Thursday, 2010-04-22

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CIA-76FreeOrion: tzlaine * r3518 /trunk/FreeOrion/combat/OpenSteer/PathingEngine.cpp: Grooming in combat/OpenSteer/PathingEngine.cpp.03:12
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CIA-76FreeOrion: tzlaine * r3519 /trunk/FreeOrion/ (UI/CombatWnd.cpp server/ServerApp.cpp): (log message trimmed)03:31
CIA-76FreeOrion: Another combat engine baby step.03:31
CIA-76FreeOrion: - The server takes the orders sent by players and applies them to the03:31
CIA-76FreeOrion: CombatObjects in its PathingEngine.03:31
CIA-76FreeOrion: - The client no longer only sends orders messages when at least one has been03:31
CIA-76FreeOrion: given; this means that hitting "Turn" without issuing orders actually works.03:31
CIA-76FreeOrion: - The client disables the "Turn" button between when it is pressed and the03:31
CIA-76FreeOrion: tzlaine * r3520 /trunk/FreeOrion/server/ServerApp.cpp: Changed the server-side constants used to simulate client-side update iterations to use the ones specified in PathingEngine.03:45
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GeofftheMediokroddn: had any luck getting things to compile recently?12:17
GeofftheMedioif I was to think about trying to get a release out some time soon, would you likely be able to make a linux version?12:17
kroddnoMobilI didn'try13:52
kroddnoMobilIf I get scons to compile again, it will be no problem releasing a linux version13:52
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HazamonzoAfternoon folks14:35
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HazamonzoHye folks is there much to the combat in OpenOrion?15:45
planetmakerprobably depends upon the definition of "much to the combat"15:47
planetmakerafaik that's the part which currently is actively worked upon15:47
Hazamonzoplanetmaker: I see. I was thinking of the original combat like system. Where you get a little battlefiel in which to move your ships one15:49
Hazamonzoand take pot shots at other ships15:49
HazamonzoI jusy sent some scounts to a colony ship and was informaed that i was victorious. I thought this might be the default message for such a simple fight15:49
planetmakerwell. That's what happens in the latest release version. But that's released a year ago or so15:51
Hazamonzoplanetmaker: Oh i see15:52
planetmakerI didn't yet find the time to compile recent versions, but from what one reads in the forums or commit log: that will work in a similar way as you'd expect it :-)15:52
planetmakerso if you feel like you could give compilation a shot. Maybe you even find somewhere linked a more recent version, but I don't know15:52
planetmakerI'm just a lurker here ;-)15:53
Hazamonzoplanetmaker: Thats fantastic news. I guess i will have to find the svn or so first15:53
Hazamonzoplanetmaker: Im just new here. but im a big supporter of open source programs15:53
HazamonzoAnd masters of Orion was a classic15:53
planetmakerindeed it was. And is :-)15:53
planetmakerforum.freeorion.org should have many info.15:54
Hazamonzoplanetmaker: Cheers. Im just looking through  the wiki at the moment15:55
HazamonzoIts a shame they don't do daily builds :(15:58
planetmakerIndeed :-)15:59
planetmakerI'm quite happy OpenTTD does it.16:00
planetmaker(though I need to compile myself)16:00
HazamonzoOpenTTD is also a classic16:01
HazamonzoHaven't lookedd at in years though16:01
HazamonzoAre they supporting online multiplayer?16:01
planetmakerhm... my guess is that linux builds are what are needed least16:01
planetmakerEveryone who uses that can compile16:01
planetmakerHazamonzo, sure.16:01
planetmaker15 companies, 255 clients16:01
Hazamonzowow!16:02
planetmakerActually I'm one of the maintainers of the biggest coop server there :-P16:02
Hazamonzoplanetmaker: I see. And do i still need the original files from TTD?16:02
planetmakerNope.16:02
HazamonzoAwesome16:02
* Hazamonzo checks the repo16:03
planetmakerEverything has found replacements.16:03
HazamonzoInstalling :)16:03
planetmaker:-)16:03
Hazamonzo"For its operation, OpenTTD needs the data files from the original Transport Tycoon Deluxe game." :(16:03
planetmakerNope16:04
planetmakerIt doesn't. What version did you install? 1.0.0?16:04
Hazamonzojust went with what was in the ubuntu 9.10 repo16:04
planetmakerthat might be old.16:04
Hazamonzoaye it is16:04
Hazamonzo0.7.116:05
planetmakerwell... as it's here off-topic I propose to join #openttd on oftc.net16:05
planetmaker:-O That's about 12 months old16:05
planetmakerwe have RCs for 1.0.1 already16:05
planetmakerbut the website offers downloads for ubuntu, too16:06
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kroddnoMobilGeofftheMedio: i bought both versions of Advance Wars ;-)20:53
kroddnoMobilan finished Advance Wars Dark Conflikt yesterday20:54
kroddnoMobiland I still get FO not compiled with scons on my system :-(21:00
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HazamonzokroddnoMobil: scons?21:05
kroddnoMobilyes21:06
HazamonzoWhat are / is scons?21:06
kroddnoMobilhehe21:06
kroddnoMobilnever ask such a question ^^21:07
HazamonzoOkay!21:07
HazamonzoI do have another question about the gameplay21:07
kroddnoMobilscons was the buildsystem used before cmake21:07
Hazamonzowhy might i not be able to build more ships from a planet that was able to build ships before?21:08
HazamonzoThere is no message telling me why :(21:08
kroddnoMobilhm21:10
kroddnoMobilwhich version are you using?21:10
Hazamonzolatest. let me check21:10
Hazamonzo0.3.13 rev310221:11
kroddnoMobilthats the official sf.net download?21:12
kroddnoMobilThere's a known bug in that version according that, I think its fixed in current svn releases21:12
kroddnoMobilWhat OS are you using?21:12
HazamonzokroddnoMobil: (k)ubuntu 9.1021:13
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kroddnoMobilhttp://freeorion.psitronic.de/download/nightly/21:15
tpbTitle: Index of /download/nightly (at freeorion.psitronic.de)21:15
kroddnoMobiltry the latest build there21:15
Hazamonzok21:15
HazamonzoThank you21:15
kroddnoMobilthats what I am trying currently with SCONS21:15
Hazamonzofreeorion_rev3398_i386_static.tar.gz  ?21:16
kroddnoMobilyes21:16
HazamonzoDownloading21:25
HazamonzokroddnoMobil: Am i right in thinking there is only one production queue too?21:25
HazamonzoNot one for each planet / star21:25
kroddnoMobilthere's one queue, but on each planets theres local production21:26
kroddnoMobilbut I think there's no hint in that queue that tells you where that building in the queue will be build21:26
kroddnoMobilYES21:26
kroddnoMobilgot it compiled :-)21:26
HazamonzokroddnoMobil: Nice one!!21:26
HazamonzoWhat was compiled exactly?21:27
kroddnoMobilnow in some minutes theres a new static release21:27
HazamonzoThe latest version from SVN?21:27
kroddnoMobilyes21:27
HazamonzokroddnoMobil: congrats21:27
Hazamonzo:D21:27
HazamonzoIm really lookingforward to a combat system21:27
kroddnoMobilsince the build-system was changed to cmake I was not able to compile21:27
HazamonzokroddnoMobil: So is it safe to say you're a OO / FO developer / contributor?21:28
HazamonzoOh were you just looking to compile a copy for yourself?21:28
kroddnoMobilno, i am the "releaser" of that version you downloaded some minutes ago :-)21:28
kroddnoMobilSo i am a FO contributor, I did not really develop much code21:29
HazamonzokroddnoMobil: Ahh i see21:29
Hazamonzoso the version you just compiled is about a month newer than the version im downloading21:30
Hazamonzo?21:30
kroddnoMobilyes ^^21:30
kroddnoMobiland seems to be a big step towars 0.3.1421:30
kroddnoMobilhttp://freeorion.psitronic.de/download/nightly/21:30
tpbTitle: Index of /download/nightly (at freeorion.psitronic.de)21:30
kroddnoMobilno its done :-)21:30
HazamonzokroddnoMobil: Any chance you're going to upload that compiled copy of yours? :D21:30
kroddnoMobil?21:31
kroddnoMobilits already there21:31
HazamonzokroddnoMobil: ! :D21:31
Hazamonzowow¬!21:31
kroddnoMobilI compile those versions UP, meaning I am compiling them on the rootserver21:31
kroddnoMobilWhat video card do you have?21:32
kroddnoMobilGeofftheMedio: do you know if the ATI bug has been fixed?21:33
CIA-76FreeOrion: tzlaine * r3521 /trunk/FreeOrion/UI/ (CombatWnd.cpp CombatWnd.h):21:35
CIA-76FreeOrion: Added an initial implementation of "zoom-panning", a la Supreme Commander.21:35
CIA-76FreeOrion: The motion when zooming in (and out, come to think of it) is currently21:35
CIA-76FreeOrion: discrete. A smooth transition like happens when you double-click to recenter21:35
CIA-76FreeOrion: may yet be implemented.21:35
CIA-76FreeOrion: kroddn * r3522 /trunk/FreeOrion/ (SConscript linux-static/link.sh): Made scons compile again. Updates for linux static linking21:38
kroddnoMobilHazamonzo: did you finish downloading the new versuion?21:38
HazamonzokroddnoMobil: the one you just uploaded?21:39
Hazamonzoi haven't started that one yet21:39
HazamonzoCan i?21:39
kroddnoMobili am at 97%21:39
kroddnoMobil98%21:39
kroddnoMobil99%21:39
kroddnoMobil100%21:39
Hazamonzo:D21:39
kroddnoMobilYou can, but i dont know if its working21:40
Hazamonzoin 15 minutes i'll let you know21:40
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kr0ddnoMobilThats what happens if you run my version on an ati system ^^21:43
Hazamonzooh no :(21:44
kr0ddnoMobilWhat video card do you have?21:44
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kr0ddnoMobilI don't know if its the video card causing my notebook to crash21:45
kr0ddnoMobilit could alos be the sound card21:45
kr0ddnoMobilHazamonzo?21:49
Hazamonzokr0ddnoMobil: Hey there21:49
HazamonzoWhats up?21:49
kr0ddnoMobil<kr0ddnoMobil> What video card do you have?21:49
Hazamonzohmm, i would have to check exactly bujt i know its a gforce 8800 gt21:50
kr0ddnoMobilthats nvidia :-)21:50
kr0ddnoMobilknown to work21:51
Hazamonzokr0ddnoMobil: Well im still downloading the latest version]21:51
kr0ddnoMobilYou already played, so it would have been amazing if you use an ati card21:51
Hazamonzobut the previous latest version give me a black screen after i clikc quickstart21:51
Hazamonzojust to be sure i removed the last working copy i have and the ~/.freeorion dir21:53
HazamonzoCouple of minutes and i can test the copy you just uploaded21:53
Hazamonzokr0ddnoMobil: I fear i might have a problem too21:59
HazamonzoSame as the previous problem. Blank / black screen after i try to join a quickstart game22:00
Hazamonzokr0ddnoMobil: In fact nevermind. it only happens when you launch the game straight from the install (click start after installing)22:01
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kr0ddnoMobilja?22:07
kr0ddnoMobilokay, I'll remove my ati fix and release a new version :-)22:07
Hazamonzokr0ddnoMobil: Hmm. 2 issues ive niticed22:09
Hazamonzo*noticed22:09
HazamonzoLet me take a screenshot22:09
Hazamonzokr0ddnoMobil: http://imagebin.ca/img/y9fZZc.jpg22:10
HazamonzoNo background stars22:10
kr0ddnoMobilthats disabled in config i think22:10
kr0ddnoMobilyou can activate that22:11
Hazamonzoand the undiscovered stars are also missing (unless they have been removed like a fog of war)22:11
kr0ddnoMobilundiscovered stats are not shown of course :-)22:11
kr0ddnoMobilmaybe that was introduced since 0.3.1322:11
HazamonzoAh so it is a fog of war then?22:12
HazamonzoI found this in the config: <system-fog-of-war>0</system-fog-of-war>22:12
kr0ddnoMobilSeems so22:12
Hazamonzokr0ddnoMobil: Any idea what the background stars setting in in the config22:13
Hazamonzoit doesn't jump out at me :)22:13
kr0ddnoMobili cannot look because my notebook will crash :-)22:13
kr0ddnoMobilbut there are options in the gui options dialog22:14
Hazamonzooh lol22:14
Hazamonzothats not good :(22:14
HazamonzoBad notebook!22:14
kr0ddnoMobil--UI.galaxy-gas-background22:15
kr0ddnoMobil--UI.galaxy-starfields22:15
kr0ddnoMobilthat seem to be the parameters restoring the old settings22:16
* Hazamonzo checks22:19
Hazamonzoperfect22:20
HazamonzoSo is there a list of changes?22:20
kr0ddnoMobiland the latest version crashed?22:20
kr0ddnoMobilYou could have a look at the svn changelog :-)22:20
Hazamonzokr0ddnoMobil: Right22:21
Hazamonzokr0ddnoMobil: The latest version i got (yours) works fine so far22:21
Hazamonzofreeorion_rev3520_i386_static.tar.gz22-Apr-2010 23:30 159M22:22
kr0ddnoMobilwhich one?22:22
kr0ddnoMobilah, so my patch is only crashing ati notebooks :)22:22
Hazamonzokr0ddnoMobil: It looks that way22:22
HazamonzoLet me see if i can find someone else with ATI to test it22:22
kr0ddnoMobili am trying too22:22
kr0ddnoMobilbut let those persons download freeorion_rev3520_i386_static.tar.gz22:23
kr0ddnoMobilthe 3522 does not have that patch applied22:23
Hazamonzohmm22:49
Hazamonzowell its looks to be running okay22:49
HazamonzoDon't know how the battle system works though22:51
Hazamonzojust pops up a box saying "a battle has occured"22:52
Hazamonzodon't seem to be able to do anyhting else22:52
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HazamonzoCrashed eventually23:38
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HazamonzoAs soon as i tried to build a custom ship23:44

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