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| emcho | hey folks. I am getting some strange behaviour when I click on an org in the list on socghop. is this a good place to describe it? | 00:16 |
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| emcho | basically, it sometimes forwards to the org home page and sometimes to its profile, and I can't quite figure out why (org name is SIP Communicator) | 00:17 |
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| emcho | oh well, I guess I'll simply remove the home page document link ID from our profile. | 00:43 |
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| feraser | hello everyone | 14:09 |
| feraser | I am a third year computer science graduate and a gsoc enthusiast... | 14:09 |
| feraser | I would like to discuss some queries regarding the summer of code, is there someone who can please help me out? | 14:10 |
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| Merio | Hi feraser :) | 14:12 |
| feraser | Merio: hello :) | 14:12 |
| Merio | Please ask :) | 14:12 |
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| feraser | Merio: I was going through the idea proposals on melange's gsoc profile page, when I came across some very fascinating prospects... | 14:13 |
| feraser | so i wanted to know if it is completely essential to have a background of Ajax, for me to participate in one of the projects? | 14:14 |
| feraser | i am fluent with python, django framework and the frontend technologies like javascript, css etc. | 14:14 |
| feraser | i just haven't had a lot of exposure to ajax :( | 14:15 |
| Merio | feraser: it depends on the project, if you look through the project ideas page, at the end of each idea there is a list of needed skills | 14:15 |
| feraser | yes, and i would like to be considered for the Testing, Code Guru, Code Quality Assurance section | 14:15 |
| Merio | However even if you don't have a strong background on something just let us know and depending on the project that should not be a problem if you have good ideas, a good project proposal, have background in almost all the others skills needed and willing to learn :) | 14:16 |
| Merio | feraser: well then Ajax is not needed for that particular project if you look into the "skills" section | 14:16 |
| feraser | i am very much willing to learn any other technologies mentioned on the page... | 14:16 |
| feraser | Merio: I have been working on a pet django project of my own, which is essentially a location based classifieds search service... | 14:17 |
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| feraser | i would therefore like to know more about the requirements for the position of a tester and code quality assurance... | 14:20 |
| Merio | feraser: well, obviously you need to know Python, willing to learn our codebase and have some strong background in testing, as the unit tests you should write should be also a sort of path for us to begin working in a TDD way | 14:22 |
| Merio | feraser: however I strongly suggest to send a mail to our dev list, so all the other developers can join and help you better than me alone (also because I normally focus on the Javascript/Ajax side rather than on the Python code) | 14:23 |
| Merio | madrazr: something more to tell to feraser? | 14:23 |
| feraser | Merio: hmm...okay. could you give me a link to the dev list? | 14:23 |
| madrazr | Merio: just minute seeing last part of the conversation | 14:24 |
| Merio | feraser: http://groups.google.com/group/melange-soc-dev | 14:24 |
| tpb | Title: melange-soc-dev | Google Groups (at groups.google.com) | 14:24 |
| feraser | thank you very much :). Is there anything else I should know before applying for an intern position? | 14:25 |
| madrazr | feraser: Merio has said most of the things, good skills in Python is needed. And good knowledge of writing unit tests is plus | 14:26 |
| madrazr | feraser: also you may have to look at some functional tests and other things. It will be great if you look at all the tests we have in <Melange>/tests directory | 14:26 |
| madrazr | at the moment we don't have many, so you click with this project, you will become a superstar amongst us :P | 14:27 |
| Merio | feraser: well, yes... that's not properly an "intern" position ^_^ | 14:27 |
| feraser | madrazr: okay :). so how do i present my skills to the other developers? or is there going to be some kind of an interview or something? | 14:28 |
| feraser | Merio: Oh :-) | 14:29 |
| madrazr | feraser: well there won't be any interview :) | 14:29 |
| Merio | feraser: you should submit your project proposal through http://socghop.appspot.com | 14:30 |
| tpb | Title: Google Open Source Programs (at socghop.appspot.com) | 14:30 |
| madrazr | feraser: you need read a bit more about GSoC from its FAQ page: http://socghop.appspot.com/document/show/gsoc_program/google/gsoc2010/faqs | 14:30 |
| tpb | <http://ln-s.net/5FJH> (at socghop.appspot.com) | 14:30 |
| Merio | But you might want to discuss with us in the dev list before submitting it | 14:30 |
| Merio | Also I suggest to read what madrazr had just linked | 14:30 |
| Merio | And to look around informations about what summer of code is and how to write a good project proposal and what to do before submitting it (talking about your project in the dev list, etc) | 14:31 |
| madrazr | Merio: also about how to go about during GSoC, reading our blog posts on melange-dev.blogspot.com | 14:32 |
| * madrazr ducks trying to publicize the Melange dev blog :D | 14:32 | |
| feraser | Thank you very much for all the time :). I have already joined the dev list and will checkout the code now.... | 14:32 |
| Merio | feraser: some links you might want to check out | 14:32 |
| Merio | http://wiki.inkscape.org/wiki/index.php/SOC_Writing_Project_Proposals | 14:33 |
| tpb | <http://ln-s.net/5ICa> (at wiki.inkscape.org) | 14:33 |
| Merio | http://shlang.com/writing/soc2005.html | 14:33 |
| * feraser cant thank enough | 14:33 | |
| tpb | Title: Google's Summer of Code 2005: Experience of One Mentor (at shlang.com) | 14:33 |
| Merio | http://www.thousandparsec.org/wiki/Google_Summer_of_Code#Selection_Criteria | 14:33 |
| tpb | <http://ln-s.net/5ICb> (at www.thousandparsec.org) | 14:33 |
| Merio | These are some suggestions on how to write project proposals written by other communities and some years ago | 14:33 |
| Merio | Obviously this is not exactly what we expect, but some suggestions around the Net to show you the feeling of what you're expected to write in the project proposal | 14:34 |
| Merio | feraser: you welcome :) | 14:34 |
| Merio | madrazr: you're right :) feraser, in http://melange-dev.blogspot.com/ you can see what it's expected from you if you get accepted by Melange community, e.g. writing every week about the status of your project | 14:35 |
| tpb | Title: Melange Development Blog (at melange-dev.blogspot.com) | 14:35 |
| feraser | alright, then I'll keep hanging out at the channel for a long time, and I hope to see you guys around :) | 14:35 |
| * feraser grabs at the closest notepad | 14:36 | |
| Merio | feraser: great :) | 14:36 |
| feraser | later then guys :)... | 14:40 |
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| ajuonline | dr__house: o.O | 16:33 |
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| dr__house | ajuonline: whats up? | 17:03 |
| ajuonline | dr__house: howdy? :) | 17:04 |
| * dr__house is back. | 17:04 | |
| dr__house | ajuonline: doing fine. how about you? | 17:04 |
| ajuonline | great :) | 17:04 |
| ajuonline | dr__house: you never sent me that hoodie! | 17:04 |
| dr__house | ajuonline: dude, I don't have any left. One of my juniors had picked up the stuff from my home already :P | 17:05 |
| ajuonline | ok :) | 17:05 |
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| mlankhorst | erm.. melange still has student proposals from last year visible? | 17:27 |
| madrazr | ajuonline: trust me I myself did not get one :( | 17:28 |
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| ajuonline | madrazr: we should both make sure to kick dr__house next time we meet :P | 17:29 |
| madrazr | ajuonline: rather I myself don't have one | 17:29 |
| madrazr | ajuonline: I can do it right away :D | 17:29 |
| ajuonline | madrazr: one from my side as well :D | 17:29 |
| madrazr | ajuonline: tell me if you want? and also tell me what you will give me if I do that? :D | 17:30 |
| dr__house | Ahem.. | 17:30 |
| * dr__house frantically tries to hide himself | 17:30 | |
| neo7 | what did dr__house do? | 17:33 |
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| ajuonline | neo7: he stole trinity from us. | 17:38 |
| neo7 | ajuonline, and whois trinity here referred to | 17:39 |
| neo7 | ? | 17:39 |
| neo7 | lh? | 17:39 |
| ajuonline | nah. the trinity from the matrix | 17:39 |
| dr__house | neo7: I wish | 17:41 |
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| LetterRip | hi I've filed a bug report but will mention it here - I get a server error on attempts to save changes to our google organization page | 17:50 |
| LetterRip | which started happening after updating our tags field | 17:50 |
| LetterRip | with the additional tag of python | 17:50 |
| LetterRip | then tried to add C unsuccessfully | 17:50 |
| LetterRip | and now it doesn't save | 17:51 |
| LetterRip | with any change to any field | 17:51 |
| LetterRip | http://socghop.appspot.com/gsoc/org/edit/google/gsoc2010/blender is our page and here is the report http://code.google.com/p/googleappengine/issues/detail?id=2992 | 17:53 |
| tpb | <http://ln-s.net/5IN5> (at socghop.appspot.com) | 17:53 |
| madrazr | LetterRip: Ouch | 17:56 |
| madrazr | LetterRip: this defect has nothing to do with appengine | 17:57 |
| LetterRip | that is the page it took me too on saving | 17:57 |
| LetterRip | and told me to report it there | 17:57 |
| madrazr | appengine project is distinctly different from Melange project which is just another app which runs on the appengine cloud | 17:57 |
| LetterRip | meadrazr - i thought that might be the case | 17:57 |
| LetterRip | but given that i was given that page to report the bug in | 17:57 |
| LetterRip | i followed directions :) | 17:57 |
| madrazr | LetterRip: is that on socghop the link to file a bug report there existed? | 17:58 |
| LetterRip | yes | 17:58 |
| LetterRip | no wait | 17:58 |
| LetterRip | when i tried to save | 17:58 |
| LetterRip | it gives me the error page | 17:58 |
| LetterRip | and the error page links to | 17:58 |
| madrazr | LetterRip: please file your bug here http://code.google.com/p/soc/issues/entry | 17:58 |
| tpb | Title: Project hosting on Google Code (at code.google.com) | 17:58 |
| madrazr | this is the bug tracker for Melange | 17:59 |
| madrazr | the one where you submitted is for appengine who have nothing to do with the error you are getting | 17:59 |
| madrazr | LetterRip: Also can you please tell me where you got the link to submit an issue there so that I can fix it | 17:59 |
| LetterRip | madrazr - it is the page i'm redirected to when i attemp to save changes | 18:00 |
| LetterRip | it keeps the same page name at the top | 18:00 |
| LetterRip | so no idea where it is | 18:00 |
| madrazr | LetterRip: not sure if I understand why it is so | 18:00 |
| madrazr | LetterRip: but as far as your problem is concerned it is good to file a bug at the place where I linked above | 18:01 |
| madrazr | http://code.google.com/p/soc/issues/entry | 18:01 |
| tpb | Title: Project hosting on Google Code (at code.google.com) | 18:01 |
| LetterRip | yeah will do | 18:01 |
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| madrazr | Lennie or Sverre have the permissions to look at the logs and fix the problem | 18:01 |
| madrazr | LetterRip: unfortunately I don't have access to those logs :( | 18:01 |
| LetterRip | well as long as no one tries and calls the blender foundation we are good :) since the number i used was our old number | 18:02 |
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| madrazr | LetterRip: I did not get you | 18:04 |
| LetterRip | I meant while it is inconvnient the bug - its negative impact for blender foundation won't be immediate unless someone trys to call us since the change i was attempting to make was the phone number field :) | 18:06 |
| madrazr | LetterRip: Oh Ok | 18:09 |
| madrazr | LetterRip: hope your bug will be fixed soon | 18:09 |
| LetterRip | me too :) | 18:09 |
| LetterRip | me too :) | 18:14 |
| LetterRip | here is the bug report in melange tracker - http://code.google.com/p/soc/issues/detail?id=808 | 18:14 |
| tpb | <http://ln-s.net/5IOM> (at code.google.com) | 18:14 |
| madrazr | LetterRip: thanks, we will look at it soon | 18:14 |
| SRabbelier | LetterRip: try using the 'html' edit mode of tinymce | 18:24 |
| SRabbelier | strip all the html crap | 18:24 |
| LetterRip | will do | 18:24 |
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| LetterRip | stripping out the massive amount of <p> </p> allowed it to save | 18:27 |
| LetterRip | now i'm just curious how they all were created :) | 18:28 |
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| SRabbelier | LetterRip: copy/pasting any content to TinyMCE is a recipe for fail | 18:30 |
| LetterRip | SRabbelier: heh well good to know that now | 18:30 |
| SRabbelier | :D | 18:30 |
| LetterRip | thanks | 18:33 |
| LetterRip | ttyl | 18:33 |
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| neo7 | SRabbelier, Copy pasting to TinyMCE, does that mean including the autosave javascript in the form would also fail? | 18:44 |
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| Lennie | hi :) | 18:45 |
| neo7 | Lennie, hi, seems as if you got freedom after a very long time. | 18:47 |
| neo7 | :) | 18:47 |
| Lennie | hehe | 18:47 |
| neo7 | Lennie, still busy ? | 18:47 |
| Lennie | how come :D? | 18:47 |
| * mlankhorst ties Lennie up to the free couch | 18:47 | |
| Lennie | I'm always busy :) | 18:47 |
| Lennie | fixing some issues | 18:47 |
| Lennie | but Google code itself is being bitchy today :) | 18:48 |
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| Lennie | neo7: anything you need me for :)? | 18:49 |
| neo7 | Lennie, ok. cool. App Engine for me seems to be bitchy for me now, I am into the urlopen error and now its not even being answered in the channel as well as the mailing list. | 18:49 |
| Lennie | hmm | 18:49 |
| Lennie | :( | 18:49 |
| neo7 | I was looking at the django used in melange, what dbms is actually used in melange, I can see, mysql and oracle as well. | 18:52 |
| neo7 | Lennie, I was looking at the django used in melange, what dbms is actually used in melange, I can see, mysql and oracle as well. | 18:53 |
| Lennie | None? | 18:53 |
| Lennie | It runs on Google Appengine | 18:53 |
| Lennie | which has its own datastore | 18:53 |
| Lennie | we only use django for forms and templating | 18:53 |
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| neo7 | Lennie, I was hoping so, If somebody tries not to use google app engine then does that mean they will not be able to run melange? | 19:01 |
| neo7 | Lennie, is there any work around for using melange without appengine? | 19:01 |
| Lennie | currently no | 19:02 |
| Lennie | but you might be able to :) | 19:02 |
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| neo7 | Lennie, ok. :) | 19:02 |
| Lennie | a few problems are | 19:03 |
| Lennie | other login system | 19:03 |
| Lennie | since you are not using Google's | 19:03 |
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| Lennie | and of course you need to construct proper queries :) | 19:03 |
| Lennie | for whatever DBMS you are using | 19:04 |
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| tansell-laptop | SRabbelier, ping? | 23:32 |
| SRabbelier | tansell-laptop: pong-ish | 23:34 |
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| tansell-laptop | SRabbelier, was it you who did git-stats ? | 23:34 |
| SRabbelier | tansell-laptop: depends... who's asking? | 23:35 |
| SRabbelier | :P | 23:35 |
| tansell-laptop | me :) | 23:35 |
| tansell-laptop | basically I want something which I can get me summary information about a git repository | 23:36 |
| SRabbelier | tansell-laptop: git-stats could do that for you :P | 23:37 |
| SRabbelier | tansell-laptop: provided that the summary information you want is not that fancy :D | 23:37 |
| tansell-laptop | SRabbelier, I want it in a format I can easy turn into a webpage | 23:37 |
| tansell-laptop | I want things like number of commits | 23:38 |
| tansell-laptop | (in say the last month) | 23:38 |
| SRabbelier | tansell-laptop: hmmmm, I don't think I wrote anything to deal with date ranges | 23:39 |
| tansell-laptop | :/ | 23:39 |
| SRabbelier | sorry :( | 23:39 |
| tansell-laptop | do you know anything about you competitors? | 23:40 |
| SRabbelier | tansell-laptop: heh, you might be off faster just using git-python directly | 23:41 |
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| SRabbelier | tansell-laptop: also, the other git stats might be relevant to your interests, since I think it generates html | 23:42 |
| tansell-laptop | SRabbelier, the problem is it generates butt ugly HTML which is hard to parse or theme | 23:42 |
| SRabbelier | tansell-laptop: mightn't it be easier to modify the way it outputs the html? | 23:43 |
| tansell-laptop | then I have to have a custom fork :/ | 23:44 |
| SRabbelier | tansell-laptop: it's not maintained anyway is it? | 23:44 |
| tansell-laptop | dunno | 23:45 |
| tansell-laptop | Date: Sat Feb 27 00:26:14 2010 +0100 | 23:45 |
| tansell-laptop | that was the last commit | 23:46 |
| SRabbelier | tansell-laptop: oh, then maybe it is | 23:47 |
| SRabbelier | tansell-laptop: poke the maintainer to make it less ugly instead? :D | 23:47 |
| tansell-laptop | ha | 23:47 |
| tansell-laptop | I'm trying to do as little work as possible here :P | 23:47 |
| SRabbelier | tansell-laptop: ah, of course ;P | 23:48 |
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