Saturday, 2009-01-31

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Lenniehi solydzajs09:34
Lenniehi Merio09:34
Meriohi Lennie :)09:34
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Lenniesolydzajs nice find :P09:54
Lennieyou are doing tos display?09:54
bhyhey! google is broken :-P09:55
MerioLennie yes, going to search a lightbox for jquery09:55
Merioyes we see :D09:55
Lenniethe world is probably in a panic right now :D09:55
LennieI cant find this09:55
LennieI cant find that :P09:55
MerioEvery site would harm your computer, turn off Internet for now on :D09:55
MerioYes, a friend of mine just asked me about that :D09:56
Lenniebrilliant though09:56
Lenniethe whole web is unsafe :D09:56
Lenniewe know09:56
MerioEvery site has switched to some version of Windows Server... the end of the world is near!!09:57
MerioWe need some kind of latex gloves for our keyboard ^^09:58
bhyMerio, regarding to tos, is that okey to use a plain text box?09:59
MerioCan't we just show the HTML?10:01
bhyoh, yes10:01
bhyI was thought about plain text..10:01
bhyis tinymce too heavy?10:02
SRabbelierbhy: what do you mean?10:02
SRabbelierbhy: we're already using TinyMCE, yes?10:03
MerioFor showing that, I think so10:03
MerioI've found this,
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MerioDon't know if i'ts only for the images, will search anyway10:03
bhyso why not just use tinymce to show the tos10:03
MerioLet me see10:04
SRabbelierMerio: how can you search, there is no google! :P10:04
solydzajsyep we can use tinymce in readonly mode10:04
solydzajsSRabbelier: copy & paste works :D oldschool :D10:04
MerioIs there a way to display HTML in "non-editing" mode without loading all the toolbar stuff in tinymce?10:04
solydzajsMerio: don't know, but I think so10:05
solydzajsMerio: tinymce can be customized10:05
SRabbeliersolydzajs: hehe :P10:05
SRabbelierbig cleanup patch coming up10:05
SRabbelierI got sick of the naming inconsistency in base.Logic10:05
Meriohere it is
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LennieI posted a similair picture to the failblog website :)10:06
Lennielets hope they post it :D10:06
solydzajsMerio: nice :-)10:06
Lennieofcourse I wiped my own adress of the picture :P10:06
SRabbeliersolydzajs: sweet :)10:06
Meriosolydzajs: but we still need some kind of cute lightbox10:07
SRabbeliersolydzajs: hhee, :)10:07
solydzajseh Google Search Epic Fail :-)10:07
solydzajsI guess I will switch to Yahoo10:07
solydzajsor Live Search from MS :-)10:08
SRabbeliersolydzajs: you should10:08
SRabbeliersolydzajs: very high quality sites :P10:08
Lennieyahoo >>> ms10:08
Lenniems is soooooooooooooooooooo bad :P10:08
Lenniecan't belive it :D10:08
SRabbelierLennie: it's true10:08
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MerioNah, surely is the whole web which is infected ;)10:09
SRabbelierMerio: probably :P10:09
solydzajsok yahoo works for me :-)10:09
solydzajsno more Google :-)10:09
solydzajsthe day without Google Search10:10
Lenniechange the topic :p10:10
LennieGoogle Summer of Code renamed to Yahoo Summer of Code :P10:10
Lenniedue to failing search engine :)10:10
solydzajshehe :D10:10
SRabbelierQ: How do you shoot a blue elephant?10:10
SRabbelierA:      With a blue-elephant gun.10:10
SRabbelierQ:      How do you shoot a pink elephant?10:11
Lenniethat would be my legendary pink elephant gun10:11
* Lennie thinks somebody has to say it :P10:11
MerioWWF will catch you! Blue elephants and pink elephants are in danger of extinction! :)10:12
Lenniewikipedia can harm my pc10:13
Lennie had pink elephants in it10:13
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Lenniethey made more money then grey ones :P10:14
SRabbelierA:      Twist its trunk until it turns blue, then shoot it with a blue-elephant gun.10:14
Lennieare we talking code reuse here?10:14
SRabbelierLOL, yes :D10:14
Lennielike mangle it untill it fits in your base ;P?10:14
MerioKnol is online? Didn't know that10:14
MerioIf you search for google in google (what autoreferential), google is autoguilting itself for being harmful :)10:15
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solydzajsnice summary :-)10:17
solydzajs"Until Google fixes this bug, it looks Google web search is useless."10:17
bhyit fixed :)10:18
solydzajso! fixed10:18
LennieI can resume my life again10:19
SRabbelierhow long did it take them?10:19
solydzajs30 minutes10:19
Lennieif you count the number of hits google search made in atleast 30 min10:19
SRabbelierLennie: they lost a whole damn lot of money10:20
Lenniethey probably had a billion people mad ;P?10:20
bhyLennie, may I help for the org and mentor sign up works?10:29
Lennieyeah in a few hours the basic views will be up10:30
MerioWhat do you think about this thickbox ==>
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Lenniethen you can do stuff for it :)10:30
MerioSorry, that link doesn't work go here ==> and then search for demo, ajax content demo scrolling content10:31
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solydzajslooks good I think10:31
SRabbelierMerio: cute10:32
MerioOkay, going to import it and make the diff10:32
solydzajssomething like iFramed Content Example 2 ?10:32
bhywould we make the ToS a pop up?10:33
Lenniebhy, nope10:33
Lennieits gonna be displayed directly on the webpage itself10:33
bhyif so, may users just ignore the ToS?10:33
bhyso, what the ThinkBox used for?10:33
bhyit's pretty indeed :)10:34
MerioWell, let's integrate it then it's just a matter of calling it somewhat different10:34
SRabbelierLennie: you bugged the app10:36
Lennieo I did :D?10:36
SRabbelierLennie: go to edit a user10:36
SRabbelierLennie: and hit 'save'10:36
SRabbelierLennie: it'll barf over the date-time field10:36
Lenniedoesnt do that here :S10:36
SRabbelierLennie: create a tos first10:36
SRabbelierLennie: and make sure you accept it :P10:37
Lenniedone that :S10:37
Lennieo yeah10:37
Lenniethere I bugged it ^_^10:37
SRabbelierLennie: ^____^10:38
Lenniebhy, if you want to fix something :D10:38
Lenniewhile I add the org views10:38
Lenniehere's your chance10:38
bhyLennie, what?10:38
LennieSRabbelier found a nasty bug ^_^10:38
bhyokey let me see10:38
SRabbelierLennie: you lazy bum10:39
Lennienot lazy bhy wanted something to do :D10:39
bhyem, indeed :)10:39
SRabbelierLennie: going to commit some volatile code :P10:40
SRabbelierLennie: bear with me :P10:40
Lenniehurray :p10:40
SRabbeliersolydzajs: please test the app10:40
SRabbeliersolydzajs: if you have time to10:40
solydzajsSRabbelier: yep I will sure10:41
solydzajsLennie: what bug did you find ?10:41
LennieSRabbelier did10:42
SRabbelierinstalling new version of pidgin10:42
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Meriosolydzajs: is the GMap patch going to be submitted soon? Just to know how to behave for the diff10:43
solydzajsMerio: yep it will be hopefully today, sorry it takes so long, it's already in my working copy10:44
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SRabbelierdid I miss anything? :P10:45
Meriosolydzajs: never mind, I know you're busy with all the other stuff, it was just for info on what will be available for the diff :)10:47
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SRabbeliersolydzajs: some unreviewed ones10:50
solydzajsSRabbelier: working on it10:51
SRabbeliersolydzajs: awesome :)10:52
Lenniedid you wreck :D?10:52
Lenniesuper(View, self)._onCreate(entity)10:52
Lennieshouldn't it be super(Logic :p10:52
Lennieor did I bug that ;D10:52
MerioSorry for another question: is the thickbox needed somewhere else than the edit profile? i.e.: should I add it to the base.html? Should I add it in the soc/content directory or in the jquery one? So I can insert all the paths to css and images correctly, less work for you :)10:53
Lennieit is10:54
Lenniewe are gonna have a ToS for some roles aswell10:54
Meriook so base.html, what about the directory to put the js in?10:54
Lenniesolydzajs, would know where to put it ^_^10:54
bhythere's ship_street in Role model and shipping_street in Group model10:54
bhyalso res_street and contact_street etc.10:55
solydzajsbase is not a good place10:55
SRabbelierLennie: probably my bad man10:55
bhycould we make them agree?10:55
Lennieres_street and contact_street is a good difference10:55
Lenniesince role is a person10:55
Lenniegroup is a company or something like that10:55
SRabbelierif only GAE supported multiple inheretance in models :)10:55
SRabbelierwe could have them inherit from a Addressee10:55
SRabbelieror something :)10:55
Lenniebhy, you could all rename it to shipping_street10:56
Lenniepersonally I dont mind changing res_street to contact_street just to get our JS working ^_ ^10:56
Lenniebut that's up to solydzajs :P10:56
bhythe background is the address auto-filler10:56
bhyem, yes :)10:57
Meriosolydzajs: so what? :) I saw the user profile inherits from base, should we put the script link everywhere it will be needed?10:57
SRabbeliersolydzajs: should unread be span or div?10:58
SRabbeliersolydzajs: I mean the format of notification, atm it's <b>notification</b>10:58
SRabbeliersolydzajs: it should be <span class="unread">notificaion (1)</span>, or div?10:58
SRabbelierI guess span is for formatting, and div for page elements?11:00
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Lenniewhat comes first in the alphabet :p11:08
Lennieor _ :P11:08
SRabbelierLennie: lemme try what sort says11:10
SRabbelierLennie: _ is last11:10
Lenniety ^_^11:10
SRabbelierLennie: yw11:11
SRabbelierLennie: you can download an ubuntu VM for free you know...11:11
SRabbelierLennie: LOL :D11:13
Lenniecommit message :p?11:13
SRabbelieryes :D11:13
Lennieshit happens :P11:14
Lenniewas an epic fail11:14
LennieI wasnt planning on bringing scope path over at first :p11:14
SRabbelierLennie: ah well ;)11:14
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SRabbelierI am so reverting to an older version of git-svn 0.o11:16
SRabbelierthis one is buggy slow11:16
LennieI'm this years first Org Admin ^_^11:18
Lennienote to self11:18
Lennieadd templates11:18
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MerioIs there a fast way to call only the ToS without the sidebar/header/footer of the whole application? :) tos_link displays the whole page (obviously)11:40
SRabbelierMerio: no, but it could be added to the context, like in user_self11:41
SRabbelierMerio: ask Lennie11:41
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Lenniein the user_edit template11:41
MerioSRabbelier: thanks :)11:41
Lenniethere is a variable called tos_contents or something like that11:41
LennieI use that to store the contents of the ToS11:42
Lennieit's only available in that specific template though :)11:42
Lennie{{ tos_contents|safe|linebreaks }}11:42
Lennieyou should be able to find that :P11:42
MerioOk I use the inline features of the thickbox then11:46
MerioThanks Lennie :)11:47
Lennieyou should put your thickbox on that place btw :)11:47
Lenniethen it will show up above the I agree box11:47
Lenniebhy, it's gonna take a bit longer for the org stuff to be in there11:48
Lenniethere is something about program that needs to be changed first11:48
bhyLennie, i'm working on the ToS bug11:49
Lenniecool :)11:49
LennieI'm just saying :P11:49
bhyis "2009-01-31 16:23:27.173844" a valid date time ?11:49
Lennieto me it is11:49
Lennieit is the output of the datetime :s11:49
Lenniebut django doesnt take it back11:49
Lennieand that sucks :D11:49
bhyem, indeed11:50
Lennieyou might be better of creating your own custom field?11:50
LennieI'm not sure11:50
MerioLennie: the thickbox is working, my only clue is that it will be displayed only in the user_edit.html as you said11:55
Lennieshould be enough for now I think11:55
MerioOk, I'm creating the diff and sending it in the melange-dev mailing list11:57
LennieI'll try to get it in their tonight11:58
Lenniebut I'm very very very busy on orgs and programs ;P11:58
MerioI guess so :)11:59
Lennieit is so :D12:01
Lennieunfortuneatly :p12:01
bhyLennie, how about make it disabled so the value won't submit?12:02
Lennieomg I'm a nuub12:03
Lennieis that possible in Django :D12:03
Lenniecan you make the readonly widget do that?12:03
bhytrying :)12:03
Lennieand if you are truely a king bhy, can you change the widget to display text instead of a fake "you can fill something in here, NOT" field ^_^?12:04
bhyLennie, sorry, what are you meaning?12:05
bhychange it to a plain text widget?12:05
Lennieit now displays a greyed-out field12:05
Lenniebut we want it just to be text12:05
Lennieit should be one of the issues on the wiki or in the issue tracker ^_^12:05
Lennieapparently its not one of the issues12:06
bhyem, we should have a text widget12:06
Lenniebut it should be done anyway :D12:06
bhyplain text widget12:06
Lennieas long as Django then doesnt mind we are not using that value :P12:07
Lenniegood luck on your quest12:08
Lenniebut btw12:08
Lenniewe still need the value to be submitted tbh12:08
Lenniein some cases that is12:08
Lennieit's very complicated, you might be able to change that ^_ ^12:09
bhyso is that able to define a css class12:10
bhyto make a input box looks like plain text?12:10
LennieAn overview of the Organization's outstanding invites.12:11
Lennie10 items per page 25 items per page 50 items per page 100 items per page 112:11
LennieUser Role For Status12:11
Lennielennie Organization Admin google/lennie/gamers group_accepted12:11
Lenniewoot generic code for the win :D12:11
Lenniebhy, I'm no css expert :(12:12
Lennieand dinner is ready12:12
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bhyA question:12:29
bhyonce user agreed ToS, is he or she able to disagree then?12:30
bhyeg. ToS fields is write once?12:30
SRabbelierbhy: write once, yes12:30
SRabbelierbhy: there's an issue in the tracker about that :)12:30
SRabbelierLennie|Gone: ping?12:41
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MerioPatch sent :)12:44
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LennieSRabbelier: pong12:45
SRabbelierLennie: you didn't poke holes at my ACL scheme enough12:46
Lennieluckily you did :P12:47
LennieMerio cool12:52
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bhyLennie, bug fix ready. :)13:22
solydzajsMerio: will look at your patch when I get back from shopping13:22
Meriosolydzajs: ok :)13:23
solydzajsMerio: and will assign you new task :-)13:23
solydzajstalk to you guys in a little bit :-)13:23
Meriosolydzajs: yep ;) Happy shopping :)13:24
bhyLennie, I think there still problem for date and time13:25
bhywe haven't format them when outputting13:25
SRabbeliershould Host be able to edit a document in a user's space?13:28
Lennienot by default13:28
Lennieonly devs can do all right :P?13:28
LennieHosts can see everything from clubs and onward?13:28
SRabbelierok, gotcha13:29
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Lenniehe's gone :P14:16
SRabbelierlol :)14:16
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MatthewWilkessolydzajs: ping?14:32
SRabbelierMatthewWilkes: pong :P14:32
SRabbelierMatthewWilkes: this is Pawel's answering machine14:32
SRabbelierMatthewWilkes: he's out for shopping!14:32
MatthewWilkesSRabbelier: Well, I've been working on commenting, still a bit stuck in django unfamiliarity land14:33
SRabbelierMatthewWilkes: I can help you there :)14:34
MatthewWilkesSRabbelier: I told solydzajs I'd aim to have it done for today, but it's looking like that might slip until tomorrow14:34
SRabbelierMatthewWilkes: ah, ok :)14:34
MatthewWilkesSRabbelier: I'm going to mail the list with a diff of some stuff I've done, I've got comments being picked up by Work instances14:35
MatthewWilkesbut creating them is pretty broken, you need to fiddle with it to get them to appear14:35
MatthewWilkesand the access controls aren't there14:35
SRabbelierMatthewWilkes: ok14:36
MatthewWilkesSRabbelier: I've never felt so privileged to work on Zope, it's so much nicer :P14:41
MatthewWilkesGAE is taking a big mental jump14:42
SRabbelierMatthewWilkes: it is?14:42
MatthewWilkesI think so, it is a matter of taste though14:42
MatthewWilkesyou don't have to worry about fields, you just use the python object14:43
Lenniehi MatthewWilkes :)14:43
Lenniedocuments are undergoing major changes atm :P14:43
SRabbelierMatthewWilkes: ah, I see14:44
SRabbelierMatthewWilkes: that's nice :)14:44
LennieMatthewWilkes: Zope sounds cool14:47
Lennieyour logic looks strange MatthewWilkes :D14:50
Lennie(omg Yoda style :P)14:50
LennieSRabbelier, correct me if I'm wrong14:51
LennieMatthewWilkes: we do all our querying with keynames14:52
LennieMatthewWilkes: so you need to come up with something that defines the comment14:52
SRabbelierLennie: that's right14:52
LennieMatthewWilkes: like the link_id from the user that posted it and the time14:52
LennieMatthewWilkes: for an example look at notificatoins14:52
LennieMatthewWilkes: It uses linkable to set scope to the user and link_id to a number that represents time14:53
LennieMatthewWilkes: that way I can use our keyname querying stuff without having to worry about anything else :)14:54
LennieMatthewWilkes: In your case the scope might actually be the document comments are being made on, if we allow students to submit a melange document for applications that is14:54
LennieMatthewWilkes: it's something to think about :)14:55
LennieSRabbelier: what would you say?14:55
SRabbelierLennie: sounds good, either way14:55
LennieSRabbelier: you would need document scope and id + the user who post his id and the time14:56
Lennieso it might later be expanded to comments on every page where possible :D14:56
Lenniewhich would be nifty :P14:56
Lennieall those fields are already in there I think14:57
Lennieexcept the number for time but that doesnt matter ^_^14:58
LennieSRabbelier: it would be easy to make logic do something like that right?14:58
MatthewWilkesLennie: Yeah, iirc I put a comment there saying it was a silly value?15:00
SRabbelierLennie: if you want every page commentalbe you shouldn't set the scope to a document, unless you mean document page with 'every page'?15:00
Lennieyes I mean document page15:00
Lenniethat's our main communication mode anyway?15:00
LennieMatthewWilkes: yeah probably somewhere, I'm just spamming ideas ^_^15:01
MatthewWilkesLennie: Well, as I say, it's not complete, I just felt bad having said I'd get it done for today and missing that deadline15:01
Lenniethat's Software Engineering :(15:02
MatthewWilkesLennie: By document do you mean Work?  Students will submit a work as proposals and tasks are both subclasses15:02
Lenniework as proposals15:03
Lenniefor GSoC that will be document right?15:03
MatthewWilkesclass Proposal( - that'd be 1:1 with Task in GSoC and many:1 in GHOP, if i understand correctly15:04
SRabbelierMatthewWilkes: mhh, sounds about right15:05
Lennienot completly15:05
Lennieproposal uses quiz15:05
Lennieand response15:06
SRabbelierLennie: those are ancient models though15:06
SRabbelierLennie: they can be dumped15:06
Lenniethat's the problem15:06
Lenniewe'll probably have a student_app model?15:06
Lenniewhich would still contain a melange document I think15:06
Lenniecontaining the 500 word summary :)15:07
MatthewWilkesLennie: Well, Work is just a convenient reference class, if there are issues it's very easy to switch it to base.Commentable or something similar15:07
Lenniework is cool15:07
Lennieif a student's proposal has a document we could still get all teh comments for that document and show them to the org15:08
MatthewWilkesAnyway, got to run, already 10 minutes late for dinner (1.5 miles away)15:08
MatthewWilkesback soon!15:08
Lenniekeyname for comment : <work.scope_path>/<work.link_id>/<comment_author.link_id>/t<time>15:08
Lenniewould be sufficient15:09
MatthewWilkesyeah, that looks unique15:09
Lenniewe'll discuss later15:09
Lenniehave a good meal15:09
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LennieSRabbelier: about Matthew's patch, do you think a StringProperty with choices would be better then just is_public boolean?15:12
LennieSRabbelier: it needs a bit more thinking to be sure we can reuse it and also still use it for our student comments though:D15:13
SRabbelierLennie: mhhh, StringProperty ftw?15:13
Lennieyeah we could just do a stringProperty and just not use it in any other document view if we ever expand on it :D15:14
Lenniewe are writing a custom view for reviewing anyway15:14
Lennieso no harm in setting your very own context :D15:14
solydzajsyo i'm back just 10 more minutes I need to take stuff out of the car15:17
SRabbeliersolydzajs: wb15:18
Lenniedont take out the engine15:18
Lenniethat's a bad idea15:18
SRabbeliersolydzajs: unless its' broked15:18
Lennielol broked15:18
Lenniebroken and borged :P?15:18
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SRabbeliersolydzajs: ready to commit document ACL17:17
solydzajsSRabbelier: ok I will just commit one fi17:19
SRabbeliersolydzajs: what's that?17:20
solydzajsSRabbelier: committed check it17:23
SRabbeliersolydzajs: lol17:24
solydzajsSRabbelier: what do you think ?17:27
SRabbeliersolydzajs: fine by me17:28
SRabbeliersolydzajs: finally committing now17:31
solydzajsok great17:36
SRabbeliersolydzajs: it's committed17:36
Lennieyou forogt comments :P17:55
Lenniedef getMembership(self, status):17:55
Lennieand on that bombshell I'm off ^_^17:56
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