Tuesday, 2008-11-25

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Lenniesolydzajs, alive and well?09:56
Lennieor sleepy :P?09:56
solydzajsI'm fine now ;-)09:57
solydzajsslept till 11:30 today09:57
Lennielucky sob :P09:57
LennieI had to get up at 07.00 ^^09:57
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Lenniehi SRabbelier10:13
SRabbelierLennie: sup10:14
SRabbeliersolydzajs: ping10:14
SRabbelierlh: ping?10:14
SRabbelierLennie, solydzajs, lh: wanna talk meeting times?10:15
Lenniewich meeting?10:15
LennieI wanna watch Heroes ^^10:15
solydzajsMelange Live :-)10:16
SRabbelierLennie: lol, yes, Melange Live10:16
LennieSRabbelier: We have more meetings then that, so ^^10:16
Lennieit seemed like a valid question :p10:16
SRabbelierLennie: heh10:16
LennieSRabbelier: You have the date on distributed systems exam already then?10:18
SRabbelierLennie: I texted you10:18
LennieSRabbelier: As usual I failed10:18
SRabbelierLennie: :)10:18
Lenniepretty good day :)10:18
SRabbeliercould be better though :)10:18
Lenniecant have it all ^^10:18
SRabbeliersolydzajs: when is the first day you can do the meeting?10:18
SRabbeliersolydzajs: tha'ts perfect!10:19
Lennieblehh ^^10:20
Lenniej/k SRabbelier ^^10:20
SRabbelierhow about 05 jan - 09 jan10:20
solydzajsfine with me10:21
SRabbelierLennie: does that suit your scheudle?10:21
LennieSRabbelier: If I'm invited yes :P10:21
LennieSRabbelier: Will pack some books though :p10:21
SRabbelierLennie: same here10:21
LennieSRabbelier: Have to ace it all :P10:21
SRabbelierLennie: you can help me study :P10:22
LennieSRabbelier: shoo :p10:22
SRabbelierLennie: I help you with Melange coding, you help me with the scary maths :P10:22
SRabbelierhow's that for a deal :P10:22
LennieSRabbelier: Throw in a big mac and it's a deal :)10:22
SRabbelierLennie: I'll buy you 210:22
LennieSRabbelier: *cheers*10:22
SRabbelierLennie: and make them into one Super big Mac!10:22
LennieQuadruple burgers ftw :P10:22
Lenniesolydzajs: You are so getting a wrong image of me lol :P10:23
SRabbeliersolydzajs: Lennie is always eating10:23
SRabbeliersolydzajs: he keeps chomping down food all day10:23
LennieSRabbelier: Look who's talking lol10:23
LennieSRabbelier: Sure you aint talking about yourself :P?10:23
SRabbelierLennie: ah, that would be it :P10:23
Lennieanyhow, I think it's up to Leslie to decide where and such :)10:24
Lennieand who :p10:24
SRabbeliersolydzajs: is Chicago good for you?10:24
solydzajsSRabbelier: what are other options ?10:24
SRabbeliersolydzajs: that way during42 can make it too perhaps10:25
SRabbeliersolydzajs: MTV HQ10:25
Lenniedepends on lh, europe might be an option10:25
solydzajsSRabbelier: I would say Zurich or Chicago for now, but tlarsen might make it to Chicago too10:25
Lenniehe should return that same week10:26
SRabbeliersolydzajs: let's go for chicago then10:26
Lennieso it would be nice to bring hium up to date10:26
solydzajsSRabbelier: hehe your gf :P10:26
solydzajsI'm still thinking about Chicago :P :-)10:26
SRabbeliersolydzajs: dude, give me some motivation! :P10:27
solydzajsSRabbelier: ok Chicago it is :P ;-)10:27
SRabbeliersolydzajs: now where is lh when you need her :D10:27
LennieI'm gonan do the dishes and watch heroes10:27
LennieI'll hear about the meeting I guess :)10:27
solydzajsSRabbelier: she will be online later today no worries, wait 1-2h10:27
SRabbeliersolydzajs: ok :)10:28
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SRabbeliersolydzajs: wanna get started on some tests?10:38
solydzajsSRabbelier: right now I need to go thru emails and news10:38
solydzajsSRabbelier: that will take a while10:38
SRabbeliersolydzajs: ok, let me know when you're available; I got the idea you have some sort of test plan :P10:39
solydzajsSRabbelier: ok will do10:39
solydzajsSRabbelier: in the mean time I have bug for you to fix10:39
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solydzajsSRabbelier: since you refactored sidebar menu10:40
SRabbeliersolydzajs: ah, what is that?10:40
solydzajsSRabbelier: side menu is not customized based on your rights, regular user can see Developer menus too, which user should not10:41
SRabbeliersolydzajs: that's feature enhancement10:41
SRabbeliersolydzajs: not bug :P10:41
solydzajsSRabbelier: it's a bug10:41
SRabbeliersolydzajs: fien, fine :P10:41
solydzajsSRabbelier: it was working before10:41
SRabbeliersolydzajs: you want me to fix it before writing tests?10:41
solydzajsSRabbelier: yes please10:41
SRabbelierwont' be tood hard10:41
solydzajsok thank you10:42
SRabbeliersolydzajs: will start on that then10:42
solydzajsawesome :-)10:42
Lennie|GoneSRabbelier: I think I saw an issue about that somewhere :)10:48
SRabbelierLennie|Gone: yeah10:48
tpb<http://ln-s.net/2Vhk> (at code.google.com)10:48
Lennie|Gonehehe todd made them ^^10:49
Lennie|Gonethose are from yesterday then :)10:49
Lennie|Gonejust see what you can clear up of that, I'm happy to see some issues gone :P10:49
SRabbelierright :)10:49
Lennie|Gonetoo cluttered atm :)10:49
Lennie|GoneSRabbelier: If I'm allowed to speak again, Dr Sheldon Cooper for the win :P11:07
SRabbelierLennie|Gone: nope11:07
Lennie|GoneSRabbelier: BBT ftw :D11:07
SRabbelierLennie|Gone: haven't seen it yet11:07
Lennie|GoneSRabbelier: nice ep :P11:07
solydzajsLennie|Gone: SRabbelier: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CWfThAWBO3A11:11
tpbTitle: YouTube - GTUG: App Engine Update and SproutCore presentation (at www.youtube.com)11:11
SRabbeliersolydzajs: -checks-11:11
SRabbelierI'm working on dynamic forms btw11:11
SRabbeliersolydzajs: it's looking good11:11
Lennie|GoneTooltips on forms11:17
Lennie|GoneJavascript right?11:18
SRabbelierLennie|Gone: what do you mean?11:18
Lennie|Gone(I'm creating issues for the stuff that Chris found :P)11:18
SRabbelierLennie|Gone: are you asking if they're written in Javascript/11:18
Lennie|GoneSRabbelier: If Javascript is responsible for showing them11:18
SRabbelierLennie|Gone: afaik, yes11:18
Lennie|GoneThen I'll assign that to dmitri ^^11:19
SRabbelierLennie|Gone: yes11:19
SRabbeliersolydzajs: ok, the sidebar is now being rebuilt on every query11:20
solydzajsLennie|Gone: SRabbelier http://aralbalkan.com/144811:20
tpbTitle: Aral Balkan - Screencast demonstrating the first Google App Engine data export solution (full backup and restore) (at aralbalkan.com)11:20
solydzajsSRabbelier: ok11:21
SRabbeliersolydzajs: fancy11:21
Lennie|Gonenice nice solydzajs11:21
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SRabbelierlh: wb11:33
lhSRabbelier: hi there11:33
SRabbelierlh: Pawel, Lennard and myself would be good with having the first Melange Live from 05 januari - 09 januari in Chicago; how does that sound to you?11:34
lhha ha11:34
lhi was just typing this to you11:34
lhsounds awesome11:34
SRabbelierlh: :D11:34
lhi will propose on the dev list in just one sec.11:34
SRabbelierlh: awesome11:34
SRabbelierlh: is Lennie invited? ;)11:34
lhSRabbelier: is he a committer?11:34
SRabbelierlh: yes he is11:34
lhwell then there you go11:35
Lennie|Gonelh: Yes I am11:35
lhthat would be a yes.11:35
SRabbelierlh: cool11:35
lhi really, really missed you guys while i was away11:35
* lh decides enough with the sappy11:35
SRabbelierlh: we love you too :)11:35
* Lennie|Gone hugs lh :P11:35
Lennie|Gonelh: That means I have to fly to chicago right :P?11:36
SRabbelierLennie|Gone: I'm sure you're devestated11:36
Lennie|GoneSRabbelier: yeah :P11:36
Lennie|GoneSRabbelier: Never been further away then Hungary ^^11:36
SRabbelierhehehe, nice11:37
solydzajslh: hello dear :-)11:37
lhLennie|Gone: that is exactly what that means11:39
lhsolydzajs: hello my dear. :)11:39
* lh was recently in szeged, it was awesome11:39
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SRabbelierlh: hehe, good, you need food ;)11:44
lhi know food is good11:44
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Lennieisn't that SRabbelier's motto :P?11:45
SRabbelierLennie: ^__^11:45
SRabbelierLennie: what can I say, great minds think alike11:46
LennieYou mean you are all lead by your stomach instead of your brain :P?11:46
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MatthewWilkesSo, melange will be finished on the 9th Jan then? :)12:01
SRabbelierMatthewWilkes: YUP! All done! :P12:02
SRabbelierwait, we're not talking about 9th Jan 2010?12:03
SRabbelierok, great12:04
SRabbeliernow I have to check the list of issues to see which menu items need to be hiddne -_-"12:04
Lennie|GoneSRabbelier: It should become easier once the list clears ^^12:06
SRabbelierLennie|Gone: it better :P12:06
Lennie|GoneMy issues are hopefuly quite clear12:06
SRabbelierLennie|Gone: aye12:07
Lennie|GoneI would love some discussions on them ^^12:07
Lennie|Goneespecially feed caching :p12:07
solydzajsSRabbelier: melange finished by 9th of Jan 2009 ?12:14
SRabbeliersolydzajs: yes12:14
SRabbeliersolydzajs: I'm done too, with sidebar12:14
solydzajsSRabbelier: you have to be kidding me12:14
SRabbeliersolydzajs: why?12:14
solydzajsSRabbelier: don't spread fake news please12:14
SRabbeliersolydzajs: oh12:14
SRabbeliersolydzajs: please read what I said12:15
SRabbeliersolydzajs: I thought you meant the meeting12:15
SRabbeliersolydzajs: obviously MatthewWilkes and I were joking :P12:15
solydzajsSRabbelier: ok ;-) heh12:15
SRabbeliersolydzajs: more importantly: sidebar is now dynamic12:15
SRabbeliersolydzajs: with almost no extra code12:15
solydzajsSRabbelier: ok great I need to go to apartment will be back shortly12:16
SRabbeliersolydzajs: ok :)12:16
SRabbeliersolydzajs:  7 files changed, 29 insertions(+), 18 deletions(-)12:17
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SRabbelierLennie|Food: dynamic forms are a fact13:10
SRabbelierLennie|Food: perhaps James Crook's idea's aren't that far fetched after all ;)13:10
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SRabbeliersolydzajs: dynamic forms are a fact13:22
solydzajsSRabbelier: how that works ?13:22
SRabbeliersolydzajs: I'll push13:22
SRabbeliersolydzajs: it's a seperate project13:22
solydzajsSRabbelier: ok will have a look ,did you commit sidebar fix already ?13:23
SRabbeliersolydzajs: http://repo.or.cz/w/Meta.git?a=blob;f=src/meta/forms/dynaform.py;h=4d3fbaef4c15557dd31606bf43e7852a7b5975f0;hb=HEAD13:23
tpb<http://ln-s.net/2Vk3> (at repo.or.cz)13:23
SRabbeliersolydzajs: yes, fixed and committed13:23
SRabbeliersolydzajs: I'm off for dinner, bbs13:23
solydzajsSRabbelier: ok13:23
Lennie|FoodSRabbelier: Nice13:26
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Lenniegood day todd13:43
SRabbeliertlarsen: sup :)13:43
SRabbeliertlarsen: is the list thing ok with you?13:43
SRabbeliererrr, sidebar thing13:44
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SRabbelierlurking? lol13:45
tlarsen|lurkingSorry, but I am working on a spreadsheet that computes how many bags of different types of insulation I have to order tomorrow.13:49
tlarsen|lurkingThe house is very complicated, with a variety of different wall sections that all have different insulation requirements.13:49
SRabbeliertlarsen|lurking: you're doing everything yourself, no contractor to do stuff like that? :P13:50
tlarsen|lurking(This is what happens when you try to bolt modern balloon-frame construction onto a 191-year-old masonry house.)13:50
tlarsen|lurkingSRabbelier: The contractors just fuck everything up.13:50
SRabbeliertlarsen|lurking: heheh, wouldn't know about that13:50
tlarsen|lurkingSRabbelier: I fired the general contractor a year ago.13:50
SRabbeliertlarsen|lurking: lol13:50
SRabbeliertlarsen|lurking: he the one causing all the delays?13:50
tlarsen|lurkingSRabbelier: I hire the sub-contractors myself, plus there are some things that me and my family can do ourselves.13:50
tlarsen|lurkingSRabbelier: installing insulation is one of those things we can do.13:50
SRabbeliertlarsen|lurking: right, such as figuring out how many insulation you need :)13:51
tlarsen|lurkingSRabbelier: yes, he was a complete incompetent.13:51
tlarsen|lurkingWhen we moved to Huntsville in July 2007, I asked him for a firm bid for the remainder of the project.13:51
tlarsen|lurkingI needed that to be able to go and get a construction loan from the bank to complete the project.13:51
tlarsen|lurkingHe dragged his feet until April 2008.13:52
SRabbeliertlarsen|lurking: :-/13:52
tlarsen|lurkingThe bid for the remaining work *exceeded* the money spent so far.13:52
tlarsen|lurkingSo, I fired him.13:52
tlarsen|lurkingI took the binder that he brought containing the sub-contractor bids, and started modifying the scope of work to fit the budget.13:52
SRabbeliertlarsen|lurking: d'oh, what a lamer, he was probably just out to rip you off :P13:52
tlarsen|lurkingSome of his sub-contractor bids were useless.  For example, the drywall company from whom he had a bid was out of business.13:53
tlarsen|lurkingSRabbelier: The company itself was OK, but they would never put a good job supervisor on the site.13:53
tlarsen|lurkingAlso, I discovered, for an unusual house like this, the general contracter would just pass every question from a sub-contractor on to me to answer.13:53
SRabbeliertlarsen|lurking: heh, d'oh13:53
tlarsen|lurkingSo, he was just a middleman and was adding no value.13:53
tlarsen|lurkingWhy pay him a markup when I am doing his job anyway?13:54
SRabbeliertlarsen|lurking: and when he wasn't doing his on top13:54
tlarsen|lurkingAlso, he let the building permits expire by not calling for inspections at least once in 6 months.13:54
tlarsen|lurkingSo, I had to buy new ones to the tune of $2.5K13:54
Lennietlarsen|lurking: ouch, what a fool :S13:55
tlarsen|lurkingAnyway, I've got to go run errands (get pricing on some insulation products from one more local supplier).  So, I might be logged in, but I won't answer. :)13:55
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SRabbeliertlarsen|lurking: sure thing :)13:55
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