Monday, 2010-10-04

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Karrdehow does trade go negative?02:18
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GeofftheMediobuild too much stuff with a too high maintenance cost03:18
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CIA-22FreeOrion: geoffthemedio * r3807 /trunk/FreeOrion/ (client/human/HumanClientApp.cpp combat/CombatSystem.cpp):21:07
CIA-22FreeOrion: -Switched some combat code to check and modify ship structure meters rather than health, to hopefully fix issue with ships not being damaged during combat.21:07
CIA-22FreeOrion: -Added debug output to human client app when entering 2D mode to hopefully help isolate crashes when doing so on some Linux systems.21:07
CIA-22FreeOrion: geoffthemedio * r3808 /trunk/FreeOrion/client/human/HumanClientApp.cpp: Tweaked Enter2DMode debug output to only be generated once, rather than once per frame indefinitely.21:14
AndurinoHi, Here you find someone who can guide me in the sense that it is necessary to modify the source code, in this regard.21:15
GeofftheMedio...?21:15
AndurinoI find it difficult finding the information needed to create the development environment21:17
Andurinois like lowering the sources do not know if faults or other 3D graphics libraries and what are these, I know that is the most appropriate editor etc.21:19
AndurinoIn short what is the appropriate development environment21:21
GeofftheMedioconsult this: http://freeorion.org/index.php/Compile21:22
tpbTitle: Compile - FreeOrionWiki (at freeorion.org)21:22
AndurinoOn the other hand I tried using some translations with disastrous results. I have read on the file must be utf-8 latin that gives problems is not the case, however, gives 2 types of failures21:23
GeofftheMedioI don't know what you mean by "utf-8 latin" ... utf-8 can support many characters, including many non-latin characters21:24
GeofftheMediothe russian translation, for example, has non-latin characters21:24
AndurinoThank you very much for that information is exactly what I was looking on the development environment.21:24
GeofftheMediothe only issue is that the first line of the translation needs to be latin characters, for some unknown reason21:25
GeofftheMediothe rest aren't restricted21:25
Andurinofeel unable to speak English directly, I am using a translator. I hope you understand the delay in communication.21:26
AndurinoI mean lang_string.txt files (format) indicates that the wiki must be encoded in UTF-8 right? my files are with the coding.21:28
GeofftheMedioyes, stringtable files need to be in UTF-821:29
AndurinoAnd despite being in that condition, the use of the same are two types of errors.21:29
Andurino1. muestra una especie en enlace roto o mas bien indica la etiqueta pero no es capaz de leer el archivo open_  como ejemplo.21:30
Andurino1. species shows a broken link or rather the label but is not able to read the file open_ as an example.21:31
Andurino2. The application does not start the screen stays black (bottom of window) and empty. The program does not work and you have to kill the process.21:32
GeofftheMediodoes it work with the default stringtable?21:32
AndurinoI have explained, or need any clarification?21:33
Andurinoin eng yes runing21:33
GeofftheMediothere may be some other problem with the formatting of the stringtable file then21:34
Andurinohowever if you change to another and restart the application, to use the application again with eng (default) to reinstall the application21:34
GeofftheMedioI'm not sure what that meant, but you can edit or delete config.xml to reset the stringtable selection if you're unable to do so in the GUI21:35
GeofftheMedioalso, you might check freeorion.log to see if it says something about why there's a crash with your modified stringtable21:35
AndurinoIt is not my modification, are distributed StringTable21:36
GeofftheMediowhich one?21:37
Andurinowhich corresponds to Spanish21:39
Andurinoesp_stringtable.txt21:40
GeofftheMediowhat version of freeorion are you running?21:40
GeofftheMedioin the latest svn, I can start freeorion, switch to spanish, exit, restart to the menu, switch back to english, and exit, without problems21:41
AndurinoI can get FreeOrion in two ways. with lucid 64bit ubuntu synaptic or from http://www.playdeb.net/updates/Ubuntu/10.04/?category=Strategy21:42
tpb<http://ln-s.net/7l9+> (at www.playdeb.net)21:42
AndurinoVersion: 0.0r3258-1~getdeb3  say in playdeb21:43
GeofftheMedioI don't know what playdeb is hosting, but I suggest you download the latest from us directly: http://sourceforge.net/projects/freeorion/files/FreeOrion/FreeOrion%20Version%200.3.15/21:43
tpb<http://ln-s.net/7l9:> (at sourceforge.net)21:43
GeofftheMedio3258 is 10 months old21:45
Andurinoi386 ?? y have a 64bits sytem.... ??21:45
GeofftheMedioI think it's 32 bit, but I don't know whether that will be a problem or not21:46
STalKer-Yonly a problem when he has no 32bit libs installed :p21:47
Andurinoyess runing ok21:47
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AndurinoAnyone know relatively drifting future of the game, that is where he wants to go or look to another game21:50
AndurinoI have my ideas, but I do not fit within the project21:51
AndurinoCertain things that have pleased me homeworld, ogame, starcraf and FreeOrion21:52
STalKer-Ywell, the ideas are practically set in stone :p21:52
STalKer-Yif you want, try the thousand parsec framework :p21:53
AndurinoI did not understand what I meant to say, the translation is not very understandable -> staler-y21:54
AndurinoI understand that you say are not supported ideas? I hope that if corrections are admitted21:56
GeofftheMediosome decisions have been made, and others are still being discussed, or will be discussed in future21:59
GeofftheMediodiscussions mostly happen on the forums21:59
AndurinoI am grateful for the information that you provided, I will be very useful.21:59
GeofftheMedioif you have suggestions and can explain them in english, feel free to post on the forums about them22:00
GeofftheMediothere's not much active design discussion going on at the moment, though22:00
Andurinos common to find little in the forums moviento development is nothing new.22:01
AndurinoIt is common to find little movement in the development forums, there is nothing new.22:01
AndurinoFurthermore, it is reasonable to think that before writing an idea, best to call to see what chance of success may have22:03
AndurinoFor writing an idea I mean to submit, manage, and work actively in the project.22:04
AndurinoFor nothing, that ideas and others to develop22:04
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AndurinoIf you please, can you give me your opinion about the game homeworld, if they know22:06
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GeofftheMediothere are some mentions of it on the forums, but I never played it22:07
Andurinowhat I like about this game is the mechanics or the game interface, selection, construction and research. They are simple to understand. On the contrary I do not like game environments as they are very similar and the types of game are very scarce and limited the number of players.22:10
Andurinoogame presents the possibility of countless players, however it is still very limited web game for those who like to play games.22:12
AndurinoStarcraf, I like the graphics environment, but the game is basically the same one type of game.22:13
AndurinoFreeOrion gives the possibility to do all the above are good, and minimize the issues less good.22:15
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AndurinoFreeOrion, the turn-based game system is as valid as anyone else, but I wish there were other types of games. Research and buildings are extremely long and somewhat confusing. On the other hand I see no possibility now to keep a heading indefinitely, due to the characteristics of the game maybe it would be desirable that this was so.22:18
AndurinoMaintain the character and world of warcraft style games do not see interesting, it would be desirable uncertainty ogame, if you lose you get caught.22:21
GeofftheMedioI don't really have time to chat extensively about game design right now... you might want to make a forum post about this sort of thing...22:21
AndurinoExcuse me, it was not my intention to argue, just say. Anyway, past experience is that until you see a beta, will not move anyone.22:23
AndurinoAs I said before, thanks for the information I have provided.22:25
AndurinoI will be very useful.22:25
AndurinoI leave you with your usual routine and apologize for having changed.22:25
GeofftheMediono need to apologize for asking for help...22:25
GeofftheMedioit's part of why we have an irc channel22:25
AndurinoI'm going to rest, where I am is pretty late, good night22:27
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STalKer-Yi think he needs a human translator :<22:42
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