Sunday, 2014-02-09

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Yoshi11gah when i try to install the latest debian package it says something about trying to install a nonexistent file10:18
kraeheYoshi11, yes ;-(10:21
kraeheand even worse - a binary for this package is only available for 64bit10:21
kraehebut you can compile it on your own10:22
Yoshi11well i have a 64 bit OS10:22
Yoshi11kraehe: any idea how long till that is fixed?10:26
kraehenope I'm not a dev10:31
kraehebut I wondered about why there is a need for libbullet - the name of the lib sounds more suited for an action shooter10:31
kraeheperhaps a dev can tell for what Orion needs a real time physics engine10:32
Yoshi11hmmmm10:33
Yoshi11is that for real time physics?10:33
Yoshi11could be ship to ship combat10:34
Yoshi11i havent tried free orion in a while10:34
tomreynYoshi11, kraehe: on the production list, does it show where each item is to be produced?10:42
tomreyngeoff tells me one needs to make the window wider if it doesn't, but i'm playing full screen on 1680x1050 and it won't show10:45
Yoshi11tomreyn: i cant install it at present10:47
tomreynYoshi11: what's that error?10:48
tomreynyou could also try the previous build, maybe that works10:48
Yoshi11tomreyn: the deb file tries to install a non existent file10:49
Yoshi11then we cant compare issues accurately10:51
tomreynYoshi11: maybe just repack it then10:52
tomreynhttp://ailoo.net/2009/06/repack-a-deb-archive-with-dpkg-deb/10:54
tpb<http://ln-s.net/AqV4> (at ailoo.net)10:54
Yoshi11i dont even know which file10:57
Yoshi11gdebi isnt telling me10:57
tomreyndpkg -l freeorion\*10:58
tomreynthe ones which start with "ii" are installed10:59
Yoshi11i am not building from source i am using the deb file11:00
tomreynoh i got your statement wrong, you are saying don't know which file it is missing during the install process.11:01
tomreyninstall with "dpkg -i packagename.deb" on a terminal then11:01
tomreynthat should tell11:01
tomreyn(sudo / root needed)11:01
Yoshi11no i am saying gdebi the gui based deb installer is saying the deb file is trying to install a file that doesnt exist11:02
Yoshi11and i honestly cant be arsed enough to go to console11:02
tomreynyeah i got so much11:02
tomreyn(about it saying that)11:03
Yoshi11dpkg -l fails anyway saying no packages found11:05
tomreynbecause they failed to install11:06
Yoshi11i knew that whats the console command to install a deb?11:06
Yoshi11i dont normally install them by console11:07
tomreyn<tomreyn> install with "dpkg -i packagename.deb" on a terminal then11:07
kraehetomreyn, the problem with the current (svn) deb is that it requires a lib that is not part of Wheezy11:09
kraeheYoshi11, http://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=libbullet-dev <- you might try the one from SID11:09
tpb<http://ln-s.net/AqVd> (at packages.debian.org)11:09
Yoshi11kraehe: i am using testing not wheezy11:11
Yoshi11kraehe: the link from jessie says doesnt exist11:13
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Yoshi11kraehe: and the version in synaptic doesnt seem to do it11:18
tomreynit won't be libbullet-dev, he'll be looking for the runtime lib11:20
tomreyni'm not sure which one that is, though11:20
tomreyn(there are several)11:21
tomreyn"dpkg -I package_name.deb" lists the dependencies filed for a given package pre-install.11:24
tomreyn(thats an upper case i as in iris)11:24
Yoshi11oh though it was an l11:31
Yoshi11Depends: python (>= 2.6.6-7~), ttf-dejavu-core, ttf-dejavu-extra11:32
Yoshi11???11:32
Yoshi11is that the nonexisent stuff?11:33
tomreynprobably not11:40
tomreynthis will tell whether these are installed (ii): dpkg -l python ttf-dejavu-core ttf-dejavu-extra11:41
tomreynlast time i checked there were two freeorion packages, one containing the engine, one containing assets / game data11:41
tomreyneither of these may have dependencies.11:42
tomreynttf-dejavu-* are just truetype fonts11:42
Yoshi11they are apparently transitional dummy packages11:42
tomreynand you most likely have a matching python already11:42
Yoshi11ii  ttf-dejavu-core                            2.34-1                     all                        transitional dummy package11:43
Yoshi11yeah i do11:43
tomreynbut without the actual erro message it's just plain guesswork11:43
Yoshi11although my python is amd6411:43
tomreynso unless you can provide that error message there's no way to help you11:44
Yoshi11  p, li { white-space: pre-wrap; }  The package file does not exist11:59
Yoshi11A nonexistent file has been selected for installation. Please select an existing .deb package file.11:59
Yoshi11thats all i get11:59
Yoshi11dpkg installs the freeorion-data part12:00
Yoshi11but not the rest12:00
tomreynthen run: dpkg -i therest.deb12:08
tomreynfor whatever "therest" is12:09
tomreynmaybe there is a blank space in the package filename, making gdebi fail.12:10
Yoshi11huh?12:18
Yoshi11what do mean the rest.deb12:19
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tomreynyou said <Yoshi11> dpkg installs the freeorion-data part but not the rest12:35
tomreyni explained how to install a debian package named "therest.deb"12:35
tomreyndownload the freeorion deb's to a directory of your choice ("<path>"), then start a terminal and use the 'cd <path>' command to  change into said directory. once there, use "ls" to show the directory contents12:38
tomreynthen for every debian package "package.deb" do: sudo dpkg -i package.deb12:38
tomreynif you still get that error copy and paste the entire temrinal session onto pastebin.com, submit it and copy and paste the resulting URL here.12:39
Yoshi11tomreyn: but it does that when i do sudo dpkg -i freeorion-data_0.4.3+svn6822-1_all.deb and i only know that because i looked on synaptic12:39
tomreyndunno, maybe synaptic handles the plus character as a control character for some reason.12:41
tomreynunfortunately with GUI tools you are often limited to guessing what may be wrong12:42
tomreynthat's where a terminal can be quite convenient, since you have reproducible input and output and can thus tell quite reliably what is going on.12:42
tomreyn(at least most of the time)12:43
Yoshi11yeah i resort to them when the gui buggers but i wasnt feeling motivated12:46
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