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zvoase | Hi everyone | 17:59 |
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zvoase | I'm a developer who'd really like to get involved in Melange devel (I'm also an old GHOPer) | 18:00 |
madrazr | zvoase: awesome! | 18:00 |
madrazr | zvoase: welcome! | 18:00 |
madrazr | Welcome to Melange! | 18:00 |
madrazr | zvoase: how would you like to contribute? | 18:00 |
zvoase | I've got a suggestion for the text markup stuff (i.e. Wiki/TinyMCE) | 18:00 |
zvoase | and I'd like to do some coding | 18:01 |
zvoase | Python's my primary coding language, and I develop with Django every day | 18:01 |
zvoase | although I haven't done much GAE stuff, but I'm familiar with the platform | 18:01 |
zvoase | one thing I wanted to talk about was the text markup/HTML sanitization stuff | 18:02 |
zvoase | I'm not involved with the project itself, but I have used (and can heartily recommend) the Python Markdown library | 18:02 |
madrazr | zvoase: that would be cool! | 18:03 |
zvoase | they've recently released version 2.0; it's really clean code (and pure Python), plus I've written a couple of extensions for it so far and it's a dream to work with from both an end-user perspective and from the API itself | 18:04 |
madrazr | zvoase: can you write your thoughts to Melange-dev list if possible? most of the core devels are not around ATM | 18:04 |
zvoase | OK, definitely will | 18:04 |
madrazr | zvoase: great to know! | 18:05 |
madrazr | zvoase: this will be definitely useful to us | 18:05 |
zvoase | no problem | 18:05 |
madrazr | zvoase: thanks a lot for your involvement, hope to see your mail :) | 18:05 |
zvoase | Because to be honest, using TinyMCE to generate HTML from the client side and then just accepting that as input is *really* insecure (although you guys probably know that already) | 18:05 |
zvoase | I'll send it along soon :) | 18:06 |
madrazr | zvoase: cool! | 18:06 |
zvoase | There's also another thing which I've noticed | 18:07 |
zvoase | which of course I'd like to help out on if possible | 18:07 |
zvoase | obviously this will all go in the e-mail to the list | 18:08 |
madrazr | zvoase: cool! whats that? | 18:08 |
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zvoase | basically, in the top-level scripts/ directory there's a mixture of bash/python scripts to do some things that might be needed in the build/deployment process | 18:08 |
Lennie | javascript is always a nice solution :D | 18:09 |
madrazr | Lennie: WB to the channel :P | 18:09 |
Lennie | hi madrazr | 18:09 |
madrazr | zvoase: meet one of our core developers Lennie | 18:09 |
Lennie | o hi | 18:09 |
madrazr | Lennie: Hi ;-) | 18:09 |
zvoase | Lennie: hi :) | 18:10 |
Lennie | I'll try to get Pawel in here | 18:10 |
Lennie | I think the subjects that zvoase is talking about are more up Pawel's alley | 18:10 |
madrazr | Lennie: ah Ok that would be very cool too :) | 18:10 |
madrazr | Lennie: I have also asked zvoase to send a mail about it to the dev list and he has agreed :) | 18:10 |
Lennie | WTB irc client for mac :D | 18:10 |
Lennie | okay | 18:11 |
Lennie | mailing would indeed be best this week | 18:11 |
Lennie | since we are not really "at home" | 18:11 |
zvoase | OK, cool :) | 18:11 |
Lennie | we are having a week full of meetings and a conference in SF | 18:11 |
Lennie | Google I/O ^-^ | 18:11 |
madrazr | and at Mountain View :P | 18:11 |
Lennie | hush | 18:11 |
zvoase | Oh *cool* | 18:11 |
Lennie | I didn't want to brag about that :P | 18:12 |
madrazr | Lennie: he he I knew you would say this :D | 18:12 |
Lennie | but yeah, we are in MTV atm | 18:12 |
Lennie | but it's very quiet | 18:12 |
Lennie | since it's memorial day in the US | 18:12 |
Lennie | so almost everybody is taking a day off | 18:12 |
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madrazr | LoL! | 18:12 |
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madrazr | Lennie: and you took a break too? :P | 18:12 |
Lennie | hmm | 18:12 |
Lennie | this is strange | 18:12 |
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Lennie | damn | 18:13 |
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Guest93191 | great | 18:13 |
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Lennie|MTV | when I switch tabs in safari I get kicked out of IRC :S | 18:13 |
Lennie|MTV | hurray | 18:13 |
zvoase | :$ | 18:13 |
zvoase | I recommend Colloquy as an IRC client | 18:13 |
Lennie|MTV | gonna open this in another browser window then :) | 18:14 |
Lennie|MTV | aha | 18:14 |
Lennie|MTV | ok | 18:14 |
zvoase | if that kind of stuff is happening | 18:14 |
Lennie|MTV | yeah I want a proper GUI | 18:14 |
Lennie|MTV | and something not run in a browser | 18:14 |
Lennie|MTV | if that's possible ;D | 18:14 |
zvoase | yeah, it's a native Cocoa app | 18:14 |
zvoase | open-source too :p | 18:14 |
Lennie|MTV | nice ncie :) | 18:14 |
zvoase | See, I came here because Leslie Hawthorn mentioned Melange devel on Twitter | 18:14 |
Lennie|MTV | gonna open this in a new browser window first brb | 18:14 |
madrazr | zvoase: awesome! | 18:15 |
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madrazr | It is Leslie who does the magic always :P | 18:15 |
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madrazr | Lennie6: tell her if she is around :D | 18:16 |
madrazr | Lennie6: we got a potential contributor just by 1 tweet of her :P | 18:16 |
Lennie6 | meet pawel | 18:16 |
zvoase | Hi Pawel | 18:16 |
zvoase | Btw, I'm Zack | 18:16 |
Lennie6 | hehe | 18:17 |
solydzajs | What's up ?:-) | 18:17 |
Lennie6 | so you saw her tweet? | 18:17 |
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zvoase | yeah | 18:17 |
Lennie6 | can you give me the name of the IRC client again :D? | 18:17 |
Lennie6 | so I can look it up | 18:17 |
zvoase | Colloquy | 18:17 |
zvoase | http://colloquy.info/ | 18:17 |
tpb | Title: Colloquy: IRC, SILC & ICB Client (at colloquy.info) | 18:17 |
Lennie6 | thanks | 18:17 |
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solydzajs | I'm using Colloguy | 18:18 |
solydzajs | :-) | 18:18 |
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zvoase | me too :) | 18:18 |
solydzajs | zvoase: Hi Zack ;-) | 18:18 |
solydzajs | zvoase: so how can I help you ? | 18:18 |
zvoase | solydzajs: Well, I'd like to contribute | 18:18 |
zvoase | and I've already got a couple of things I'd like to help out with | 18:19 |
zvoase | one of them is the text markup stuff (I know there's some debate going on about TinyMCE/Wiki markup, etc) | 18:19 |
solydzajs | yep there is ;-) | 18:19 |
solydzajs | have you joined our melange dev group ? | 18:19 |
solydzajs | google group I mean | 18:19 |
zvoase | Joining now; I was about to write a message to it | 18:20 |
solydzajs | It would be great if you could introduce yourself there and write what do you plan to work on :-) | 18:20 |
solydzajs | not everyone is on IRC all the time ;-) | 18:20 |
zvoase | OK, I will do ;) | 18:20 |
solydzajs | thanks ;-) | 18:20 |
solydzajs | where are you from ?;-) | 18:20 |
zvoase | I'm from London, currently living in Spain though (GMT+1) | 18:20 |
zvoase | I was in the first GHOP | 18:21 |
zvoase | as a student | 18:21 |
madrazr | Lennie: this is awesome ^ | 18:21 |
madrazr | :) | 18:21 |
solydzajs | oh awesome ;-) | 18:21 |
zvoase | Still at high school though :) | 18:21 |
madrazr | solydzajs: Lennie: we can get feedback ^ | 18:21 |
solydzajs | madrazr: yep good ;-) | 18:22 |
zvoase | unfortunately, I can't participate in GSoC :( | 18:22 |
zvoase | but if/when there's another GHOP, I'm definitely going to take part. | 18:23 |
madrazr | zvoase: which project do you contribute to? you said you are a developer right? | 18:23 |
zvoase | madrazr: I'm working on a few open-source and proprietary apps right now, mainly web development stuff | 18:24 |
madrazr | zvoase: cool! | 18:24 |
zvoase | madrazr: see http://github.com/disturbyte for some of my projects | 18:24 |
tpb | Title: disturbyte's Profile - GitHub (at github.com) | 18:24 |
zvoase | oh wow | 18:24 |
Lennie | sorry | 18:24 |
Lennie | visiting microkitchen :P | 18:24 |
zvoase | it gets the titles for you and *everything*! | 18:24 |
solydzajs | zvoase: yep we are preparing for next GHOP | 18:25 |
Lennie | :D | 18:25 |
solydzajs | zvoase: at the end of this year :-) | 18:25 |
zvoase | so exciting! | 18:25 |
Lennie | madrazr is programming GHOP :) | 18:25 |
Lennie | if everything goes well | 18:25 |
Lennie | (no pressure madrazr :P) | 18:25 |
zvoase | as a mentor? | 18:25 |
Lennie | hopefully end of this year idd :D | 18:25 |
Lennie | mentor what...? | 18:25 |
zvoase | in GHOP? | 18:25 |
Lennie | you mean madrazr? | 18:25 |
zvoase | yeah | 18:25 |
zvoase | :) sorry | 18:26 |
Lennie | no ^^ | 18:26 |
madrazr | Lennie: everything will go well for sure :) | 18:26 |
madrazr | thats a promise :P | 18:26 |
Lennie | he's adding GHOP to melange for his GSoC project | 18:26 |
solydzajs | zvoase: nice list of projects :-) good that you are familiar with python and django | 18:26 |
zvoase | OH, right :) | 18:26 |
Lennie | so he's the one making sure GHOP will hapen again | 18:26 |
solydzajs | zvoase: do you know app engine too ? | 18:26 |
zvoase | solydzajs: thanks | 18:26 |
zvoase | solydzajs: I've done a tiny bit of GAE devel | 18:26 |
zvoase | I wrote a (imho) quite cool app | 18:26 |
zvoase | what it does is it allows you to fetch RSS/Atom feeds and load them via JSONP | 18:27 |
zvoase | it uses the Python feedparser library | 18:27 |
solydzajs | zvoase: cool ;-) happy to hear that | 18:27 |
zvoase | solydzajs: http://jsonfeed.appspot.com/ | 18:27 |
tpb | Title: JSONFeed (at jsonfeed.appspot.com) | 18:27 |
zvoase | *really* simple, but it works. | 18:28 |
zvoase | in my opinion, if you have less code, you have fewer bugs. | 18:29 |
solydzajs | great that you want to help out :-) | 18:29 |
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Lennie_ | hmm | 18:29 |
Lennie_ | ping? | 18:29 |
zvoase | pong | 18:29 |
Lennie_ | colloguy :) | 18:29 |
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Lennie | ok | 18:31 |
Lennie | cool | 18:31 |
Lennie | working IRC client :) | 18:31 |
Lennie | thanks zvoase :D | 18:31 |
zvoase | \o/ | 18:31 |
zvoase | no problem | 18:31 |
MatthewWilkes | hi there Lennie! | 18:40 |
Lennie | hi :) | 18:40 |
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Merio | solydzajs: ping | 18:59 |
solydzajs | Merio: pong ;-) | 18:59 |
Lennie | Merio: ? :D | 19:03 |
Lennie | how's Dublin? | 19:03 |
Merio | Lennie: hi ^__^ That's all ok here, even if I'm at home most of the day :P Sunday I went out for a little tourism around for the first time since I'm here :) | 19:04 |
Merio | Lennie: What about SF? :) | 19:04 |
Lennie | ok cool | 19:04 |
Lennie | hmm | 19:04 |
Lennie | haven't seen much of SF yet | 19:04 |
Lennie | that's on wednesday and thursday :D | 19:05 |
Lennie | but MTV seems to be cool :P | 19:05 |
Merio | What have you seen around, apart from G offices? :) | 19:08 |
Merio | Lennie: ^^ | 19:08 |
Lennie | my hotel :P | 19:08 |
Merio | Lennie: wow ^__^ | 19:09 |
Lennie | and the places/restaurants around the hotel :P | 19:09 |
Lennie | this is the first day without jetlag so:D | 19:10 |
Lennie | but I'll manage | 19:10 |
Lennie | G is interesting enough:D | 19:10 |
Merio | Sure it is :P ... Well.. huge jetlag :P | 19:11 |
Lennie | mwah :D | 19:15 |
Lennie | it's okay | 19:15 |
Lennie | Hopefully gone now :D | 19:15 |
Lennie | will have it again when I get back | 19:15 |
Lennie | last time I slept for 20hours :P | 19:15 |
Merio | Lennie: I do almost everyday, so what? :P | 19:18 |
Lennie | hehe | 19:19 |
zvoase | OK, I sent my intro message to the list :) | 19:26 |
solydzajs | zvoase: reading now ;-) | 19:30 |
zvoase | \o/ | 19:30 |
Lennie | too long :P | 19:30 |
Lennie | just kidding :), thanks | 19:30 |
zvoase | np :p | 19:30 |
solydzajs | zvoase: did you join both melange-soc and melange-soc-dev groups ? | 19:30 |
zvoase | Oh | 19:30 |
zvoase | no | 19:30 |
zvoase | Just melange-soc | 19:31 |
zvoase | I'll do the -dev one now | 19:31 |
Lennie | cool | 19:31 |
zvoase | I didn't know there was a separate -dev one. | 19:31 |
zvoase | ah, well. | 19:31 |
solydzajs | ;-) | 19:32 |
solydzajs | happens :D | 19:32 |
zvoase | I wouldn't have been able to post there anyhoo. | 19:32 |
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solydzajs | why ?;-) | 19:35 |
solydzajs | you are :-) | 19:35 |
solydzajs | we changed the rules ;-) | 19:35 |
solydzajs | anybody can post there | 19:35 |
zvoase | oh, right, it still says you have to be a project member on the actual webpage | 19:35 |
Lennie | fail ^^ | 19:36 |
zvoase | do you want me to re-post it on the -dev list? | 19:36 |
zvoase | or just a link? | 19:36 |
Lennie | no general is fine for this :D | 19:36 |
solydzajs | it's fine | 19:36 |
Lennie | it's out there already :D | 19:36 |
zvoase | you probably don't want my introductions cluttering up your commit messages either :D lol | 19:36 |
solydzajs | zvoase: commit messages go to separate group | 19:37 |
solydzajs | zvoase: melange-soc-commits ;-) | 19:37 |
zvoase | solydzajs: talk about organization :) | 19:37 |
zvoase | so what are your initial impressions? | 19:41 |
solydzajs | it would be great if you could work on TinyMCE replacement but we need to discuss what we want to replace it with | 19:48 |
Lennie | markdown is one of those options | 19:48 |
Lennie | but so is some kind of Wiki format | 19:48 |
zvoase | exactly, that's why I said I wasn't going to jump in and start working on it before a decision had been reached | 19:48 |
zvoase | but | 19:48 |
zvoase | Markdown's inline code highlighting is a *very* cool feature | 19:48 |
zvoase | especially for this sort of thing | 19:48 |
solydzajs | regarding Paver I would like to get a more detailed description what would you like to achieve with it other than possibility to run Melange on windows without Cygwin | 19:49 |
zvoase | OK | 19:49 |
zvoase | it's mainly for cleaning up the scripts/ directory | 19:49 |
zvoase | but it's a purely technical thing | 19:49 |
zvoase | What I shall do is... | 19:49 |
zvoase | I'll port the build.sh script over to Paver | 19:50 |
zvoase | so you can see what it's like | 19:50 |
ajaksu | solydzajs, Lennie, zvoase: consider the python-loved ReST too :) | 19:50 |
solydzajs | zvoase: ok sounds good :-) | 19:51 |
zvoase | ajaksu: ReST is very cool, I did some work with docutils for GHOP actually | 19:51 |
zvoase | The only issue with ReST is that it's a bit slower and it's quite 'heavy' if that makes any sense | 19:52 |
zvoase | it's more for making complete documents, for comments it might be overkill | 19:52 |
ajaksu | zvoase: as in usability? agreed :) | 19:52 |
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Lennie | bye bye :) | 21:08 |
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ajaksu | jamtoday: ping :) | 21:14 |
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