthewWilkesGeneral_Fou_Fou: Aaaargh, I'm meeeelting04:43
MatthewWilkesThe 'r' word?!04:44
General_Fou_Fouhaha04:44
MatthewWilkesIt's such an ugly language, you can tell it was made by Perl devs04:44
General_Fou_FouI hang out with a bunch of 'r' word enthusiasts04:44
kliclol, i heard about all sorts of bad things about perl04:45
klicthough i never really tried04:46
klicthere's a course that teaches perl at my uni04:46
General_Fou_FouI try to avoid programing language battles if I can help it04:46
General_Fou_FouBut Python shouldn't be too hard to learn the basics04:46
klicic, it's probably isn't gonna be the syntax, but the libraries04:46
MatthewWilkesklic: I very much recommend http://diveintopython.org/toc/index.html04:52
tpbTitle: Dive Into Python (at diveintopython.org)04:52
MatthewWilkesklic: Most of the stuff in Melange is Django or app engine rather than python standard libraries, I think04:53
klicand it seems like the python standard libraries need a LOT of work too05:02
klic'import site' failed; use -v for traceback05:02
klicTraceback (most recent call last):05:02
klicFile "<string>", line 1, in <module>05:02
kliczipimport.ZipImportError: can't decompress data; zlib not available05:02
klicTraceback (most recent call last):05:02
klicFile "bootstrap.py", line 46, in <module>05:02
klic) == 005:02
MatthewWilkesklic: Yeah, I'd say it looks like you've got a pretty badly installed system python05:04
klicindeed05:04
MatthewWilkeslibzip-devel is pretty fundamental05:05
MatthewWilkeszlib-devel, whatever05:05
MatthewWilkesthey confuse me :)05:05
klicyeah, i guess ubuntu was never meant for developers to use05:06
klicand i'm too lazy to look up all the different ways you can ./configure python, i bet one of the options can fix the problem05:07
klicoh well i'll just find a way around it05:12
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svuorelahi. anyone here knows how I change my link-id in the gsoc app ?12:53
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ThomasWaldmannsvuorela: iirc: not at all. if you didn't do anything with it yet, you could create a new account and start from scratch.13:35
svuorelaThomasWaldmann: I haven't done anything for this year, except asking for a mentor approval.13:36
svuorela(I filled the link-id with 'garbage' last year as I didn't know what it was good for)13:36
svuorelaThomasWaldmann: and none of you people in here can do some 'magic' ?13:39
ThomasWaldmannI am no melange dev or admin.13:47
ThomasWaldmannbut a MoinMoin org mentor had the same problem and he started from scratch with a new account13:48
svuorelahow do I close my account, then ?13:48
ThomasWaldmannno idea13:53
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David_SrbeckyMiddle-clicking of student proposal in the table does not open in a new tab (using Firefox 3.6)22:36
David_SrbeckyIs there a way to quickly open several applications?22:36
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